I came from the desire because of the internal storage capacity and battery life but the default rom is the ugliest thing I have seen in my life and for a first time droid owner they might think it is the best thing . the standard rom Isn't 2.2 but even the interface is bad so my question is has anybody flashed a HTC sense hased rom or alike to the mez yet and if so what guide did you use
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There is no HTC sense rom for the fascinate or mes
Just use launcherpro or adw. I doubt it is even possible to have an actual sense rom because sense is so ingrained in the core android... it probably wouldn't work.
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But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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When I say same everythings I mean same storage and memory mappings even though the mes has 1.5gig rom and less ram than the desire
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Touchwiz is horrible, use Launcher Pro
Like i was saying out of the many Droid phones I have had most recently the desire HTC sense has been the best as I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram. status Droid reports 2/3rds the resources the last phone had. So I do believe when I get the time I will venture into cooking Droid roms for myself. On a positive note of the mes the screen is awesome keyboard size is better but all of that can be edited in the image mappings of anything
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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Who's "they?" Considering you said you came from a HTC Desire, are you saying the Desire and Mesmerize have the "same everything?" In which case, you'd be no where close to correct.
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I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram
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Well your Highness, given your highly superior intellect and standards for which these phones must live up to, you'd think you'd be smart enough to check out the specs before you bought one.
Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces. And as for your total useless post to bump,flame or raise your post count. You did nothing to add to the conversation. Lastly not Highness here but the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret that the mez has very little memory to run all the neato Samsung features
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.
diabolical28 said:
Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces.
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You are simply just wrong.
diabolical28 said:
the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret
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Says who? I came from the Hero which comes stock with Sense and the majority of the ROMs in the Hero community and the most popular ones were not Sense based. Sense is okay, nothing wrong with it, but it is far from anything spectacular.
AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.
The only time I've seen sense on a phone that it didn't come with was when I installed android on the HTC touch and there was a hero rom installed and of course you can imagine it was quite sluggish but I haven't seen any other phones, at least not android native phones that were non HTC phones with a sense rom
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no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.
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Well said v! And I agree that touchwiz isn't great but root the phone and use launcher pro as sage said. There are other launchers out there. I personally use adw launcher. Try those out see what you think they are highly customizable play around and I bet you get a setup you enjoy. Or if you have add like me just change it every other day
Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.
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AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.
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Never even bothered to look up until now. Considering I had a awesome interface etc. But the search begins.
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Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.
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Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..
The new FroYo ROM seems to really help with battery life on the Desire. But yeah... The internal memory is what kept me away from it. I won't be buying another Samsung phone, that much is certain.
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Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..
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A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.
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A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.
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Depends on the radio/phone combo that you are trying to use. I've flashed four different radios to my Mesmerize and have not had a problem. I don't recommend it, but it can be done if you know what you are doing.
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Hello guys.
As the topic states, I'm trying to help my friend get the best user experience with the Sensation.
I myself, use a Galaxy S II, and have been using this + Galaxy S I for like 10 months now.
But this guy came to me to show off his brand new Sensation - I tried it - and I thought it TOTALLY sucked!? The UI is really slow and sluggish, not much different from a HTC Hero lol (ok well not that bad, but compared to my CM7nized Galaxy, it looks like a failed toy)
I was really disappointed for him, and I promised I'd find him the best ROM/kernel combination out there.
I thought it was a simply matter of bloatware and bad optimization at HTC's part. So I flashed LeeDroid onto his device, it got a bit better, but animations aren't as fluent as I'd like them. I can even discern the frames per second by eye.. (almost)
Is overclocking the only answer? I saw some kernels which support 1.89GHz, but since I have no knowledge of HTC, I wouldn't dare try.
Questions:
*What's the fastest ROM out there?
*What's making the Sensation so slow compared to Galaxy S II and iPhone 4? You'd think a dual core would run any version of Android easily.
*Do I have to overclock to make the Sensation lag-free?
*Why are there no AOSP roms yet? Is there something preventing this?
*Is his device maybe faulty?
I appreciate your answers.
And please, I didn't come here to troll or flame. Just trying to help my friend, so lets keep it civilized and no Android Phone-rivalry hate
dyallo said:
Hello guys.
As the topic states, I'm trying to help my friend get the best user experience with the Sensation.
I myself, use a Galaxy S II, and have been using this + Galaxy S I for like 10 months now.
But this guy came to me to show off his brand new Sensation - I tried it - and I thought it TOTALLY sucked!? The UI is really slow and sluggish, not much different from a HTC Hero lol (ok well not that bad, but compared to my CM7nized Galaxy, it looks like a failed toy)
I was really disappointed for him, and I promised I'd find him the best ROM/kernel combination out there.
I thought it was a simply matter of bloatware and bad optimization at HTC's part. So I flashed LeeDroid onto his device, it got a bit better, but animations aren't as fluent as I'd like them. I can even discern the frames per second by eye.. (almost)
Is overclocking the only answer? I saw some kernels which support 1.89GHz, but since I have no knowledge of HTC, I wouldn't dare try.
Questions:
*What's the fastest ROM out there?
*What's making the Sensation so slow compared to Galaxy S II and iPhone 4? You'd think a dual core would run any version of Android easily.
*Do I have to overclock to make the Sensation lag-free?
*Why are there no AOSP roms yet? Is there something preventing this?
*Is his device maybe faulty?
I appreciate your answers.
And please, I didn't come here to troll or flame. Just trying to help my friend, so lets keep it civilized and no Android Phone-rivalry hate
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Keep well in mind that YOUR phone has been out MUCH MUCH longer than our Sensations. Also, we JUST got S-OFF recently which leaves very little time to have been developing.
Also, from what I understand, android is not utilizing the sensations dual cores properly, yet. That, along with Sense 3.0, and the lack of hardware acceleration all come together for a less than wow effect. However, with ADW EX (paid) my phone is faster than I can discern. That, and the fact that I froze Sense along with a lot of other stuff with Titanium after I rooted.
Give it time, you will see the Sensation really begin to fly. CM7 is due any day now for us as well...After thats all taken care of, have a look at the sharp look of the Sensation! Its got the looks on the outside right now, and soon someone will give it the looks it can have on the inside. HTC rushed this phone and designed it to appeal to the masses.
Id bet that the phone with ADW EX and Sense 3.0 frozen would look as fast as yours. It may not hang in there, yet, with the benchmarks but your daily use would likely seem to be just as fast. Oh and that is with my stock ROM and no overclock.
Matt
I purchased an SGII and was really impressed with the camera.....
and that was all.....
Sold it on ebay 2 days after purchase!
Cheap plastic.....
And if it's that good, why put CM7 on it? It shouldn't need improving should it?
using stock kernel + rom i have 0 lag and phone is amazing...
just used adb method to pause all applications not being used/bloatware
but you could also just delete unused apks with root explorer or whatever you may have since ur already s-off with root
(suggest backing up if you have any problems u can restore apk :| )
kurtish said:
I purchased an SGII and was really impressed with the camera.....
and that was all.....
Sold it on ebay 2 days after purchase!
Cheap plastic.....
And if it's that good, why put CM7 on it? It shouldn't need improving should it?
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'Cause it's been a while since I ran Cyanogenmod, and I wanted to try the latest nightly.
Normally, I use VillainROM which is based on Samsungs sources, but with bloatware removed and deodex/zipaligned apks which is almost just as fast.
Thanks though, I'll forward your tips on freezing all Sense apks and run ADW Launcher EX instead (incidently, this is the launcher I use on my own phone and yes, i love it too.)
But no ROM or Kernel recommendations? Aww, I went through all this S-Off crap for nothing?
Give a dog a bone
Try any 2.3.4 ROM (I'm using InsertCoin). The phone will be much faster
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idavid_ said:
Try any 2.3.4 ROM (I'm using InsertCoin). The phone will be much faster
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Thanks, alot of people seem to be recommending InsertCoin
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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rickyjune said:
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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I believe with Titanium Backup or something similar.
rickyjune said:
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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Titanium Backup Pro. I'm not sure what all exactly you need to freeze, but I'm sure anything with "Sense" in it you'd want to freeze.
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How do u freeze HTC Sense
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Delete rosie.apk or freeze it. I delete mine. I use adw ex anyway and its faster than sense
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dyallo said:
Thanks, alot of people seem to be recommending InsertCoin
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I use LeeDroid. Constant updates and tweaks.
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Try Android Revolution HD 2.1.0, I just flashed this last night. Really impressed. Loads faster and still using the stock kernel for 2.3.4
Custom kernel's are on there way for this rom too which should make it fly.
Btw, does your friend have/had the newest 2.3.4 OTA? It improves speed as well
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
2.3.4 version of the custom rom i am using has definitely made a big speed improvement over 2.3.3
He is on LeeDroid rom now, I believe its 2.3.4 based! Right??
yeah it is based on 2.3.4
lol, yet another Galaxy troller
PLEASEEEE use the P3D Neon V4 ROM and use the kernel it comes with. Honestly, it's the best ROM I have used on the Sensation. Flash that, look at the UI and it'll make you wish you could have Sense 3.0 on your GalaxyS2. Make sure you also flash the 4.1 update on top!
It's smooth, has good battery life, and has a sexy theme with a lot of eye-candy that doesn't slow the phone down. If you don't believe me, please flash it and report back with what your friend says. Don't report back with what you thought of it, just what he thought because I don't wanna read a biased post lol.
Also, when we finally get CM7, the speed will be on-par with any other dualcore device.
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Sent from my Leedroided Htc Sensation 4g!
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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jpeepers said:
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
jpeepers said:
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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History would suggest that we've gotten everything we will get from ATT. HTC may continue to develop for the Ace, but it will most likely only be released for the DHD. (Desire HD)
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side
if AT&T is still selling this phone in 18 months then yes, per the alliance they made with Google, the Inspire will get Ice Cream Sandwich. At the Last Google I/O At&T was among the companies agreeing to this improved situation, vowing to bring their phones current.
gunnyman said:
if AT&T is still selling this phone in 18 months then yes, per the alliance they made with Google, the Inspire will get Ice Cream Sandwich. At the Last Google I/O At&T was among the companies agreeing to this improved situation, vowing to bring their phones current.
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That's dang good info sir! You gotta link to feast teh eyes upon?
Yes, I do remember AT&T being part of the group that made that commitment, but knowing AT&T after being with em for 10 years, I wouldn't hold em to it.
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Joshp406 said:
Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
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+1
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here's linky http://www.slashgear.com/guidelines...-by-google-for-android-at-google-io-10151174/
Joshp406 said:
Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
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Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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jpeepers said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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That is the norm with US based phones. They get maybe one release from the carrier and the rest are ports from the euro version of the phone as they are supported longer. We have seen the only update from att that we are going to get.
jpeepers said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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VU is not even close to being stock.
zelendel said:
VU is not even close to being stock.
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No, there's nothing stock about the rom itself. But it does have a clean stock feel to it. That and it's the most stable I've tried for daily driver use.
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If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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+1 ... I loved my stock rom, then I changed to the VU and now I'm love VU.
anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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If you want aosp features on a stock Rom then check out static nonsense. It's stock without Rosie.
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jpeepers said:
Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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Gingerbeast
You piqued my interest, actually it was Zel. I started thinking about what is out there, actively being developed, based on US Inspire roms. I took a look over in the Dev section and all I could come up with is ClearDroid.
I think you can still get roms from Pirate based on the ATT gingerbread release and Juicy's TELUS DHD is supposed to be the same hardware as the Inspire, but his ROM is based on the TELUS release.
I have used ClearDroid gingerbread. It's a great ROM and ClearD and his team tenaciously develop and support. It's a little vanilla, compared to some DHD or port based roms, but is better than the ATT approved ROM in every way. It is faster, more stable, prettier and better supported. I always go back to it when I've had my fill of the eye candy. I won't tell you it's the best ROM out there, everyone has different tastes, and we've got great devs doing amazing things with other bases, but you may want to try it before completely writing off custom roms.
It's just my opinion, and worth about as much as that old Pentium 2 in my closet, but i'm throwing it out there anyway.
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jpeepers said:
Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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That's the beautiful thing about Android and this site. You can try a variety of different flavors and combinations and always go back to where you started. You'll never know if you like something or not if you don't try it. Just do a nandroid and test the waters.
The Sense 3 DHD leak is pretty nice and would be a great upgrade for the Inspire but, alas, we'll probably never see an actual Inspire based on this build because AT&T has the final say. AT&T is dragging HTC down like an anchor tied to a sack full of toasters.
So I was just wondering what was the huge difference between the two. What are the advantages and the disadvantages, the pros and cons. Please support your reasoning cause I don't know the difference between the two at all (Other than the themes)
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-Also if you do support CyanogenMod, which rom do you prefer and why?
Thanks!
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I prefer cyanogen because it doesn't have all of the bloatware that the original rom would include. by doing this, it frees up much more space and also opens up so much more ram on the phone. I'm currently using hypersensation cm7 and I've had no issues so far. I also like the fact that cyanogen is pure android, unlike HTC's sense roms. it's really a matter of preference. some people love the features that sense roms include and some enjoy just having a pure android device(me included). I can add the same features, looks, etc that sense has, but without adding the actual htc sense which saves a ton of room on my phone. it isn't all cluttered with the added htc sense. That all being said, I am very impressed with how fast some of these sense roms actually are and I've tried a ton of them. Some I actually like, but since converting over to no sense roms such as cm7, I've kind of been hooked ever since. basically, it really comes down to user preference.
Don't know if this helped any lol but if it did, kindly hit the thanks button...thanks
you can always private msg me if you have more questions..
Your input was very helpful. But I have another question, how's the battery life with CM7? Would you say its better than sense roms?
that depends on which kernel you're using. I would say battery life is ok with moderate use, but nothing special. I can usually go a full day on a single charge with moderate usage. that being said, I'm seriously thinking of upgrading the battery. I've read about the evo3d batteries that you can use with the sensation.. I may go that route, or maybe check out an anker battery.. it's kind of a tough decision because there are so many pro's and con's on here.. some people love the anker batteries, and some hate them.. so I'm still undecided.
my current kernel is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17697845#post17697845
(Bricked-v1.2-final-ondmnd-1536-192.show-p1984)
What is the difference (that you noticed or has been reported), in terms of usability/battery, with bricked vs CM Bumblebee kernels on CM7?
I have just switch to CM7 today after trying out a couple of sense ROMs. The sense roms were very fast (not as fast as CM7 imo) but I really don't use sense and like the tweaks and customisation in CM7. If the battery can hold up I'll be using it from now on.
For me, the kernel that is within cm7 just seemed to drain my battery a little more then when I used the the bricked kernel. Of course everyone's experience is different. But when I was using the bumblebee kernel(after light/moderate use), it seemed like my battery was dying an hour to an hour and a half earlier then when I was using the bricked version. Maybe one is undervolted a little more then the other?? I'm not really sure. But this was just my own experience.. everyones is a bit different I'm sure
Oh ok, thanks. Are you using Hypersensation ROM? How is that compared to CM7 SelfKang Alphafied?
So, I decided to give Cyanogen Mod a try but for some reason Titanium Backup wont find my backed up apps. It's in the root folder of my SD card but it wont detect them.
Sense comes with many widgets, and allows the user to have consistent look n their home screen. The lockscreen is also different than AOSP. What I like the most about sense is that it sports a full featured camera app that is hard to beat. The one on CM7 is anemic in comparison. I also haven't found a keyboard yet that allows me to backup and sync a user dictionary.
People always complain that it's really bloated, but they're just crying because they don't wanna go through titanium backup to remove the extraneous apps.
What CM7 does extremely well is providing its fans a consistent experience of android across all platforms. Name of their game is fast and efficient. You're able to tweak a lot more settings than Sense. But for the speed and efficiency improvements, you're sacrificing functionality and in some cases, eye candy. I might switch over to CM7, once they fix their camera and video recording issues.
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|ChauMein| said:
So, I decided to give Cyanogen Mod a try but for some reason Titanium Backup wont find my backed up apps. It's in the root folder of my SD card but it wont detect them.
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Remove the USB cable connecting your phone to the computer, or just keep the phone on charging mode, instead of disk.
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nrvnqsrxk said:
Remove the USB cable connecting your phone to the computer, or just keep the phone on charging mode, instead of disk.
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The charger wasn't plugged in. I did a restore back to a Sense rom for now. Is it normal for CM7.1 to not detect Titanium Backup from a previous sense rom?
I've never had any issues with my backups with any version of cm7 using titanium backup.. so I'm clueless at the moment....
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The charger wasn't plugged in. I did a restore back to a Sense rom for now. Is it normal for CM7.1 to not detect Titanium Backup from a previous sense rom?
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Obviously not normal.
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Okay, the Titanium Backup issue is fixed, but now my home button isn't working. D:
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Okay, the Titanium Backup issue is fixed, but now my home button isn't working. D:
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Reboot. It should fix it.
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Reboot. It should fix it.
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Didn't work ): Any other suggestions?
back on the op, cm7 for speed and battery life, but not as good looks.
sense: less speed a lil, badder batt life, but way good sexy slick looks
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Didn't work ): Any other suggestions?
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Prior to installing CM7 you made sure to do a full wipe, right?
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I have used AOSP and Sense ROMs on the Sensation and EVO 4G.
AOSP/CM7: This is my preference because it allows for so much customization including power consumption among other things.
It does lack some of the nice apps like the sense camera, however I view that as a nicety for the phone since I'd rather use a good digital camera for pics like that.
AOSP based have always seemed faster due to the minimalistic nature of the ROM.
Sense: Very feature rich with same general user experience across platforms.
OOB experience is also very nice.
I've always found Sense to use more power than AOSP based ROMs.
That being said, it depends on the user and the user's skills/experience on which to choose to use.
Having the customization options available for a noob could result in poor experience and negative feedback.
Finally, a well thought out response between AOSP vs. Sense. Ultimately, what works best for you will be what you're looking for your phone to do. Mission drives the gear.
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I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
[email protected]$oLiD said:
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.
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I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.
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And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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Just to make things clear, I've not got the Sensation ICS upgrade yet - but I've become a lot less enthusiastic about it after seeing the screenshots.
To me, it still looks almost identical. Under the hood I'm sure the changes are numerous. And sure there are some changes to some aspects of the GUI, but it's really not the wholesale change that stock ICS brought in with the nice cool blue holo theme on the Galaxy Nexus. I know HTC want the differentiation in their handsets, but I have to say, for the first time in my Android life, I'm thinking about rooting and whether my next Android phone will be an HTC at all....
It just looks a bit tired and dated. The HTC One X looks nice on paper (although I wish it had the AMOLED screen of the S), but the screenshots when it shows the software are making me yawn.
I'm interested to hear if others feel the same or whether they are still excited about the upgrade. Maybe it's just me!?!
Anyway, I'm off to read about rooting I'd be interested to hear what you think the best ICS ROMs are.
And it's going to be exactly the same with other manufacturer phones too such as samsung who will do the same and put their software on top.
It brings a lot of nice little changes does ICS and definitely worth the upgrade. If you didn't want Sense then get an AOSP rom installed or buy a pure android phone.
Sense is very good though and feel it adds a lot to the phone that stock android can't do.
Phil
Thanks for your reply Phil. I must admit, I was hoping the SGS3 wouldn't have too much crap put on it - it could well be my next phone if it's relatively "clean".
Before ICS, I completely agree - Sense added a lot for me and made the whole system consistent and a pleasure to use. But since getting an Asus Transformer Prime and having stock ICS (pretty much), I've realised that as of ICS, there isn't really anything that Sense adds for me anymore. Google has basically implemented all the Sense stuff I liked, and has moved the interface on at the same time (which HTC doesn't seem to be doing).
Of course, this is all personal opinion....
Thanks for the heads up on AOSP. I think I need to read up on how to do it and what kind of stability it has on the Sensation.
This is what I thought as well. The UI changes are minimal. A few changes here and there, and everything looks more minimalistic. I was very excited about the new lock screen on Android, but we didn't even get that What I do like, though is how much faster the phone is now, and the face unlock screen is awesome.
However, I will never ever use a custom rom on this. Def not worth shortening it's life-cycle.
I like Sense but it's not very well integrated with ICS, it seems a lot more disjointed than it was with Gingerbread. I'm considering just going with stock ICS for the consistency.
I don't like a lot of the changes to Sense such as the quick launch bar thing on the home screen, I much preferred it before. The shots of Sense on the One X look a hell of a lot nicer though so hopefully that'll make me happy.
different people have different tastes.
while ics might not be so captivating to some, but others look at it as a huge step forward from gingerbread. i personally dont look at ui changes and other personalization stuff. i decide to buy or not based on the hardware. OP said the one X is not as impressive as the one S. (if that's what the S stands for) but if u look deeper, one X only hoists tegra 3 while the one S has qualcomms latest krait s4 which is obviously faster than tegra 3. but screens aside, the one S dont amuse me at all. it only has a crappy pentile matrix which carries images that are not so sharp and sometimes blurred edges..
that said, different people has different tastes..
really? what was the need to create this useless thread? this is a development web-site/forum that is geared towards tweaking the stock stuff to come up with something different.
but I have to say, for the first time in my Android life, I'm thinking about rooting and whether my next Android phone will be an HTC at all....
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are you giving us a favor by rooting or what's the point here? you're not happy with HTC's version of android? go get a different branded phone or an iphone in that case.
this *****ing and moaning is off the gum-line recently. i'm still on a gb build and patiently waiting for the final release. will it be all that great? i don't think so, but has there ever been a "perfect" anything?
Just to make things clear, I've not got the Sensation ICS upgrade yet
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your whole post should have stopped right there, where you're missing a period...
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However, I will never ever use a custom rom on this. Def not worth shortening it's life-cycle.
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Explain please??? How does using a custom rom shorten the life cycle?????
moshbeard said:
I like Sense but it's not very well integrated with ICS, it seems a lot more disjointed than it was with Gingerbread. I'm considering just going with stock ICS for the consistency.
I don't like a lot of the changes to Sense such as the quick launch bar thing on the home screen, I much preferred it before. The shots of Sense on the One X look a hell of a lot nicer though so hopefully that'll make me happy.
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Can you explain how sense is not integrated? If anything, it seems better than GB...
I really think ICS is one of those things you really need to experience and try it before voicing your opinions on it. I didn't think I'd like it as it looked ugly in pictures, but I can't imagine going back to GB now that I've been using it.
I'll ask my question again as I've never heard this ever, how does anybody think using a custom rom will shorten your phone's life??????
Just use nova launcher.
I think the ICS upgrade has been awesome so far. I isntalled a script to "remove sense" that was in the android revolution thread in the development section, and it's been great. HTC theme is still there (just no sense launcher/lock screen), and I use the nova lock screen and it seems to me, to be better than stock android in this configuration.
The phone's faster, the chrome browser is great, nova launcher is awesome. I was looking forward to a new phone, but not anymore. The new ones coming out arent that much better.
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OP said the one X is not as impressive as the one S. (if that's what the S stands for) but if u look deeper, one X only hoists tegra 3 while the one S has qualcomms latest krait s4 which is obviously faster than tegra 3. but screens aside, the one S dont amuse me at all. it only has a crappy pentile matrix which carries images that are not so sharp and sometimes blurred edges...
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When I was talking about the S being better - I meant the AMOLED screen - and that alone. I can't use the Sensation as a bedside clock because of light bleed, but my old Desire with the AMOLED screen was great at this. The colours were also really vibrant - although a bit less realistic.
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really? what was the need to create this useless thread? this is a development web-site/forum that is geared towards tweaking the stock stuff to come up with something different.
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Actually the development bit would be Sensation Android Development forum. This bit is called Sensation General which is described as: "Discussion about HTC Sensation (general chat, tips & tricks, etc)". The "general chat" bit should give it away if that wasn't clear enough for you.
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are you giving us a favor by rooting or what's the point here? you're not happy with HTC's version of android? go get a different branded phone or an iphone in that case.
this *****ing and moaning is off the gum-line recently. i'm still on a gb build and patiently waiting for the final release. will it be all that great? i don't think so, but has there ever been a "perfect" anything?
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I'm not "giving you a favor" (whatever that means). And as I said, I may well get another brand of phone - I actually wrote that in my original post. The point of the post was simply to gauge peoples reaction to HTCs efforts in porting ICS - as per the "general discussion" which this forum is designed for.
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your whole post should have stopped right there, where you're missing a period...
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Thanks for your kind words. Welcome to the block list. Troll.
kingston73 said:
Explain please??? How does using a custom rom shorten the life cycle????
I'll ask my question again as I've never heard this ever, how does anybody think using a custom rom will shorten your phone's life??????
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It means that if you use a custom rom that is not stable, and it overclocks your phone, the hardware will not function properly for as long as it would with stock rom. If anything is incorrectly "set" it will cause problems with the hardware, and this will eventually damage it. This doesn't concern leaked stock roms.
I've flashed my previous model as it was so cheap anyway,but with $400 phone I will not take the risk.
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When I was talking about the S being better - I meant the AMOLED screen - and that alone. I can't use the Sensation as a bedside clock because of light bleed, but my old Desire with the AMOLED screen was great at this. The colours were also really vibrant - although a bit less realistic.
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The Super LCD2 in the one X is better than the super amoled in the GNex! Search YouTube for one X vs GNex. The super LCD 2 is full RGB not pentile 720p display ( ips technology) with excellent viewing angles and vibrant colours. Watch some reviews and you will see what I'm talking about. I was a fan of Super Amoled until I saw the display of the one X.
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tifosi256 said:
When I was talking about the S being better - I meant the AMOLED screen - and that alone. I can't use the Sensation as a bedside clock because of light bleed, but my old Desire with the AMOLED screen was great at this. The colours were also really vibrant - although a bit less realistic.
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the sensation is proven to have 2 different screen manufacturers, one better than the other
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It means that if you use a custom rom that is not stable, and it overclocks your phone, the hardware will not function properly for as long as it would with stock rom. If anything is incorrectly "set" it will cause problems with the hardware, and this will eventually damage it. This doesn't concern leaked stock roms.
I've flashed my previous model as it was so cheap anyway,but with phone I will not take the risk.
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But you don't have to overclock, it's in your control with apps like SetCPU etc. Anyway, it'll only decrease the life if you leave it on a very high clock speed for a long period of time, basically, you'll have likely upgraded/lost/broken your phone before overclocking kills it from what I understand.
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But you don't have to overclock, it's in your control with apps like SetCPU etc. Anyway, it'll only decrease the life if you leave it on a very high clock speed for a long period of time, basically, you'll have likely upgraded/lost/broken your phone before overclocking kills it from what I understand.
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Yeah but how many of these people REALLY keep an eye on the phone's hardware and keep changing the cpu settings back and forth? I would guess not too many, unless you know what you're doing. I'm not claiming that overclocking will kill your phone instantly or anything like that.. It'd take months, or even years till that happened (depending on how high you've set it).
But even still, for some models there are some experimental / unfinished roms that have loads of bugs; the phone screen keeps flashing, it reboots randomly etc.. I cannot help but think this cannot be good for the hardware.
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Yeah but how many of these people REALLY keep an eye on the phone's hardware and keep changing the cpu settings back and forth? I would guess not too many, unless you know what you're doing. I'm not claiming that overclocking will kill your phone instantly or anything like that.. It'd take months, or even years till that happened (depending on how high you've set it).
But even still, for some models there are some experimental / unfinished roms that have loads of bugs; the phone screen keeps flashing, it reboots randomly etc.. I cannot help but think this cannot be good for the hardware.
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Keep an eye on the hardware as in check whether it's overheating or feeling too warm?
You don't need need to change the CPU settings back and forth though, they can just be set to Max 1600MHz and a Min of 384MHz and then select 'Set on Boot'.
True, those probably aren't great for the hardware but who would (or even could) use those kind of Pre-Alpha ROM's for more than a day even?
FnH84 said:
It means that if you use a custom rom that is not stable, and it overclocks your phone, the hardware will not function properly for as long as it would with stock rom. If anything is incorrectly "set" it will cause problems with the hardware, and this will eventually damage it. This doesn't concern leaked stock roms.
I've flashed my previous model as it was so cheap anyway,but with $400 phone I will not take the risk.
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I have never heard of a single case of somebody shortening the life of their phone because they rooted and used a custom rom. I know people have bricked their phones in the ATTEMPT to to root or flash a new rom, but that's not the same thing. I just don't buy your theory, sorry. As for the OP, if you don't like ICS because you've used it for a week and prefer GB, that's good. But if you don't like it because of what you've HEARD or read, that's just pointless, as others here have already posted.
tifosi256 said:
Actually the development bit would be Sensation Android Development forum. This bit is called Sensation General which is described as: "Discussion about HTC Sensation (general chat, tips & tricks, etc)". The "general chat" bit should give it away if that wasn't clear enough for you.
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you're so full of fail... this whole forum, as in xda-developers.com is a place for, you guessed it - developers. I don't think chatting about something you haven't even tried counts
tifosi256 said:
I'm not "giving you a favor" (whatever that means). And as I said, I may well get another brand of phone - I actually wrote that in my original post. The point of the post was simply to gauge peoples reaction to HTCs efforts in porting ICS - as per the "general discussion" which this forum is designed for.
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you made it sound like it was a huge deal to root a phone, and now, for the first time in your life, you're going to go ahead and start reading about it. We already have numerous threads that deal with "reactions." How can you even have a "reaction" to something you haven't tried?
tifosi256 said:
Thanks for your kind words. Welcome to the block list. Troll.
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Honestly, I've used every version of sense... 1.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, AND 4. Sure, 4 is great. I do like it, it's a lot simpler than the others. (HTC said they felt Sense became bloated themselves.) However, I do believe that Sense 3.6 is a very nice version of Sense. It's not at all disjointed in my opinion like I have seen others say, I mean... compared to Sense 2.1 maybe... BUT Sense 2.1 didn't have any of the 3D or extra gloss that 3.0, 3.5, and 3.6 have. I feel that they really redesigned the Sense interface rather well for ICS and they integrated all of the things from the previous builds that made Sense great, plus some. I was actually thinking if 4.0 came out for Sensation I might even stay with 3.6 because it's a well built, stable version of Sense. They did a great job with the new button sliders, the new notification area looks, etc. I love it over GB Sense.