Iv had the AT&T One X since the 4th and so far I love it! I haven't had any wifi issues or bootloops or anything, the only problem I'm having is the phone will randomly lose signal completely (0 bars, little x next to the signal) and wont get it back unless I put it into airplane mode and turn it back off, or reboot the phone. In the 6 days Iv had it it's lost signal 3 times, once on the road where I normally get at least 3-4 bars, and the other 2 happened at some point over night while I was asleep. Has anyone else been having this problem? Also do you think it's a software/radio problem that can be fixed in a update, or would it be hardware in which case I should take it to the store and exchange for a new one.
I've had this problem myself. Had the phone for 19 days now and I think it's happened to me 3 or 4 times.
I can guarantee it's fixable with a software update, even if the problem is hardware-related. At the very least, the software could detect the lack of signal and automatically cycle in and out of airplane mode to fix the problem without user interaction. But I'm sure whatever fix we get will be much more reliable than that.
WHEN we get the fix is another question...
Thanks for the reply. I figured it might be a software issue since you can cycle airplane mode and get it back and I don't really want to take it down to the AT&T store for an exchange in fear I wined up not able to set up gvoice or start getting wifi issues and the like lol. so far the signal drops are far and few in between making it an annoying issue rather than a critical one, and I read we've got root now so even if HTC/AT&T twiddle their thumbs and pretend nothings wrong I'm sure the community can save the day lol
I would swap it out Azure. My first HOX did exactly this, and I saw it reported elsewhere on a number of other devices. To me that says it's most likely a bad radio flash on some handsets. I suppose you could try and flash the RUU that was posted, as it most likely includes the radio as well.
I got tired of all my calls going directly to VM without ringing. And not being able to send out texts. My replacement works much better (or rather, how it should've from the beginning).
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I got tired of all my calls going directly to VM without ringing. And not being able to send out texts.
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Was this problem intermittent?
My phone has been doing this randomly, except it never went to voicemails, just hung up after like 30 seconds.
Wondering if I should switch it out also.
Had this problem for a day. Took my phone to the at&t store and they changed out the sim card and I haven't had a problem since.
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Had this problem for a day. Took my phone to the at&t store and they changed out the sim card and I haven't had a problem since.
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I never thought about the sim card being a possible problem...might run up to the store when I get the chance and swap my sim out and see if that fixes it, if not I'll just swap the device out and hope all's well
The CSR actually swapped a new micro sim first, since the one provided via online sales was an older one (most likely from the iphone 4/4s batch). It didn't seem to fix the problem though.
And yeah, the problem was very intermittent. One second it would be working fine, and the next it would show the "x". Sometimes the bars would come back immediately, other times it wouldn't until I rebooted or cycled airplane mode. Luckily it happened while I was at the store; it's much easier to convince a sales rep to swap a phone when they can witness the issue(s).
Yeah it's only happened to me twice since I got it on the 4th... it'll be very hard for me to convince them that there's an issue haha... maybe I'll head down there if it happens at a time when I'm not in class or something. I'm sure if I mention returning it/their policy I'll get a swap.
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The CSR actually swapped a new micro sim first, since the one provided via online sales was an older one (most likely from the iphone 4/4s batch). It didn't seem to fix the problem though.
And yeah, the problem was very intermittent. One second it would be working fine, and the next it would show the "x". Sometimes the bars would come back immediately, other times it wouldn't until I rebooted or cycled airplane mode. Luckily it happened while I was at the store; it's much easier to convince a sales rep to swap a phone when they can witness the issue(s).
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next time my phone drops signal I'll take it into the store and see about a sim swap in hopes that'll fix the issue if not then I'll reluctantly swap the unit out (I've grown rather attached to this one xD)
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strange...woke up today and my phone completely lost signal again, normally there's a few days between each event but this is the first time it's happened twice in a row =\
So it happened again, I'm going to go get it switched... but it says on the Mobile network section of settings, "Disconnected because service is unavailable."
There is clearly almost full signal strength, and I have never been without service where I live.
I was expereincing constant network drops all of yesterday due to an outage. However, it's back to normal for me today. So it may be possible there's an outage near you as well.
I think it is more AT&T than your phone. I was in down town buffalo at a swim meet with 5 bars of hspa+ on my blackberry bold that has a great radio. I had data but it was slow dial up slow. There were maybe 100-200 people at the meet and it was at a community college. The only other time I had this was when I was in a car that was driving by the buffalo bills stadium. Voice worked but I had no data. I guess too many people using their cell phones.
Definitely not AT&T, my SE Xperia x10 worked perfectly fine, never had any trouble with signals.
I also encounter the intermittent signal drops on my 4 days old AT&T one x.
It seems to me that the One x doesn't hold signal as good as the iphone, my 4 and 4s usually get around 2 bars in some really remote locations of the building I work. But the One X just drops signal completely. I'll see if I can do a sim swap like some others suggested.
I'm starting to think it could be an issue with lte phones because the same thing was happening to me on my galaxy note with 2 different sim cards and 2 different devices and now it's happening on my hox
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it has happened to me 3 times in 5 days. All 3 times I was either:
1. in a poor reception area and it came back on its own, i did not have to use airplane mode.
2. was using BT streaming in car and using car charger, once car charger was unplugged, signal came back.
One X has issues
Definitively problems with the phone.
I have three.
They just drop signal completely. One will work, the other will not. Only way the signal will come back is if you turn the phone on and off again. I love everything about this phone....except it isn't a very good phone.
Also, typically when I turn the phone back on, that is when I get my text messages. Nice.
Yeah I figured out it happens when I lose signal (a couple buildings on my schools campus don't get reception), and then the signal won't come back until I reboot or airplane mode.. this is after a sim swap.
Oh and do I need the box my phone came in to swap it?
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I have had this issue as well being on the Rogers (Canada) network. I started a thread as well and my theory is there may be a hardware issue reading the SIM cards.
Every now and then I get a "preparing SIM" message pop up on my screen. Also, I lost signal once and in frustration I slapped the phone into my palm VOILA! signal came back full.
This is the second One-X I've gotten from Rogers so there may be a design flaw somewhere. The problem is this behavior only pops up intermittently and cannot be recreated at will. This makes troubleshooting very difficult and practically unprovable in the eyes of providers.
Hopefully there are more reports of this problem and the carriers push back on HTC to resolve the problem.
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Ok so this has happened every night I have had the Captivate (3 nights), I go to bed at night and in the morning where my signal bar should be I have a circle with a slash through it (no network). When I go to bed I will have like 2-4 bars of service but something must happen and I lose all network functionality. I have to restart the phone which solves the problem but is a serious pain. This also happens sometimes randomly throughout the day.
Any ideas if this is a common problem with all Captivates or if it is a hardware or software issue?
I like this phone and if I can get it to work properly I love it more than my iphone but not getting service is a buzz kill and I will return it. (Bought it unsubsidized for $500 because I couldn't deal with my iphone anymore)
Note: I live in Tampa which generally has good AT&T service and have had no other problems with other phones
Did you turn off the phone and remove the sim card for a few minutes?? According to an at&t rep doing that solves network issues.
The problem I had today was that the phone showed full bars, but I couldn't send a text or make calls. I took the reps advice and it's fine for now.
Well I will give that a try tonight and see how it goes and post back tomorrow with my results. I really love everything. Else about this phone and would be a shame of I had to get rid of it because of silly antenna issues. Thanks for the advice!
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Are you sure you don't have any power saving apps on that are turning off the radio after a few hours? Did it happen when it was stock with no programs installed? Might try and flash it back to stock and see if that solves the problem.
Otherwise you could always walk into an AT&T store and ask for another one and see if it still happens.
Well last night it did the same thing after removing the sim for about 10 minutes before bed.
And as far as knowing if it did this before I rooted it.....well...I owned the phone for maybe 10 minutes after unboxing it before I rooted it. So I have no idea if it is because it is rooted. I don't have any apps on it for power saving purposes and nothing should be killing the radio. Problem is that it isn't like airport mode is on...its completely out of service and the only way to get service back is to reboot. Turning the radios on and then off again while the phone is on won't work...it must be a reboot.
I will probably end up returning it and trying one more Captivate before I look else where for a new phone. But after seeing this screen it would be hard to look at any other phone twice.
iphone4 would be a good screen alternative
ur antenna issue is unique and a new phone will probably fix it. id get that sim replaced too.
The new iPhone would be ok...but I can't go back to an iPhone. I have had 4 of them (2 first gens) and I am so bored of them. And I know people rave about the iPhones new screen but side by side with this phone I would take the extra screen real estate anyway.
And I did consider getting a new sim card too. I think I will wait until towards the end of my 30 day return policy and trade in for a new one.
Thanks for all the help guys
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Ok so this has happened every night I have had the Captivate (3 nights), I go to bed at night and in the morning where my signal bar should be I have a circle with a slash through it (no network). When I go to bed I will have like 2-4 bars of service but something must happen and I lose all network functionality. I have to restart the phone which solves the problem but is a serious pain. This also happens sometimes randomly throughout the day.
Any ideas if this is a common problem with all Captivates or if it is a hardware or software issue?
I like this phone and if I can get it to work properly I love it more than my iphone but not getting service is a buzz kill and I will return it. (Bought it unsubsidized for $500 because I couldn't deal with my iphone anymore)
Note: I live in Tampa which generally has good AT&T service and have had no other problems with other phones
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I've had mine since July 18th and had never have this happen...till this morning. When I pulled it off charger I noticed the signal meter what a circle with a slash. Well, I dont get great reception in my apartment so it didnt phase me until I was on my way to work and still didnt have a signal. So, I turned it off and back on and then it had a signal. So I dont know what was up with that. I'll keep an eye on it tomorrow to see if its something thats going to happen regularly.
Hmmm...so I'm not the only one having this problem. Yeah I don't get superb service in my apartment but I have also never really had any other network problems with other phones.
Wonder if there is something that kills the network if you don't have a decent signal for a certain period of time. I just wish it wasn't everyday. On the brightside nobody will wake me up with emails or texts or calls.
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I'm having a rather specific and odd problem with my captivate(s), three of them to be exact. First I bought the phone, upgrading from an Iphone 3g, and the first day it was great, the second day, in the evening, I noticed that it started this strange rebooting loop. The phone doesn't seem to power off because I don't see the Galaxy S symbol it just merely goes black then comes back and searches for the network, finds it, then a few minutes later goes black again, returns, search for the network, and so on. It keeps doing that over and over again. So I tried a factory reset the next morning just to make sure it wasn't a problem with any apps installed. The same rebooting loop happened. So I called a rep and dropped by the ATT store and they said it might be the sim card, which was very very old (still said cingular) so we swapped it. Same problem the next day. Okay so I went and I replaced the whole phone. The second day with Captivate #2, this rebooting loop occurred again. The reps told me that I might have gotten two bad ones and to exchange it again, so I did. And yet again I have the same problem. So here are some quick facts about the problem that I have learned. Total time span has been about 3 weeks.
-The most important thing to know about this issue is that the only thing that prevents the phone from going into this rebooting loop is if I enable flight mode, no network connectivity. I believe wi-fi is okay but whenever I disconnect from ATT's network it stops rebooting.
-Occurs more frequently at night/evening (only happened once in the morning)
-Is not affected by signal strength, full bars, low bars.
-Is not affected by installed apps (Had done factory resets and with my third captivate all I did was put the sim card in and put it in my pocket)
-Is not affected by battery status, low or full
-Doesn't seem to matter if I have a lot of things running or nothing running, the loop starts when I'm browsing, texting, in a call, or just locked in my pocket.
-Does not seem to be affected by charging source (wall, car, laptop, ps3/xbox)
Another thing to note is that I had an Iphone 3G with an unlimited data plan before this. The Captivate upgrade was done on another line on my family plan then given to me with a 2gb data plan. After talking to multiple reps over the phone, they said they had the wrong IMEI number (I have no idea what that means) but that leads me to wonder what else is wrong and is it a problem with the Captivates or ATT itself?
I really need some feedback because I'm about to just give up on this phone, which is heartbreaking because I fell in love it. My 30 days is approaching and if I am indeed returning it, it'll have to be very soon. What do you guys think?
I am currently running Ninja-0706, radio 26.06.06.30_M.
Intermittantly, my phone will drop out of H and start cycling through all the connections, edge, gsm, 3G etc. After cycling through, it will go to no connection at all where you see "no service" on the screen. And it will stay like that for several minutes, no matter where I am standing in my apartment, or even if i walk outside. Then all of a sudden, it will pick up H, full bars and it will stay like that.
So far, this issue has only happened a couple of times, within the past couple of weeks, and at my apartment. I have full wiped and flashed different roms, and reflashed the radio after the first time this happened, so this issue cannot be blamed on current said rom. This has led me to suspect that maybe there is an issue with the tower in my area. Twice I have called AT&T now about this issue. Both times they claim there have been no outages or issues with the towers in my area. They also claim that the closest tower to me is about 1 mile away, so there shouldn't be issues as such with a tower so close. I don't know anyone in my complex who is on AT&T to see if they are experiencing the same issue. So AT&T seems to think there might be an issue with the phone and i might need to do a warranty exchange. Any ideas before I flash back to stock and exchange it out?
While mine doesn't go that far, it'll cycle between H and 3G for no apparent reason.
Mine does weird **** sometimes, too, on Tue 04_11_M2 radio.
Just today I was sitting around browsing via WiFi, and bam, no signal. Most if the time it'll kick back in after a sec or two, but it stays like that until I intervene by toggling airplane mode, then, it'll be back to 3-4 bars or whatever.
Second time its happened over the last month, so no biggy.
In my house I get lots of signal variations overall, which I guess should be expected.
Well, my phone has done it twice since OP. I just flashed back to stock and downgraded to s-on. I'm going to see about an insurance claim.
Update: Just got off the phone with AT&T. They said that this issue would need to be handled by the warranty dept. So got back on the phone with tech support and they suggested that I go into an AT&T store and have the sim card replaced before they replace the phone, as the sim card itself might be causing this issue. It seems plausible because the sim card is needed for a connection to the network.
Are you having issues where the phone's internet cutting out? I'm trying to work out if its an issue with the phone or the signal in Manchester.
The phone will be working fine for texts and phone calls then when I go to use Internet radio, Marketplace or Internet browser quite often the internet will drop out.
Hi no .
My phone is behaving but does have the 3g to H problem where it flies between the 2 . Although this does seem not as bad as other users are experiencing
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Its literally driving me insane. Its about 6/10 times I go to use the internet it wont work! But if I do get it to stream it seems to be ok.
I'm considering going for the ONE X instead getting sick of the problems with the S.. Shame really as I love the size!
Hard reset and see how it acts after that .
Most of the niggles I had went after I did that.
The S for me is a keeper for a while , screen is great , battery life is amazing . Have you called 3 to see if there's an issue
Got mine today from three. Will report back if I notice anything. Three can slow data down I believe depending on usage on a network. Being in a city might have something to do with it.
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Be grateful you get signal. I get jack sh*t in manchester with vodafone haha, always have.
Well I unlocked my bootloader last night, didn't end up putting any ROMs on it but had to start again with my Apps everything was working perfectly when I went to download everything (This is in Sale, about 5 miles from where I work). I even managed some Battle Field 3 online gaming via personal hotspot on my PC.
It was only late on last night I starting having an issue.. was it an app I installed I wonder? I will experiment further.
Shame its networked locked, was going to led it to my friend to try with his Vodfone sim to see how he gets on with it.
Its not the PHONE WOooh! Three have just called, problem with the mast in my area, fixed by the 27th. I can deal with that. And there I was deleting apps etc.
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Its not the PHONE WOooh! Three have just called, problem with the mast in my area, fixed by the 27th. I can deal with that. And there I was deleting apps etc.
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Not to deflate your balloon but I have same prob. I have a fairly good Three signal where I live NE of York. Put the sim out of my One S into Defy+ and I get good signal. Put sim back into One S and back to 1 or 2 bars. I took it back to Three in York but with full signal in York had a hard time explaining my prob. So the assistant typed on the computer ..... guess what she said ....
" problem with the mast in my area, fixed by the end of the week"
Now that is one coincidence is it not? That said even if there was an issue with the 'mast' doesn't explain why the Defy+ has the normal good signal with no signal loss as per One S
Micro sim will work in Defy+ if you place it correctly over the connecting pins!
There are others on here with similar problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588345
There is definitely an issue with the current radio firmware as I still have the jumping 3G to H sign but even so at home on the Wirral or in Sale Manchester the internet is spot on, even if it only has 3/4 bars where as in work its full signal but the internet drops out all over the show.
I think it could well be a coincidence that there is an issue with the mast you're on, does the Desire support the faster HSDP+ internet? Maybe its that?
Not sure about the Desire.
I think it's probably the a firmware issue as you say. I know I have a good Three signal where I live as I've tried their PAYG service. Put either the payg or the monthly contract sim, both from Three, in the Defy+ and get a good signal readout. The signal seems to bounce all over. One minute I'm on full bars and the next lost connection. In York where signal is stronger than mine in the sticks there is no issue. Tried with little success to explain the problem to the assitant in Three shop but with full bars on phone she thought I was some sort of fool Mind you when she played the mast card asked why then the Moto Defy+ had no issues with signal
I'm hoping there will be a patch from HTC at some point though they maybe need to be made aware of the issue. I would like to try a T-Mobile sim in the One S but suspect it's locked to Three. I'm sure it's a network provider issue.
What's up guys, don't post much, so excuse if this is in wrong section or whatever. Just thought I'd post my solution for constant data dropping problem I was having. Where for one, I would only have a data connection for no more than 30 minutes before it would stop downloading/receiving any data. And then I'd have to turn mobile network off and then back on again. It also affected phones calls. Where once the data dropped and I tried to make a call it wouldn't connect at all. Nor could I receive calls without first turning off and back on mobile network, or airplane mode. In rare occasions it wouldn't even send texts. The worst part was that even when I had a data connection for whatever amount of time, I got 4g lte absolutely nowhere.
After extreme amounts of frustration, and 100's of reflashes, (not really) I came across a few forum post where users were experiencing the same issue. Some with root and some without. After further reading, some users posted that after contacting HTC, they recommended it be a sim card issue, as early micro Sims have shown to have some defects. And then that's what made me think. Sim card, maybe it's more simple than we think.
Thinking about how many times I dropped the fu*k out of my phone, I thought to grab my sim card removal tool and pop it out.
I noticed that with the sim card holder, the sim doesn't sit very snug in the slot, so given the thousands of times I've dropped this thing, it's likely that the sim card wasn't sitting in that "perfect spot". So I went ahead and blew in the card slot like a 90's game console, (cause that fixes everything) reseated the sim in the holder, and put it back in. And wala. 4g let speeds EVERYWHERE I go now, and not a single data drop for two days. Even when it's switching towers.
Now I no longer want to blow up AT&T
Because our phones don't have expandable memory, and an internal battery , we don't find ourselves having to open it, or constantly remove anything from it. Unless you have multiple carriers in which you switch between Sims with. But most of us contracted HOX users aren't even going to touch that sim slot.
To sum it up, I just hope that anyone that comes across this issue in the same details, and hasnt opened their sim card slot since the day it was activated and put in the phone, will come across this post. Just to give it a try before getting a new sim (as HTC suggests) or getting a different phone manufacturer (as AT&T suggest. -___- )
Thanks to all the devs for the hard work, and for keeping us interested in this ever-changing field.
Later
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What's up guys, don't post much, so excuse if this is in wrong section or whatever. Just thought I'd post my solution for constant data dropping problem I was having. Where for one, I would only have a data connection for no more than 30 minutes before it would stop downloading/receiving any data. And then I'd have to turn mobile network off and then back on again. It also affected phones calls. Where once the data dropped and I tried to make a call it wouldn't connect at all. Nor could I receive calls without first turning off and back on mobile network, or airplane mode. In rare occasions it wouldn't even send texts. The worst part was that even when I had a data connection for whatever amount of time, I got 4g lte absolutely nowhere.
After extreme amounts of frustration, and 100's of reflashes, (not really) I came across a few forum post where users were experiencing the same issue. Some with root and some without. After further reading, some users posted that after contacting HTC, they recommended it be a sim card issue, as early micro Sims have shown to have some defects. And then that's what made me think. Sim card, maybe it's more simple than we think.
Thinking about how many times I dropped the fu*k out of my phone, I thought to grab my sim card removal tool and pop it out.
I noticed that with the sim card holder, the sim doesn't sit very snug in the slot, so given the thousands of times I've dropped this thing, it's likely that the sim card wasn't sitting in that "perfect spot". So I went ahead and blew in the card slot like a 90's game console, (cause that fixes everything) reseated the sim in the holder, and put it back in. And wala. 4g let speeds EVERYWHERE I go now, and not a single data drop for two days. Even when it's switching towers.
Now I no longer want to blow up AT&T
Because our phones don't have expandable memory, and an internal battery , we don't find ourselves having to open it, or constantly remove anything from it. Unless you have multiple carriers in which you switch between Sims with. But most of us contracted HOX users aren't even going to touch that sim slot.
To sum it up, I just hope that anyone that comes across this issue in the same details, and hasnt opened their sim card slot since the day it was activated and put in the phone, will come across this post. Just to give it a try before getting a new sim (as HTC suggests) or getting a different phone manufacturer (as AT&T suggest. -___- )
Thanks to all the devs for the hard work, and for keeping us interested in this ever-changing field.
Later
Sent from my HOX
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I haven't dropped my phone, but if I shake it, I hear rattling. Is that the SIM card not sitting in there as tight as it should? I notice if I shake it enough, I'll lose some signal. Another weird thing, I'll get 4G LTE in school, but I walked into the parking lot today and only got 3G, but right now I am getting LTE again
It could be the sim, but it could also be the g sensor. I wouldn't imagine the sim be loose enough to cause a rattling. But who knows. They are micro šims, so the possibility of displacement on the contacts could be a bit more prone, as they have less surface area.
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I haven't dropped my phone, but if I shake it, I hear rattling. Is that the SIM card not sitting in there as tight as it should? I notice if I shake it enough, I'll lose some signal. Another weird thing, I'll get 4G LTE in school, but I walked into the parking lot today and only got 3G, but right now I am getting LTE again
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It's the camera. Normal.
I have quirky cell coverage areas on at&t too. Same spots with different phones for past 8 years.
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It's the camera. Normal.
I have quirky cell coverage areas on at&t too. Same spots with different phones for past 8 years.
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Ah, makes sense.
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My network losses were seriously unbearable. Sometimes I could only be browsing for less than 5 minutes before it dropped. Then it would continue ever five minutes after turning off and back on.
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