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XBMC on Android

I think the time is near.
Linux Specific:
* Added support for ARM processor architecture (with TI OMAP3 and NVIDIA Tegra 2 as reference)
* Added OpenMAX Video Acceleration support (requires OpenMax IL compatible hardware, like Tegra2
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The above was stated on changelog for the new stable XBMC release.
I am not expert on these things but is it really time for XBMC on Android tablets and phones?

This would be a great app for android,can anyone express their opinions in regard? Can it be done?

I would love to see this for my Xperia X10a.

How would xbmc bring anything worthwhile to a mobile platform? Don't get me wrong, I love xbmc... On my tv.
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How would xbmc bring anything worthwhile to a mobile platform? Don't get me wrong, I love xbmc... On my tv.
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In light of the upcoming Atrix 4G with their media hub, this would be perfect for a portable xbmc which you can take anywhere with you (especially when you have to travel).

Open the doors and bring forth XBMC........ please?
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Those are two very specif SOC reference designs with limited availability in todays market. The Nexus One for example runs the MSM SOC, and Tegra2 phones were just announced this week.

It chapped my hide to find out that there are nearly full blown XBMC installs available now for iOS devices like the iPad and iPhone 4. How can there not be one in development for the Tegra 2 with existing tablets using that processor already available for purchase for less than $400...?

Yeah, with the elocity a7 @ $299 boasting a tegra 2 and 512 mb of RAM someone should jump on it.

*bump*
Do want.

Are there any news?

the majority of the libraries aren't a problem in a distribution sense, the NDK has support for that. the problem is the core ones, libc etc. Those which means a custom compiler. This won't do for market inclusion I bet. You can surely do a custom rom and just use the standard arm compiler but it would never be acceptible on market.
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http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=84194&page=7

just a thought what if it is coded for android live?

Ios version works really we on my iPhone 4. I was completely gob smacked to find out there wasn't a version that could run on my android tablet. Make no sense at all that to open source system dosen't have It while the Analy retentive ios has a fully fledged functional version.

I wouldn't mind some news on this either. I had an Ubuntu 10.04 box, built from spare computer parts, serving as my XBMC hub. I wouldn't mind a smaller more portable version.

I'd love an update too.

It won't work until someone compiles all the libraries XBMC depends on (it's a lot) for Android.
Someone had said they were going to do that, but that was about a month ago and no one has chimed in since then.
sassafras

wonder if they re doing it.....

i use xbmc on my apple tv 2 (the thing is USELESS without it...) and would really love to have this on either my phone or an android tablet if/when I decide to buy one.
Consider me confused as well at how ios has xbmc yet android doesnt? really???

I have been waiting for this for a long time
I have been waiting for this since before they released it for ios devices. I would pay good money for the ability to run xbmc on my android devices! If I knew how I would have given it a try but maybe someone who is talented at these things could do there magic. If there is anyone out there working on this it would be fantastic for all of us Android/XBMC users. I just think it suits the android devices better anyways bigger screens faster processors more freedom. Thanks and Please!!

Don't worry - Android 4.0 soon release and Honeycomb soon widely available

Google I/O: Developers Want Android 4.0 'Ice Cream
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385113,00.asp
Alright - patient, patient - soon HoneyComb will be publicly available for every Android tablet (strongly advised by Google - 3.0 needs DUAL CORE!)
Okkk - My next tablet will be Asus Transformer and will be probably cheaper than $399 maybe $299 !

I appreciate your optimism, but I think Ice Cream is a while away. Honeycomb isn't even ready for the mainstream. I doubt Google is going to double down on unfinished operating systems but who knows. With their whole "Beta" idea we could have four or five operating systems running around in the wild. Oh, wait... And don't forget about the role our device manufacturers play. Don't mistake my pessimism as a dismissal. I think we'll have our dessert, and eat it too. Just maybe a little farther down the road.

Or, if you watched the fireside presentation you would see that we are never getting HC released. ICS is scheduled for Q4, which could be Dec 30th, and that just means launched on a device, does not mean AOSP.
This is a dark year for tablets. nVidia and the l4t work is probably going to be our most exciting project in the next 2-3 weeks.

slysecretspy said:
Or, if you watched the fireside presentation you would see that we are never getting HC released. ICS is scheduled for Q4, which could be Dec 30th, and that just means launched on a device, does not mean AOSP.
This is a dark year for tablets. nVidia and the l4t work is probably going to be our most exciting project in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Whats L4T?

Coldfirex said:
Whats L4T?
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Linux For Tegra

Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!

rcjpth said:
Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!
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Correct me if i am wrong, but i think there is a confusion here.
Android OS as linux OS are both based on Unix code(which sometimes is also called Linux).
So when they say that there will be Linux for Tegra they are saying: Will pass from AndroidOS(unix/linux)Code to LinuxOS(Unix/Linux) Code.
Again, i am not an expert, but this is what i understood from various posts.

Gtablet has Tegra CPU and runs Android 2.2 (which is Linux) - so what is it being told here L4T "Linux 4 Tegra"?
Yeah kinda confuse but the Tegra is already being used by Linux - what's up with this - LOL - good time waster though !!

rcjpth said:
Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!
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To be more precise, Android is a software stack comprised of an OS, middleware (not much in Android since that stuff is part of OS) and applications. The OS in Android's case has a kernel aimed at mobile phone use based on Linux.
Android is not Linux, just like Linux is not UNIX, but it is derived from it.
Don't know offhand WHICH Linux was the base for Android, but I would lean towards Slackware, Debian, SUSE or Red Hat since they were the big dawgs in 2003.

ICS Code Released...waiting for a new ROM with it!

Finally released the code for Ice Cream Sandwich!
The source code for Ice Cream Sandwich has finally been released, and already ahead of its predecessor, this Honeycomb. This Android 4.0 will operate as barriers accounted for 3.0 ROMs for developers and manufacturers of different products. Welcome to a new era.
In fact, the version released and available for download is 4.0.1, so that it is new face of which we have seen in some Galaxy Nexus surely debuggers or solution to a silly bug.
Currently this version is only available as a ready-made settings included, and settings for other devices will still have to wait. Needless to say, if you know what we talked about then is best to wait until they are released versions "for all", this is for high skills and developers.
It is a version almost embryonic but complete, for some technical problems they have had with your server, but also functional. You only have to download it (link is below) and in the source tree will have to find "full_maguro" that you can use to create a system image for Galaxy Nexus.
Just follow the instructions you will have once the download page (again, at the end of post), and for this use the following GIT:
repo init-u-b android-https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest 4.0.1_r1
We sure will be a long download and have patience, do not synchronize until we are sure it is fully completed or will have an unusable version.
This release includes all updates Android tree, including all of Honeycomb (care tablets manufacturers or rosemary), but insist that "everyone wants to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich" (words).
This discovery has published Jean-Baptiste Queru, Android Software Engineer in the Building Android group of AOSP. For questions, go to the source that we put down at all and do not hesitate to ask. Ice Cream Sandwich!

CM9, this is the truth

man, i can't wait to get my hands on ics!

We have a great community of developers working on this phone, it just hope it will last at least for another year. I've previously had a Samsung Galaxy Spica with great support from Samdroid but after some time they had some problems and stopped development till some while ago when tom3q started releasing GB for it (cm7). I've moved to LG p500 with also great support from XDA, but also the progress is kinda slow now, i have motorola defy (well not now, it's been a year) and i just love what progress is being made. I just hope it will last most than the two other devices mentioned.
I think after we have fully working ICS (if we encounter no major problems with the kernel <or maybe we'll have an unlocked bootloader to play with---fingers crossed>) maybe then the development can stop
I know this is a lot to ask the developers, since everyone moves to dual-core devices (and quad core soon)...but please stay with us on this one. You already have our deepest respect but we still need you guys

adi4motion said:
We have a great community of developers working on this phone, it just hope it will last at least for another year. I've previously had a Samsung Galaxy Spica with great support from Samdroid but after some time they had some problems and stopped development till some while ago when tom3q started releasing GB for it (cm7). I've moved to LG p500 with also great support from XDA, but also the progress is kinda slow now, i have motorola defy (well not now, it's been a year) and i just love what progress is being made. I just hope it will last most than the two other devices mentioned.
I think after we have fully working ICS (if we encounter no major problems with the kernel <or maybe we'll have an unlocked bootloader to play with---fingers crossed>) maybe then the development can stop
I know this is a lot to ask the developers, since everyone moves to dual-core devices (and quad core soon)...but please stay with us on this one. You already have our deepest respect but we still need you guys
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Yeah I remember you. Even I was a member on samdroid forum and leshak made lot of development for spica but then he disappeared and then came tom3q. Now Tom3q is working on new kernel for spica. I remember even you had made some contribution for in making froyo possible for spica. And you know what even antibyte owns a defy. Hope he still owns it and helps the other devs develop ICS for defy.

im started to compiled for my nexus-s with 237.driver, for now we have the correct driver only for galaxy nexus, but if someone have an idea what driver for defy we can used i can try to porting to defy!

Great !!!

heck! my pc is 4 hours, which is downloading the various repo, now I read on the forum dev-google that are prerequisites hardware to compile ics :
24GB of ram / ​​cpu intel xeon or dual i7, ADSL broadband or fiber optic ......

cardozclive said:
Yeah I remember you. Even I was a member on samdroid forum and leshak made lot of development for spica but then he disappeared and then came tom3q. Now Tom3q is working on new kernel for spica. I remember even you had made some contribution for in making froyo possible for spica. And you know what even antibyte owns a defy. Hope he still owns it and helps the other devs develop ICS for defy.
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my contribution on spica was very small... insignificant (a lock key fix and the 315x315 mod) not "really" contributing but thanks for remembering

what a hell of specs to compile an ICS..
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iaio72 said:
heck! my pc is 4 hours, which is downloading the various repo, now I read on the forum dev-google that are prerequisites hardware to compile ics :
24GB of ram / ​​cpu intel xeon or dual i7, ADSL broadband or fiber optic ......
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i think those are exaggerated like they sai that in order to run Battlefield 3 you need minimum Core 2 Duo at 3GHz and i run it on my Laptop (Pentium Dual Core 2GHz (sandy brigde)) with most settings on ULTRA)
keep up the good work

Those pre-requisites are to ensure you compile in a reasonable ammount of time
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adi4motion said:
i think those are exaggerated like they sai that in order to run Battlefield 3 you need minimum Core 2 Duo at 3GHz and i run it on my Laptop (Pentium Dual Core 2GHz (sandy brigde)) with most settings on ULTRA)
keep up the good work
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its true, read on dev-cyanogen forum!

iaio72 said:
heck! my pc is 4 hours, which is downloading the various repo, now I read on the forum dev-google that are prerequisites hardware to compile ics :
24GB of ram / ​​cpu intel xeon or dual i7, ADSL broadband or fiber optic ......
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What the hell...???? Maybe someone with a supercomputer can do it... really???
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waiting for cyanogonmod to release cm9 for defy

I have an idea!
We can use Grid Computing method with CUDA video cards
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

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What the hell...???? Maybe someone with a supercomputer can do it... really???
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my GOD! what's with that?! why? this is not good news. That means there will be less developers working on it
but really... why does it need that much ram?

iaio72 said:
heck! my pc is 4 hours, which is downloading the various repo, now I read on the forum dev-google that are prerequisites hardware to compile ics :
24GB of ram / ​​cpu intel xeon or dual i7, ADSL broadband or fiber optic ......
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24Gb of RAM.....bullsh*t that doesn't even exist xD. You may have meant 2,4Gb..or else your sources are wrong .
Honestly people, just stop and think....does 24Gb of Ram even SOUND believable?! NO x)
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my mac pro has 32gb of ram...so yeah, it's a 2006 model. I think it's possible.
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[Q] Tegra release 15 harmony

I did some searching on this and maybe I am failing here but this has the driver package for harmony. It is beta and they have deprecated harmony but isn't this what is needed in order to support hardware acceleration with ICS?
developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21729380
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So this is actually legit???

I hope so.
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Lets see what our talented Devs can do!
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Hmmmm... I'm skeptical by nature, but maybe something will come of this.

Supported Features
Kernel version 3.1.10
Media APIs:
OpenGL ES 2.0
OpenGL ES 1.1
Open GL ES path extensions
EGL 1.4 with EGLImage
X Resize, Rotate and Reflect Extension (RandR) 1.3
X11 ABI 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 support
Looks promising.
Seems like i won't trash this phone for the Galaxy Nexus.

New Features
This release fixes some issues that were found during continued testing and adds/enhances the following features:
Preliminary U Boot support. For more information, see U-Boot support is preliminary in this release in the Implementation Notes section. The multimedia streaming and capture applications nvgstplayer and nvgstcapture are included in the release file instead of being provided as a separate downloadable package. The Tegra X Driver ABI 12 is supported.
Also note that this is only a beta release and is for testing purposes only.

I believe that's for the tegra not tegra2

masteroftime666 said:
I believe that's for the tegra not tegra2
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I believe you are incorrect with that statement, if you check out the site it says tegra 2. Please do correct how I am wrong if so, I am new to this
Linux For Tegra
Overview
NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 Beta is now available. The NVIDIA Tegra Linux Driver Package supports development of platforms running:
NVIDIA Tegra 3 series computer-on-a-chip (Cardhu)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 series computer-on-a-chip (Harmony* and Ventana)
3.1.10 Linux kernel
* Additionally, developers should note that support for Harmony devices are deprecated. We provide the harmony build for reference only and it is provided as-is. Support for Harmony will transition to community-supported Linux kernels, and Ventana will be the Tegra 2 reference platform.

masteroftime666 said:
I believe that's for the tegra not tegra2
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Quoted from Nvidia's website:
NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 Beta is now available. The NVIDIA Tegra Linux Driver Package supports development of platforms running:
NVIDIA Tegra 3 series computer-on-a-chip (Cardhu)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 series computer-on-a-chip (Harmony* and Ventana)
3.1.10 Linux kernel
* Additionally, developers should note that support for Harmony devices are deprecated. We provide the harmony build for reference only and it is provided as-is. Support for Harmony will transition to community-supported Linux kernels, and Ventana will be the Tegra 2 reference platform.

Nice try nvidia I'm still not buying your phones evar again
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Here is my understanding:
This contains compiled binaries for a reference board.
There are two ways to get ICS support for the G2x:
1. Uncompiled reference source code is needed so it can be modified for use with the G2x.
2. Compiled binaries for the G2x must be provided.
#2 cannot come from nvidia for various reasons but rather must come from an OEM (LG).

aaCotyaa said:
Quoted from Nvidia's website:
NVIDIA is pleased to announce that Linux for Tegra release 15 Beta is now available. The NVIDIA Tegra Linux Driver Package supports development of platforms running:
NVIDIA Tegra 3 series computer-on-a-chip (Cardhu)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 series computer-on-a-chip (Harmony* and Ventana)
3.1.10 Linux kernel
* Additionally, developers should note that support for Harmony devices are deprecated. We provide the harmony build for reference only and it is provided as-is. Support for Harmony will transition to community-supported Linux kernels, and Ventana will be the Tegra 2 reference platform.
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My mistake good man should have payed attention to detail

Hm. I just noticed it is says Linux, and not Android...
I wonder if that will work.. Maybe some of our awesome dev can rip the right part to get everything working .

android is
linux right?

I'm so confused! Is this what the devs were looking for?

Android is Linux based. Tegra is for mobile processors. I'm not sure but I don't think we can expect all the necessary components in this package.
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Are there any devs left that can compile this and just try plugging it in?

Maybe its just me, but I think if this is what was needed, well CM would be on it and someone would have at least attempted something by now.
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tegra 2 harmony video excelerated kernel

I was just wondering, the viewsonic gtablet is a tegra 2 harmony device and the guys at team drh have made a kernel for ics that is fully hardware excelerated so my question is since the g2x is a harmony device can the drh kernel be used as a base for a working g2x kernel with full video decoding just like the gtablet???

Harmony is for tablets. We have Ventana.
Closest best is the ZTE Mimosa X which has ICS and the Ventana. When it drops hopefully we can grab the drivers from there.

From the 2x side:
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If porting full working drivers were possible in any way from any device to make o2x runs with everything working on ics it should be done by now.. Al the things you are thinking now developers though about it long time ago... I'm developer myself.. Just not android developer.. I develop in assembler for microcontrollers as I am electronics engineer, and trust me there's nothing that I don't know about the chips I work on...
Every microcontroler (I'm specialist in microchip) has different libraries to access the different modules... As microchip produce open source libraries I can access all the functionalities in the processor and microchip provide the full pdf with the instructions set for every processor.. But even chips from the same family with a minimum variation like let's say pic18f478 to pic18f478a can have bunch of different modules with a bunch of different libraries...
So once I can develop a function out of the instructions set (what's called here from scratch) I can then develop a library wich I can call in my main software every time I want the processor execute an action... So in this case Nvidia won't provide their instructions set for their processors... They only provide libraries to oems... And oems can develop procedures and functions with these libraries...
That said Nvidia has no responsibilities here... Because no matter what os oems use the chips and the libraries are the same and the method to access chipset function won't change from one os to another... That's processor architecture and can not be modified..
LG has to re develop the function and procedures to work with the new os that is low level (assembler compiled) and embedded into the os... Those functions are way different from one device to another and it's not possible to use them unless it's the same exact chip family with no variants...
Devs here can not develop functions because they don't have access to the libraries... They only have access to the final product or what I could call the UI for developer.. And that's the DRIVERS..
That's it..
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Harmony is for tablets. We have Ventana.
Closest best is the ZTE Mimosa X which has ICS and the Ventana. When it drops hopefully we can grab the drivers from there.
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You mean this???
tonyp said:
Here is a high-speed mirror of the ROM: http://d-h.st/DDn
RC hasn't replied to me, yet.
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redmonke255 said:
Harmony is for tablets. We have Ventana.
Closest best is the ZTE Mimosa X which has ICS and the Ventana. When it drops hopefully we can grab the drivers from there.
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Are you sure about that everything i read said g2x was a harmony board and its not as simple as one is phone one is tablet the Motorola xoom is a ventana board i do believe its more to do with components like memory and amount of memory sound chips and how they are implemented together

Everything you've read is wrong then.
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#section_2
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redmonke255 said:
Everything you've read is wrong then.
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So why are the xoom and transformer tf101 referred to as ventana devices on this site in their own forums???

Big_Doodie said:
So why are the xoom and transformer tf101 referred to as ventana devices on this site in their own forums???
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Because the people saying it are misinformed. Ventana is the phone version, harmony is the tablet version.
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Is this of any use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29622231&postcount=378

lehjr said:
Is this of any use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29622231&postcount=378
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Can this really be it? Somebody confirm so I can save some $ for donations!

Please be useful... I'm praying right now.

Fingers crossed
Wouldn't that be wonderful!

gpmartinson said:
Wouldn't that be wonderful!
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It might make me keep my G2x a lil' bit longer

Recently released Tegra 2 drivers are for Linux (Ubuntu), and they're binary so they're virtually impossible to hack for Android without superhuman effort and skills and unlimited time.
Read from XDA post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26960631&postcount=1
and read the information at the Wikipedia site about Open Source and NVIDIA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS
and read the statement from NVIDIA
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ra-devices-as-long-as-their-manufacturers-do/
and read this statement by Ricardo Cerqueira:
https://plus.google.com/11504942893...jeUiS#115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
and read the Tegra Linux Driver Package release notes:
http://developer.download.nvidia.co...ux_Driver_Package_Release_Notes_R15_armhf.pdf

Core Memory said:
Recently released Tegra 2 drivers are for Linux (Ubuntu), and they're binary so they're virtually impossible to hack for Android without superhuman effort and skills and unlimited time.
Read from XDA post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26960631&postcount=1
and read the information at the Wikipedia site about Open Source and NVIDIA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS
and read the statement from NVIDIA
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ra-devices-as-long-as-their-manufacturers-do/
and read this statement by Ricardo Cerqueira:
https://plus.google.com/11504942893...jeUiS#115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
and read the Tegra Linux Driver Package release notes:
http://developer.download.nvidia.co...ux_Driver_Package_Release_Notes_R15_armhf.pdf
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Boooooo, I'm sad... again

Naive but
Not sure I get the problem...isn't android really a linux clone with less stuff? Wish I knew more about how this works.