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Hello guys.
As the topic states, I'm trying to help my friend get the best user experience with the Sensation.
I myself, use a Galaxy S II, and have been using this + Galaxy S I for like 10 months now.
But this guy came to me to show off his brand new Sensation - I tried it - and I thought it TOTALLY sucked!? The UI is really slow and sluggish, not much different from a HTC Hero lol (ok well not that bad, but compared to my CM7nized Galaxy, it looks like a failed toy)
I was really disappointed for him, and I promised I'd find him the best ROM/kernel combination out there.
I thought it was a simply matter of bloatware and bad optimization at HTC's part. So I flashed LeeDroid onto his device, it got a bit better, but animations aren't as fluent as I'd like them. I can even discern the frames per second by eye.. (almost)
Is overclocking the only answer? I saw some kernels which support 1.89GHz, but since I have no knowledge of HTC, I wouldn't dare try.
Questions:
*What's the fastest ROM out there?
*What's making the Sensation so slow compared to Galaxy S II and iPhone 4? You'd think a dual core would run any version of Android easily.
*Do I have to overclock to make the Sensation lag-free?
*Why are there no AOSP roms yet? Is there something preventing this?
*Is his device maybe faulty?
I appreciate your answers.
And please, I didn't come here to troll or flame. Just trying to help my friend, so lets keep it civilized and no Android Phone-rivalry hate
dyallo said:
Hello guys.
As the topic states, I'm trying to help my friend get the best user experience with the Sensation.
I myself, use a Galaxy S II, and have been using this + Galaxy S I for like 10 months now.
But this guy came to me to show off his brand new Sensation - I tried it - and I thought it TOTALLY sucked!? The UI is really slow and sluggish, not much different from a HTC Hero lol (ok well not that bad, but compared to my CM7nized Galaxy, it looks like a failed toy)
I was really disappointed for him, and I promised I'd find him the best ROM/kernel combination out there.
I thought it was a simply matter of bloatware and bad optimization at HTC's part. So I flashed LeeDroid onto his device, it got a bit better, but animations aren't as fluent as I'd like them. I can even discern the frames per second by eye.. (almost)
Is overclocking the only answer? I saw some kernels which support 1.89GHz, but since I have no knowledge of HTC, I wouldn't dare try.
Questions:
*What's the fastest ROM out there?
*What's making the Sensation so slow compared to Galaxy S II and iPhone 4? You'd think a dual core would run any version of Android easily.
*Do I have to overclock to make the Sensation lag-free?
*Why are there no AOSP roms yet? Is there something preventing this?
*Is his device maybe faulty?
I appreciate your answers.
And please, I didn't come here to troll or flame. Just trying to help my friend, so lets keep it civilized and no Android Phone-rivalry hate
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Keep well in mind that YOUR phone has been out MUCH MUCH longer than our Sensations. Also, we JUST got S-OFF recently which leaves very little time to have been developing.
Also, from what I understand, android is not utilizing the sensations dual cores properly, yet. That, along with Sense 3.0, and the lack of hardware acceleration all come together for a less than wow effect. However, with ADW EX (paid) my phone is faster than I can discern. That, and the fact that I froze Sense along with a lot of other stuff with Titanium after I rooted.
Give it time, you will see the Sensation really begin to fly. CM7 is due any day now for us as well...After thats all taken care of, have a look at the sharp look of the Sensation! Its got the looks on the outside right now, and soon someone will give it the looks it can have on the inside. HTC rushed this phone and designed it to appeal to the masses.
Id bet that the phone with ADW EX and Sense 3.0 frozen would look as fast as yours. It may not hang in there, yet, with the benchmarks but your daily use would likely seem to be just as fast. Oh and that is with my stock ROM and no overclock.
Matt
I purchased an SGII and was really impressed with the camera.....
and that was all.....
Sold it on ebay 2 days after purchase!
Cheap plastic.....
And if it's that good, why put CM7 on it? It shouldn't need improving should it?
using stock kernel + rom i have 0 lag and phone is amazing...
just used adb method to pause all applications not being used/bloatware
but you could also just delete unused apks with root explorer or whatever you may have since ur already s-off with root
(suggest backing up if you have any problems u can restore apk :| )
kurtish said:
I purchased an SGII and was really impressed with the camera.....
and that was all.....
Sold it on ebay 2 days after purchase!
Cheap plastic.....
And if it's that good, why put CM7 on it? It shouldn't need improving should it?
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'Cause it's been a while since I ran Cyanogenmod, and I wanted to try the latest nightly.
Normally, I use VillainROM which is based on Samsungs sources, but with bloatware removed and deodex/zipaligned apks which is almost just as fast.
Thanks though, I'll forward your tips on freezing all Sense apks and run ADW Launcher EX instead (incidently, this is the launcher I use on my own phone and yes, i love it too.)
But no ROM or Kernel recommendations? Aww, I went through all this S-Off crap for nothing?
Give a dog a bone
Try any 2.3.4 ROM (I'm using InsertCoin). The phone will be much faster
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idavid_ said:
Try any 2.3.4 ROM (I'm using InsertCoin). The phone will be much faster
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Thanks, alot of people seem to be recommending InsertCoin
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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rickyjune said:
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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I believe with Titanium Backup or something similar.
rickyjune said:
How do u freeze HTC Sense
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Titanium Backup Pro. I'm not sure what all exactly you need to freeze, but I'm sure anything with "Sense" in it you'd want to freeze.
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How do u freeze HTC Sense
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Delete rosie.apk or freeze it. I delete mine. I use adw ex anyway and its faster than sense
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dyallo said:
Thanks, alot of people seem to be recommending InsertCoin
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I use LeeDroid. Constant updates and tweaks.
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Try Android Revolution HD 2.1.0, I just flashed this last night. Really impressed. Loads faster and still using the stock kernel for 2.3.4
Custom kernel's are on there way for this rom too which should make it fly.
Btw, does your friend have/had the newest 2.3.4 OTA? It improves speed as well
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
2.3.4 version of the custom rom i am using has definitely made a big speed improvement over 2.3.3
He is on LeeDroid rom now, I believe its 2.3.4 based! Right??
yeah it is based on 2.3.4
lol, yet another Galaxy troller
PLEASEEEE use the P3D Neon V4 ROM and use the kernel it comes with. Honestly, it's the best ROM I have used on the Sensation. Flash that, look at the UI and it'll make you wish you could have Sense 3.0 on your GalaxyS2. Make sure you also flash the 4.1 update on top!
It's smooth, has good battery life, and has a sexy theme with a lot of eye-candy that doesn't slow the phone down. If you don't believe me, please flash it and report back with what your friend says. Don't report back with what you thought of it, just what he thought because I don't wanna read a biased post lol.
Also, when we finally get CM7, the speed will be on-par with any other dualcore device.
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I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
EddyOS said:
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
gustav30 said:
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
leyus said:
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
MartijnGP said:
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
[email protected]$oLiD said:
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.
csd181 said:
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.
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And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.
leyus said:
Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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csd181 said:
Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)
mzmo said:
What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
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lorddart said:
Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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leyus said:
I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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Hi Guys.
I have my Sensation coming tomorow, what are the things i should know, from you experiences of this from the moment you get it out the box.
Thanks in advance
Oliver
Common issues include:
Horrid battery life due to phone not properly sleeping (can be fixed by flashing another rom)
Dust underneath the screen
Two different displays, one is cooler and one is warmer.
Phone seemingly to suddenly die, battery goes out and phone refuses to turn on.
Heat, plenty of it when using the phone actively for 15 or 20 minutes.
Now I don't want to scare you, I've never experienced any of these issues aside from the heat thing (which doesn't hurt the phone). But I feel you should be unbiasedly prepared.
Good things:
Speedy, I recommend Android Revolution HD 3.x until ICS is stable.
Sharp display, qHD resolution makes a huge difference.
AOSP and Sense roms available.
Rooting is easy and with any HTC, clockworkmod is permanently installed. No loopholes or exploits just to get to it - unlike my sister's Sidekick 4G or father's DEFY.
Great mobile data speeds
And of course, it's the true first Beats phone if you flash an XE rom (Im looking at you, Verizon and Rezound.)
It's a great phone, and stable ICS is just around the corner.
Hi. I consider buying this phone as well. mattbutsko, thanks for sharing your impressions on the device.
I have to say that sometimes I visit the Sensation thread just to read some news/ information. I remember that some users have complained about the 3.5mm jack (the paint on the edge wears off which creates connectivity issues with the headset). Other users have issues with the responsiveness of the display; the quality of the power button; the quality of the back housing panel (The 'HTC' logo on the back falling off); etc.
IMO the Sensation is a great phone and I am a little surprised of all that user complaints. Currently I have the Wildfire S and I am stunned by the Sense interface and all. At the same time I don't experience any problems with the hardware or the build quality. Still, I feel it's time to move onto the next level and to give my WfS to my girlfriend or my sister (we'll see ) as a present. But I don't want to regret switching my phone afterwards...
So what would you advise me? What do I have to check to be sure as much as possible that I'm not buying a "faulty" unit - when buying the phone? Thanks again!
Cheers, i'll probably wait a couple of weeks before rooting etc to make sure everything is alright with the phone, but after that i would imagine i'll put an ics rom on. i'll see how it goes... Thanks =D
Hi!
I have the XE about a week now and everything is great so far. None of these problems exist, not even the overheating(which I was warned that in the first two charges would be intense) . I'm really happy with it ( but as I said I own it about a week now so ... )
What does annoy me though is the WiFi deathgrip... But I think that's solvable with a case
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I got my Sensation about two months ago and I would never change it due to a few "problems" that could occur... Came from a Wildfire, this thing was an issue itself. Sensation is GOLD, compared to that.
Flashed different kind of ROMs, now testing Virtuous Inquisition v1.3.0 Senseless ICS (4.0.1), great ROM so far!
Never had any problems while flashing ROM or Radio/Kernel, rooting, make phone have SuperUser or CID!
best.phone.ever...of course, running ics 4.0.3
vctrdnl said:
Hi. I consider buying this phone as well. mattbutsko, thanks for sharing your impressions on the device.
I have to say that sometimes I visit the Sensation thread just to read some news/ information. I remember that some users have complained about the 3.5mm jack (the paint on the edge wears off which creates connectivity issues with the headset). Other users have issues with the responsiveness of the display; the quality of the power button; the quality of the back housing panel (The 'HTC' logo on the back falling off); etc.
IMO the Sensation is a great phone and I am a little surprised of all that user complaints. Currently I have the Wildfire S and I am stunned by the Sense interface and all. At the same time I don't experience any problems with the hardware or the build quality. Still, I feel it's time to move onto the next level and to give my WfS to my girlfriend or my sister (we'll see ) as a present. But I don't want to regret switching my phone afterwards...
So what would you advise me? What do I have to check to be sure as much as possible that I'm not buying a "faulty" unit - when buying the phone? Thanks again!
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I would say to go for it. for all the users that have the major issues, a far greater number don't. This phone's great now, but ICS will make it even better, like, substantially better.
Horrid battery life due to phone not properly sleeping (can be fixed by flashing another rom)
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I'm new to Sensation's as well, can someone care to explain this problem? What exactly is the problem with it? Do all default phones come with this problem or does it depend on what ROM is pre-installed on it? And what ROM versions fix it?
dexter93 said:
Hi!
I have the XE about a week now and everything is great so far. None of these problems exist, not even the overheating(which I was warned that in the first two charges would be intense) . I'm really happy with it ( but as I said I own it about a week now so ... )
What does annoy me though is the WiFi deathgrip... But I think that's solvable with a case
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This is also my experience so far with my XE, I don't see how a case will help with death grip though.
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aLlamaWithARifle said:
I'm new to Sensation's as well, can someone care to explain this problem? What exactly is the problem with it? Do all default phones come with this problem or does it depend on what ROM is pre-installed on it? And what ROM versions fix it?
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Well there are three states your phone can be in. Screen on and in use, screen off and in use, and screen off and sleeping. There's a problem that can arise where the phone doesn't go into sleep mode and continues to run "awake". This drains battery quickly. Good news, it doesn't happen to everyone and most roms don't suffer from it (although my stock rom did - Sensation 4G TMO here). Someone tried to say it was a hardware issue some time back but I'm pretty sure that's flat out wrong.
I've only had it for a few Weeks now but I love it. I only had it a week before I rooted it, very easy to do. I was using the stock Tmobile updated rom and everything worked very well. I have it in a case and haven't noticed any dust under the screen, but I also haven't been looking for it. I also haven't noticed the wifi grip issue.
As for rooting and roms, ether are many to choose from, sense 3.0 or 3.5, cm7, and now I've betas. I'd hope within the next few months we will see an official ics released.
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We got 2 in the family and we haven't experienced any of the mentioned faults in our phones. I got mine in early June, it's rooted and I run LeeDroid SuperSensational 4.2.1 on it and its really superfast. My husband's got the other one about 3 month ago, it runs stock and that one also works perfectely!
Thanks for all this guys!
But i am now getting rid of my sensation... i know ive only had it under a week.
Anyway the reason for this is tablets... i wanted to get one, but it would mean my phone was more pwerful than my tablet, which to me at least seems odd. so anyway im getting a galaxy not as a compromise between the both.
Thanks for all your help!
Well, can't say as I understand your reasoning, I don't really see how a tablet can replace a phone or vice versa, but glad you're happy with your decision.
A few weeks ago I received the ICS update per my HTC. It's brand Vodafone, so with a lot of useless things, but it works very well (some delay sometimes).
If I mod my Sensation with some custom roms, will it be more stable, fast and other things like that or the improvements would be useless?
Thanks!
Will be faster, with less (well, none) Voda crapware.
It changed my life ^^
No seriously when you start to flash rom it's dangerous because you can become addicted to that and you'll start to flash every rom to find the fastest rom.
If you don't want to try all them:
-ARHD if you like sense interface,or CM9.
Bottom line - it will be better than stock
Should you mod? In short, yes.
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In nearly every case, with all the Android phones I've owned, modding them with a custom ROM has made them better. What you mode with will depend on what you want. Lots of ROMs have one version or another of Sense. One of the really good ones is RevolutionHD, which I used for some time. Fast, responsive, great battery life, no chuff.
However, after I while I realized that I want to go back to the minimalist approach, so I returned to Cyanogenmod, without Sense (Sense is pretty, but a major resource hog, IMHO). You could go with the "pure" CM9 nightlies which are rock stable. Or you could look at OpenSensation, which is built on CM9 but has a few tweaks not yet merged into the nightly builds yet. Also rock solid and stable.
Make sure, whichever way you go, to follow the modding instructions for the ROM, since they vary from one dev/builder to another. The Development topic has all the different ROM threads and all the guidance you need.
Definitely yes.
I got a custom ROM because ICS hasn't been released in my location yet, but when I got a custom GB ROM I noticed how much faster and stable it was. And now there's no way I'm ever going back to stock.
I'm using Android Revolution HD 6.6.7 now.
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Garciimore said:
It changed my life ^^
No seriously when you start to flash rom it's dangerous because you can become addicted to that and you'll start to flash every rom to find the fastest rom.
If you don't want to try all them:
-ARHD if you like sense interface,or CM9.
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I flashed already a lot of rom on my LG P500
But a device like that, with a custom rom, become another phone.
The sensation is already a high performance phone (not like the Galaxy S3, but...), that's why I asked, and i've already got the answers
BTW, I don't want to try all the rom on earth CM9 is cool, i like the style of the lockscreen. Anoter rom with sense 4.0?
joe.attaboy said:
In nearly every case, with all the Android phones I've owned, modding them with a custom ROM has made them better. What you mode with will depend on what you want. Lots of ROMs have one version or another of Sense. One of the really good ones is RevolutionHD, which I used for some time. Fast, responsive, great battery life, no chuff.
However, after I while I realized that I want to go back to the minimalist approach, so I returned to Cyanogenmod, without Sense (Sense is pretty, but a major resource hog, IMHO). You could go with the "pure" CM9 nightlies which are rock stable. Or you could look at OpenSensation, which is built on CM9 but has a few tweaks not yet merged into the nightly builds yet. Also rock solid and stable.
Make sure, whichever way you go, to follow the modding instructions for the ROM, since they vary from one dev/builder to another. The Development topic has all the different ROM threads and all the guidance you need.
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Thanks! I'll try one of these..
It will be a lot faster, the battery life will increase, more responsive and I like the GUI for stock ICS better than sense. Also, you will have better drivers (hopefully) so it's performance in games will increase.
Do it if you're confident enough to to reap the benefits mentioned above.
If you're not confident then leave it.
YES! You will LOVE it! It's so wonderful to have so Many choices of different Roms! I love trying new ones out but I seem to always come back to my favorite ! Try out the Roms and find your favorite! It is so much more stable then stock. You will be surprised! No force closes, or shutdowns like with stock! It's also very addicting , you will be like, what do I want to try today! Rooting is truely freeing yourself. You will finally have the ability to make your device your own! It's awesome! If there is something you don't like, you just change it! I can honestly say, I don't regret rooting for a second! You will LOVE it! Best of luck.
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I'll do it tonight! I read something but I have to find a guide to S-OFF for ICS. I saw a method with a manual trick with a copper wire but i don't know if it reliable!
Just that way is reliable, and if you're on ICS it's the only way to get S-OFF.
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I'll do it tonight! I read something but I have to find a guide to S-OFF for ICS. I saw a method with a manual trick with a copper wire but i don't know if it reliable!
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Juponutbear ?
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Juponutbear ?
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Yes!
I know it works, but i hope i won't fry my phone
You'll only fry your phone if the bit of wire you're using is connected to the mains
Don't use the copper wire trick. Use thishttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631.
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Hey.
S Off for Hboot 1.2x is tedious, but not difficult.
However, to make things a little easy, here is the tool that I made: http://tinyurl.com/KGSTool
It's pretty simple to use, look it up.
Thanks for all the tips, I've already done it with the wire trick!
Now i have install a recovery (4EXTRecovery is the best, right?), obtain root and superCID, right? In this order?