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HTC sense on mes....

I came from the desire because of the internal storage capacity and battery life but the default rom is the ugliest thing I have seen in my life and for a first time droid owner they might think it is the best thing . the standard rom Isn't 2.2 but even the interface is bad so my question is has anybody flashed a HTC sense hased rom or alike to the mez yet and if so what guide did you use
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There is no HTC sense rom for the fascinate or mes

Just use launcherpro or adw. I doubt it is even possible to have an actual sense rom because sense is so ingrained in the core android... it probably wouldn't work.
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But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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When I say same everythings I mean same storage and memory mappings even though the mes has 1.5gig rom and less ram than the desire
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Touchwiz is horrible, use Launcher Pro

Like i was saying out of the many Droid phones I have had most recently the desire HTC sense has been the best as I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram. status Droid reports 2/3rds the resources the last phone had. So I do believe when I get the time I will venture into cooking Droid roms for myself. On a positive note of the mes the screen is awesome keyboard size is better but all of that can be edited in the image mappings of anything
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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Who's "they?" Considering you said you came from a HTC Desire, are you saying the Desire and Mesmerize have the "same everything?" In which case, you'd be no where close to correct.
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diabolical28 said:
I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram
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Well your Highness, given your highly superior intellect and standards for which these phones must live up to, you'd think you'd be smart enough to check out the specs before you bought one.

Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces. And as for your total useless post to bump,flame or raise your post count. You did nothing to add to the conversation. Lastly not Highness here but the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret that the mez has very little memory to run all the neato Samsung features
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.

diabolical28 said:
Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces.
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You are simply just wrong.
diabolical28 said:
the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret
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Says who? I came from the Hero which comes stock with Sense and the majority of the ROMs in the Hero community and the most popular ones were not Sense based. Sense is okay, nothing wrong with it, but it is far from anything spectacular.

AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.

The only time I've seen sense on a phone that it didn't come with was when I installed android on the HTC touch and there was a hero rom installed and of course you can imagine it was quite sluggish but I haven't seen any other phones, at least not android native phones that were non HTC phones with a sense rom

v_lestat said:
no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.
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Well said v! And I agree that touchwiz isn't great but root the phone and use launcher pro as sage said. There are other launchers out there. I personally use adw launcher. Try those out see what you think they are highly customizable play around and I bet you get a setup you enjoy. Or if you have add like me just change it every other day

Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.

Cythrawl said:
AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.
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Never even bothered to look up until now. Considering I had a awesome interface etc. But the search begins.

ganzhimself said:
Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.
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Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..

The new FroYo ROM seems to really help with battery life on the Desire. But yeah... The internal memory is what kept me away from it. I won't be buying another Samsung phone, that much is certain.

diabolical28 said:
Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..
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A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.

add144 said:
A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.
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Depends on the radio/phone combo that you are trying to use. I've flashed four different radios to my Mesmerize and have not had a problem. I don't recommend it, but it can be done if you know what you are doing.

CM7 or InsertCoin?

I know with ROMs it really comes down to personall opinion.. so what's your personal opinion, go with CM7 or insertCoin, an why did you pick what you picked!

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I know with ROMs it really comes down to personall opinion.. so what's your personal opinion, go with CM7 or insertCoin, an why did you pick what you picked!
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whenever i wanna use sense its insertcoin and CM7 when i dont wanna. i suggest using IC if you dont wanna deal with all these bugs that are present in CM7 because its only an alpha. Im not saying that CM7 isnt usable, but you might not be satisfied with some missing features

Try both, do a backup, you can always come back. I am running cm7.
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i was on ARHD and im about to flash IC.. im just too new to try CM7, maybe later.

I stick with IC because baad's releases are generally very stable and he's crazy quick to fix stuff when things aren't working. Plus his rom is as fast as any out there. I do play with the CM7 releases but find myself missing some sense stuff like the camera, keyboard, general ease of customization and proper sizing of wallpaper.
I guess CM7 is supposed to be fast, but I really haven't missed much speed with any of the sense roms tbh. As long as I can play the occasional game and emulate PSX smoothly, I really don't care if sense is running in the background and "hogging up resources".

Can i have a link on both CM7 and IC for 2.3.3 Sensation thanks!

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Can i have a link on both CM7 and IC for 2.3.3 Sensation thanks!
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Go to dev forum and find them. It isn't so hard. Or if you can't, use the search function
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It's all personal preference when it comes down to it. Sense vs. Vanilla. Honestly, I was missing Sense a lot when I switched over to CM7 a few days ago, but the only thing I really miss is the camera, and now I just replaced it with Vignette. If you need the Sense stuff then I'd say go with InsertCoin (I've never used it. I was on ARHD before I went to CM7). I don't really see any of the bugs that people are talking about for CM7 other than not being able to record 1080p without it rebooting on you. One thing I did find though is that my battery meter isn't exact and it's kind of annoying me and I can't figure out how to fix it.
Try both, and do nandroid backups. I'd say a day or two on both and you'll know which one you want.

Depends on your preferences. If you like have all the sense goodies you can flash the IC right now, expecially the new sense3.5 version is really stable and fast, else if you like have an android stock experience with low impact on your device resources and an incredible high responsive system CM7 is the way to go.
This said, i must underline the fact that in CM7 there are some thing that must be tuned up and are sightly less enjoyable and pratical compared to the Sense rom's equivalent sector. EG: the camera in CM7 does really bad when it comes to some shot that goes beyond the typical photo, and the addition of the touch to focus in the last version is not enough to close the gap, and this occurs also in social integration and some other aspect.
Generally i choose a sense rom, but i remove al the bloatware (watch, locations in primis) with TitaniumBackup and i'm just fine. With the last IC i have 190mb of RAM free in idle, and a surprisingly responsive phone, wich is great for me.
PS: i hope my english is good enough, it is some time i don't practice it up now

I am a bit new to all this. Have rooted my sensation. Looking forward using IC roms!

stanleynhan said:
whenever i wanna use sense its insertcoin and CM7 when i dont wanna. i suggest using IC if you dont wanna deal with all these bugs that are present in CM7 because its only an alpha. Im not saying that CM7 isnt usable, but you might not be satisfied with some missing features
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CM7 is basically bug free. If it were any other CM dev it'd be classified as an RC...
What are "all the bugs"?

I alternate alot between incertcoin and cm7 I just can't decide I love them both. It depends on what you like.
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Now which ROM between the two, is the way to go for speeds?
And what are the pros and Cons of each of the 2, IN YOUR OPINION!

For speed ? I would say cm7 with out a doubt
Pros about cm7. Nice interface, minimalistic design, fast, snappy ,cm7 theme chooser, Cyanogenmod settings! Close to stock and very light
Cons- still has a few bugs. Dialer ,camera
Bland compared to sense
Ic pros- has Sense , is really smooth and plenty fast for most, camera ,dialer , lockscreen,nice widgets and ui ,keyboard ,might have beats depending on the Rom you get, some other HTC apps. Nice animations and effects.
Cons- its quite heavy so not as snappy as cm7 but insert coin is really smooth.
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I've tried both and I can say I prefer IC, But after all it really comes to what features you want from your phone, I really recommend you to try both or even other great roms that are offered on XDA.
I personally prefer Sense 3.5 (Therefor IC) because of the awesome widgets and how they integrate with the system.

If you are looking for speed and speed only my advice is go and flash CM7 right now. But, if you care something about social integration, camera, better ui/animation and a set of truely useful and integrated widgets take some time on the IC and judge if it's fast enough for you

Or you can use boot manager and have the best of both worlds.
I have a 3D, but since the sensation is very similar I could honestly say cm would fly on you guys device. Not trying to be bias but on another note I think that AOSP is more healthier for are phones.
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I'd choose CM7 because I'm used to it.

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Or you can use boot manager and have the best of both worlds.
I have a 3D, but since the sensation is very similar I could honestly say cm would fly on you guys device. Not trying to be bias but on another note I think that AOSP is more healthier for are phones.
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You're probably right, but no one can make me give up my Sense.
I, I love my Sense like a love song, baby. And I keep hittin repeat peat peat peat peat
CM7 is quick, but that's like saying u slept with the uglier chick because she was skinnier.
Praos of CM7 are that it's fast, consistent, and backed with high qual developers with stringent standards.
Cons are that all of these CM7 devs are so Spartan in their barebones approach that the phone is lacking in some areas. Not having a full functioning camera that can record hd vid was a dealbreaker for me. I also found that I missed the Sense keyboard.

I had CM7 on my Sensation for one day. It was very fast, especially the boot time was very short.
The interface is ok, but not as nice as Sense. I love Sense, although it is not that fast, i dont know. As I had several reboots with CM7, I switched so the new Stock with Sense 3.5.
Later, when Lee is back, I will go back to LeeDroid. Had there some random reboots, too. Hopefully he adds Sense 3.5

[Q] Looking for help choosing a ROM

Thanks in advance for any help you fine chaps may (or may not!) provide.
Been lurking for quite a while. My brother rooted and put Cyanogen on my MyTouch3G about a year ago, and now that I'm on Senny for 60 days, I've about had it with the clutter and bloatware that came with the phone.
What I'm looking for:
- A sleek, sexy look. This will probably involve installing the ICS theme at some point.
- Minimalist. Seriously. I use like 20-25 apps. Maybe. If I don't use it, get it the hell off my phone.
- Good Camera. My phone is my social line. I take pictures of my cat, record idiots in the parking lot, and use it like a mirror all the frakkin time.
- Good Performance. Shouldn't need to be stated on a forum like this, but yes.
- Good Battery Life. Alas, the Stock Battery life has much to be desired of on the Sensation, but much can be fixed through a 1730 battery and judicious Modding.
What I'm not Looking for:
- The 2009 Android Look. Seriously. We're beyond that. Lockscreen Widgets, beautiful status bars, I need it, I want it. It's why I pay for a nice phone.
- So Barebones that I have to call a Bishop and pray to 7 saints in order to find settings or get to commonly used features.
Unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to part ways with HTC Sense. It's certainly a beautiful program. (I love the lock ring. I've embraced it and loved it since the first day. Goodbye, ring.) Unfortunately, many of you claim (and some others yet prove) that the Sense is a leech upon the Android system and needs to be purged. Up onto the altar now Sense. Yes. You. Shoo. Time for the sacrifice.
With that in mind, I've been recommended to use:
Reverted (The expansion on Xboarder's Mod). Looks interesting enough to try.
On the forums I've seen and have interest in:
HyperSensation
Cyanogen7 Basic
The drawbacks to the first is that it's still pretty deep in development it seems (Reverted, despite Xboarder's being pretty complete.) I also have heard that ADW Launcher has issues on it.
I'm intrigued by HyperSensation, but am not too keen on the theming styles for it.
I have experience with Cyanogen, but again, it's just the base that most people work from. Not the best necessarily, but stable and reliable.
Does anyone have any recommendations, thoughts, or advice, regarding a ROM that may suit my interests, or thoughts to persuade or dissuade me from my current three interests? I do this mostly to save time - I work in Retail at the moment, and being the Christmas season, I have little time to be fiddling around every night installing a different ROM.
Last, but not least. If I do find myself having to install different ROM's repeatedly, what's the best way to backup and restore my essential data between wipes? Can Titanium Free do everything I need?
Many thanks again, ladies, gentlemen, and newly self aware mechanical constructs!

I'd love to recommend one of the Sense ROMs but you said you are done with them. Perhaps a half-way point is to install one and then "de-sense" it. You get some of the better parts of things but have a lighter look and feel. In the dev section there are a number of ways to lighten the ROMs or you could just start flashing things like crazy Sense or not and see what sticks. I have two HTC Sensation 4Gs thanks to a mistake with tmobile so one runs CM7 alpha 10 and the other is now running InsertCoin (today). I've pretty much given in to the fact that the very first app I install is titanium backup and then I restore my apps. I also do nandroid backups very often so I have a known place to get back to.
My advice fwiw. Just start flashing, testing, removing, re-installing. Just go crazy with the new Sense ROMs and CM7. Something will stick unless you are like some of the rest of us and just want to flash things at some regular pace
I do like some of the Sense ROMs though. The Energy Sense ROM is very nice and I like Insert Coin and ARHD quite a bit. CM7 wins me over though and I still have a G2/Vision phone which has a CM7 nightly on it which I swap the simcard to every so often because I like that phone too.
Give 'em all a try and then come back in some days or a week. Then all of the developers will release new stuff. Its an agonizing circle of downloading, reading, fixing, wishing.
And I enjoy every minute of it.

I suppose my next question would be, what is the limit to which I can Mod an existing ROM.
Say for instance I wanted to use basic CM7 or Reverted's Mod, but install Amaze Cam, a new SMS Mod, and an ICS theme on top of that.
Is that possible? Or would it change the ROM / make it unusable?

I highly suggest Coredroid 2.7 That's what i have and it has the looks that no other rom has.. it's fast and isn't overloaded.. It's a beauty.. Atleast go look at it =D http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195902

I don't believe you can have the Amaze Cam without Sense and it's worth noting that CM7 on Sensation is reported to have some camera issues (which can perhaps be eased with different cam mods/apps). I can't verify this, although I use CM7 and like it very much, I've never once used the camera, it's simply not one of the features I really need on my handheld.
If you want "the most toys" but without the sense bloat, you are probably best getting one of the Sense based ROMs that has a lot of the sense interface removed. ARHD is highly used and comes well recommended, so you could try that.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 and look for post #4 for the de-sensed version.

Is it possible to theme Sense-based ROM's to look like ICS at all?
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19451428
Is there any reason that Theme from Desire wouldn't work on Sensation?

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I don't believe you can have the Amaze Cam without Sense and it's worth noting that CM7 on Sensation is reported to have some camera issues (which can perhaps be eased with different cam mods/apps). I can't verify this, although I use CM7 and like it very much, I've never once used the camera, it's simply not one of the features I really need on my handheld.
If you want "the most toys" but without the sense bloat, you are probably best getting one of the Sense based ROMs that has a lot of the sense interface removed. ARHD is highly used and comes well recommended, so you could try that.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 and look for post #4 for the de-sensed version.
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I would echo the ARHD recommendation. You can kill of Sense if you like, but it is pretty clean even with it.
- Computerslayer

I jump back and forth between ARHD, InsertCoin and P3D, though less of that last one lately. They're all Sense-based, but you can rid yourself of many Sense things by just using a custom Launcher, like GoLauncher. That way you can still have a functional camera (likely an issue, I hear, in CM7), and keep the lock screen.
Also, I know you said Titanium Backup Free would do the job, but if you do fork over the $6 for the premium version, all the restore installs are silent... that is, you don't need to click "INSTALL" and "DONE" for each one. The apps and their data are installed in the background. It's the best $6 I've ever spent on an app.

Hm Reverted or any of the other CM-based builds sound like what you're looking for except for the camera part since they all use the ****ty aosp camera.
Miui is pretty solid, but Scott and TD are still working on porting the miui cam. But until then, it also has the ****ty aosp cam. But until ics becomes reality for us, this is what I'm waiting for.
In the meantime, I desensed AHRD with this script and it's actually pretty decent. Plus you get to keep the lockscreen and sense cam. If you really wanted an ics look, you could replace the included Launcher Pro with ICS Launcher. Don't get confused with the term "desense" though. Sense is still there. Scripts like these just get rid of Rosie and delete all of the HTC widgets and extras.

Total Disappointment

I got to say that even with all of the great development here this phone has been overly disappointing..
This is my Wife's phone I use an SGS II. I was going to keep it stock but she was complaining about it locking up occasionally and poor battery life. So i rooted and have had her try out several roms of several flavors, sense 3.0 and 3.5 gingerbread of all sorts, and different kernels and all.. It seems no matter the combo the general use of the device seem sluggish at times.
Her biggest complaint is how sometimes she needs to pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days.
I at first thought it was the set up but after so many mixes of different things i checked that off, then i thought it was an app but i had her go for a few days without installing anything and it eventually still happened..
I have decided it either the device just plain sucks or its the sense garbage clogging it up..
Any good ASOP rom recommendations?
Or any recommendations at all? Maybe someone else who had had issues with this device and who has found happiness could point me in a good rom kernel combo for this POS...
Sorry had to vent.. and any help would be great..

No problems whatsoever on the ROM I'm running. Did you make sure to superwipe in between each ROM flash?

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No problems whatsoever on the ROM I'm running. Did you make sure to superwipe in between each ROM flash?
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Yes Superwipe is my friend. Honestly It could just be that this device is just not as good as her G2 which she now wants to go back to lmao.. but whatever..

PJcastaldo said:
I got to say that even with all of the great development here this phone has been overly disappointing..
This is my Wife's phone I use an SGS II. I was going to keep it stock but she was complaining about it locking up occasionally and poor battery life. So i rooted and have had her try out several roms of several flavors, sense 3.0 and 3.5 gingerbread of all sorts, and different kernels and all.. It seems no matter the combo the general use of the device seem sluggish at times.
Her biggest complaint is how sometimes she needs to pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days.
I at first thought it was the set up but after so many mixes of different things i checked that off, then i thought it was an app but i had her go for a few days without installing anything and it eventually still happened..
I have decided it either the device just plain sucks or its the sense garbage clogging it up..
Any good ASOP rom recommendations?
Or any recommendations at all? Maybe someone else who had had issues with this device and who has found happiness could point me in a good rom kernel combo for this POS...
Sorry had to vent.. and any help would be great..
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No one else seams to have these problems i get no lag what so ever but if your looking for a good AOSP Gingerbread ROM have you tried Cyanogen Mod 7????? or eve MIUI as far as ICS ROM i like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408351

have you tried swapping/formatting your SD card?
other than that, it sounds like you've tried everything...you may just have a bung handset...your problems are not common

I was having some of the same problems. No matter what Rom/kernel combo I had there were bugs. I went back to stock and voila... Smooth as butter. I guess the updates tmo released really fixed all of the problems I had when I first purchased the sensation. I suggest you try it out.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

I have been using sensation for 4+ months now. Yes the stock ROM is buggy but definitely not as bad as you are experiencing. I rooted and install custom ROM after one week stock ROM usage. May be you can try by 1) factory reset if not fixed then 2) format or new memory card.
All Gingerbread based ROM's are pretty good in terms of feature, performance and stability. For starters you can try insertcoin or android revolution HD. I would not recommend ICS based ROM since they are still work in progress kind of mode. Though most of the things will work with ICS ROM, looking at your frustrating experience I would recommend only GB based ROMs.
All The Best!

Faulty handset.
Get it replaced/fixed.

Never have I experienced any of these issues with my Sensation.
I use ARHD 3.6.x since day 1 and it's still as smooth as butter.
I use Daemon controller to take the CPU down to 1GHz.
I have many many apps installed and have nearly filled the internal memory with a few apps on the SD too.
I have removed a few system apps using root. What accounts are you using on the device? I have heard that a sense account can be a bit of a drain on battery and resources.
Phil

sromer said:
Faulty handset.
Get it replaced/fixed.
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I'd agree.
All of symptoms "pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days. " are VERY similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238
There was another link 150+ pages relating to it but can't that one. Anyway, get it replaced.

I think because her nails are long

I had a lot of sluggishness with stock but now I'm using MIUI and it's really smooth and is better on batt life w/o all that stock bloat nonsense. I don't know why I waited so long to root. Every now and then I have issues pulling the status bar but I figure it's just my finger placement or another app is running a task and hogging the CPU for a sec.
Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

AngrySalad said:
I had a lot of sluggishness with stock but now I'm using MIUI and it's really smooth and is better on batt life w/o all that stock bloat nonsense. I don't know why I waited so long to root. Every now and then I have issues pulling the status bar but I figure it's just my finger placement or another app is running a task and hogging the CPU for a sec.
Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
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Honestly though with a dual core device you should be able to pull the notification bar down at will.. at least my SGS II has never done this..
bomczz said:
I think because her nails are long
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LMAO I actually thought this at first.. but it did it to be too.
animaleyes76 said:
I'd agree.
All of symptoms "pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days. " are VERY similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238
There was another link 150+ pages relating to it but can't that one. Anyway, get it replaced.
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This maybe a possibility that she has a faulty touchscreen making it seem to be laggy when infact its not..
Thank you guys for so many responses im going to have her try an ASOP rom like CM7 and see if it helps if not maybe ill get it replaced..

My sensation is sluggish on the stock rom. It operates very smooth on cm7 alpha #10 and the latest miui which i am sporting at the moment. Do u use titanium backup at all in her phone. Ive read some shiz bout TB.
Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using XDA App

I got the same problem. Takes couple tries to unlock the phone, some on-screen keyboard keys are not responding, notification bar not coming down. It was very annoying and frustrating. But all the problems are gone once I installed CM7/MIUI.

DDeveryday said:
I got the same problem. Takes couple tries to unlock the phone, some on-screen keyboard keys are not responding, notification bar not coming down. It was very annoying and frustrating. But all the problems are gone once I installed CM7/MIUI.
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Well shes not home from work yet and im going to class tonight, but I will be putting her on CM7 especially after reading your comment.

I think your phone (hardware) is defected. Get a replacement. I run many of the custom ROM for the past few months and none of them have the problem you described. Good luck.

sumasage said:
I think your phone (hardware) is defected. Get a replacement. I run many of the custom ROM for the past few months and none of them have the problem you described. Good luck.
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I really think that you guys are just used to a less than smooth experience. and i don't mean this in a bad way. I have not only been exposed to my wife's Sensation but the weird dude upstairs Sensation >though its stock< is slow and choppy and has horrible battery life as well.. just saying its bad when when you take her G2 running a sense 3.0 rom and put it next to the Sensation running a similar rom and the older device is running it better..
OK, So after trying out the CM7 build and now Hypersensation I am going to say even without waiting <but the next few days will tell> sense is what really hinders this phones performance. Totally 1000% more responsive than ANY Sense rom i have had on this device.. still not up to par where i feel it should be but much nicer..

Ok if shes still in cm7 just leave it dont overclock it. Give it a few charges to settle. Everything should work smooth except the video camera. Glad i could help u.
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I really think that you guys are just used to a less than smooth experience. and i don't mean this in a bad way. I have not only been exposed to my wife's Sensation but the weird dude upstairs Sensation >though its stock< is slow and choppy and has horrible battery life as well.. just saying its bad when when you take her G2 running a sense 3.0 rom and put it next to the Sensation running a similar rom and the older device is running it better..
OK, So after trying out the CM7 build and now Hypersensation I am going to say even without waiting <but the next few days will tell> sense is what really hinders this phones performance. Totally 1000% more responsive than ANY Sense rom i have had on this device.. still not up to par where i feel it should be but much nicer..
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Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using XDA App

If she doesnt like cm7 give the latest miui a go. Everything works great. Only bug ive noticed is the wifi likes to turn on by itself once in awhile so keep an eye on it if u try miui. Ive came over from a nexus s and comparing both phones id say the sensation is a hair better plus the build quality is much much better.
Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using XDA App

how do you choose a rom?

I am starting to understand why...but there are so many options...
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

First of all you have to try all roms and then go for the best one and the one who fits better to you... I can't say how to do it... Everyone is different
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

all rom's on xda are cool!¨

One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher

I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.

there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)

Well here are some preferences of mine...Perhaps you can narrow down three or four first choices.
Well I would not know the difference between sense based and not right now, so probably should aim to get close to it and slowly experiment outwards...
I want completely stable, the xe is fast enough so don't need faster (for now) but I do want themes capability. I like a very personalized interface. And ideally would rather make my own, but doubt I could without software for that like I had on my K77i.
I don't particularly care about popular, but I suppose popular does indicate stability and or other major benefits. I would not risk a new ROM I think.
I use mine, for everything, much more than calls and texts, and would use it to read a lot. So in that sense I do need low power consumption. Movies mostly at night with lowest brightness, but some times videos during the day too, such as exercise programs...
I hope not to catch a romming bug, I have had the phone only a few days and it's still not got all I want organized into it...It takes a lot of effort to set thing up right, at least for me, so I don't want to do that every couple of weeks...Mind you when I have the apps I want and calendar set up and what not I suppose that won't be so hard.

Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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if you're going for the ics aosp feel then you should try both hypernonsense and virtuous inquisition and then decide which one you want to keep
as someone already stated - you should ask yourself what do you really need and it should be easy then...
for instance i need a stable room,ics looks,everything working and as few system apps as possible(only those which are required for a rom to function properly),no live wallpapers,no unnecesary ringtones and simillar so i chose hypernonsense

cocoman93 said:
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
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HyperNonSense is everything Virtuous Inquisition is, but without all of the glitches and with significantly increased speed and fluidity.

Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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So the actual CM9 builds aren't doing it for ya are they?

When choosing a ROM I typically look at the bug list first to see if there are any show stoppers then its on to the comments posted to see what the general consensus of the ROM is.
Really though, I do a lot of sampling to get a feel for what ROMs I like best and narrow it down to just a few then flash between them depending on mood really and whether or not I feel like running AOSP or Sense based.

It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?

8thsiner said:
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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This guide is one of the best ones I've seen (it is specific for arhd but steps are basically the same for all roms with ics base):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
It.is scary at first bit once you do it once it becomes a lot easier. Just take your time the first time, double check you've got the correct files, and then take a deep breath. LOTS of people have done it and I'm sure you'll be just fine.
-- Zeustopher
from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

Apparently that is a very god guide, flashed with success, though I am having troubles with it, not aside from the fact that Titanium has been giving me issue hanging lots on certain installs, and now certain games crash upon loading past the main screen. and other games I now have touch issues, randomly it seems as it seems to freeze control for a few seconds.
ANd I am right in understanding now that my firmware is upto date I ca flash any ICS based rom?
I think it was the firmware issue that I missed in the hypernonsense rom thread, and that is why it banjaxed things to bits...
I am still looking at other roms bbig time like, I want go launcher as my base and I think the ICS base takes up far far too much space, I am getting lag with ARHD and not even all of my things are back in place.
The other issue I have is now I need to clean up my phone, 16gb card and I have barely 2gb left for all the different back ups...I only have 4gb or so in my documents folder which is where I keep nearly everything from pictures, music, videos and ebooks etc...
I think it will be easy enough to clean up some things, But for those apps that persistently bother me, Is there a good clean up tool, for destroying apps, plus data???Preferably a super user app with batch automation???

Zeustopher said:
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
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Thank you for the detailed info. I appreciate it. Helped me understand things a little bit better, since I am new to all this.:good:

Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?

wjdijkstra said:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
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Wow you are spot on!
I thought of recommending you cm10.1 kang or something.. But the good camera won't be a pass in this (hands down sense 3.6 camera is the best).. So your choice is perfect except you'll miss the latest version of android (jellybean)
Btw you should use sultans sense kernel as hyper non sense is still sense based but 99% sense stuff removed
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