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[Q] How distinguish HTC Sensation 4G from HTC Sensation?

Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have a HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.

piratashitzu said:
Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have an HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.
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Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
Matt

Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."

mrg02d said:
Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
Matt
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idavid_ said:
Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
Rod3 said:
As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."
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Thank you Rod3, so the only difference is the T-Mobile (or Bell) logo in the right side, just below speaker? Because there are some sites talking sensation is 3G dual band, and 4G is 3G triband. This all based on this comparation.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3922&idPhone2=3875
look at both 3G network line, 4G additional 1700 Mhz capable. This is right?
Maybe it has a sign in the battery like HTC HD2. Can u tell me if your sensatio battery has the model of phone type printed?
Once again thanks.

piratashitzu said:
Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
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I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Edit: I just found pics of Bell version, and yes, it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

idavid_ said:
I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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You are correct. Just the HTC logo under the speaker.

Done.
T-Mobile 4g model bought.
Everything is ok. Actualy no real difference from sensation unbranded (technical specs), just only the T-Mo logo.
Thanks you all.
See you on Sensations subforum.
p.s. Time to read a lot about starting rooting, s-off , mods, roms and other things about this beauty.

There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
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moto211 said:
There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App
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Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

idavid_ said:
Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?

moto211 said:
Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?
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Bell and tmobile are different bands.
The bell version has support for 850/1900 wcdma.

idavid_ said:
Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).

nornore said:
Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).
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I meant that Sensation 4G and unbranded Sensation have the same bands. The Bell version has different bands from both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

[Q] How to get onto AT&T's HSPA network?

Hello,
I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.
On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.
I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?

You need 850 and 1900 UMTS bands.
There are two Sensations. The Z710e and Z710a. You have the e and you need the a.

kamikazees said:
Hello,
I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.
On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.
I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?
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I'm afraid you have the wrong sensation. Like the post above said, you need the Telstra\Bell\Virgin mobile sensation which is z710a

Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.

kamikazees said:
Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.
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You need to get European version.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

No! European, T-mobile and Asian version wont work with at&t 3G. You need to get the z710a sensation

[Q] no 3G Sensation/ATT

Hi all, im very new to XDA & have no knowledge of bandwidths. I just recently bought a HTC Sensation (not sure what model, but it was from a local guy). Had it unlocked so i can use it with my ATT plan. every thing was working fine except i had no data & couldnt send/recieve MMS. When first turned on, there was no APN settings on the phone, so i applied the settings stated in the thread APN settings for unlocked Sensation on ATT by mekajt7 on 09/05/11. Now i have data & MMS is working fine execpt my data is only 2G??
If there's anyone out there with more extensive knowledge regarding this topic, or how to get my phone to pick up 3G?? pleeeeeese leave a reply.
ive spent hours online reading about the bandwidths & ive been getting mixed results.... some said yes, it should work & most said no.
I'm in need of some answers
thanks for reading

the only way an sensation can pick up att 3g signals is if you buy one from canada made for their bell carrier. other then that all you can get is edge. if you want 3g or even better, 4g and be in the usa, you need tmobile

thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??

DMX804 said:
thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??
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The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.

tpbklake said:
The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.
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so, T-Mo's is neither of these?? or is it the Z710e??
im just trying to get the model's correctly identified
thanks for the reply

T-mo is the same as european and asian version, it wont work with at&t 3G which is probably what you have. You need to get the canadian sensation from bell or virgin mobile model number z710a. If you look at settings>>about phone>>phone identity, the model number of your phone should be there. If it is z710e, then you are out of luck.

So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?

sjespers said:
So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?
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Yes the Canadian version can use AT&T 3G and HSPA+ network.

Changing region UK to Canada

Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou

Jas_932 said:
Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou
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have you tried a canadian sim? your phone may already be unlocked...did you 'buy' it or did it come with a plan?
to unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
what bands do they use in canada? in the uk?
the sensation comes with
3G 900/2100
OR
3G 850/1900/2100
you need to find out which one you have, and then go with the telephone company that supports it
sorry, i don't know how to find out what you have, i'm sure other people do though

Hey man, thanks for the reply, i found out the in Canada, it is 3G 850/1900 MHz them two bands for 3G which i am not too bothered about, i would just rather keep my phone instead of having to buy a new one altogether. I got my unlock code from the guide posted above which is awesome, but when ever i put in my friends Canadian simcard it just comes up with no service.. it allows me to look at his messages etc however. I will try some other carriers today and see if anything else works
I was/still am on a Vodafone Contract, which is what the phone got shipped with.
This may sound like a really nooby question, but does flashing a different radio help at all? The main carrier where i am is TELUS, so i dont know if any of these; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 would help at all?
Thanks for your help!

Your UK Vodafone 3G frequencies are 900/2100. You would therefore not get 3G there. You need to check whether Telus operate 2G at all. Bear in mind that some operators, like "3"in the UK use only 3G .
For your UK Sensation to work there, you need to find a GSM operator that uses 2G. This is you only option.

or you could purchase mobile wifi 3G (if they do that in canada) and use that to access the internet from your phone
...it's a shame, but your best bet would be to sell the sensation...you simply won't be able to access anything other than GSM in Canada
edited to add: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

International z710e works in Canada with Wind and Mobilicity. The 3G frequency of z710e is 900/AWS/2100. Wind and mobilicity operates on AWS.
For 2G connectivity, it's either Fido, Chatr, or Rogers.

You can confirm phone (850 or 900) country/carrier compatibility from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364100
I did try to post this info yesterday but seem to have completely failed to get it from the laptop to XDA.
For the Z710e it shows the following for Canada:

Thankyou so much Colin thats awesome will give it a deeper look after the weekend when im not working.
Cheers man

Jas_932 said:
Thankyou so much Colin thats awesome will give it a deeper look after the weekend when im not working.
Cheers man
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NP, hope it helps.

to find out if you have the Z710e or Z710a
goto settings>>About phone>>Phone identity. Look at the model number at the top
I believe European models are the same as Asian models which is Z710e. You can get 3G with Wind or Mobilicity networks only. I recommend Wind, they have $29 no contract with unlimited data, unlimited texts including international and unlimited calls Canada wide within wind home zone. Your phone will still work with rogers, bell, fido, kodoo etc. but only 2G

Changing region UK to Canada

Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou

Jas_932 said:
Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou
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Have a look at:
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html
You can then plug in the Country and it shows compatible carriers. In North America it appears that there are 2 separate frequencies that are used. We, in the UK and Europe all use 900Mhz (900/AWS/2100).
You'll get Voice and Edge on all the networks, however, 3G is network dependent.
You can have a look at the other phone if you're interested and if check it's UK compatibility you'll notice NO 3G!!
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html

If it's unlocked it should be OK. I brought my tmobile sensation over to the UK and I was on the 3 network just fine. You should probably look at the aws providers like wind. They have some better plans compared to the other providers.