Since Asus ICS update was a gigantic failure for me (Youtube HD videos broken, reboots, etc) I decided to 'downgrade' back to honeycomb. However that DID NOT fix the rebooting problem. And sometimes it doesn't even reboot, it hangs on the bootscreen and does nothing, and sometimes it bootloops or just doesn't wake up from sleep. Just to note I am using the Revolver ROM for honeycomb (fully updated) AND I did not have these problems with the rom before I tried ICS.
Has anyone had similar issues? If so how did you fix it?
Please, my transformer is becoming more and more useless
How did you downgrade to HC? Did you also downgrade the kernel and bootloader?
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How did you downgrade to HC? Did you also downgrade the kernel and bootloader?
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I rooted my device and used an app that installed CWM.. Kernel is downgraded when flashing revolver and I did install an overclocking kernel from revolver parts. Bootloader I don't know.
Perhaps you should try updating the bootloader? It's just a theory, but I doubt it will make you Tf any worse.
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I've got the exact same issue after the downgrading to revolver rom HC. How do you update the bootloader?
Also, I noticed that no problems occur when the device is charging, kind of wierd
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Hope someone can tell how to update the bootloader. I was going to do the same thing with an tf101 because of all the reboots but if it dont help I rather wait to see how's it going..
The issue is that something goes wrong when the tablet goes in to "deep sleep". This is the same thing that is happening in ICS.
Now, I've found a temporary 'fix' for this issue. The fix is that you don't allow it to go in to deep sleep.
There is a program called WakeLock (It's on google play, my account is not allowed to post links :/) that lets you do just that.. Open up WakeLock and check the PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK radio button and then tap the Aquire/Release Lock checkbox. Now you're set! The tablet should not reboot.
This has worked fine for me as a solution and my tablet has been running all day without problems. There IS a downside though, your tablet WILL consume more battery power since it doesn't go in to deep sleep.
As a countermeasure to that I used setcpu and a screen off profile that downclocks the CPU to around 200-300MHz and after a full day I'm at 50% battery life (13 hrs on battery), not amazing but acceptable (my usage consisted of having wifi on at all times and watching 3 episodes of community and light web browsing).
Hope this helps!
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The issue is that something goes wrong when the tablet goes in to "deep sleep". This is the same thing that is happening in ICS.
Now, I've found a temporary 'fix' for this issue. The fix is that you don't allow it to go in to deep sleep.
There is a program called WakeLock (It's on google play, my account is not allowed to post links :/) that lets you do just that.. Open up WakeLock and check the PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK radio button and then tap the Aquire/Release Lock checkbox. Now you're set! The tablet should not reboot.
This has worked fine for me as a solution and my tablet has been running all day without problems. There IS a downside though, your tablet WILL consume more battery power since it doesn't go in to deep sleep.
As a countermeasure to that I used setcpu and a screen off profile that downclocks the CPU to around 200-300MHz and after a full day I'm at 50% battery life (13 hrs on battery), not amazing but acceptable (my usage consisted of having wifi on at all times and watching 3 episodes of community and light web browsing).
Hope this helps!
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The tf101 I want to downgrade don't have that deep sleep issue.. It reboots when it's in use, often repeatedly.. And often stuck on bootanimation (eee pad screen).. So maybe I should try anyway..
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Hope someone can tell how to update the bootloader. I was going to do the same thing with an tf101 because of all the reboots but if it dont help I rather wait to see how's it going..
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In the stock firmware on the ASUS site or in the OTA updates, there will be a blob file. The bootloader can be extracted from there with the blob tools (search in the dev section).
I'd make a flashable version, but I suspect that you have a WW TF.
Ok, now this is crazy.... I thought that I was going nuts when after a complete wipe (using SuperWipe script) and re-installation of Honeycomb from scratch, I too still had the reboots!!!
How can that be? The reboots were NOT there before I installed ICS!
Is it possible that Asus updated the firmware in a specific integerated device during the ICS update that is casuing these issues or something? I don't know how else to explain people having the same issues even after reverting back to Honeycomb!
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I do remember hearing that the bootloader was updated with ICS - would that normally get reverted back to the "old" bootloader when doing a full wipe with SuperWipe script and re-installing Revolver (Honeycomb verison) from scratch?
Hmm, maybe the best thing to try would be to try the old bootloader with new ICS? Maybe that will stop the random reboots with ICS too!
Thanks!
No, most roms don't touch the bootloader. The stock roms and the OTAs will flash it. Although I'm not sure how much it could do once the rom was booted. I've noticed a few bad flashes lately, but they are usually resovled by flashing again with a full charge, overnight, plugged into the wall, not the USB port. Give that a try first.
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In the stock firmware on the ASUS site or in the OTA updates, there will be a blob file. The bootloader can be extracted from there with the blob tools (search in the dev section).
I'd make a flashable version, but I suspect that you have a WW TF.
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The one I'm going to downgrade is a US version... So if that helps, make a flashable version :thumbup:
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If there is anyway someone could package the old Honeycomb bootloader, i'd be willing to try it! I have been unable to find a way to get back to stock Honeycomb (in order to re-write the bootloader). I'm assuming that I'd need an NVFLASH version of stock honeycomb firmware to get there from here?
thanks for any help offered!
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Two days ago I disabled the apps "Android keyboard" and "polaris" . Since I use Swype on the tablet and quick office, figured it couldn't hurt to try. Usually I'd been waking up to a frozen tablet or stuck on reboot screen. Two days now no freezes. Not sure if it has rebooted while asleep, but I use it every night for several hours, and since I did that I've had no problems. Maybe just lucky two days. Someone may want to investigate that further. Wifi is set to turn off when screen does. Hope this helps someone.
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If there is anyway someone could package the old Honeycomb bootloader, i'd be willing to try it! I have been unable to find a way to get back to stock Honeycomb (in order to re-write the bootloader). I'm assuming that I'd need an NVFLASH version of stock honeycomb firmware to get there from here?
thanks for any help offered!
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What version tf do you have? US WW etc? Is your serial number nvflash compatible?
The other problem will be the system updates, but I think you can just delete dmclient?
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i have a us transformer with the exact same problems. I went from Revolver HC to revolver ICS back to Revolver HC and the ICS reboot issue is persisting. I thought it was just me, glad to see (for my sanity's sake, not your torture) that it's not just me. I know on my old Captivate, if you used a GB bootloader with certain Froyo ROMs there was bad effects. It is possible it plays into it somehow. I never flashed an official ICS update, but since the customs are based off of ICS official it is possible something was changed. I have tried different Kernels, different Daemon settings etc, and the longest i could go was 2 days with no reboot. Mine does the same thing tho - sometimes it reboots. other times it just hangs on the ASUS screen until it kills the battery. It doesn't do it while plugged in. I have super wiped, re-flashed, restored old nandroid backs ups, you name it i have tried. Any help here is much appreciated as i have started using my kindle Fire as my primary tablet because i am becoming so frustrated with the TF. It has rebooted once while in use while playing a game. The rest is while off. Once li clicked the screen off to put it down to get a drink and it rebooted. Its quite maddening at this point,
I was eventually able to downgrade my bootloader to the version that came with 8.6.5.6 (its the version I had laying around). So, I am now running the 8.6.5.6 bootloader with Revolver ICS - we'll see what happens.
First night was encouraging - over 5 hours of deep sleep last night an no issues... I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
It just makes NO sense how the reboot problem is now present even on Honeycomb, where is wasn't as issue beofore!
I now wondering if ICS either updated some firmware on some device in the TF (wifi chip, bluetooth chip, etc) or that the bootloader might be the difference....
So I now have a Honeycomb bootloader (verify bootloader version by looking at text on sceen after holding vol down + power) and ICS OS. Time will tell....
Can anyone else explain how the reboot problem could cause the issues on honeycomb as well???
Thanks!
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I was eventually able to downgrade my bootloader to the version that came with 8.6.5.6 (its the version I had laying around). So, I am now running the 8.6.5.6 bootloader with Revolver ICS - we'll see what happens.
First night was encouraging - over 5 hours of deep sleep last night an no issues... I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
It just makes NO sense how the reboot problem is now present even on Honeycomb, where is wasn't as issue beofore!
I now wondering if ICS either updated some firmware on some device in the TF (wifi chip, bluetooth chip, etc) or that the bootloader might be the difference....
So I now have a Honeycomb bootloader (verify bootloader version by looking at text on sceen after holding vol down + power) and ICS OS. Time will tell....
Can anyone else explain how the reboot problem could cause the issues on honeycomb as well???
Thanks!
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Give us an update on this later
FYI - Still going strong with ICS (Revolver) running old Honeycomb bootloader (8.6.5.6).... I don't know, but I have a good feeling about this (of course, I've had that "good feeling" about 20 times now without any success)!
I'll keep you posted!
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FYI - Still going strong with ICS (Revolver) running old Honeycomb bootloader (8.6.5.6).... I don't know, but I have a good feeling about this (of course, I've had that "good feeling" about 20 times now without any success)!
I'll keep you posted!
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Nice! How long have you been running it now?
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Hi there!
I recently bought an Asus Tf-101 and I'm really enjoying it... However, I've seen a lot of users complaining about random reboots and SODs. For the 10 days I've been using it I only experienced SOD and only if the tablet stays in stand-by for a long time, like 6~8 hours (during night time most of the times).
Because of this, and honestly I don't want to experience those RR, I'm considering returning it and getting a SL-101. However, I'm not sure if the slider as the same issues since they aren't very different.
I'll also take this shot to ask for any suggestion from you, like what other tablet should I get or workarounds to make this work properly (I don't want to root or flash the device, in first place I wan't a device whose brand was able to make it work without any major issue). I really would like to buy the Prime but it is out of budget and, here in Portugal, there is no TF300 yet and I actually wanted one with ICS...
So.. any feedback on SL-101 or any advice from you?
Best regards,
Miguel Ribeiro
I have an SL101 and i NEVER had any random reboot or a SOD at all, mines not rooted or flashed or anything. The only thing you MIGHT experience is some occasional lag.
Also, the ICS update is LATE AS HEEEELLL
I hope it helped
I have an tf101 b70 us with stock rooted rom. Since yesterday updated it to 9.2.1.24 and were ihad screen tears with youtube and rr/sod with the .21 firmware it still doesn`t show at the .24 firmware. But it is to early to say it is solved only have the .24 for about 27 hours now
Just a question, does the TF101 Dock has the same problem with the YouTube app as does the Slider? My AZERTY Slider can't mark a space if i dont press the up key first
I've got the SL-101 and I do have some Radom reboots. Seems to have just gone away for now. After I got the last update they stopped.
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If u have upgraded to 9.2.1.24 (released May 16 to US/TW), please let us know if your SOD/RR issues were fixed. Another annoying issue we had was Gmail crashing.
Negative
Nope
Still there..
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The .24 update has been up for less than 24 hours, and you folks are saying that you've already experienced a random reboot and/or sleep of death? Wow -- surprising to see it come up so quickly. I hope you guys performed the cold boot (shut down, then power+vol down and then either wait or choose the cold boot option) as we were told to do after applying the update.
So far I can't say anything about whether its fixed or not. It hasn't been nearly long enough, and won't be for at least 2 weeks. Announcing that its "solved" before running for at least that long seems silly, given the past history on this issue.
For those reporting that it isn't solved for you -- perhaps you could explain what you had happen?
Installed .24, cold booted, and have experienced one RR and Gmail issues in the first few hours of use. No SOD yet thankfully.
Well, I can now confirm on at least one unit that the RR problem is still there, too (I have 2 TF101s in my house). OTA update was applied to a stock, unrooted TF101, cold booted, and about an hour ago it rebooted on its own. It was a full reboot and did not hang on the logo screen.
dang ... I guess I will keep waiting for TF700 then, while enjoying the TF101 that I downgraded to HC few days ago ...
BTW, the TF300 seems to not be immune to SOD/RR either, bummer
any updates on screen tearing?
also, minor note to those having RR/SOD issues? you guys should seriously consider using the "test" kernel by guevor. i recommend 17 or 17c.
guess i'm gonna answer my own question....no more screen tears (for me anyway) with the new update. add that my guevor's custom kernel...and my ics is perfect.
w00ts!!
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Mine's been on for almost 12 hours. No problems so far. Hearing people still having it though, makes me anticipate it happening.
.24 update
My 101 was stable with .21 336 hours uptime. No problem with .24
SOD/RR was fixed for me in the last update. I'm scared to update to this new firmware in fear of it coming back
It's only been 24 hrs, but so far no issues with. 24.
Never had RR boot since last update and none since current update too.
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From yesterday til now is still running smoothly without any SOD/RR. I'm still monitoring.
No RR or SOD for me so far. Didn't perform a cold boot yet.
But my Gmail App is kinda buggy. Sometimes it won't load new emails. Going back from reading one to the inbox is buggy, sometimes the app stucks und I have to close it using task killer :/
Mine has been fine since the .21 update.
Hopefully the new update won't break it again
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Serial No's
Can you add your serial numbers with your updates as some are Happy and some are clearly having problems.
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But my Gmail App is kinda buggy. Sometimes it won't load new emails. Going back from reading one to the inbox is buggy, sometimes the app stucks und I have to close it using task killer :/
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NVIDIA's fault, their GLESv2 library is buggy as hell (even to the point of crashing the Dalvik VM instance under which GMail is running).
ASUS UK is saying to perform the cold boot BEFORE updating now, conflicting the instructions to do it after the update.
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All users MUST perform this before installing the new update. Post below if you have any issues with performing the cold boot and we’ll see if we can help you out.
I just picked up my TF300 on Thursday and I've been having some frequent rebooting going on.
It seems like it mostly occurs when I open a newly downloaded app and start going through the settings. Everything locks up, then it simply reboots itself. Thankfully, it doesn't take very long to reboot. When I go back in to the offending app, it generally has been working fine.
The last few big tech purchases I've made (laptop, phone, etc) it seems like they've had a few issues at first, but eventually the bugs get worked out and I stop having problems within a couple weeks.
Is this a common issue, or should I exchange it? I have 27 days left to take it back.
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I had a 16G that worked fine. I recently exchanged it for a 32G. The 32G would reboot every time I went to use it after leaving it sit for some time (a few hours?). I did a Cold Boot (holding volume + power -- see google) and it seems to be fixed now. Try that.
Sorry, I didn't specify, mine is the 32GB. Thanks for the info, trying that now.
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Mine became more stable after I got the .29 firmware update.
I had a firmware update when I first unboxed it, but it failed the instalation and it says I'm up to date now.
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Cold reboot doesn't seem to have had much of an effect. I've had three automatic reboots within the last hour or so.
Also, checked for updates and it says I'm up to date.
Edit:Just happened three more times while navigating around these forums. Plus one lockup where I had to manually reboot. Starting to think about exchanging it.
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Mine also keeps rebooting, but i bought it in Edimburgh and now i'm in Spain, so i can't replace it.
I can't use the Asus SAT because i used the "unlock" utility. This realy piss me off
I've tried to unroot, reset the device, not overclocking, even a stress test with StabilityTest app (Google Play, i can't post links), and it keeps rebooting with no sense (attached log down there).
It has rebooted using GMail, watching videos through a browser, playing games... No pattern at all.
After last reboot i have disabled the sound and it seems to be stable, but i'm not sure at all.
My only hope is that the device become fully stable with a custom rom.
Well, I said before things were ok, but now I got home and the device turned itself off. I had to hold down the power button to start it up.
Same problem here in Holland. I have a blue, 32gb 300t (boxcode TF300T-1K129A) which reboots randomly. I own this tablet for one week now and it rebooted about a 30 times or completely freezes. Already submitted an RMA to Asus.
Edit: the RMA was rejected by Asus. They said that I have to reset to factory default thirst, so I did. 10 minutes later... another rebood. I wanted to report this to Asus but in order to do so I had to send a completely new RMA report. Really fed up with Asus I returned the tablet to my retailer and got my money back (no stock of the 300T). Now I ordered a Cube U30GT. To bad, besides the reboots it was a great tablet.
Been having similar issues but I'm in vacation so I can't really do much debugging. My tablet simply shuts down randomly when put in sleep for prolonged periods of time. It'll usually happen once or twice a day with no real pattern to it. I've only had it crash on me once while I was using it, and it wasn't while launching an app or anything in particular.
I'll try the cold boot but unfortunately I'm not getting OTA updates at all... I've rooted and changed the build prop, but I haven't unlocked it. If I can't figure out what's wrong I'll just unlock it and apply updates manually I guess. I know .26 is supposed to fix certain stability issues.
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Mine also keeps rebooting, but i bought it in Edimburgh and now i'm in Spain, so i can't replace it.
I can't use the Asus SAT because i used the "unlock" utility. This realy piss me off
I've tried to unroot, reset the device, not overclocking, even a stress test with StabilityTest app (Google Play, i can't post links), and it keeps rebooting with no sense (attached log down there).
It has rebooted using GMail, watching videos through a browser, playing games... No pattern at all.
After last reboot i have disabled the sound and it seems to be stable, but i'm not sure at all.
My only hope is that the device become fully stable with a custom rom.
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What is stability test?
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What is stability test?
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It's in the Play Store. Looks like it puts the entire system through tests. It will keep running until an error occurs, then I think it creates a log.
I downloaded it and let it run for a couple minutes but I don't have the pad with me at the moment.
It said some errors are found in five minutes, but it could take up to 5 hours to find one. I'm guessing plugging it in and letting it run for a while is the best way to do it.
I might run it sometime before I get a chance to take it back to Best Buy. Just out of curiosity.
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Alot of people have fixed their problems with a factory rest. I had alot of the same issues and did the reset and now no problems at all. Worth a shot.
I've tried that and it still does it. I'm crossing my fingers that I just got a bad one and I'll be exchanging it tonight after work.
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Just to update, I got home with my replacement tablet, and I've been setting it up for the last hour. I don't want to jinx myself, but I haven't had an unwanted reboot yet, which is a vast improvement over the last one. It also successfully installed the firmware update, which evidently, the last one did not do. So far a much better experience.
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So I've had my TF700 for almost a year now and I've always had a random reboot issue. Each patch would change, but recently I've upgraded to 4.1.1 Android version (Kernel: 3.1.10-0001) (Build: JRO03.us_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228) and have noticed that the tablet seems sluggish and I'm getting more reboots. Normally if I just read or websurf it wasn't bad. After about a week or so of constant use it would freeze or reboot.
However after the upgrade I've started playing a few games and the device seems to crawl when switching from one app to another (even in performance mode) and the reboots come randomly.
Is there any advice? Should I take it back to bestbuy and trade it in while it is still under warranty?
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So I've had my TF700 for almost a year now and I've always had a random reboot issue. Each patch would change, but recently I've upgraded to 4.1.1 Android version (Kernel: 3.1.10-0001) (Build: JRO03.us_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228) and have noticed that the tablet seems sluggish and I'm getting more reboots. Normally if I just read or websurf it wasn't bad. After about a week or so of constant use it would freeze or reboot.
However after the upgrade I've started playing a few games and the device seems to crawl when switching from one app to another (even in performance mode) and the reboots come randomly.
Is there any advice? Should I take it back to bestbuy and trade it in while it is still under warranty?
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If you're not into rooting/custom rom etc. which will voids your warranty, you should take it back and exchange for another device like Samsung, nexus etc.., but not another tf700.
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If you're not into rooting/custom rom etc. which will voids your warranty, you should take it back and exchange for another device like Samsung, nexus etc.., but not another tf700.
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May I ask your reasoning for this? I have the keyboard and have loved the ability to use my USBs and the SD cards for both keyboard and device.
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May I ask your reasoning for this? I have the keyboard and have loved the ability to use my USBs and the SD cards for both keyboard and device.
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Due to Asus's design issue (slow flash memory was installed cause I/O bottle neck), it's not running well with stock rom. If you willing to unlock your device to use custom rom/kernel which make your device fast and smooth but will voids warranty. If you hold on to stock rom, you will be very frustrating about the slowness, stuttering and freezing. With tf700, if an app freeze or or hang (due to I/O poor design issue) will cause your device to reboot. Also a high percentage of hardware defects are to be considered, you better off go with Samsung or Nexus.
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Due to Asus's design issue (slow flash memory was installed cause I/O bottle neck), it's not running well with stock rom. If you willing to unlock your device to use custom rom/kernel which make your device fast and smooth but will voids warranty. If you hold on to stock rom, you will be very frustrating about the slowness, stuttering and freezing. With tf700, if an app freeze or or hang (due to I/O poor design issue) will cause your device to reboot. Also a high percentage of hardware defects are to be considered, you better off go with Samsung or Nexus.
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I see. Is it possible to fix the rebooting by Romming? I have no problem voiding warranties, but the constant reboots are getting annoying.
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I see. Is it possible to fix the rebooting by Romming? I have no problem voiding warranties, but the constant reboots are getting annoying.
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The answer is yes and no. There are multiple issues related to random rebooting. Possible reasons: JB software bug, bad apps, wifi driver and hardware. You won't know until you try to fix it. That's is why I recommend not to dive in since you already see "issue" with a brand new device. The risk is on your side more than the good.
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The answer is yes and no. There are multiple issues related to random rebooting. Possible reasons: JB software bug, bad apps, wifi driver and hardware. You won't know until you try to fix it. That's is why I recommend not to dive in since you already see "issue" with a brand new device. The risk is on your side more than the good.
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I see. Thanks for the advice.
Are there any particular tablets out there that somebody would recommend? I'm not a big fan of the Nexus, as nice as it is. I am kind of attached to my SD cards.
To be honest, there really isn't a good alternative if you want the keyboard-dock option.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that most TF700 owners don't have "random" reboots.
However, before unlocking your device, please tell us a little more about your setup - do you have tons of apps installed? What about apps like System Tuner? I'd recommend running as close to stock as possible (least apps installed) and see if the reboots still occur.
Just to clarify, you've had random reboots from day one of owning the device?
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To be honest, there really isn't a good alternative if you want the keyboard-dock option.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that most TF700 owners don't have "random" reboots.
However, before unlocking your device, please tell us a little more about your setup - do you have tons of apps installed? What about apps like System Tuner? I'd recommend running as close to stock as possible (least apps installed) and see if the reboots still occur.
Just to clarify, you've had random reboots from day one of owning the device?
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Just to add my two cents....
I bought a TF700 last summer. It was fine until the latest round of OTA upgrades from Asus in November or December; then I started getting random reboots as well, and the tablet became slow as a slug in molasses even in performance mode (which I have to set as soon as I boot in order to even get minimally-acceptable performance). I too hate to give up the keyboard and extra storage, but I have to admit this thing has been a disappointment.
mudge
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Just to add my two cents....
I bought a TF700 last summer. It was fine until the latest round of OTA upgrades from Asus in November or December; then I started getting random reboots as well, and the tablet became slow as a slug in molasses even in performance mode (which I have to set as soon as I boot in order to even get minimally-acceptable performance). I too hate to give up the keyboard and extra storage, but I have to admit this thing has been a disappointment.
mudge
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Did you try a fresh install after this happened? Obviously, that kind of slowness is not even close to normal, even for a completely stock device...
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jtrosky said:
To be honest, there really isn't a good alternative if you want the keyboard-dock option.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that most TF700 owners don't have "random" reboots.
However, before unlocking your device, please tell us a little more about your setup - do you have tons of apps installed? What about apps like System Tuner? I'd recommend running as close to stock as possible (least apps installed) and see if the reboots still occur.
Just to clarify, you've had random reboots from day one of owning the device?
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Well the random reboots came after the second firmware upgrade. I kind of just figured that it had to deal with until the next firmware upgrade. I tend not to install a ton of applications on the device. I have the google apps (gmail, voice, talk, authenticator, drive, sky maps, skydrive, maps), Games (Rage of Bahamut, Transformers Legends, Tegra Zone), Books (Kindle, Adobe Reader, Comixology), Web (Youtube, Chrome, Netflix) and Kaspersky.
I have held off on the firmware upgrades until I was certain that there wouldn't be a major firmware upgrades coming down the line. The reboots weren't bad. Usually if I left the comixology, kindle, and ran mutliple games for a long time with the system would other slow down or lock up and I would just reboot. After this firmware it would just reboot if I opened a single app and shut off the screen. If it didn't reboot, when I unlocked the screen the device would just become incredibly slow.
I just got off the phone with Best Buy and they said the only thing I would be able to trade for is another TF700 with the warranty I have.
jtrosky said:
Did you try a fresh install after this happened? Obviously, that kind of slowness is not even close to normal, even for a completely stock device...
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I'm going to be honest with saying I have been nervous about doing this before I talked to others to see if this was a normal event for the device.
DarqAnshin said:
I'm going to be honest with saying I have been nervous about doing this before I talked to others to see if this was a normal event for the device.
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I would definitely not call random rebooting "normal" for the TF700. Obviously, there are some folks that are having issues with random reboots, but I think that is a very small percentage. To be honest, you can do a google search for just about any device + "random reboot" and you'll get results for almost every device known to mankind. I also believe that the problem can usually be fixed by starting clean and slowly introducing your needed apps. Yes, it's a pain in the a$$ and you shouldn't need to do it, but I truly believe that most of these issue can be fixed with a little effort.
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I would definitely not call random rebooting "normal" for the TF700. Obviously, there are some folks that are having issues with random reboots, but I think that is a very small percentage. To be honest, you can do a google search for just about any device + "random reboot" and you'll get results for almost every device known to mankind. I also believe that the problem can usually be fixed by starting clean and slowly introducing your needed apps. Yes, it's a pain in the a$$ and you shouldn't need to do it, but I truly believe that most of these issue can be fixed with a little effort.
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Is there an instruction manual for a clean installation?
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Is there an instruction manual for a clean installation?
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First download Asus full frimware and unzip the zip file to the root of your microsdcard. Then go into settings -> backup and reset, tab on Factory data reset this will auto boot into your stock recovery and it will wipe data. OR you can boot into stock recovery and select "wipe data". Once done boot int recovery and just wait for few second, it you auto flash the Asus full firmware.
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Did you try a fresh install after this happened? Obviously, that kind of slowness is not even close to normal, even for a completely stock device...
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No, I haven't yet. I keep hoping there would be another OTA from Asus that would fix the problem. I've rooted my device, but that's all. I've not even installed recovery, and the bootloader is still locked. The reboots don't come often enough that they don't really bother me anymore. What really bugs me is that the tablet was working great until that pair of OTA's at the end of last year. Up till that time I had no reboots and everything was working smoothly. Like an idiot I installed them and now aside from the reboots the response lag is terrible. I can tap on the clock to bring up the menu and it can take up to 5 seconds before the menu even appears.
I'll get around to doing a fresh install one of these days, but I've been too busy.
mudge
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I keep hoping there would be another OTA from Asus that would fix the problem.
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I wouldn't count on it, since it is not a "known issue" with the TF700, as far as ASUS is concerned...
What really bugs me is that the tablet was working great until that pair of OTA's at the end of last year.
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That might suggest it's an app compatibility issue introduced by the update -- I hope so for your sake. (I've had that happen a few times, too.)
Up till that time I had no reboots and everything was working smoothly. Like an idiot
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Well... I would hardly call you an idiot for installing a manufacturer-provided update. I must admit I am slowly weening myself off of the Ï have to have the brandnewest bestest EVA update" because I have spent so much time fixing whatever issues a new update brought -- I am slowly beginning to understand the motto if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
I installed them and now aside from the reboots the response lag is terrible. I can tap on the clock to bring up the menu and it can take up to 5 seconds before the menu even appears.
I'll get around to doing a fresh install one of these days, but I've been too busy.
mudge
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Given you're still sporting stock unlocked, that's the only route available... for now. Once you unlock and go custom, you'll be happier. :good: Hold on, my friends.
I've flashed Cromi-X v4.5 deodexed to this thing. It runs much faster and smoother after doing that, but every time I go to use the thing if it hasn't been plugged in for over a day or 2 it's completely dead. I'm about ready to ditch the device because of it. I've disabled the wifi update when asleep- beyond that i'm not sure what else to do...Help!
Hold the power button down and select "Shut Down" when you arent planning on using it? Its hard to narrow down exactly what your issue is without more info. Different apps you installed may prevent deep sleep and keep it wake locked. Try downloading a battery monitor and see what exactly is killing it.
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I've flashed Cromi-X v4.5 deodexed to this thing. It runs much faster and smoother after doing that, but every time I go to use the thing if it hasn't been plugged in for over a day or 2 it's completely dead. I'm about ready to ditch the device because of it. I've disabled the wifi update when asleep- beyond that i'm not sure what else to do...Help!
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Like the other guy said. if you arent gonna use it for awhile just turn it off. Otherwise that is perfectly normal battery life for the device. Mine lasts me one day without the dock under normal use. I plug mine in every night.
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