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[Q] no 3G Sensation/ATT

Hi all, im very new to XDA & have no knowledge of bandwidths. I just recently bought a HTC Sensation (not sure what model, but it was from a local guy). Had it unlocked so i can use it with my ATT plan. every thing was working fine except i had no data & couldnt send/recieve MMS. When first turned on, there was no APN settings on the phone, so i applied the settings stated in the thread APN settings for unlocked Sensation on ATT by mekajt7 on 09/05/11. Now i have data & MMS is working fine execpt my data is only 2G??
If there's anyone out there with more extensive knowledge regarding this topic, or how to get my phone to pick up 3G?? pleeeeeese leave a reply.
ive spent hours online reading about the bandwidths & ive been getting mixed results.... some said yes, it should work & most said no.
I'm in need of some answers
thanks for reading

the only way an sensation can pick up att 3g signals is if you buy one from canada made for their bell carrier. other then that all you can get is edge. if you want 3g or even better, 4g and be in the usa, you need tmobile

thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??

DMX804 said:
thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??
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The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.

tpbklake said:
The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.
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so, T-Mo's is neither of these?? or is it the Z710e??
im just trying to get the model's correctly identified
thanks for the reply

T-mo is the same as european and asian version, it wont work with at&t 3G which is probably what you have. You need to get the canadian sensation from bell or virgin mobile model number z710a. If you look at settings>>about phone>>phone identity, the model number of your phone should be there. If it is z710e, then you are out of luck.

So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?

sjespers said:
So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?
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Yes the Canadian version can use AT&T 3G and HSPA+ network.

Changing region UK to Canada

Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou

Jas_932 said:
Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou
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have you tried a canadian sim? your phone may already be unlocked...did you 'buy' it or did it come with a plan?
to unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
what bands do they use in canada? in the uk?
the sensation comes with
3G 900/2100
OR
3G 850/1900/2100
you need to find out which one you have, and then go with the telephone company that supports it
sorry, i don't know how to find out what you have, i'm sure other people do though

Hey man, thanks for the reply, i found out the in Canada, it is 3G 850/1900 MHz them two bands for 3G which i am not too bothered about, i would just rather keep my phone instead of having to buy a new one altogether. I got my unlock code from the guide posted above which is awesome, but when ever i put in my friends Canadian simcard it just comes up with no service.. it allows me to look at his messages etc however. I will try some other carriers today and see if anything else works
I was/still am on a Vodafone Contract, which is what the phone got shipped with.
This may sound like a really nooby question, but does flashing a different radio help at all? The main carrier where i am is TELUS, so i dont know if any of these; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 would help at all?
Thanks for your help!

Your UK Vodafone 3G frequencies are 900/2100. You would therefore not get 3G there. You need to check whether Telus operate 2G at all. Bear in mind that some operators, like "3"in the UK use only 3G .
For your UK Sensation to work there, you need to find a GSM operator that uses 2G. This is you only option.

or you could purchase mobile wifi 3G (if they do that in canada) and use that to access the internet from your phone
...it's a shame, but your best bet would be to sell the sensation...you simply won't be able to access anything other than GSM in Canada
edited to add: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

International z710e works in Canada with Wind and Mobilicity. The 3G frequency of z710e is 900/AWS/2100. Wind and mobilicity operates on AWS.
For 2G connectivity, it's either Fido, Chatr, or Rogers.

You can confirm phone (850 or 900) country/carrier compatibility from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364100
I did try to post this info yesterday but seem to have completely failed to get it from the laptop to XDA.
For the Z710e it shows the following for Canada:

Thankyou so much Colin thats awesome will give it a deeper look after the weekend when im not working.
Cheers man

Jas_932 said:
Thankyou so much Colin thats awesome will give it a deeper look after the weekend when im not working.
Cheers man
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NP, hope it helps.

to find out if you have the Z710e or Z710a
goto settings>>About phone>>Phone identity. Look at the model number at the top
I believe European models are the same as Asian models which is Z710e. You can get 3G with Wind or Mobilicity networks only. I recommend Wind, they have $29 no contract with unlimited data, unlimited texts including international and unlimited calls Canada wide within wind home zone. Your phone will still work with rogers, bell, fido, kodoo etc. but only 2G

T-Mobile Radio & Canada

Hey everyone!
i Have a rooted HTC Sensation 4G (T-Mobile unlocked), which i got off ebay a while back, all is fine with it. I just decided to go back to ebay and check how the prices changed, and came across this note:
Please note; this is not the T MOBILE MODEL. This is the NORTH AMERICAN MODEL which has the 850/1900Mhz, (850/900/1800/1900) MHz) frequency. This means it will work with AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus, Virgin and Fido.
I live in Toronto, Canada, with the T-Mobile Sensation on the Rogers network. I have noticed that maps and GPS were a little slow and finding a signal was usually just a little slow in some places. Is this a result of not having the North American frequency? I mean, it hasn't bugged me at all, except for the GPS on HTC Locations. I have no idea how the radio thing works, yes, i am a noob haha.
Is there another radio i should flash? Would it be BETTER if i flashed a new one, more than it would be necessary?
I only asked because i came across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360022
Thank you!!

chc31 said:
Hey everyone!
i Have a rooted HTC Sensation 4G (T-Mobile unlocked), which i got off ebay a while back, all is fine with it. I just decided to go back to ebay and check how the prices changed, and came across this note:
Please note; this is not the T MOBILE MODEL. This is the NORTH AMERICAN MODEL which has the 850/1900Mhz, (850/900/1800/1900) MHz) frequency. This means it will work with AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus, Virgin and Fido.
I live in Toronto, Canada, with the T-Mobile Sensation on the Rogers network. I have noticed that maps and GPS were a little slow and finding a signal was usually just a little slow in some places. Is this a result of not having the North American frequency? I mean, it hasn't bugged me at all, except for the GPS on HTC Locations. I have no idea how the radio thing works, yes, i am a noob haha.
Is there another radio i should flash? Would it be BETTER if i flashed a new one, more than it would be necessary?
I only asked because i came across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360022
Thank you!!
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Hi,
If you want a good answer on the radio question,check and post questions HERE

Thankyou, didn't know that page existed!

North American Nexus 5 in Asia

Hi,
I have a north american version Nexus 5 bought in Canada. I will be travelling to Hong Kong and want to use the 4G network there
Am I able to do this or the north american verison cannot use the 4G LTE bands in Hong Kong
Is there any way to flash it or ROM it to change the bands if so?
Thanks

US version should NOT work in HK
If it is only for a short visit, you might have a look for pocket Wifi instead, Many shopping mall offer free Wifi there.
http://www.wifibb.com/en

4G of US version (D820) will not work, only 2G and 3G working.
p.s. my wife got the D820 which bought from google online when in canada, so I quite sure about that.

DummyPLUG said:
4G of US version (D820) will not work, only 2G and 3G working.
p.s. my wife got the D820 which bought from google online when in canada, so I quite sure about that.
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You are indeed correct. Everything but LTE will work just fine.

I have a similar question, but flipped a little for the D821. I want to buy my wife a Nexus 5 phone that will work in both China and Hong Kong -- preferably 4G.
What if I purchase the D821 for use in Asia that, from my research on the 4G LTE bands, will work on 4G in those two countries. Then I bring it back to the US for use. Can anyone confirm whether it will work on US GSM based networks' 4G? I'm almost positive it will not work on either T-Mobile or AT&T, but I can't find much info on any other GSM based network here in the US (which I think use AT&T or T-Mobile networks anyway).
I'd appreciate any help you can offer. I'm still doing research, but there's a good deal going on on ebay for brand new, unlocked D821s for about $375 USD -- reputable Top Seller too. So, I probably need to act fast. In the end, this will be my wife's first smartphone, and so 3G will be fast enough for her, and works perfectly fine in both US and Asia.
THANKS!

okayplay? said:
I have a similar question, but flipped a little for the D821. I want to buy my wife a Nexus 5 phone that will work in both China and Hong Kong -- preferably 4G.
What if I purchase the D821 for use in Asia that, from my research on the 4G LTE bands, will work on 4G in those two countries. Then I bring it back to the US for use. Can anyone confirm whether it will work on US GSM based networks' 4G? I'm almost positive it will not work on either T-Mobile or AT&T, but I can't find much info on any other GSM based network here in the US (which I think use AT&T or T-Mobile networks anyway).
I'd appreciate any help you can offer. I'm still doing research, but there's a good deal going on on ebay for brand new, unlocked D821s for about $375 USD -- reputable Top Seller too. So, I probably need to act fast. In the end, this will be my wife's first smartphone, and so 3G will be fast enough for her, and works perfectly fine in both US and Asia.
THANKS!
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Its the same answer, flipped.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

okayplay? said:
I have a similar question, but flipped a little for the D821. I want to buy my wife a Nexus 5 phone that will work in both China and Hong Kong -- preferably 4G.
What if I purchase the D821 for use in Asia that, from my research on the 4G LTE bands, will work on 4G in those two countries. Then I bring it back to the US for use. Can anyone confirm whether it will work on US GSM based networks' 4G? I'm almost positive it will not work on either T-Mobile or AT&T, but I can't find much info on any other GSM based network here in the US (which I think use AT&T or T-Mobile networks anyway).
I'd appreciate any help you can offer. I'm still doing research, but there's a good deal going on on ebay for brand new, unlocked D821s for about $375 USD -- reputable Top Seller too. So, I probably need to act fast. In the end, this will be my wife's first smartphone, and so 3G will be fast enough for her, and works perfectly fine in both US and Asia.
THANKS!
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3G will work, 4G will not work. Basically the N5 is a world phone except when it comes to LTE, then you need either the North American version or the rest of the world version.

Hi wondering if the european version will work in us need some advice

hi wonder if the european version of this phone will work good in us?
when looking on network specs on the uk and us page it seems they support same bands and so but the us version is a single sim and the uk one is a dual sim hope somone can give a good answer thanks in advance.
here is the links to the us and uk sites.
https://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u12-plus/buy/
https://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-u12-plus-spec/

LennartL said:
hi wonder if the european version of this phone will work good in us?
when looking on network specs on the uk and us page it seems they support same bands and so but the us version is a single sim and the uk one is a dual sim hope somone can give a good answer thanks in advance.
here is the links to the us and uk sites.
https://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u12-plus/buy/
https://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-u12-plus-spec/
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the u12+ is fully unlocked and supports all bands afaik, doesn't matter if dual or single sim. unlocked even supports the carriers and you get the same phone, just different software version. but should work fine

ok are u sure about that ? .Was talking with htc on their chat. but they didn't to make any promises if it will work in us or not. From what i have understood the uk (european) version and the us one has same network capabilities. So in theory the europé version should work on same network as the us one or do i misunderstand ?

LennartL said:
ok are u sure about that ? .Was talking with htc on their chat. but they didn't to make any promises if it will work in us or not. From what i have understood the uk (european) version and the us one has same network capabilities. So in theory the europé version should work on same network as the us one or do i misunderstand ?
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If the bands are complete the same, since it's unlocked anyways and both variants share the same bands for GSM/WCDMA etc, it should be fine. You can always buy the phone and test it and otherwise send it back
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

So since I am in the US and have a US u12+, if I RUU using the Exodus firmware, I should be safe, correct?

I go back and forth between Europe and the US, the U11 works there, the U12+ has more bands available. You won't get band 71, unless someone works out an activation hack and somehow the hardware can still use it, even if not the specific band 71 hardware.
You'll get 4G on ATT, you'll get band 12 4G on T-Mobile. If the carriers lock anything out on non-native devices, I don't know. Also the local municipalities may not have certain bands available, either. Too many variables.
A lot of the confusion comes from Samsung and other companies that uselessly institute the same practices as them- they cripple their phones so they can't be used properly on another continent. I would buy an S10, but will be stuck with Exynos and bands not fully compatible with the US, while the US gets Snapdragon, bands specific for North America, but due to the Snapdragon, has a better chance of having the missing Europe frequencies activated.
The idiots pretty much locked out the frequencies for the other continent that would give one 4G, leaving most all others the same.