Why ROOT? - HTC Sensation

Sensation is the best android phone I've had so far, I don't see how rooting it will benefit. It's already fast, apps2sd, pre installed screen shot, reboot, skins and themes +...
Only thing missing is bloat, CPU, overclocking, and ad remover, I can do with out.
Anyone care to differ? Lol
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xallyx said:
Sensation is the best android phone I've had so far, I don't see how rooting it will benefit. It's already fast, apps2sd, pre installed screen shot, reboot, skins and themes +...
Only thing missing is bloat, CPU, overclocking, and ad remover, I can do with out.
Anyone care to differ? Lol
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Those are the reasons I rooted, and to try different Roms and get the Beats Audio onto my normal sensation

The main reason I wanted root was to use titanium backup to restore apps/data from my hd2. Overclocking on this phone wasn't necessary for me and I don't care about the bloat as long as they don't insist on running.
Adfree is a bonus, so is hacking letsgolf to give you a million dollars
Rooting is very useful as many apps require it. I would've been satisfied with temp root, but my phone came with the update already applied and I couldn't use it.

xallyx said:
Sensation is the best android phone I've had so far, I don't see how rooting it will benefit. It's already fast, apps2sd, pre installed screen shot, reboot, skins and themes +...
Only thing missing is bloat, CPU, overclocking, and ad remover, I can do with out.
Anyone care to differ? Lol
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Another reason I rooted is to use apps like:
Led me know - extends led time
Auto starts - controls which apps start up, etc
Market enabler - download apps from other countries
Tons more apps work better with root by unlocking more features and giving more control and customization.
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If you're happy with Stock, there probably isn't a compelling reason for you to root. Why go through all the time and hassle, right?
For me, it was a quest to improve battery life. Stock ROM for me was awful. I couldn't seem to get through a 8-10 work day with light-to-moderate use without having to recharge. I know for some this is acceptable, but I had a hard time reconciling my times with what some others where reporting (20+ hrs with same usage).
When I had my iPhone, the only compelling reason I jailbroke it was to get wifi hotspot functionality.
Maybe you just haven't found that one "thing" you can't live without, yet.

I have a rooted functional G1 still, and a mytouch slide, I just wanted to see what people thought now about rooting, and the sensation, especially since newer phones have a lot more options.
I did forget to mention hotspot lol, as far as the battery, I have 3 and always carry one around with me
I just found out about the screen shot that's pre installed few days ago. I've tried all the apps and purchased one that works w.o root lol, Roms, mods, themes ect... Can be a bit to much. I'm a home screen freak I change every thing from widgets to icons daily lol. One of the best features imo.
Only thing lacking is the ability to remove stock apps. I'm not sure if I want to go through all the trouble of rooting just for that lol
I also use dropbox and 4shared to save apps and use at another time, with out using phone memory, uploading from the phone is pretty sweet lol
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Rick.M said:
Maybe you just haven't found that one "thing" you can't live without, yet.
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that is a very good answer to the OP

I'm in the same situation where my 1 week old sensation is on stock. It's seems to tick all boxes at the moment so I don't really feel the need to take the risk and root. Apart from custom roms I haven't really seen the need, but I'm sure that will all change soon once I get more familiar with the phone. I remember with my hd2 the first day I got it I changed Rom as the development is still great there
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Why not root? That's the real question.

ErrorInLogic said:
Why not root? That's the real question.
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Cuz it's a pain. There isn't an easy way to do it like there was for WM 6.5 or iOS for that matter.
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Cuz it's a pain. There isn't an easy way to do it like there was for WM 6.5 or iOS for that matter.
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It depends what type of phone you have, some require a pc, adb knowledge, and some other stuff, others have easy root apps that seem to work best before the update lol.
I think Droids are probably the easiest to root, or any phone with 2.2 lol
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Cuz it's a pain. There isn't an easy way to do it like there was for WM 6.5 or iOS for that matter.
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No simple? I rooted this phone within 20 minutes after getting it yesterday! I followed the instructions for revolutionary and now I'm on AR 4.1.x and my phone is underlocked @800Mhz. The battery is awesome plus the speed is astounding.

It depends on how you look at it;
Why Root?
- You get total control over system files, permissions and applications. You can do pretty much anything. You can flash custom ROM's, overclock the phone, get rid of bloatware and so on... Basically rooting brings you total freedom.
Why not to root?
- You will not receive official HTC software updates after you've rooted. The only way to install these is to download them from here, and do it manually. You risk bricking the phone every time you manually install something (altho, if you know what you're doing the risks are quite small). If you install a custom ROM you will most likely have many bugs, and some functions do not work. If you overclock you will shorten the life-span of your phone & the phone battery, which is the biggest problem.
You'll need to consider all of these things before you do anything. I've decided to stick with the stock ROM because Sensation is so expensive and I really don't want to shorten it's life-span.

I want to Root cuz i want to be Administrator of my 500$ gadget that i paid for.. I don't want HTC to dictate me what not to remove or what not to change...

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jjdoctor said:
I want to Root cuz i want to be Administrator of my 500$ gadget that i paid for.. I don't want HTC to dictate me what not to remove or what not to change...
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Ace42 said:
No simple? I rooted this phone within 20 minutes after getting it yesterday!
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OK. It worked for you...... But it doesn't work that well for everyone. I used to switch ROMS multiple times a day at times on WM and I 1-click jailbroke multiple iOS devices. I had an HD2 running multiple awesome ROMS and dual booting Android (which was awesome), but rooting this phone proved many times more difficult than any of that. So much so that I finally said, "Why bother? It's awesome as is anyway!"
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Ace42 said:
No simple? I rooted this phone within 20 minutes after getting it yesterday! I followed the instructions for revolutionary and now I'm on AR 4.1.x and my phone is underlocked @800Mhz. The battery is awesome plus the speed is astounding.
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woah, 20 minutes? Thanks to the devs here, they make it SO much easier. My htc magic was a pain to root and follow cause of the bajillion diff radios/SPL's!
I took probably like 5 and another 5 or so figuring out how to sim-unlock it!
Another reason to root is to save yourself a couple bones by rooting it and unlocking the phone!

KAwAtA said:
woah, 20 minutes? Thanks to the devs here, they make it SO much easier. My htc magic was a pain to root and follow cause of the bajillion diff radios/SPL's!
I took probably like 5 and another 5 or so figuring out how to sim-unlock it!
Another reason to root is to save yourself a couple bones by rooting it and unlocking the phone!
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He said he rooted within 20 mins of getting the phone in hand......

jjdoctor said:
He said he rooted within 20 mins of getting the phone in hand......
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Thats including having to turn it on, signing in, standing in amazement of the beautiful phone in his hands for 15 mins... lol
In all seriousness the main reason for rooting for me was to get CM7, Sense is beautiful but I love CM7 so much. Another was the kernels xD They improve the device soooooooo much even if you are on stock they make the Sensation even better [yes its possible (;]
In the end its all up to what you want, if you dont find a reason then you can just leave it stock

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Stock MT4G

After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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knotrkr said:
After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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Have you tried a Sense cleaned up (bloatware) ROM? In any case, you might want to use Titanium to at least freeze some of the bloatware apps. You should still be able to get the OTA 2.3 update if/when HTC/TMo finally gets around to it.
I am not sure if being rooted will prevent that.
root on stock ROM shouldnt prevent it. although you will probably lose root. good idea to wait to update and see what the devs say about any new update. losing root to a new update isnt cool because you never know how long it will take for some one to figure out how to root again.
I am with you. I have not tried nor want to try any roms. I really like the default rom as is. I came from the HD2 where I flashed so many different roms, I ended up staying with a version of the mytouch 4g. Then I went and bought a real mytouch 4g and love it. I also rooted to get rid of the crappy apps. No problem with keeping it as is. People will always try and talk you into flashing a custom, but to be honest this is the first time I never have had any bugs or issues that I had to live with until the "next update".
same here...no matter how many different ROMS I flash, I always end up going back to the stock MySense. I did have a great experience with Orange Sense tho, pure sense and blazing fast thanks to Faux
Totally with you guys, after flashing several roms, trying to get them to work properly, then ending up too frustrated to continue, went right back to stock rom. rooted and removed bloatware. now happy as can be.
Same deal here. I came from the HD2 running android as well with the MT4G build, then I just bought the real deal. Mainly for the wifi calling and the front camera for the video calling. I gave the HD2 to my daughter and for some reason just last week the touch screen stopped working,, for windows and android. So there sending me a replacement, it should be here sometime this week. Does any of you know if I can use HP3 to flash roms and android builds? cuz I did use HD2 and Now I can't find it but I did find HD3. I waS Just wondering if they did the same thing. but I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who digs the stock sense. I thought I was the only one.. LOL.. although now that CM7 is officially out I may give it a look... but I'm sure as always i'll end up back with stock.. and hopefully we'll get the honeycomb upgrade or the 2.3 sooner or later..
I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
I ran stock for a month and used ADW Launcher EX (normal version does this also) in order to hide the bloatware from the app drawer. This phone has so much power that for me it was out of sight out of mind with bloatware. I would assume LPP and other home replacement apps would have similar functions.
I flashed around a bit after rooting but always came back to stock, but then I switched to Orange Glacier by Faux123. It's stock, just quicker and debloated with some system apps moved in case you want to remove them also. IMO it's a bit better, but I still haven't decided how life changing it is His kernels def are.
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sunsean said:
I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
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I waited around 10 days before I rooted my phone just to get a nice feel of how things ran. yes I would definitely root if I were you. if you dont want to uninstall the bloatware, you can just freeze them with titanium. setcpu with a custom kernel underclocking with screen off will improve battery life as well(only OC to play games or view videos)
hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
trance112 said:
hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
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Download ice or royal glacier.
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not obsessed with getting S-off

I know that is the minority opinion but I'm really happy with the device the way it is , sense 3.0,has its quirks but as long as they upgrade the software and make the device rock solid I really don't care if we get it or not ....now don't get me wrong if we do ill be a flashing fool ,but I'm really enjoying the device for what it is
Yes. Same here. I would definitely be a lot happier once it is s-off. But I am really happy I have this phone.
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You're not alone. I'm very satisfied with this phone the way it is. If I could just uninstall a lot of useless apps without the need of rooting, then I wouldn't even bother with rooting it.
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I know that is the minority opinion but I'm really happy with the device the way it is , sense 3.0,has its quirks but as long as they upgrade the software and make the device rock solid I really don't care if we get it or not ....now don't get me wrong if we do ill be a flashing fool ,but I'm really enjoying the device for what it is
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Agreed... For me there is really no need. However I never mind a nice overclock
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I'm also 100% satisfied with my device. I am also a crackflasher though LOL! Also I want all this bloatware off the phone and some custom kernel so we can get alot better battery life. Plus, I think a AOSP rom would make this phone blazingggggggg fast. I just like the oprtion to switch. With that being said I'm still obsessed with getting S off
I agree
I would like the next HTC update (slight speed up), but the default rom is pretty bug free and excellent for me!
Ahh. I hate sense and really miss my nexus ine vanilla. Its just so much smoother andbit was a slower phone with less ram. I love the sensation but it can get so much better that I can't wait for s off
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Agreed. Happy here.
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The only reason I want s-off is so I can debrand, other than that Im more than happy with the phone and stock firmware
true, but..
WE NEED ROOT !
My amazing device is lacking a basic ability like taking a screenshot .
it's totaly crazy !
And don't get me started on RTL fixes for my HEBREW language..
I agreed I like sense 3.0... All I need is adfree, sdcard increase, shootme. all bloatware like the Nova Demo gone and my phone would be complete.
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I agree as well. The device isn't bad the way it is. I think most people just want the ability to remove bloat apps we'll never use. Apparently Sprint is doing that with their new devices. I wish that was the case with all Android devices.
I could use me some AdFree though... I can't stand all the ads.
For once...
I'm not missing having root. Sure the device could be a tad bit more responsive when doing things but i'm certain that those little things will be fixed with a software update. Right now my thunderbolt seems to launch things just as fast, if not just a hair faster but i'm thinking it has to do with Sense 3.0 and not underpowered hardware. I've used quite a bit of android devices and this one is the first to not get bogged down from doing too many things at once. I can easily hop from a game to gmail, to a phone call, to the market, and back to game without the device skipping a beat and going right back into the paused game. It's very impressive. Sure it gets hot, and it has dust in the screen, but so far it's proven to be one powerhouse of a phone and i'm glad I purchased it.
i'm cool as long as they send some updates out.
I want root so I can have my Titanium Backup restored! I have over 175 applications that I will have to manually install!
S-on is the only reason that's keeping me from buying this phone.
I must have a root fix...it's an addiction!
Well one thing this phone has done is shut my wife up ,she hated my hd2 because I flashed a new Rom or updated like every other day .....she's praying we don't get s-off ,either way I'm glad I have the phone
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Well one thing this phone has done is shut my wife up ,she hated my hd2 because I flashed a new Rom or updated like every other day .....she's praying we don't get s-off ,either way I'm glad I have the phone
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LOL...been there done that.

Disappointed with my friends Sensation

Hello guys.
As the topic states, I'm trying to help my friend get the best user experience with the Sensation.
I myself, use a Galaxy S II, and have been using this + Galaxy S I for like 10 months now.
But this guy came to me to show off his brand new Sensation - I tried it - and I thought it TOTALLY sucked!? The UI is really slow and sluggish, not much different from a HTC Hero lol (ok well not that bad, but compared to my CM7nized Galaxy, it looks like a failed toy)
I was really disappointed for him, and I promised I'd find him the best ROM/kernel combination out there.
I thought it was a simply matter of bloatware and bad optimization at HTC's part. So I flashed LeeDroid onto his device, it got a bit better, but animations aren't as fluent as I'd like them. I can even discern the frames per second by eye.. (almost)
Is overclocking the only answer? I saw some kernels which support 1.89GHz, but since I have no knowledge of HTC, I wouldn't dare try.
Questions:
*What's the fastest ROM out there?
*What's making the Sensation so slow compared to Galaxy S II and iPhone 4? You'd think a dual core would run any version of Android easily.
*Do I have to overclock to make the Sensation lag-free?
*Why are there no AOSP roms yet? Is there something preventing this?
*Is his device maybe faulty?
I appreciate your answers.
And please, I didn't come here to troll or flame. Just trying to help my friend, so lets keep it civilized and no Android Phone-rivalry hate
dyallo said:
Hello guys.
As the topic states, I'm trying to help my friend get the best user experience with the Sensation.
I myself, use a Galaxy S II, and have been using this + Galaxy S I for like 10 months now.
But this guy came to me to show off his brand new Sensation - I tried it - and I thought it TOTALLY sucked!? The UI is really slow and sluggish, not much different from a HTC Hero lol (ok well not that bad, but compared to my CM7nized Galaxy, it looks like a failed toy)
I was really disappointed for him, and I promised I'd find him the best ROM/kernel combination out there.
I thought it was a simply matter of bloatware and bad optimization at HTC's part. So I flashed LeeDroid onto his device, it got a bit better, but animations aren't as fluent as I'd like them. I can even discern the frames per second by eye.. (almost)
Is overclocking the only answer? I saw some kernels which support 1.89GHz, but since I have no knowledge of HTC, I wouldn't dare try.
Questions:
*What's the fastest ROM out there?
*What's making the Sensation so slow compared to Galaxy S II and iPhone 4? You'd think a dual core would run any version of Android easily.
*Do I have to overclock to make the Sensation lag-free?
*Why are there no AOSP roms yet? Is there something preventing this?
*Is his device maybe faulty?
I appreciate your answers.
And please, I didn't come here to troll or flame. Just trying to help my friend, so lets keep it civilized and no Android Phone-rivalry hate
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Keep well in mind that YOUR phone has been out MUCH MUCH longer than our Sensations. Also, we JUST got S-OFF recently which leaves very little time to have been developing.
Also, from what I understand, android is not utilizing the sensations dual cores properly, yet. That, along with Sense 3.0, and the lack of hardware acceleration all come together for a less than wow effect. However, with ADW EX (paid) my phone is faster than I can discern. That, and the fact that I froze Sense along with a lot of other stuff with Titanium after I rooted.
Give it time, you will see the Sensation really begin to fly. CM7 is due any day now for us as well...After thats all taken care of, have a look at the sharp look of the Sensation! Its got the looks on the outside right now, and soon someone will give it the looks it can have on the inside. HTC rushed this phone and designed it to appeal to the masses.
Id bet that the phone with ADW EX and Sense 3.0 frozen would look as fast as yours. It may not hang in there, yet, with the benchmarks but your daily use would likely seem to be just as fast. Oh and that is with my stock ROM and no overclock.
Matt
I purchased an SGII and was really impressed with the camera.....
and that was all.....
Sold it on ebay 2 days after purchase!
Cheap plastic.....
And if it's that good, why put CM7 on it? It shouldn't need improving should it?
using stock kernel + rom i have 0 lag and phone is amazing...
just used adb method to pause all applications not being used/bloatware
but you could also just delete unused apks with root explorer or whatever you may have since ur already s-off with root
(suggest backing up if you have any problems u can restore apk :| )
kurtish said:
I purchased an SGII and was really impressed with the camera.....
and that was all.....
Sold it on ebay 2 days after purchase!
Cheap plastic.....
And if it's that good, why put CM7 on it? It shouldn't need improving should it?
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'Cause it's been a while since I ran Cyanogenmod, and I wanted to try the latest nightly.
Normally, I use VillainROM which is based on Samsungs sources, but with bloatware removed and deodex/zipaligned apks which is almost just as fast.
Thanks though, I'll forward your tips on freezing all Sense apks and run ADW Launcher EX instead (incidently, this is the launcher I use on my own phone and yes, i love it too.)
But no ROM or Kernel recommendations? Aww, I went through all this S-Off crap for nothing?
Give a dog a bone
Try any 2.3.4 ROM (I'm using InsertCoin). The phone will be much faster
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idavid_ said:
Try any 2.3.4 ROM (I'm using InsertCoin). The phone will be much faster
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Thanks, alot of people seem to be recommending InsertCoin
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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How do u freeze HTC Sense
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I believe with Titanium Backup or something similar.
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Titanium Backup Pro. I'm not sure what all exactly you need to freeze, but I'm sure anything with "Sense" in it you'd want to freeze.
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Delete rosie.apk or freeze it. I delete mine. I use adw ex anyway and its faster than sense
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dyallo said:
Thanks, alot of people seem to be recommending InsertCoin
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I use LeeDroid. Constant updates and tweaks.
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Try Android Revolution HD 2.1.0, I just flashed this last night. Really impressed. Loads faster and still using the stock kernel for 2.3.4
Custom kernel's are on there way for this rom too which should make it fly.
Btw, does your friend have/had the newest 2.3.4 OTA? It improves speed as well
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2.3.4 version of the custom rom i am using has definitely made a big speed improvement over 2.3.3
He is on LeeDroid rom now, I believe its 2.3.4 based! Right??
yeah it is based on 2.3.4
lol, yet another Galaxy troller
PLEASEEEE use the P3D Neon V4 ROM and use the kernel it comes with. Honestly, it's the best ROM I have used on the Sensation. Flash that, look at the UI and it'll make you wish you could have Sense 3.0 on your GalaxyS2. Make sure you also flash the 4.1 update on top!
It's smooth, has good battery life, and has a sexy theme with a lot of eye-candy that doesn't slow the phone down. If you don't believe me, please flash it and report back with what your friend says. Don't report back with what you thought of it, just what he thought because I don't wanna read a biased post lol.
Also, when we finally get CM7, the speed will be on-par with any other dualcore device.
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What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
gustav30 said:
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

HTC undervaluing customers. React?

I am an unfortunate owner of an HTC sensation. This phone has many frustrating issues but there is one that i find unacceptable. According to HTC all Sensations when playing specific videos and having the brightness set to maximum will have it significantly changed. To my observation that is almost 50%. Users report similar behaviour in the galery and youtube applications.
In my country a device is considered faulty when (1) its not suitable to be used as intended, (2) not suitable to be used as similar products in the market or (3) it does not have the performance the customer expects.
(1) My phone is intended to be used as a multimedia phone hence the big screen and resolution. When the exterior light is more than enough it is made very dificult to me to watch videos because the device arbitrarily lowers the brightness. (2) No other products have similar behaviour in the market to my knowledge and of course (3) i do not expect my phone to reduce the brightness when i set it to be stable to a specific brightness.
HTC says theres nothing they can do. They also told be this issue is caused because of the light sensor. I dont understand why the ligh sensor has anything to do with it since it is only supposed to work when the brighness is set to automatic.
My question is, Really HTC? You think you can sell me an expensive device and have that poor a performance? And your answer is since every device has this issue it is not a problem? I dont know if theres anything we can do so i would like your opinions too.
solution -> quickpic as gallery and mx video player as default video player
is that really hard?
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solution -> quickpic as gallery and mx video player as default video player
is that really hard?
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I was expecting that answer. It doesnt work. And im not willing to root my phone either.
I know your not willing to root your device but I must give you my HONEST opinion. Rooting has made my device 150% better! The choices of Roms are spectacular, they have a rom to fit most everyone's taste. The Roms give the NEWEST softwares , example I'm ruining sence 4 with Android 4.0.3, the mods are Amazing, changing so many little things to make your device look unique! I have to say the ROMS run much better than the stock os. No random rebooting, smooth, fast ! You can change your kernels too for a over all better experience! Rooting has brought my device to life! So do I have any complaints, nope, I'm loveing my S off rooted device with custom Rom! If I don't like something, I just change it. That's the beauty of a rooted device. Your not stuck with something you don't like. I'm sorry your experience is poor with the sensation. I must say I have just the opposite. My experience is a rich wonderful experience and we have the same device, except I'm rooted. So if you want to change your experience then root, if not, well, it's up to you....good luck in what ever you choose.
But I think if you rooted you would have a better experience all together. But if that's not a option maybe find a different device to better suit your needs. That's the only other alternative I can think of. Everyone is different and we all have different opinions. I wish you the best of luck in what ever you decide. This is just my opinion and my experience. We are all different. Perhaps the sensation just isn't for you!
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I doubt there is anything we can do, as the last person suggested....root the phone and change what you want.....I root all of mine and am extremely happy because I make it my phone not just your average Sensation....if not just see if you can get a different phone if you just bought this one and its faulty do what they call a warranty exchange that's how I ended up with a sensation
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I just wanted to mention, if you get any ICS based ROM's, you can disable auto brightness and set to full brightness manually (you only ever need this is outside in direct sunlight). My device is always on the lowest brightness or half.
Example of quick and easy changing from notification pull down.
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The dissapointing thing about the sensation is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
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Once you go root you never go back
The first time you ever root your device and experience for yourself all the things you can do you can see that you have a completly different device.
Also with any device no matter what company, it is always limited. so whichever phone you have you will end up rooting
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Brightness
It's weird there are only very few who mentioned brightness problem when playing youtube or gallery. I had the same issue after upgrading to Android Revolution HD custom ROM (ICS). With Android 2.3.4 stock I did not experienced this. I also do not like REPETITIVE sound notification for the SAME EMAIL each time it does sync.. After another shot - installing Android Revolution HD - it seems the brightness problem is gone.
HTC is going to release single core phones:
HTC Desire VT
HTC Desire VC
HTC Desire V
HTC Desire C
and it comes with ICS and Sense 4. Now this is truly HTC undervaluing earlier devices. Time to hit them harder...
webstar1 said:
The dissapointing thing about the sensation is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
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The dissapointing thing about ANY smartphone is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
Anyway, I love to root my devices and install on them what I really want, and not just using what manufacturers think it's better for me.
To be honest any and every smartphone has to be tweaked by consumer to get the experience best suited by the customer.
iPhone has to have a jailbreak to get satisfaction for alot of people, and I don't know about windows phone and what they do with that os.
In my opinion if you choose not to fix your own problem then how can you blame the company who made the phone?
when you have options in front of you and dont like your options why not buy a different phone because o know many of us with a rooted sensation have a great experience my phone is fast I have noo problems watching video I use the app mobo player and it works great everywhere.
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I completely agree with above statement! It's really up to you! You have the opportunity to make a change and customize to your liking however you choose not to do this. The Sensation has a wonderful ability to be totally customized to the consumers liking all the way from firmware to operating system, down to kernels and mods! You can ťweak the device however you like! In my opinion, that's a great device. If you have the know how or can read a guide the possiabilitys are endless! So actually your not looking at the ability of the device. Your looking at the surface. Dig deeper and you will develop a new respect for this device, or at least you should because it's capability is great ! Also once it's customized to your liking you will find there's nothing out there like it, It's truly yours. I'm completely happy with my customized device. If you don't take the time to customize and your unhappy, whos fault is that? It's your own. The tools are available to you to change your experience. It's really all up to YOU!
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nangu said:
The dissapointing thing about ANY smartphone is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
Anyway, I love to root my devices and install on them what I really want, and not just using what manufacturers think it's better for me.
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Except for th iPhone. It works just like they say it works...
I don't blame HTC, I blame tmobile for making me sign a two year and not offering the iPhone.
Just wait for the iPhone 5 to release...See ya Htc and tmobile!
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I completely agree with above statement! It's really up to you! You have the opportunity to make a change and customize to your liking however you choose not to do this. The Sensation has a wonderful ability to be totally customized to the consumers liking all the way from firmware to operating system, down to kernels and mods! You can ťweak the device however you like! In my opinion, that's a great device. If you have the know how or can read a guide the possiabilitys are endless! So actually your not looking at the ability of the device. Your looking at the surface. Dig deeper and you will develop a new respect for this device, or at least you should because it's capability is great ! Also once it's customized to your liking you will find there's nothing out there like it, It's truly yours. I'm completely happy with my customized device. If you don't take the time to customize and your unhappy, whos fault is that? It's your own. The tools are available to you to change your experience. It's really all up to YOU!
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I dont disagree with what you said. But rooting is unofficial and voids warranty. Plus most people dont have the knowledge on how to root or want to take the risk to root. What about those people who are stuck with ICS? You cant really blame them.
Its a constant war out there to make our phones better every day. With Custom ROM's bringing the best of all worlds onto our phones. It'll probably take HTC/Samsung/etc ages to do things what the devs are doing. Thanks to them.
We pay for the hardware and its up to u to put whatever software - kernel/rom/mods u want on that hardware. This is the main reason u go for Android
Read through the posts properly, and then the probability of failed/bricked devices is less and u can be really happy with ur device's performance/usablilty/looks etc
If u have any doubts people in this forum are ready to help(once u have searched in the forum and have not found anything or u are confused about something)
Geos1 said:
I dont disagree with what you said. But rooting is unofficial and voids warranty. Plus most people dont have the knowledge on how to root or want to take the risk to root. What about those people who are stuck with ICS? You cant really blame them.
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You can unroot your phone there is still a chance that they will see that have unlocked boot before but they might not
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mrg02d said:
Except for th iPhone. It works just like they say it works...
I don't blame HTC, I blame tmobile for making me sign a two year and not offering the iPhone.
Just wait for the iPhone 5 to release...See ya Htc and tmobile!
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If iPhone is so incredible to fullfill anyone expectations out of the box, then why people jailbreak it?
Sensation was a great phone out of the box to me, but if I can make it better by rooting, why not?
I think you not only miss your device selection, you missed your operator too
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I dont disagree with what you said. But rooting is unofficial and voids warranty. Plus most people dont have the knowledge on how to root or want to take the risk to root. What about those people who are stuck with ICS? You cant really blame them.
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Yes rooting is unofficial however in my opnion the custom roms, although unofficial are FAR MORE STABLE than the official stock roms! They are built with the user experience in mind much more so than the stock Rom.as for rooting, yes I believe it must be something that's interesting to the person and they have to desire to do it. If the desire is not there than it probably should not be attempted.
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To be honest cm9 is coming so ill go to that
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