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Since Asus ICS update was a gigantic failure for me (Youtube HD videos broken, reboots, etc) I decided to 'downgrade' back to honeycomb. However that DID NOT fix the rebooting problem. And sometimes it doesn't even reboot, it hangs on the bootscreen and does nothing, and sometimes it bootloops or just doesn't wake up from sleep. Just to note I am using the Revolver ROM for honeycomb (fully updated) AND I did not have these problems with the rom before I tried ICS.
Has anyone had similar issues? If so how did you fix it?
Please, my transformer is becoming more and more useless
How did you downgrade to HC? Did you also downgrade the kernel and bootloader?
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How did you downgrade to HC? Did you also downgrade the kernel and bootloader?
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I rooted my device and used an app that installed CWM.. Kernel is downgraded when flashing revolver and I did install an overclocking kernel from revolver parts. Bootloader I don't know.
Perhaps you should try updating the bootloader? It's just a theory, but I doubt it will make you Tf any worse.
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I've got the exact same issue after the downgrading to revolver rom HC. How do you update the bootloader?
Also, I noticed that no problems occur when the device is charging, kind of wierd
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Hope someone can tell how to update the bootloader. I was going to do the same thing with an tf101 because of all the reboots but if it dont help I rather wait to see how's it going..
The issue is that something goes wrong when the tablet goes in to "deep sleep". This is the same thing that is happening in ICS.
Now, I've found a temporary 'fix' for this issue. The fix is that you don't allow it to go in to deep sleep.
There is a program called WakeLock (It's on google play, my account is not allowed to post links :/) that lets you do just that.. Open up WakeLock and check the PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK radio button and then tap the Aquire/Release Lock checkbox. Now you're set! The tablet should not reboot.
This has worked fine for me as a solution and my tablet has been running all day without problems. There IS a downside though, your tablet WILL consume more battery power since it doesn't go in to deep sleep.
As a countermeasure to that I used setcpu and a screen off profile that downclocks the CPU to around 200-300MHz and after a full day I'm at 50% battery life (13 hrs on battery), not amazing but acceptable (my usage consisted of having wifi on at all times and watching 3 episodes of community and light web browsing).
Hope this helps!
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The issue is that something goes wrong when the tablet goes in to "deep sleep". This is the same thing that is happening in ICS.
Now, I've found a temporary 'fix' for this issue. The fix is that you don't allow it to go in to deep sleep.
There is a program called WakeLock (It's on google play, my account is not allowed to post links :/) that lets you do just that.. Open up WakeLock and check the PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK radio button and then tap the Aquire/Release Lock checkbox. Now you're set! The tablet should not reboot.
This has worked fine for me as a solution and my tablet has been running all day without problems. There IS a downside though, your tablet WILL consume more battery power since it doesn't go in to deep sleep.
As a countermeasure to that I used setcpu and a screen off profile that downclocks the CPU to around 200-300MHz and after a full day I'm at 50% battery life (13 hrs on battery), not amazing but acceptable (my usage consisted of having wifi on at all times and watching 3 episodes of community and light web browsing).
Hope this helps!
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The tf101 I want to downgrade don't have that deep sleep issue.. It reboots when it's in use, often repeatedly.. And often stuck on bootanimation (eee pad screen).. So maybe I should try anyway..
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Hope someone can tell how to update the bootloader. I was going to do the same thing with an tf101 because of all the reboots but if it dont help I rather wait to see how's it going..
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In the stock firmware on the ASUS site or in the OTA updates, there will be a blob file. The bootloader can be extracted from there with the blob tools (search in the dev section).
I'd make a flashable version, but I suspect that you have a WW TF.
Ok, now this is crazy.... I thought that I was going nuts when after a complete wipe (using SuperWipe script) and re-installation of Honeycomb from scratch, I too still had the reboots!!!
How can that be? The reboots were NOT there before I installed ICS!
Is it possible that Asus updated the firmware in a specific integerated device during the ICS update that is casuing these issues or something? I don't know how else to explain people having the same issues even after reverting back to Honeycomb!
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I do remember hearing that the bootloader was updated with ICS - would that normally get reverted back to the "old" bootloader when doing a full wipe with SuperWipe script and re-installing Revolver (Honeycomb verison) from scratch?
Hmm, maybe the best thing to try would be to try the old bootloader with new ICS? Maybe that will stop the random reboots with ICS too!
Thanks!
No, most roms don't touch the bootloader. The stock roms and the OTAs will flash it. Although I'm not sure how much it could do once the rom was booted. I've noticed a few bad flashes lately, but they are usually resovled by flashing again with a full charge, overnight, plugged into the wall, not the USB port. Give that a try first.
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In the stock firmware on the ASUS site or in the OTA updates, there will be a blob file. The bootloader can be extracted from there with the blob tools (search in the dev section).
I'd make a flashable version, but I suspect that you have a WW TF.
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The one I'm going to downgrade is a US version... So if that helps, make a flashable version :thumbup:
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If there is anyway someone could package the old Honeycomb bootloader, i'd be willing to try it! I have been unable to find a way to get back to stock Honeycomb (in order to re-write the bootloader). I'm assuming that I'd need an NVFLASH version of stock honeycomb firmware to get there from here?
thanks for any help offered!
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Two days ago I disabled the apps "Android keyboard" and "polaris" . Since I use Swype on the tablet and quick office, figured it couldn't hurt to try. Usually I'd been waking up to a frozen tablet or stuck on reboot screen. Two days now no freezes. Not sure if it has rebooted while asleep, but I use it every night for several hours, and since I did that I've had no problems. Maybe just lucky two days. Someone may want to investigate that further. Wifi is set to turn off when screen does. Hope this helps someone.
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If there is anyway someone could package the old Honeycomb bootloader, i'd be willing to try it! I have been unable to find a way to get back to stock Honeycomb (in order to re-write the bootloader). I'm assuming that I'd need an NVFLASH version of stock honeycomb firmware to get there from here?
thanks for any help offered!
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What version tf do you have? US WW etc? Is your serial number nvflash compatible?
The other problem will be the system updates, but I think you can just delete dmclient?
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i have a us transformer with the exact same problems. I went from Revolver HC to revolver ICS back to Revolver HC and the ICS reboot issue is persisting. I thought it was just me, glad to see (for my sanity's sake, not your torture) that it's not just me. I know on my old Captivate, if you used a GB bootloader with certain Froyo ROMs there was bad effects. It is possible it plays into it somehow. I never flashed an official ICS update, but since the customs are based off of ICS official it is possible something was changed. I have tried different Kernels, different Daemon settings etc, and the longest i could go was 2 days with no reboot. Mine does the same thing tho - sometimes it reboots. other times it just hangs on the ASUS screen until it kills the battery. It doesn't do it while plugged in. I have super wiped, re-flashed, restored old nandroid backs ups, you name it i have tried. Any help here is much appreciated as i have started using my kindle Fire as my primary tablet because i am becoming so frustrated with the TF. It has rebooted once while in use while playing a game. The rest is while off. Once li clicked the screen off to put it down to get a drink and it rebooted. Its quite maddening at this point,
I was eventually able to downgrade my bootloader to the version that came with 8.6.5.6 (its the version I had laying around). So, I am now running the 8.6.5.6 bootloader with Revolver ICS - we'll see what happens.
First night was encouraging - over 5 hours of deep sleep last night an no issues... I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
It just makes NO sense how the reboot problem is now present even on Honeycomb, where is wasn't as issue beofore!
I now wondering if ICS either updated some firmware on some device in the TF (wifi chip, bluetooth chip, etc) or that the bootloader might be the difference....
So I now have a Honeycomb bootloader (verify bootloader version by looking at text on sceen after holding vol down + power) and ICS OS. Time will tell....
Can anyone else explain how the reboot problem could cause the issues on honeycomb as well???
Thanks!
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I was eventually able to downgrade my bootloader to the version that came with 8.6.5.6 (its the version I had laying around). So, I am now running the 8.6.5.6 bootloader with Revolver ICS - we'll see what happens.
First night was encouraging - over 5 hours of deep sleep last night an no issues... I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
It just makes NO sense how the reboot problem is now present even on Honeycomb, where is wasn't as issue beofore!
I now wondering if ICS either updated some firmware on some device in the TF (wifi chip, bluetooth chip, etc) or that the bootloader might be the difference....
So I now have a Honeycomb bootloader (verify bootloader version by looking at text on sceen after holding vol down + power) and ICS OS. Time will tell....
Can anyone else explain how the reboot problem could cause the issues on honeycomb as well???
Thanks!
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Give us an update on this later
FYI - Still going strong with ICS (Revolver) running old Honeycomb bootloader (8.6.5.6).... I don't know, but I have a good feeling about this (of course, I've had that "good feeling" about 20 times now without any success)!
I'll keep you posted!
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FYI - Still going strong with ICS (Revolver) running old Honeycomb bootloader (8.6.5.6).... I don't know, but I have a good feeling about this (of course, I've had that "good feeling" about 20 times now without any success)!
I'll keep you posted!
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Nice! How long have you been running it now?
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I just picked up my TF300 on Thursday and I've been having some frequent rebooting going on.
It seems like it mostly occurs when I open a newly downloaded app and start going through the settings. Everything locks up, then it simply reboots itself. Thankfully, it doesn't take very long to reboot. When I go back in to the offending app, it generally has been working fine.
The last few big tech purchases I've made (laptop, phone, etc) it seems like they've had a few issues at first, but eventually the bugs get worked out and I stop having problems within a couple weeks.
Is this a common issue, or should I exchange it? I have 27 days left to take it back.
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I had a 16G that worked fine. I recently exchanged it for a 32G. The 32G would reboot every time I went to use it after leaving it sit for some time (a few hours?). I did a Cold Boot (holding volume + power -- see google) and it seems to be fixed now. Try that.
Sorry, I didn't specify, mine is the 32GB. Thanks for the info, trying that now.
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Mine became more stable after I got the .29 firmware update.
I had a firmware update when I first unboxed it, but it failed the instalation and it says I'm up to date now.
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Cold reboot doesn't seem to have had much of an effect. I've had three automatic reboots within the last hour or so.
Also, checked for updates and it says I'm up to date.
Edit:Just happened three more times while navigating around these forums. Plus one lockup where I had to manually reboot. Starting to think about exchanging it.
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Mine also keeps rebooting, but i bought it in Edimburgh and now i'm in Spain, so i can't replace it.
I can't use the Asus SAT because i used the "unlock" utility. This realy piss me off
I've tried to unroot, reset the device, not overclocking, even a stress test with StabilityTest app (Google Play, i can't post links), and it keeps rebooting with no sense (attached log down there).
It has rebooted using GMail, watching videos through a browser, playing games... No pattern at all.
After last reboot i have disabled the sound and it seems to be stable, but i'm not sure at all.
My only hope is that the device become fully stable with a custom rom.
Well, I said before things were ok, but now I got home and the device turned itself off. I had to hold down the power button to start it up.
Same problem here in Holland. I have a blue, 32gb 300t (boxcode TF300T-1K129A) which reboots randomly. I own this tablet for one week now and it rebooted about a 30 times or completely freezes. Already submitted an RMA to Asus.
Edit: the RMA was rejected by Asus. They said that I have to reset to factory default thirst, so I did. 10 minutes later... another rebood. I wanted to report this to Asus but in order to do so I had to send a completely new RMA report. Really fed up with Asus I returned the tablet to my retailer and got my money back (no stock of the 300T). Now I ordered a Cube U30GT. To bad, besides the reboots it was a great tablet.
Been having similar issues but I'm in vacation so I can't really do much debugging. My tablet simply shuts down randomly when put in sleep for prolonged periods of time. It'll usually happen once or twice a day with no real pattern to it. I've only had it crash on me once while I was using it, and it wasn't while launching an app or anything in particular.
I'll try the cold boot but unfortunately I'm not getting OTA updates at all... I've rooted and changed the build prop, but I haven't unlocked it. If I can't figure out what's wrong I'll just unlock it and apply updates manually I guess. I know .26 is supposed to fix certain stability issues.
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Mine also keeps rebooting, but i bought it in Edimburgh and now i'm in Spain, so i can't replace it.
I can't use the Asus SAT because i used the "unlock" utility. This realy piss me off
I've tried to unroot, reset the device, not overclocking, even a stress test with StabilityTest app (Google Play, i can't post links), and it keeps rebooting with no sense (attached log down there).
It has rebooted using GMail, watching videos through a browser, playing games... No pattern at all.
After last reboot i have disabled the sound and it seems to be stable, but i'm not sure at all.
My only hope is that the device become fully stable with a custom rom.
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What is stability test?
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What is stability test?
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It's in the Play Store. Looks like it puts the entire system through tests. It will keep running until an error occurs, then I think it creates a log.
I downloaded it and let it run for a couple minutes but I don't have the pad with me at the moment.
It said some errors are found in five minutes, but it could take up to 5 hours to find one. I'm guessing plugging it in and letting it run for a while is the best way to do it.
I might run it sometime before I get a chance to take it back to Best Buy. Just out of curiosity.
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Alot of people have fixed their problems with a factory rest. I had alot of the same issues and did the reset and now no problems at all. Worth a shot.
I've tried that and it still does it. I'm crossing my fingers that I just got a bad one and I'll be exchanging it tonight after work.
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Just to update, I got home with my replacement tablet, and I've been setting it up for the last hour. I don't want to jinx myself, but I haven't had an unwanted reboot yet, which is a vast improvement over the last one. It also successfully installed the firmware update, which evidently, the last one did not do. So far a much better experience.
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After JB upgrade, my tablet started consuming more RAM. And it keeps restarting. Even though I dont do hard stuff it freezes and try to restart but it gets stuck at ASUS screen. That thing keep turning and turning unless I press the restart button or the battery hits 0. There was no such thing before JB upgrade. And since this is a quad core tablet is it normal? All I'm doing is just surfing the net or watching videos on YouTube + 1-2 tasks. I did much harder things before JB upgrade but there was no such thing as restarting or freezing. Could it be because of the JB upgrade or did I do something wrong with my tablet. Anybody else has this problem? Is there anything I can do to fix that. Should I change my tablet or wait for a new upgrade or what? Would rooting my tablet fix the situation?
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After JB upgrade, my tablet started consuming more RAM. And it keeps restarting. Even though I dont do hard stuff it freezes and try to restart but it gets stuck at ASUS screen. That thing keep turning and turning unless I press the restart button or the battery hits 0. There was no such thing before JB upgrade. And since this is a quad core tablet is it normal? All I'm doing is just surfing the net or watching videos on YouTube + 1-2 tasks. I did much harder things before JB upgrade but there was no such thing as restarting or freezing. Could it be because of the JB upgrade or did I do something wrong with my tablet. Anybody else has this problem? Is there anything I can do to fix that. Should I change my tablet or wait for a new upgrade or what? Would rooting my tablet fix the situation?
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You may want to try the 3 factory resets trick if you haven't already.
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You may want to try the 3 factory resets trick if you haven't already.
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What is that and how do i do that?
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grumm said:
What is that and how do i do that?
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Be advised the factory reset will wipe the internal SD card and bring your tablet back to a factory state.
If you want to proceed:
Tap on the notification bar in the lower right corner (where the time is displayed.)
Tap on the settings icon (looks like a gear or cog.)
When the settings menu appears look for "backup & reset"
Choose "Factory data reset" (under PERSONAL DATA.)
The following message will appear:
This will erase all data from your tablet's internal
storage, including:
Your Google account
System and app data and settings
Downloaded apps
Music
Photos
Other user data
You are currently signed into the following accounts:
[email protected] (that's if you are signed into Google)
Do this tree times...
After which you will be back to square one with your tablet.
Good luck!
i had this exact same issue. I was on the verge of selling it and getting something else. Then someone convinced me to root. I rooted on Thursday and have not had any issues at all. Its like i have a brand new tablet. Rooting this thing is the way to go. I know you are probably thinking why should you have to root in order to get the device to function as it should. I thought the same exact thing.
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i had this exact same issue. I was on the verge of selling it and getting something else. Then someone convinced me to root. I rooted on Thursday and have not had any issues at all. Its like i have a brand new tablet. Rooting this thing is the way to go. I know you are probably thinking why should you have to root in order to get the device to function as it should. I thought the same exact thing.
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I'm so glad to hear that it's working for you!
I didn't want to root because of the warranty issues. I know it can be reversed but I just didn't want to struggle with that. I'll try the 3 factory resets first. If it doesn't help me, I'll have to root it I guess. Thanks for the answers.
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So I've had my TF700 for almost a year now and I've always had a random reboot issue. Each patch would change, but recently I've upgraded to 4.1.1 Android version (Kernel: 3.1.10-0001) (Build: JRO03.us_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228) and have noticed that the tablet seems sluggish and I'm getting more reboots. Normally if I just read or websurf it wasn't bad. After about a week or so of constant use it would freeze or reboot.
However after the upgrade I've started playing a few games and the device seems to crawl when switching from one app to another (even in performance mode) and the reboots come randomly.
Is there any advice? Should I take it back to bestbuy and trade it in while it is still under warranty?
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So I've had my TF700 for almost a year now and I've always had a random reboot issue. Each patch would change, but recently I've upgraded to 4.1.1 Android version (Kernel: 3.1.10-0001) (Build: JRO03.us_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228) and have noticed that the tablet seems sluggish and I'm getting more reboots. Normally if I just read or websurf it wasn't bad. After about a week or so of constant use it would freeze or reboot.
However after the upgrade I've started playing a few games and the device seems to crawl when switching from one app to another (even in performance mode) and the reboots come randomly.
Is there any advice? Should I take it back to bestbuy and trade it in while it is still under warranty?
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If you're not into rooting/custom rom etc. which will voids your warranty, you should take it back and exchange for another device like Samsung, nexus etc.., but not another tf700.
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If you're not into rooting/custom rom etc. which will voids your warranty, you should take it back and exchange for another device like Samsung, nexus etc.., but not another tf700.
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May I ask your reasoning for this? I have the keyboard and have loved the ability to use my USBs and the SD cards for both keyboard and device.
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May I ask your reasoning for this? I have the keyboard and have loved the ability to use my USBs and the SD cards for both keyboard and device.
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Due to Asus's design issue (slow flash memory was installed cause I/O bottle neck), it's not running well with stock rom. If you willing to unlock your device to use custom rom/kernel which make your device fast and smooth but will voids warranty. If you hold on to stock rom, you will be very frustrating about the slowness, stuttering and freezing. With tf700, if an app freeze or or hang (due to I/O poor design issue) will cause your device to reboot. Also a high percentage of hardware defects are to be considered, you better off go with Samsung or Nexus.
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Due to Asus's design issue (slow flash memory was installed cause I/O bottle neck), it's not running well with stock rom. If you willing to unlock your device to use custom rom/kernel which make your device fast and smooth but will voids warranty. If you hold on to stock rom, you will be very frustrating about the slowness, stuttering and freezing. With tf700, if an app freeze or or hang (due to I/O poor design issue) will cause your device to reboot. Also a high percentage of hardware defects are to be considered, you better off go with Samsung or Nexus.
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I see. Is it possible to fix the rebooting by Romming? I have no problem voiding warranties, but the constant reboots are getting annoying.
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I see. Is it possible to fix the rebooting by Romming? I have no problem voiding warranties, but the constant reboots are getting annoying.
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The answer is yes and no. There are multiple issues related to random rebooting. Possible reasons: JB software bug, bad apps, wifi driver and hardware. You won't know until you try to fix it. That's is why I recommend not to dive in since you already see "issue" with a brand new device. The risk is on your side more than the good.
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The answer is yes and no. There are multiple issues related to random rebooting. Possible reasons: JB software bug, bad apps, wifi driver and hardware. You won't know until you try to fix it. That's is why I recommend not to dive in since you already see "issue" with a brand new device. The risk is on your side more than the good.
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I see. Thanks for the advice.
Are there any particular tablets out there that somebody would recommend? I'm not a big fan of the Nexus, as nice as it is. I am kind of attached to my SD cards.
To be honest, there really isn't a good alternative if you want the keyboard-dock option.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that most TF700 owners don't have "random" reboots.
However, before unlocking your device, please tell us a little more about your setup - do you have tons of apps installed? What about apps like System Tuner? I'd recommend running as close to stock as possible (least apps installed) and see if the reboots still occur.
Just to clarify, you've had random reboots from day one of owning the device?
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To be honest, there really isn't a good alternative if you want the keyboard-dock option.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that most TF700 owners don't have "random" reboots.
However, before unlocking your device, please tell us a little more about your setup - do you have tons of apps installed? What about apps like System Tuner? I'd recommend running as close to stock as possible (least apps installed) and see if the reboots still occur.
Just to clarify, you've had random reboots from day one of owning the device?
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Just to add my two cents....
I bought a TF700 last summer. It was fine until the latest round of OTA upgrades from Asus in November or December; then I started getting random reboots as well, and the tablet became slow as a slug in molasses even in performance mode (which I have to set as soon as I boot in order to even get minimally-acceptable performance). I too hate to give up the keyboard and extra storage, but I have to admit this thing has been a disappointment.
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Just to add my two cents....
I bought a TF700 last summer. It was fine until the latest round of OTA upgrades from Asus in November or December; then I started getting random reboots as well, and the tablet became slow as a slug in molasses even in performance mode (which I have to set as soon as I boot in order to even get minimally-acceptable performance). I too hate to give up the keyboard and extra storage, but I have to admit this thing has been a disappointment.
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Did you try a fresh install after this happened? Obviously, that kind of slowness is not even close to normal, even for a completely stock device...
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To be honest, there really isn't a good alternative if you want the keyboard-dock option.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that most TF700 owners don't have "random" reboots.
However, before unlocking your device, please tell us a little more about your setup - do you have tons of apps installed? What about apps like System Tuner? I'd recommend running as close to stock as possible (least apps installed) and see if the reboots still occur.
Just to clarify, you've had random reboots from day one of owning the device?
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Well the random reboots came after the second firmware upgrade. I kind of just figured that it had to deal with until the next firmware upgrade. I tend not to install a ton of applications on the device. I have the google apps (gmail, voice, talk, authenticator, drive, sky maps, skydrive, maps), Games (Rage of Bahamut, Transformers Legends, Tegra Zone), Books (Kindle, Adobe Reader, Comixology), Web (Youtube, Chrome, Netflix) and Kaspersky.
I have held off on the firmware upgrades until I was certain that there wouldn't be a major firmware upgrades coming down the line. The reboots weren't bad. Usually if I left the comixology, kindle, and ran mutliple games for a long time with the system would other slow down or lock up and I would just reboot. After this firmware it would just reboot if I opened a single app and shut off the screen. If it didn't reboot, when I unlocked the screen the device would just become incredibly slow.
I just got off the phone with Best Buy and they said the only thing I would be able to trade for is another TF700 with the warranty I have.
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Did you try a fresh install after this happened? Obviously, that kind of slowness is not even close to normal, even for a completely stock device...
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I'm going to be honest with saying I have been nervous about doing this before I talked to others to see if this was a normal event for the device.
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I'm going to be honest with saying I have been nervous about doing this before I talked to others to see if this was a normal event for the device.
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I would definitely not call random rebooting "normal" for the TF700. Obviously, there are some folks that are having issues with random reboots, but I think that is a very small percentage. To be honest, you can do a google search for just about any device + "random reboot" and you'll get results for almost every device known to mankind. I also believe that the problem can usually be fixed by starting clean and slowly introducing your needed apps. Yes, it's a pain in the a$$ and you shouldn't need to do it, but I truly believe that most of these issue can be fixed with a little effort.
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I would definitely not call random rebooting "normal" for the TF700. Obviously, there are some folks that are having issues with random reboots, but I think that is a very small percentage. To be honest, you can do a google search for just about any device + "random reboot" and you'll get results for almost every device known to mankind. I also believe that the problem can usually be fixed by starting clean and slowly introducing your needed apps. Yes, it's a pain in the a$$ and you shouldn't need to do it, but I truly believe that most of these issue can be fixed with a little effort.
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Is there an instruction manual for a clean installation?
DarqAnshin said:
Is there an instruction manual for a clean installation?
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First download Asus full frimware and unzip the zip file to the root of your microsdcard. Then go into settings -> backup and reset, tab on Factory data reset this will auto boot into your stock recovery and it will wipe data. OR you can boot into stock recovery and select "wipe data". Once done boot int recovery and just wait for few second, it you auto flash the Asus full firmware.
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Did you try a fresh install after this happened? Obviously, that kind of slowness is not even close to normal, even for a completely stock device...
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No, I haven't yet. I keep hoping there would be another OTA from Asus that would fix the problem. I've rooted my device, but that's all. I've not even installed recovery, and the bootloader is still locked. The reboots don't come often enough that they don't really bother me anymore. What really bugs me is that the tablet was working great until that pair of OTA's at the end of last year. Up till that time I had no reboots and everything was working smoothly. Like an idiot I installed them and now aside from the reboots the response lag is terrible. I can tap on the clock to bring up the menu and it can take up to 5 seconds before the menu even appears.
I'll get around to doing a fresh install one of these days, but I've been too busy.
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I keep hoping there would be another OTA from Asus that would fix the problem.
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I wouldn't count on it, since it is not a "known issue" with the TF700, as far as ASUS is concerned...
What really bugs me is that the tablet was working great until that pair of OTA's at the end of last year.
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That might suggest it's an app compatibility issue introduced by the update -- I hope so for your sake. (I've had that happen a few times, too.)
Up till that time I had no reboots and everything was working smoothly. Like an idiot
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Well... I would hardly call you an idiot for installing a manufacturer-provided update. I must admit I am slowly weening myself off of the Ï have to have the brandnewest bestest EVA update" because I have spent so much time fixing whatever issues a new update brought -- I am slowly beginning to understand the motto if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
I installed them and now aside from the reboots the response lag is terrible. I can tap on the clock to bring up the menu and it can take up to 5 seconds before the menu even appears.
I'll get around to doing a fresh install one of these days, but I've been too busy.
mudge
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Given you're still sporting stock unlocked, that's the only route available... for now. Once you unlock and go custom, you'll be happier. :good: Hold on, my friends.
Since the OTA update before last my WiFi has been weird, whenever I turn it on and connect to a network, after a random period anywhere between 1 sec and over an hour it will disconnect and completely refuse to reconnect, saying failed to connect. The only way to reconnect is to cycle the WiFi power completely. I was hoping that the last update would correct the problem, but no luck. My system is currently fully stock, no unlocking or subversion so far.
Any ideas or fixes?
Attached is the relevant system information.
UPDATE : I'd like to refine the problem a little; when the problem manifests, the tablet completely fails to recognize that there are any networks in range at all. Once again, it's solved by only a quick cycle though.
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Try turning wifi optimization off: Settings > WiFi, tap 3 dots upper right, select 'Advanced'
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Well, I gave it a try, but there was no change, so WiFi optimization is not the answer. :-\
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OutlawV said:
Well, I gave it a try, but there was no change, so WiFi optimization is not the answer. :-\
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I've had this same problem a few times too. Cold-booting three times in a row then running an FMR memory clean usually works to fix it for me. But I'm on 4.1.1
Also make sure your wifi isn't getting turned off thru Asus power saver settings or another battery saver app. Flaky wifi routers or congested local wifi traffic with overlapping bands (channels) are notorious for randomly disconnecting wifi, but if its only after the last update then that probably has nothing to do with it unless your neighbor just installed a wireless router on or near your channel. Wifi Analyzer is a great app for weeding that sort of thing out.
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Well, I gave it a try, but there was no change, so WiFi optimization is not the answer. :-\
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Are you sure it's not a router problem? Does it happen connecting to any network?
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Are you sure it's not a router problem? Does it happen connecting to any network?
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I have the same problem with both my home router (Typically less than 10 feet away) and with my mobile hot spot. It started having this problem on each different network in the same time period, so I've ruled out the router. I've also now noticed that it does get worse with time until I can't even connect until I reboot.
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elfaure said:
I've had this same problem a few times too. Cold-booting three times in a row then running an FMR memory clean usually works to fix it for me. But I'm on 4.1.1
Also make sure your wifi isn't getting turned off thru Asus power saver settings or another battery saver app. Flaky wifi routers or congested local wifi traffic with overlapping bands (channels) are notorious for randomly disconnecting wifi, but if its only after the last update then that probably has nothing to do with it unless your neighbor just installed a wireless router on or near your channel. Wifi Analyzer is a great app for weeding that sort of thing out.
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I've done a quick scan of my nearby networks just in case, and since I am typically within the ten feet of my fairly powerful router, it's got a good 40+ dB on anything nearby. I also have the problem on my cellular hotspot in different places, so I'm ruling out the router.
I'm running only the stock power saver setting, I'll try shutting that off next time it starts again, to see if there's any effect, but the WiFi doesn't shut off, it just stops functioning correctly.
I've also come to find that the problem gets worse with uptime, 20 minutes ago I was getting 20 sec connections, until a reboot, now I expect to have hour+ functional periods.
I know what a cold boot is, but not completely familiar on this kind of device.
Do I need to shut down and leave it off for a few minutes to perform a cold boot?
Also, what is an FMR memory clean, and can I do that without root?
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I've done a quick scan of my nearby networks just in case, and since I am typically within the ten feet of my fairly powerful router, it's got a good 40+ dB on anything nearby. I also have the problem on my cellular hotspot in different places, so I'm ruling out the router.
I'm running only the stock power saver setting, I'll try shutting that off next time it starts again, to see if there's any effect, but the WiFi doesn't shut off, it just stops functioning correctly.
I've also come to find that the problem gets worse with uptime, 20 minutes ago I was getting 20 sec connections, until a reboot, now I expect to have hour+ functional periods.
I know what a cold boot is, but not completely familiar on this kind of device.
Do I need to shut down and leave it off for a few minutes to perform a cold boot?
Also, what is an FMR memory clean, and can I do that without root?
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Cold boot: shut it off. Hold Volume Down and Power until the tab vibrates twice. If you're on 4.2 you should see 3 icons with RCK flashing. Use Volume Down to highlight "Android", press Volume Up to confirm.
Tiny script upper left will read: Cold booting Linux
As far as I know you can only clear cache for individual apps, not system caches on stock without root...
This is starting to sound like a hardware problem to me.
If you're still under warranty I would contact Asus and see what they have to say.
A factory reset would be my last resort before sending it in.
Good luck
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Cold boot: shut it off. Hold Volume Down and Power until the tab vibrates twice. If you're on 4.2 you should see 3 icons with RCK flashing. Use Volume Down to highlight "Android", press Volume Up to confirm.
Tiny script upper left will read: Cold booting Linux
As far as I know you can only clear cache for individual apps, not system caches on stock without root...
This is starting to sound like a hardware problem to me.
If you're still under warranty I would contact Asus and see what they have to say.
A factory reset would be my last resort before sending it in.
Good luck
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What is it called when you boot into bootloader, then just let the RCK blink for 10s, hit no buttons, then it automatically boots saying "cold booting linux"? How is this different than the Android, or is it the same? I'm on 4.1.1
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What is it called when you boot into bootloader, then just let the RCK blink for 10s, hit no buttons, then it automatically boots saying "cold booting linux"? How is this different than the Android, or is it the same? I'm on 4.1.1
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I don't think that works on 4.2 anymore since it defaults to fastboot mode (for which you had to select "USB" on 4.1) when booting into the bootloader.
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I don't think that works on 4.2 anymore since it defaults to fastboot mode (for which you had to select "USB" on 4.1) when booting into the bootloader.
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Understood. But is there another way to do it on 4.1, or is that the only way?
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Understood. But is there another way to do it on 4.1, or is that the only way?
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I think on 4.1 you had two options to cold boot: Boot into the bootloader and do nothing as you mentioned earlier, or select the Android and confirm with Vol Up. Both accomplished the same thing: cold booting Linux.
On 4.2 you have to select the Android.
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I think on 4.1 you had two options to cold boot: Boot into the bootloader and do nothing as you mentioned earlier, or select the Android and confirm with Vol Up. Both accomplished the same thing: cold booting Linux.
On 4.2 you have to select the Android.
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Thanks for the info. That's what I thought, but just confirming. Thinking isn't good enough, you gotta know. Wouldn't want to go around telling people how to cold boot or that cold boot fixes something when that's not what I'm actually doing, but it seemed pretty obvious I was cold booting - the micro script tells you so and also that if you wait 10s it will just happen automatically, and I like automatic. What's that font size anyway, 1/4 point? You just about need a magnifying glass to read it.
Actually, I've never done it any other way. From day 1 it seemed self-evident, and the easiest way to me, yet all I've read about cold booting on this forum says to do it with the Android. I guess that is the "official" way. But since I'm officially lazy, I do it the easiest way! This is a rare example of being able to do the same thing two different ways on Android. Often there is only one way to do it, to the letter. Talk about lazy, I use rebooter app too. 1-click cold boot. Savin' the buttons for when I really need 'em.
[Edit] Hey, OP we didn't forget about you. FMR Memory Cleaner can be run without root. Its not your average task killer. Digs out some memory somehow. It must clean cache and delete logs. I use it once a week religiously.
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Thanks for the info. That's what I thought, but just confirming. Thinking isn't good enough, you gotta know. Wouldn't want to go around telling people how to cold boot or that cold boot fixes something when that's not what I'm actually doing, but it seemed pretty obvious I was cold booting - the micro script tells you so and also that if you wait 10s it will just happen automatically, and I like automatic. What's that font size anyway, 1/4 point? You just about need a magnifying glass to read it.
Actually, I've never done it any other way. From day 1 it seemed self-evident, and the easiest way to me, yet all I've read about cold booting on this forum says to do it with the Android. I guess that is the "official" way. But since I'm officially lazy, I do it the easiest way! This is a rare example of being able to do the same thing two different ways on Android. Often there is only one way to do it, to the letter. Talk about lazy, I use rebooter app too. 1-click cold boot. Savin' the buttons for when I really need 'em.
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Yeah! You wouldn't want to wear out those volume buttons! LOL
I guess, that's why they defaulted the bootloader menu to fastboot on 4.2. Booting into system was redundant...
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Yeah! You wouldn't want to wear out those volume buttons! LOL
I guess, that's why they defaulted the bootloader menu to fastboot on 4.2. Booting into system was redundant...
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Believe it or not, my power button already stuck once in the down position. Talk about a boot loop. All that buzzing scared the daylights out of my dogs and they were just about ready to attack my tablet laying on my bed. I thought there was a raccoon or something in the house - they were going ballistic. I had just turned it off and set it down, and went out to the garage to work on a project and the next thing I know all he*& broke loose. I fixed it with a drop of electric razor oil on a Q-tip and my device is less than 6 mos old. I'm not joking about saving those buttons!
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Wouldn't want to go around telling people how to cold boot or that cold boot fixes something when that's not what I'm actually doing
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The common understanding of "cold booting" is "turning on the power and letting the bootloader load the kernel". So you are already cold booting if you turn it off and on again.
Nobody came up with any evidence yet that the explicit selection of Android in the bootloader menu does anything more than simply not entering the bootloader menu and letting it boot normally.
I noticed some interesting behavior when this happens on my device. Say its tethered to my phone's 3G, and there are up to 5 bars (pie slice shaped concentric rings) in the docked notifications panel on the lower right screen. Often my phone has 3-4 bars, but there are none showing on the device when this happens. This isn't ability to connect to wifi, it is connected, its ability to connect to the internet thru the wifi. I see this more often lately for some reason. I have to toggle my wifi or reset my hotspot so the bars come back on the device, and to re-connect to the internet. Happens often when I am posting here and there has been significant idle time between data exchange. Sometimes I can just highlight the address bar link and then hit enter and it reconnects. Seems like some kind of idle timeout. Maybe it has something to do with Verizon's hotspot connection and dwell time, and they are cutting off my allocated bandwidth connection so an "active" user can use it. Fine, but it doesn't reconnect me when I later transmit my data and that's not fine.
I noticed some interesting behavior when this happens on my device. Say its tethered to my phone's 3G, and there are up to 5 bars (pie slice shaped concentric rings) in the docked notifications panel on the lower right screen. Often my phone has 3-4 bars, but there are none showing on the device when this happens. This isn't ability to connect to wifi, it is connected, its ability to connect to the internet thru the wifi. I see this more often lately for some reason. I have to toggle my wifi or reset my hotspot so the bars come back on the device, and to re-connect to the internet. Happens often when I am posting here and there has been significant idle time between data exchange. Sometimes I can just highlight the address bar link and then hit enter and it reconnects. Seems like some kind of idle timeout. Maybe it has something to do with Verizon's hotspot connection and dwell time, and they are cutting off my allocated bandwidth connection so an "active" user can use it. Fine, but it doesn't reconnect me when I later transmit my data and that's not fine.
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That would make sense, if it was only my hotspot where I was having the problem, but it's the same on my WiFi at home. I also believe that the bars on the Transformer WiFi dock notification indicate WiFi signal strength.
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Cold boot: shut it off. Hold Volume Down and Power until the tab vibrates twice. If you're on 4.2 you should see 3 icons with RCK flashing. Use Volume Down to highlight "Android", press Volume Up to confirm.
Tiny script upper left will read: Cold booting Linux
As far as I know you can only clear cache for individual apps, not system caches on stock without root...
This is starting to sound like a hardware problem to me.
If you're still under warranty I would contact Asus and see what they have to say.
A factory reset would be my last resort before sending it in.
Good luck
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Ah, wasn't sure since the small change after 4.2, thanks.
I've been afraid that this would be a hardware problem, I've kept this baby well, and thought of trading it in for a refurb is not a pleasant one...
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OutlawV said:
That would make sense, if it was only my hotspot where I was having the problem, but it's the same on my WiFi at home. I also believe that the bars on the Transformer WiFi dock notification indicate WiFi signal strength.
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Ah, now that I am looking at that again I think you are right. I thought they represented the 3G signal strength of the phones connection. What's interesting is that when it happens, the display is erroneous, because in wifi analyser app it still shows me I have 50dB yet the bar graph shows zero bars. Connected wifi with no signal strength. Yup, that's my problem alright.