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[Q] Is FroYo even available for custom ROMs yet?

I havent noticed anything about a FroYo ROM for the Mes but wanted to make sure. I thought I saw that it was released on the Galaxy S but is it available for the Mes in any form yet?

Iguana775 said:
I havent noticed anything about a FroYo ROM for the Mes but wanted to make sure. I thought I saw that it was released on the Galaxy S but is it available for the Mes in any form yet?
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EU Galaxy S and Telus Fascinate only as far as I know. The Mesmerize is slated for Q1 2011. Hopefully that's January and not March. If the VZW Fascinate gets it first, it can and probably will be ported and vice versa.

phidelt82 said:
EU Galaxy S and Telus Fascinate only as far as I know. The Mesmerize is slated for Q1 2011. Hopefully that's January and not March. If the VZW Fascinate gets it first, it can and probably will be ported and vice versa.
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Ok, figured as much.
When I was in the USCC corp store getting the Mes, one of the guys seems pretty sure 2.2 would be out in Jan. hope he's right.

I guess the question I have is are the different flavors of the Galaxy S that different hardware wise that they would not be able to run it?
Or is it another example of Corp America at work.
My understanding at this time is that Carriers are afraid of network security?
Another theory I have seen is its about tethering and carriers trying to extract every shickle they can.
Sorry if rambling just trying to get my mind wrapped around it all.
really not happy that there is software that I can not run out there because I have an outdated OS on bleeding edge hardware.

I tether every day with No issues. As long as one does not go over the 5gb limit who will know?
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piperthedj said:
I tether every day with No issues. As long as one does not go over the 5gb limit who will know?
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I know some people who work for US Cell in all different areas of the business, and they all agree. If you don't go over the 5gb data, they won't know. However, if you do go over the 5gb, they assume you are using the tethering and will charge you for it.

piperthedj said:
I tether every day with No issues. As long as one does not go over the 5gb limit who will know?
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when you start the Wireless Modem app that comes with it stock, it says that you need the tethering package. is this just a friendly warning and us as users are supposed to have that package or does the phone somehow tell USCC that we're tethering?

Iguana775 said:
when you start the Wireless Modem app that comes with it stock, it says that you need the tethering package. is this just a friendly warning and us as users are supposed to have that package or does the phone somehow tell USCC that we're tethering?
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From what I've heard, a friendly warning.

Verizon Galaxy S III Development

This is a little placeholder

All these provider-based development threads for the same phone . . . feels like fragmentation.
- ooofest

LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums

aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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+1

I support this subforum.

aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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Sure, I understand, thanks. Was making a funny - hence my smiley - related to complaints on Android OS fragmentation, since the number of subforums looks (on the surface) like so many variations, now.
- ooofest

release
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question

where's jt1134?
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thabless3d1 said:
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
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this is the development forums, release discussion belongs in the General section over HERE

aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols

pitnefor said:
whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
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=/= is ≠ is != ... but you already knew that.

Fragmentation is relative. Also a dumb term for dumb pple that have lost the arguement. A windows notepad doc has zero "fragmentation" what does that prove. And what a term to coin by steve jobs. Since its "fragmented" u say stevie, can i use a defragmenter. No wonder pple call rooting jail breaking on apple. First because theres no legitimate intelligent third party development and second because its a virtual prison cell. The apple wardens hate to see cracks in the concrete and bars. Apple will never match 4.0 however long they try. Cant compare a prison cell to a full stadium.
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I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.

bigwalt12 said:
I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
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On or by July 9th/10th/11th, depending how soon your ordered.
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Here's hoping one of you talented developers can make a one-click root tool for the Verizon SGSIII. I have kind of fallen in love with the WugFresh toolkit for the GNex.

Just pre-ordered it tonight in time to keep my unlimited data, can't wait to get it in my hands and get a real taste of CM9 :thumbup: Gotta get TouchWiz off of there pronto...
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The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?

760hacker said:
The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
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In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.

AlexDeGruven said:
In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
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I can't wait to get mine.
Problem is, I'm spoiled. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I opened another line for, so I used the upgrade on my line that I got now in order to ensure I keep my unlimited data for another two years. My mom will be getting my Nexus.
Now here's the part where I'm spoiled- the SGSIII is a superior phone, that much most people can agree on. However, the SGSIII is running Touchwiz over ICS (4.0.4?). My Nexus is running stock 4.1. It's gonna take some getting used to going back to ICS, even if Jelly Bean has only been public for a day or so.

I believe the International S3's are able to get the 4.1 update now.
I don't see us being to far behind once we actually get our devices from big red.

The hard "lessons learned" from buying the Droid Charge

Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?

The reason for this is...?
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dSlice said:
The reason for this is...?
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PSA... don't buy cheap android phones. Infact, don't buy phones from VZW unless you shop at Costco.

dbaps said:
Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?
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I like my Charge now that I'm able to run Tweaked 3 on it. It was the first 4g smart phone that Samsung put out. It's not perfect but at the time it was better than both the Thunderbolt and the Revolution. Of course all the later phones are better. What do you expect?
Of course it was overpriced. It's an early model. Look at the number of smart phones that have been sold since. A Commodore 64 computer was over $2,000. Look at what you get now for about $500. That's the way of electronics. It's the price we pay for being early adopters.
The only problem I have is terrible data signals at work. But that's a network problem. Verizon is having some trouble trying to implement 4g signal nationwide. That's to be expected. You didn't get ripped off. You just paid the price for being an early adopter.

All I hear is b*tching and moaning. When I bought this phone, it was the best one out. If I had to go back and buy again, I'd still pick this phone.
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dbaps said:
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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1. This is on EVERY phone. Have you even been to a Verizon store lately and played with a new one? IT STILL HAS BLOATWARE.
2. This is because most apps are now geared towards much more powerful devices. It's not the end of the world. And if you know about XDA, this shouldn't be a problem.
3. I've seriously never had a problem with this, and even very few on this forum have had an issue. Maybe it's operator error!
4. If this actually affected you, maybe you shouldn't have an android phone. Tethering apps were still very readily available.
5. Again, this was the best device out when it was new. You can't predict the future, so you're taking a gamble when you buy it. Most phones of this era are stuck on GB too. They never made ANY promises.
6. Okay, I have no response to this. It seriously sucks. But that's with EVERY phone, and your thread implies that it's the Charge's fault.
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I feel wronged by Verizon because of losing unlimited data too. I was told when I shelled out the $299 for the phone that I would have unlimited data as long as I kept a smart phone on my account. I guess I understand why they've backed out of it. Too many 4g phones using unlimited data plus subsidizing all the new phones would be expensive. But still, they promised me I'd always have unlimited data. If I could get decent signal where I work I could listen to Pandora or stream an occasional Netflix movie and I could use up 2 GB data pretty easy. But as it is I don't use a lot of data. I would if I could. Believe me.
I was checking out the data coverage of the major cellular networks earlier today and it still looks like Verizon is the top dog. The others have quite a bit of catching up to do. I can upgrade on 1/22/12 with the discount. My contract ends in May. We'll see what develops. Since my Charge has become such a cool phone I don't mind using it for a while at all. It's getting a little beat up looking but that awesome Gorilla Glass screen is still in good shape.

It was the best phone at the time
I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.

dbaps said:
I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.
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I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....

I still have my DC. I heard there a was an ICS ROM out for it somewhere. But besides that I've had my USCC Mesmerize for over a year now. We got all kinds of ICS and JB ROMs from the Fascinate on VZW. Being development is good there's been no need to upgrade. Really wish the DC would get more love.
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jco23 said:
I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....
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Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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dbaps said:
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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hmm, i can upgrade right now, upgrade again tomorrow, upgrade again in a few months and keep my unlimited data. it's your choice if you have to have a new phone and start up a new 2yr contract. i don't have any reason to and will just pick up phones off contract. wait a year or a few months less and they generally drop for $300 or less.

stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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At the time I bought this phone, there were two 4G phones choices, and you had the option of a little more power under the hood with the Thunderbolt, or much better battery life (Like. 3X better. The battery life on the Thunderbolt was HORRID) and a better screen with the Droid Charge.
I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
That said, my upgrade isn't far off, and I certainly look forward to a new phone, but c'est la vie. It's served me well for almost two years, now.

fryguy101 said:
I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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stueycaster said:
Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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Oh, I agree that it's darn good (And is what I'm running).
But I'd love for AOSP to be available on the phone, so we could move to ICS (And JB, and beyond) instead of being stuck with the whims of Samsung who decided to not upgrade the Charge to ICS because they couldn't also port TouchWiz...

I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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Wanna trade?
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I would probably trade
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jager420 said:
I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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That's a bash of the Verizon CLNR program more than it is the phones. When I had to send my Rezound back, it took 3 tries to get a "like new" replacement that was actually like new. The first replacement had a screen that was lifting completely off the phone. The second replacement's USB port died within 2 weeks. Their "100-point check" is a complete joke.

It took me three Charges to get a working one. First one had a software meltdown, and the second one wouldn't accept a charge. Now this one is having issues with data when on Tweaked (I'm running CM 10 so obviously i don't have data now, but the problems started earlier). Got another year before my upgrade...
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I bought my charge as CLNR back in 9/2011 ($100 at the time, I think). still running great, thanks to this community.

AT&T $100 Trade-in Promotion Starting

I just wanted to post this for all of you considering getting a new phone on AT&T, such as the One, S4, Blackberry, etc. According to what I have read, it looks like AT&T is starting a promotion tomorrow that will give an instant $100 or more credit toward a new phone of your choice when you trade in your old working smart phone, ( 3 years old or less). This may help in the decision making process for many people.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57582180-85/at-t-trade-in-drops-galaxy-s4-htc-one-others-to-$99/

not sure if its worth returning the gs4 and re-buying it again using a trade in.... when i could sell the trade in phone for 200 on CL and making my phone free....

I do have a old captivate... I wonder what condition does it have to be in?
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I got $160 for my og note. The Sales Rep kept doing something on her tablet and my phone keypad til she got $160. paid like 86 bucks for my s4.
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It is true. It starts tomorrow May 1st. Bring in any smartphone 3 years and newer in working condition, no cracked screens, etc. and receive $100 towards the purchase of a smartphone $199 or more.
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I'm starting to hate AT&T even more. I recently tried to get an early upgrade (60 days away) & was turned down over the phone. It really pissed me off since I've been a long time customer in good standing. Pissed me off so much, I've been considering going to TMO & now they do this to me. Hopefully this last for more than 30 days since they won't budge unless im within 30 days or less.

Can you trade in a rooted and unlocked phone that has been flashed?
I want the S4 pretty badly and I want to trade in my 1 year old HTC One X but I unlocked, rooted and flashed this thing.

deblas66 said:
Can you trade in a rooted and unlocked phone that has been flashed?
I want the S4 pretty badly and I want to trade in my 1 year old HTC One X but I unlocked, rooted and flashed this thing.
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So re-lock and unroot it?

You can probably sell the phone for way more on eBay or some other places. It's not worth giving it to att.

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Took in my 2 year old gs2 and picked up 100 off the s4. Just reverted to stock from aokp. Dont think it was worth the hassle of selling on ebay.
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does anyone know how extensively they check the phone at the store? My phone works perfectly except that for some reason I can't get any service on it. I've tried fixing and troubleshooting for a while but have given up so I'm looking to get back some money for it. So does anyone know if they will check the phone for reception?

bacon_n_icecream said:
does anyone know how extensively they check the phone at the store? My phone works perfectly except that for some reason I can't get any service on it. I've tried fixing and troubleshooting for a while but have given up so I'm looking to get back some money for it. So does anyone know if they will check the phone for reception?
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I removed the sim from mine and it was at the setup screen (touch the android) and that was it. It was only checked to be sure it would power on and nothing further.

bacon_n_icecream said:
does anyone know how extensively they check the phone at the store? My phone works perfectly except that for some reason I can't get any service on it. I've tried fixing and troubleshooting for a while but have given up so I'm looking to get back some money for it. So does anyone know if they will check the phone for reception?
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Yeah you should be fine.
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AllTheWay said:
Yeah you should be fine.
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phjnky said:
I removed the sim from mine and it was at the setup screen (touch the android) and that was it. It was only checked to be sure it would power on and nothing further.
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Thanks for the quick responses, I really appreciate it and am glad I'll be able to at least get something for it. Thanks again

Do i need to revert to stock to trade in?
What if I have CM10 running on my GS2? Honestly, they should give me more money for that (because it is more than functional)

switters1 said:
Do i need to revert to stock to trade in?
What if I have CM10 running on my GS2? Honestly, they should give me more money for that (because it is more than functional)
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I wouldn't think its necessary based on my experience this morning. They just checked to see if it lit up when turned on.

Does anyone know if they would accept a CDMA version of iPhone 4?? I have one sitting around collecting dust. Great condition.
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dray said:
Does anyone know if they would accept a CDMA version of iPhone 4?? I have one sitting around collecting dust. Great condition.
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They check the imei/serial number on them. You can check on the website and see if it will work.
https://tradein-program.att.com/home.php5#top

Buying T-Mobile S4 instead of AT&T?

hi guys,
so i am in the market for a new phone and decided to sticking with Samsung and going to an S4. the problem is that with all the bs about the locked bootloader, i do not feel confident about buying the AT&T model and to be honest, i also don't feel like giving AT&T any of my money. so that leaves me with 2 options: go with the GE which is a lot more expensive and also only comes in white or just buy a T-Mobile model and get it unlocked so i can use it on AT&T. so my question is if anybody here did that and just bought a T-Mobile model and runs it on AT&T?
any other advice?

I bought the t-mobile s4. I run it on AT&T and have had no real problems. The one thing that I have noticed, running a few custom roms, is that LTE drops in and out.
I've also noticed some weird behavior regarding talk and data. If I take a phone call, data ceases to work for a few seconds. I'm pretty sure this is an apn setting or a rom issue. Nothing to do with the network I'm running on or anything like that.
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How much did it set you back the tmobile branded one? Can you just walk into a tmobile store and buy one outright?
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r_diaz13 said:
How much did it set you back the tmobile branded one? Can you just walk into a tmobile store and buy one outright?
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prata said:
I bought the t-mobile s4. I run it on AT&T and have had no real problems. The one thing that I have noticed, running a few custom roms, is that LTE drops in and out.
I've also noticed some weird behavior regarding talk and data. If I take a phone call, data ceases to work for some few seconds. I'm pretty sure this is an apn setting or a rom issue. Nothing to do with the network I'm running out on or anything like that.
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Are these roms AT&T roms or tmobile roms? That can be your issue, make sure if you are running tmobile roms to apply the right apn

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http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-4-tmobile/us
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Are these roms AT&T roms or tmobile roms? That can be your issue, make sure if you are running tmobile roms to apply the right apn
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so technically all you need to do is get he t-mobile phone, unlock it and then run whatever t-mobile rom you want and simply manually set the ATT APN?

Rattles said:
so technically all you need to do is get he t-mobile phone, unlock it and then run whatever t-mobile rom you want and simply manually set the ATT APN?
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That or just run a AT&T Rom. I am under the impression they are the same device, once you confirm that I would recommend just running an AT&T rom to avoid issues. If I am wrong please someone let me know. It would have to be the non Loki version.
Their may be some international roms you can flash as well
Please double check this information before flashing, even though they seem to have almost everything in common they may differ in minor ways (radios and so on) I do not have a S4 to test and have not read around.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
That or just run a AT&T Rom. I am under the impression they are the same device, once you confirm that I would recommend just running an AT&T rom to avoid issues. If I am wrong please someone let me know. It would have to be the non Loki version.
Their may be some international roms you can flash as well
Please double check this information before flashing, even though they seem to have almost everything in common they may differ in minor ways (radios and so on) I do not have a S4 to test and have not read around.
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time to do some more reading but i am pretty sure that i will go for the t-mobile one (can you tell that i really really don't want to give AT&T any money?).
edit: looks like you are right and most roms will work on the t-mobile device, you just need the correct kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

Rattles said:
time to do some more reading but i am pretty sure that i will go for the t-mobile one (can you tell that i really really don't want to give AT&T any money?).
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Lets just say if I was in your shoes and had the option of paying for the full price of the phone I would do the same thing.
I am more than satisfied with my active but if tmobile sold the active you bet I would get it

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Lets just say if I was in your shoes and had the option of paying for the full price of the phone I would do the same thing.
I am more than satisfied with my active but if tmobile sold the active you bet I would get it
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trust me, if it was up to me, i would have kicked AT&T a LONG time ago since i really do hate this company and how they treat their customers. however, since i don't actually pay the bill (my company pays for my phone and it is their account), i don't have any other option.

Rattles said:
trust me, if it was up to me, i would have kicked AT&T a LONG time ago since i really do hate this company and how they treat their customers. however, since i don't actually pay the bill (my company pays for my phone and it is their account), i don't have any other option.
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Honestly I do not mind AT&T at this point. Yes, locking down phones and cheating people out of money bugs the crap out of me... but they have been really good to me.
In the last couple of months they have:
1. Let me upgrade to the HTC One for $200 without charging one of my upgrade and waived the activation fee
2. Gave me the option of canceling all my lines early or take credits for my trouble
3. Gave me about $300+ in credits
4. Told me that I can upgrade early on my line that isn't available for an upgrade until May of 2014 (just as long as it is not an iPhone)... I'm going to save it for the next big thing.
How can I complain?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Honestly I do not mind AT&T at this point. Yes, locking down phones and cheating people out of money bugs the crap out of me... but they have been really good to me.
In the last couple of months they have:
1. Let me upgrade to the HTC One for $200 without charging one of my upgrade and waived the activation fee
2. Gave me the option of canceling all my lines early or take credits for my trouble
3. Gave me about $300+ in credits
4. Told me that I can upgrade early on my line that isn't available for an upgrade until May of 2014 (just as long as it is not an iPhone)... I'm going to save it for the next big thing.
How can I complain?
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your experience is much different than mine and i agree, hard to complain after what they did for you.

Rattles said:
your experience is much different than mine and i agree, hard to complain after what they did for you.
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Yeah I got really lucky. Talked to all the right people and they were great. I find that you have to push a little and they will help, don't accept the first thing you hear. Everyone at AT&T will give you a different answer so it can be hard. I also noticed that a lot of them have different policies and things they can do. They have no idea what the other call centers are saying.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Yeah I got really lucky. Talked to all the right people and they were great. I find that you have to push a little and they will help, don't accept the first thing you hear. Everyone at AT&T will give you a different answer so it can be hard. I also noticed that a lot of them have different policies and things they can do. They have no idea what the other call centers are saying.
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looks like i am the new owner of a used T-Mobile Galaxy S4. just bought one off of ebay for $490 unlocked with a case and spare battery.

prata said:
I bought the t-mobile s4. I run it on AT&T and have had no real problems. The one thing that I have noticed, running a few custom roms, is that LTE drops in and out.
I've also noticed some weird behavior regarding talk and data. If I take a phone call, data ceases to work for some few seconds. I'm pretty sure this is an apn setting or a rom issue. Nothing to do with the network I'm running out on or anything like that.
Sent from the depths of the ether.
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I have the issue where I can't use data while on the phone as well :/
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toxicpaulution said:
I have the issue where I can't use data while on the phone as well :/
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wait are you using the T-Mobile one like he is?

Rattles said:
wait are you using the T-Mobile one like he is?
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Nope. I'm on att with an att sim. Its weird.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
That or just run a AT&T Rom. I am under the impression they are the same device, once you confirm that I would recommend just running an AT&T rom to avoid issues. If I am wrong please someone let me know. It would have to be the non Loki version.
Their may be some international roms you can flash as well
Please double check this information before flashing, even though they seem to have almost everything in common they may differ in minor ways (radios and so on) I do not have a S4 to test and have not read around.
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I have run AT&T as well as T-Mobile ROMs. I believe you need to (I have been doing so, after getting a black screen) run a T-mobile kernel though. None of the custom roms I have flashed have radios or modems in them. Generally, custom roms don't include them, because well terrible if you flash the wrong thing.