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HTC sense on mes....

I came from the desire because of the internal storage capacity and battery life but the default rom is the ugliest thing I have seen in my life and for a first time droid owner they might think it is the best thing . the standard rom Isn't 2.2 but even the interface is bad so my question is has anybody flashed a HTC sense hased rom or alike to the mez yet and if so what guide did you use
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There is no HTC sense rom for the fascinate or mes

Just use launcherpro or adw. I doubt it is even possible to have an actual sense rom because sense is so ingrained in the core android... it probably wouldn't work.
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But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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When I say same everythings I mean same storage and memory mappings even though the mes has 1.5gig rom and less ram than the desire
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Touchwiz is horrible, use Launcher Pro

Like i was saying out of the many Droid phones I have had most recently the desire HTC sense has been the best as I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram. status Droid reports 2/3rds the resources the last phone had. So I do believe when I get the time I will venture into cooking Droid roms for myself. On a positive note of the mes the screen is awesome keyboard size is better but all of that can be edited in the image mappings of anything
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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Who's "they?" Considering you said you came from a HTC Desire, are you saying the Desire and Mesmerize have the "same everything?" In which case, you'd be no where close to correct.
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diabolical28 said:
I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram
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Well your Highness, given your highly superior intellect and standards for which these phones must live up to, you'd think you'd be smart enough to check out the specs before you bought one.

Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces. And as for your total useless post to bump,flame or raise your post count. You did nothing to add to the conversation. Lastly not Highness here but the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret that the mez has very little memory to run all the neato Samsung features
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.

diabolical28 said:
Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces.
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You are simply just wrong.
diabolical28 said:
the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret
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Says who? I came from the Hero which comes stock with Sense and the majority of the ROMs in the Hero community and the most popular ones were not Sense based. Sense is okay, nothing wrong with it, but it is far from anything spectacular.

AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.

The only time I've seen sense on a phone that it didn't come with was when I installed android on the HTC touch and there was a hero rom installed and of course you can imagine it was quite sluggish but I haven't seen any other phones, at least not android native phones that were non HTC phones with a sense rom

v_lestat said:
no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.
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Well said v! And I agree that touchwiz isn't great but root the phone and use launcher pro as sage said. There are other launchers out there. I personally use adw launcher. Try those out see what you think they are highly customizable play around and I bet you get a setup you enjoy. Or if you have add like me just change it every other day

Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.

Cythrawl said:
AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.
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Never even bothered to look up until now. Considering I had a awesome interface etc. But the search begins.

ganzhimself said:
Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.
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Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..

The new FroYo ROM seems to really help with battery life on the Desire. But yeah... The internal memory is what kept me away from it. I won't be buying another Samsung phone, that much is certain.

diabolical28 said:
Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..
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A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.

add144 said:
A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.
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Depends on the radio/phone combo that you are trying to use. I've flashed four different radios to my Mesmerize and have not had a problem. I don't recommend it, but it can be done if you know what you are doing.

not obsessed with getting S-off

I know that is the minority opinion but I'm really happy with the device the way it is , sense 3.0,has its quirks but as long as they upgrade the software and make the device rock solid I really don't care if we get it or not ....now don't get me wrong if we do ill be a flashing fool ,but I'm really enjoying the device for what it is

Yes. Same here. I would definitely be a lot happier once it is s-off. But I am really happy I have this phone.
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You're not alone. I'm very satisfied with this phone the way it is. If I could just uninstall a lot of useless apps without the need of rooting, then I wouldn't even bother with rooting it.

tigerz0202 said:
I know that is the minority opinion but I'm really happy with the device the way it is , sense 3.0,has its quirks but as long as they upgrade the software and make the device rock solid I really don't care if we get it or not ....now don't get me wrong if we do ill be a flashing fool ,but I'm really enjoying the device for what it is
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Agreed... For me there is really no need. However I never mind a nice overclock
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I'm also 100% satisfied with my device. I am also a crackflasher though LOL! Also I want all this bloatware off the phone and some custom kernel so we can get alot better battery life. Plus, I think a AOSP rom would make this phone blazingggggggg fast. I just like the oprtion to switch. With that being said I'm still obsessed with getting S off

I agree
I would like the next HTC update (slight speed up), but the default rom is pretty bug free and excellent for me!

Ahh. I hate sense and really miss my nexus ine vanilla. Its just so much smoother andbit was a slower phone with less ram. I love the sensation but it can get so much better that I can't wait for s off
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Agreed. Happy here.
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The only reason I want s-off is so I can debrand, other than that Im more than happy with the phone and stock firmware

true, but..
WE NEED ROOT !
My amazing device is lacking a basic ability like taking a screenshot .
it's totaly crazy !
And don't get me started on RTL fixes for my HEBREW language..

I agreed I like sense 3.0... All I need is adfree, sdcard increase, shootme. all bloatware like the Nova Demo gone and my phone would be complete.
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I agree as well. The device isn't bad the way it is. I think most people just want the ability to remove bloat apps we'll never use. Apparently Sprint is doing that with their new devices. I wish that was the case with all Android devices.
I could use me some AdFree though... I can't stand all the ads.

For once...
I'm not missing having root. Sure the device could be a tad bit more responsive when doing things but i'm certain that those little things will be fixed with a software update. Right now my thunderbolt seems to launch things just as fast, if not just a hair faster but i'm thinking it has to do with Sense 3.0 and not underpowered hardware. I've used quite a bit of android devices and this one is the first to not get bogged down from doing too many things at once. I can easily hop from a game to gmail, to a phone call, to the market, and back to game without the device skipping a beat and going right back into the paused game. It's very impressive. Sure it gets hot, and it has dust in the screen, but so far it's proven to be one powerhouse of a phone and i'm glad I purchased it.

i'm cool as long as they send some updates out.

I want root so I can have my Titanium Backup restored! I have over 175 applications that I will have to manually install!

S-on is the only reason that's keeping me from buying this phone.

I must have a root fix...it's an addiction!

Well one thing this phone has done is shut my wife up ,she hated my hd2 because I flashed a new Rom or updated like every other day .....she's praying we don't get s-off ,either way I'm glad I have the phone

tigerz0202 said:
Well one thing this phone has done is shut my wife up ,she hated my hd2 because I flashed a new Rom or updated like every other day .....she's praying we don't get s-off ,either way I'm glad I have the phone
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LOL...been there done that.

[Q] Sensation XE LAG prob

Hi, I have got brand new XE. It is a way cool phone. But the problem is that it is pretty laggy. Then I am scrolling menu, internet pages it is lagging. It is thinking (loading stuff) too long. One time it has even rebooted. I can't understand because everything is stock in it. No custom rom, kernel.
So I want to ask you guys if this ways is the one it suppose to work?
I was using Galaxy S2 before and it was perfect phone for me until it was stolen. It worked perfect, there was no lag. And now in this laggy Xe i can't feel no convenience.

madbeardo said:
Hi, I have got brand new XE. It is a way cool phone. But the problem is that it is pretty laggy. Then I am scrolling menu, internet pages it is lagging. It is thinking (loading stuff) too long. One time it has even rebooted. I can't understand because everything is stock in it. No custom rom, kernel.
So I want to ask you guys if this ways is the one it suppose to work?
I was using Galaxy S2 before and it was perfect phone for me until it was stolen. It worked perfect, there was no lag. And now in this laggy Xe i can't feel no convenience.
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This is xda. We flash our phones as quick as we can. Try to root your phone and flash some other roms.
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Thanks for fast response. I know what the main idea of XDA is. But the actual question is still the same. Is HTC putting laggy phones to the market or is it mine phone faulty?
I would like to avoid flashing at this case. I want to keep guarantee. I am aware of loosing it..

Try a factory reset.

madbeardo said:
Thanks for fast response. I know what the main idea of XDA is. But the actual question is still the same. Is HTC putting laggy phones to the market or is it mine phone faulty?
I would like to avoid flashing at this case. I want to keep guarantee. I am aware of loosing it..
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1)Phone isn't faulty
2)SGSII has GPU rendering or HW accel.
3)HTC hasn't optimized Sense yet to have HW accel
Sense has always been laggy on stock, this holds true since Sense made its debut on the hero; such a shame that 2 years later the issue is still present in 3.0 . IF you root the phone can be returned to stock too, I'm sure you will prefer the perf boost from root...I use IC(insert coin) and it's extremely fast at 702 w/ smartassV2, and there's a MOD for a super fast rosie to make the homescreen faster. However it's your choice to keep the XE on stock or return it for SGSII.

I just bought this xe 2 days ago..so far, did not notice any lag..yet..
Try factory reset..maybe it will fix it..
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naimmkassim said:
I just bought this xe 2 days ago..so far, did not notice any lag..yet..
Try factory reset..maybe it will fix it..
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You are lucky then. Because mine is very laggy!!! Ok... Not that much. Sometimes I can feel lag when typing, scrolling, browsing...
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Ace42 said:
1)Phone isn't faulty
2)SGSII has GPU rendering or HW accel.
3)HTC hasn't optimized Sense yet to have HW accel
Sense has always been laggy on stock, this holds true since Sense made its debut on the hero; such a shame that 2 years later the issue is still present in 3.0 . IF you root the phone can be returned to stock too, I'm sure you will prefer the perf boost from root...I use IC(insert coin) and it's extremely fast at 702 w/ smartassV2, and there's a MOD for a super fast rosie to make the homescreen faster. However it's your choice to keep the XE on stock or return it for SGSII.
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I guess ya right. SGS2 couldn't be compered as is has got acc. I was overclocled mine old sgs2 to 1.6ghz and ir was perfect. I thought that 1.5ghz of xe holds some serious power. Maybe it is. However, i really need to root it, its the only way to seek for it.

When I was on stock unrooted roms, I always depend on task killers to keep things smooth. Although it is said that gingerbread has its memory management. Hope it works for you. To each his own. Some feel stock is best. Cheers

madbeardo said:
Hi, I have got brand new XE. It is a way cool phone. But the problem is that it is pretty laggy. Then I am scrolling menu, internet pages it is lagging. It is thinking (loading stuff) too long. One time it has even rebooted. I can't understand because everything is stock in it. No custom rom, kernel.
So I want to ask you guys if this ways is the one it suppose to work?
I was using Galaxy S2 before and it was perfect phone for me until it was stolen. It worked perfect, there was no lag. And now in this laggy Xe i can't feel no convenience.
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You have a Sensation XE. Congratulations. If you want to get the best user experience out of it: flash a cooked ROM.
Whether it's due to sub-optimum policy of HTC or the superb qualities of the cooks on XDA doesn't matter. Enjoy your smartphone.
If you don't want read through tons of messages in order to find stable ROMs: MIUI and CM7 are not ready yet; Hypersensation offers a nice alternative; and in my opinion the best ROM that 'feels' close to stock is SenSEAY 2.1. It's clocked @1.2GHz, so it's not the fastest, but it has zero issues and full functionality. But even at that relatively lower speed it is definitely smoother (=feels faster) than stock (updated OTA to *.4).
best regards
and enjoy (=don't stay sad too long over the loss of your Galaxy SII)

I can't say that my XE is laggy, I'd do a reset as mentioned above.

Sensation, advantages and disadvantages, solving some issues

I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!

leyus said:
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks

I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.

Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS

Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.

kboater said:
I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.

MartijnGP said:
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.

[email protected]$oLiD said:
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.

csd181 said:
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me

leyus said:
I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.

MartijnGP said:
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.

leyus said:
Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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lorddart said:
How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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csd181 said:
Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)

mzmo said:
What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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Just Got The MyTouch 4G

Hello everyone..Just wanted to tell the world how excited I am to finally get another phone. After the awful mishap with my beloved T-Mobile G1, I was left using the Huawei U8350..Didn't think I'd get another Android anytime soon.
And then.. I found this beauty, MyTouch 4G, for $150 CAD...and already rooted..charged it up and was ready to go
Still getting used to not having a physical keyboard though.
In terms of development for this phone, I don't know much of what's been going on. Perhaps someone could fill me in on all the goodies? Do I need to upgrade my radio and spl? What is the best ROM, in terms of stability? I'm current;y running CM 7.1
Don't care much for extreme speeds..I just came off a phone that had 192MB of RAM and a 528MHz processor...this thing is flying for me =P
Any and all help/advice/opinions/suggestions are welcome =D
Thank You!

CM is the most stable you can go.
Also, as far as radios go, it's all about testing them. Some radios work better for certain people.

hello! please take your time to read the guides around here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20345155#post20345155
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281085
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20344884#post20344884
HAPPY FLASHING! AND WELCOME TO THE MYTOUCH 4G, YOU WON'T REGRET YOUR PURCHASE! ​

saranhai said:
hello! please take your time to read the guides around here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20345155#post20345155
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281085
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20344884#post20344884
HAPPY FLASHING! AND WELCOME TO THE MYTOUCH 4G, YOU WON'T REGRET YOUR PURCHASE! ​
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This is excellent information. Thank you!

SH31KH said:
This is excellent information. Thank you!
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Newest leaked radio seems to work well, as well as the panache radio is great too. stick with cm in terms of stability if that is your main concern.

We have many roms to choose from. Feel free to give them a shot if you have the time. I'm on feby's ICS, but I go back to sense 3.5. Cm7 is stable with no problems what so ever. All these devs are awesome, you'll find something that might catch your attention, so give their roms a go
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I went from a CM7 nightly to MIUI for awhile but now I'm on the beta 5.0 feb ICS...I'm using it as my DD and am on day 2 for now, I can live without a camera so it's not a big deal for me.
I came from a Galaxy S to mytouch4g and couldn't be happier. Welcome to the fam.

Thanks for all your replies..I feel so welcomed

I just joined the mytouch family also... Came from a vibrant. Loving it so far!! Welcome to a fellow newbie!!
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SH31KH said:
Hello everyone..Just wanted to tell the world how excited I am to finally get another phone. After the awful mishap with my beloved T-Mobile G1, I was left using the Huawei U8350..Didn't think I'd get another Android anytime soon.
And then.. I found this beauty, MyTouch 4G, for $150 CAD...and already rooted..charged it up and was ready to go
Still getting used to not having a physical keyboard though.
In terms of development for this phone, I don't know much of what's been going on. Perhaps someone could fill me in on all the goodies? Do I need to upgrade my radio and spl? What is the best ROM, in terms of stability? I'm current;y running CM 7.1
Don't care much for extreme speeds..I just came off a phone that had 192MB of RAM and a 528MHz processor...this thing is flying for me =P
Any and all help/advice/opinions/suggestions are welcome =D
Thank You!
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I have been using Virtuous Unity V2.39 for over a month. By far, it is the ROM that I've been satisfied with. I've used CM7 and while it is very stable, I like the Sense UI. Post engineering S-OFF method, I've had no problems to speak of for anything. Radio versions included.

SH31KH said:
Hello everyone..Just wanted to tell the world how excited I am to finally get another phone. After the awful mishap with my beloved T-Mobile G1, I was left using the Huawei U8350..Didn't think I'd get another Android anytime soon.
And then.. I found this beauty, MyTouch 4G, for $150 CAD...and already rooted..charged it up and was ready to go
Still getting used to not having a physical keyboard though.
In terms of development for this phone, I don't know much of what's been going on. Perhaps someone could fill me in on all the goodies? Do I need to upgrade my radio and spl? What is the best ROM, in terms of stability? I'm current;y running CM 7.1
Don't care much for extreme speeds..I just came off a phone that had 192MB of RAM and a 528MHz processor...this thing is flying for me =P
Any and all help/advice/opinions/suggestions are welcome =D
Thank You!
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Good for you!
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Give tdj's stable miui a spin ..its pretty good ...
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just got it a few hours ago.. rooted s=off
now im just thinking of what rom to use besides miui and cyanogen
any suggestions? virtuous unity looks good but its a few months old

Creamed Glacier or DARKSIDE SENSE 3.5

Virtuous Unity may be a few months old. But its going to be hard to beat if you want Sense 3.0. I've used CM7 on my Desire for over a year, and I just don't think it is as polished as Virtuous Unity. Maybe I'm the type that prefers to have a polished product first, then update it or remove components I don't like. If you are the same, you might find Unity is the place to start. Otherwise.... CM7.
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arcticfox9 said:
Virtuous Unity may be a few months old. But its going to be hard to beat if you want Sense 3.0. I've used CM7 on my Desire for over a year, and I just don't think it is as polished as Virtuous Unity. Maybe I'm the type that prefers to have a polished product first, then update it or remove components I don't like. If you are the same, you might find Unity is the place to start. Otherwise.... CM7.
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this rom is amazing. i hope they finish affinity

dave5777 said:
Good for you!
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Why so rude? I was only expressing the joy I was feeling. Why say something at all?
Well, in any case..I forgive you.

Tried 'em all
Hey guys,
So I've been keeping track of all your suggestions..and I really appreciate everyone's input =)
I ended up trying quite a few ROM's. Here's a list of what I can remember:
Virtuous Unity - It was Fast and Stable but didn't quite like the UI. I guess I'm a NON-Sense kinda guy.
MikRunny - Same problem with the UI
MIUI 1.12.23 - This one was very different from the usual ROM's. Very interesting take on the overall system. Very smooth, but not quite what I was looking for...
DARKSIDE CM7.2.0 - I really like this one a lot.
RCMix 4.0 - This one was nice too, but seemed a bit heavy in comparison to the rest..could just be me though =P
Creamed Glacier 5.1 - Of course I loved this, just because it's ICS. But it's not quite ready for me..few FC's, a bit of lag here and there, and no camera..
BlissSense - This one was pretty cool. I really liked the shortcuts on the home screen. The sliding tabs. Very good idea, easy to use.
RunnyDroid 2.1 - Definitely fast
Absolution - Nice theme and fast
BlackICE 1.23 - Really love the simplicity of this. Currently running this..
Pyramid3D - Not a fan of the UI, but I gotta say it really is much faster than other ROM's that are similar to this...
Pretty much every ROM runs extremely smooth, some have better battery life than others..but I've decided to stick with BlackICE for now until a fully working, bug-free version of ICS comes out
Just wanted to thank everyone again for all your inputs. Much appreciated!

No doubt about CM for stability but you might also want to try Darksense 4.0 for Sense tho most run Unity...I am currently running RCMix Energized cuz hey it is new - seems stable to me. Will give MIUI another try for sure as I only gave it a day in a bout of flashaholism ... however .... all the major ROMs that had good feedback on the resource bible were stable for me.
I am also a recent upgrade from a MT3G, but people have been building for this phone for a while and things are pretty stable outside of CM ... we are just behind the times!
I would definitely try a sense ROM and MIUI to experience the differences ...
Absolution also has a lot of dark themes ....
The new Touchcovery looks sweet too - going to try that out shortly ...