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Yes, yes I know the benefits of ROM's but man there are really getting on my tits.
I am fed up of things not working, the 'phone locking up, for what some battery and performance improvements that I don't even notice in day to day use.
My DHD admittedly ran better with Lee's and Mikes ROM's, my Sensation ran better in stock and every ROM I have tried have so many issues it's unreal.
If u dnt like the roms, don't use it!!! Haha
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I've had no serious issues using custom roms on my sensation. Definitely happy I upgraded from the desire hd.
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It may take a little patience, but it is definitely worth it on some of the ROMs. I have been sticking with Mike's ROMs and couldn't be happier. His latest 3.6.1 has been running flawless for me and many others. I guess you just have to find one you enjoy and keep looking back until it is completely daily stable.
Ops post is quite painful to read an I'm not even a dev, but I guess I understand where he is coming from. But op what you don't realize is that people who post roms go through a ton of work to get to where they are. Believe it or not but I'd go as far as to say that the devs for my phone (motorola milestone v1) know more about the phone than the group of developers from motorola.
Op, I'll dumb it down a little for you, if you need a stable phone stick with what it was when you pulled it out of the box. But if you wish to go a on an epic journey filled with ups and downs of situations where you'll sit there with a huge smile across your face, stick around, thank the devs for the gift they have given you, and if at all possible learn a thing or two while you enjoy your stay.
~PsyCl0ne
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The only thing keeping me away from Custom ROMS is the poor audio quality when video recording...
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There are a number of ROMs that are plenty stable. You just have to find the right ones. I'm on CoreDroid 2.4 which has proven to be as stable as stock for me. Don't be surprised if a ROM you run that isn't on stock kernel and runs hacked Sense 3.5 isn't stable.
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Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the work the dev's put in, I have only used Virtuous, Leedroid and Android HD but I have never had an install without some issue. Then the next version comes out and you have a different set of issues it's just so frustrating.
Witj bulletproof 1.4 (not the 3.5 version) i've had literally no issues.
Pork on the fork...
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Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the work the dev's put in, I have only used Virtuous, Leedroid and Android HD but I have never had an install without some issue. Then the next version comes out and you have a different set of issues it's just so frustrating.
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User error, PEBKAC, etc.
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User error, PEBKAC, etc.
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Oh because I make a thread bemoaning the woes of using custom ROM's I must be an imbecile and all ROM's get released with no bugs and other issues?
Using mikes 3.6.1... Its rock stable and fast for me
He's releasing 3.6.2 soon. Look out for it. Comes with faux's new kernel
Sensational
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
happy so far and my phone is usually glued to my hand
I am considering this stuff with Roms as a hobby and there is no such a thing as a flawless product anywhere...
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{LCD}Stelios said:
Oh because I make a thread bemoaning the woes of using custom ROM's I must be an imbecile and all ROM's get released with no bugs and other issues?
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No such thing as a bug free ROM, not even stock
OP, try insert coin, a 2.3.4 version (latest is 2.5.5 ver2 w/ bricked kernel) its the best ive used to date, with frequent use, i get 1 day battery life, and with average-minimal use, i get 2 days battery life. no crashes, reboots or sense reloads, 200mb free ram (unless you use a custom theme).
while i would have agreed with the op when dev first started, this is no longer the case anymore. the devs have learned A LOT about this phone, and its builds and have only gotten so much better with time.
the main reason ppl come to XDA is so they CAN flash many, many roms to see what suits them. when i had my HD2 i was a certified flashaholic, new rom every 3 days to a week
with this fone ive settled down quite a bit, but when i new rom/dev comes along, i nand backup, flash the new rom, let it settle and then try it out for a few days and actually give it a chance.
Custom ROMs are fun because there are so many out there, and you can spend time with each one to determine which one fits your needs. If you're looking for a phone that is stable, just use the one that's been working the best for you and improvise, fixing what needs to be fixed so that your phone can do what you require of it.
Using Android Revolution HD 3.6.2 and its stable for me, had more issues with stock ROM.
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Rather than annoy devs on each Sense 4.0 post I thought I'd ask this simple question here as the BT problem is the same on each build.
BT was never working until Mdeejay fixed it (from memory). However, all the builds seem to only have a partially working fix as I cannot get my car to fully connect anymore (fine on Sense 3.6 etc).
My question is...is it a known issue that its a partial fix or do Sense 4.0 BT just not work with all devices. I need my phone to connect to my car and am happy to wait but perhaps I'm waiting for something that'll never happen!
Thanks for any heads-up
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Rather than annoy devs on each Sense 4.0 post I thought I'd ask this simple question here as the BT problem is the same on each build.
BT was never working until Mdeejay fixed it (from memory). However, all the builds seem to only have a partially working fix as I cannot get my car to fully connect anymore (fine on Sense 3.6 etc).
My question is...is it a known issue that its a partial fix or do Sense 4.0 BT just not work with all devices. I need my phone to connect to my car and am happy to wait but perhaps I'm waiting for something that'll never happen!
Thanks for any heads-up
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Hi,
BT stack is notoriously poor on the Sensation.
I have seen some people using the latest FAUX 005b1 KERNEL on their Sense 4.0 ROMS .
He has had a degree of success in improving the BT stack.
Might be worth a try.
malybru said:
Hi,
BT stack is notoriously poor on the Sensation.
I have seen some people using the latest FAUX 005b1 KERNEL on their Sense 4.0 ROMS .
He has had a degree of success in improving the BT stack.
Might be worth a try.
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Thanks. Rather embarrassingly I have never swapped the kernel that's already included in the Rom so that might be a challenge. I'll read around and see if I can do it as I like the idea of this kernel having an improved BT stack.
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Thanks. Rather embarrassingly I have never swapped the kernel that's already included in the Rom so that might be a challenge. I'll read around and see if I can do it as I like the idea of this kernel having an improved BT stack.
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Hi,
Not difficult at all.
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP.
Wipe cache and dalvik,
Flash kernel like a ROM.
Et voila.
Just worked that out (minus the wiping bit so not sure what I've got now )
jamesbond_28_007 said:
Rather than annoy devs on each Sense 4.0 post I thought I'd ask this simple question here as the BT problem is the same on each build.
BT was never working until Mdeejay fixed it (from memory). However, all the builds seem to only have a partially working fix as I cannot get my car to fully connect anymore (fine on Sense 3.6 etc).
My question is...is it a known issue that its a partial fix or do Sense 4.0 BT just not work with all devices. I need my phone to connect to my car and am happy to wait but perhaps I'm waiting for something that'll never happen!
Thanks for any heads-up
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Mdeejay only partially fixed Bluetooth - look @rootzwiki it says Bluetooth fix part 1 (media) in changelog
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Jonny said:
Mdeejay only partially fixed Bluetooth - look @rootzwiki it says Bluetooth fix part 1 (media) in changelog
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Ahh, I see. The faux kernel made no difference and now I know why. Couldnt find that changelog but at least I know a part 2 is likely!
Has any of the dev's been able to slove the bluetooth issues as yet on sense 4. roms or near to solving the issues.
BT Fix?
Same here, like most Sense 4.0 Roms that I have tried out have been almost near perfection right up until you get to the bluetooth part, like it really bugs me cause i'm normally on my BT majority of the time. Does anyone have any idea of an ETA on the fix? Cause I really would like to go back to Sense 4.0 instead having to use Sense 3.6 still
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Same here, like most Sense 4.0 Roms that I have tried out have been almost near perfection right up until you get to the bluetooth part, like it really bugs me cause i'm normally on my BT majority of the time. Does anyone have any idea of an ETA on the fix? Cause I really would like to go back to Sense 4.0 instead having to use Sense 3.6 still
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One rule of CyanogenMod which probably applies here is don't ask for ETA it is done when its done
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Anthonyburton100 said:
Same here, like most Sense 4.0 Roms that I have tried out have been almost near perfection right up until you get to the bluetooth part, like it really bugs me cause i'm normally on my BT majority of the time. Does anyone have any idea of an ETA on the fix? Cause I really would like to go back to Sense 4.0 instead having to use Sense 3.6 still
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Eta = when it's ready/fixed.
That goes for ANY project on xda/rootzwiki/etc.
It's not like these guys are getting paid to do this, nor is it their job title of "developer".
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Anybody know of a 3.6 rom that has working bluetooth voice dialing?
geoffcorey said:
Eta = when it's ready/fixed.
That goes for ANY project on xda/rootzwiki/etc.
It's not like these guys are getting paid to do this, nor is it their job title of "developer".
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I agree. And for clarification, I didnt ask
I know I could just check the change logs on the each Rom but is there anywhere I can go to see progress or updates on this issue? Something about rootwiki but no idea where to look!
Thanks.
I installed DS 3D v.2 today but am having an error with the music app. Every time beats audio is on it crashes.
Does anyone know how I could potentially fix this? Or recommend a similar ROM?
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mzr92 said:
I installed DS 3D v.2 today but am having an error with the music app. Every time beats audio is on it crashes.
Does anyone know how I could potentially fix this? Or recommend a similar ROM?
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Just flash Endymion and you'll be taken care of...
Sent from a Desire S still looking for a good replacement.
Haha a bit of shameless plugging?
I would use Endymion, based on the excellent reviews, but at the moment I feel more comfortable with a ROM based on exciting HTC ROMs. Sorry, I'm still paranoid about doing something awful to my phone x]
Once you've released a version based on official Kernel 3 I'll definitely try out your ROM, I'm sure it will be excellent
I'm sorry but I think you are mis-understanding the custom ROM situation. All Sense ROMs are based on the official HTC ROMs as Sense is proprietary software. The AOSP / AOKP ROMs are a different beast as they don't include Sense, but there is no more risk in flashing Endymion than DS 3D. To be honest, there is no more risk in flashing Reaper (which I swear by) either.
Just avoid the ICS based ones until v3 kernel is out if you are not 100% sure about doing so.
Ah right, thank you very much for the information, as you have no doubt worked out I'm very new to this.
What I meant by it being risky was that I thought Endymion was based on ICS and since that hasn't been officially released for the Desire S yet there would be certain issues. I know for instance that the camera doesn't work and stuff with most ICS roms. Once those issues get sorted then I'd be very happy to move to Endymion.
Thank you for the information though
Endymion is based on Android v2.3.5 (GingerBread)
Reaper is based on CyanogenMod v7
ICS is Android v4.x
If you read the ROM threads in the dev forum they will all tell you exactly what they are based on.
Sorry, clearly I'm being stupid. Thank you for your help, I will certainly try out Endymion some time this week (installed Saga 3D today and am still restoring text messages so don't want to start the whole process again before Tuesday)
Not being stupid - just new to it. Trust me, we were all there once upon a time
If you are backing up SMS messages then I would suggest 'SMS Backup & Restore' - I have thousands of messages stored, auto-backup every night and a restore takes less than a minute.
Also, make sure you sync your contacts to your Google account rather than your SIM card - makes life a lot easier.
Also install 4EXT Recovery Control so you can take a nandroid backup of your system when you have it the way you want it, and definitely before flashing a new ROM - saves a lot of time.
Beyond that, you may want to look at Titanium Backup for app and settings backups.
Anyway, have a play and take it at a speed you are comfortable with.
Thank you very much, this has been very useful.
I'm using SMS Backup & Restore but it takes hours to recover my texts :S
Thanks for the advice about back ups, will be very handy
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Haha a bit of shameless plugging?
I would use Endymion, based on the excellent reviews, but at the moment I feel more comfortable with a ROM based on exciting HTC ROMs. Sorry, I'm still paranoid about doing something awful to my phone x]
Once you've released a version based on official Kernel 3 I'll definitely try out your ROM, I'm sure it will be excellent
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Shameless plugging? Hardly mate. Just stating facts.
And endymion is not 'my' ROM. I'm not the developer (I wish). It's Creator is lowveld...I'm just one of the faithful users.
Advised you to try it out because you really can't expect good support on a ROM like Saga 3D that hardly anyone is using today. Endymion, on the other hand....
Sent from a Desire S still looking for a good replacement.
Sorry, my bad, thank you very much for the advice, I'll check it out very soon
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People are always posting up new threads asking for advice on this ROM vs. that ROM. Well, I haven't tried them all, but I've tried quite a few of the more popular ones recently. I'm not going to pick these ROMS apart. If you want more info about what I liked or didn't like about a particular ROM I've tried, go ahead and ask.
I got my Sensation back in January. I used the stock Gingerbread for a couple of months. Then got frustrated when the T-Mobile ICS update got delayed and have been on a flashing frenzy ever since.
I've been trying a lot of ROMs lately. I started with ARHD, then went to Elegancia, then Hypernonsense, then back to Elegancia, then Sense 4 Elegancia, then back to 3.6, then Virtuous Inquisition, then Opensensation (CM9), and back to Elegancia again. I've also tried Sebastion, faux, and bricked kernels - I prefer bricked best.
I honestly don't a see a performance difference between Sense, stripped Sense, or AOSP ROMs. I have System Tuner Pro and always monitor memory usage. I thought that the stripped and AOSP ROMs would have gobs of free memory available, but they just don't. They're no better or worse. I also was compelled to try those ROMs to improve battery life. Again, the experience didn't match the hype.
It all comes down to personal preference. Each ROM has its own glitches. But from my experience, full Sense 3.6 ROMs are the most functional and most stable. I loved the Sense 4.0 ROM I tried, except that Sense crashed on me like 3 times a day having to pull the battery each time. For me, nothing beats the Sense widgets. I live in the email and calendar widgets for work and the music widget in the car. No other widgets come close.
I think I'm gonna quit screwing around with it for a while. I am very happy with the Elegancia Sense 3.6 ROM / Bricked kernal combo. It's pretty much already modded/themed the I way I would do it. I can just flash it and go. I will try the Sense 4.0 version again when it's more mature. I loved it, I just can't have my phone crashing on me constantly.
I still want to try MIUI and will probably try CM9 again when it's official. I really like some of the home screen setups people have been able to pull off with their AOSP ROMs. But I think the widgets will always pull me back to a full Sense ROM. The only widgets that can compete, you have to pay for - and they're still not as good. Also, the AOSP camera blows compared to the Sense camera. In the end, it's all about what's functional for you.
In conclusion, try a few, try a bunch... don't get lost in the hunt for better battery life and more performance, because - 1) those 2 things don't go together... & 2) those 2 things are largely the same across all ROMS whether you're full Sense, stripped-Sense, or AOSP. Just find what you like and enjoy!
SO wutZ da best roms to use?
Just joking, but it's too bad some people are serious.
Its all about your liking that's it otherwise there is not a rom whit better battery life than any others
-Nuff Said.
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Great post, couldn't agree more.
Love Sense 4.0 but it just isn't mature enough
reficuliu said:
Great post, couldn't agree more.
Love Sense 4.0 but it just isn't mature enough
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I've been using Ordroid (Sense4) for a week or so now and I've found it quiet stable to be honest. I haven't experienced any crashes.
The batterylife was in 5.0.X about 17 hours (2 hours of screen turned on).
V6.0.0; I can't say if there are anything wrong just yet since its been out for about 2 days only and I've used it for 1 day. but the first batterycycle was about 21 hours with 2h 5m screen turned on. Only thing I could complain about with Ordroid is the partially working BT, I can't say anything about the Wifi-tethering issue because I am not using it.
Hmm, well I guess that was that.
The partially working Bluetooth issue is across all Sense 4 ROMs. It has to do with the fact that Sense 4 was ported from another device with different BT hardware - so the Sense drivers aren't fully compatible.
With the release of T-Mobile's official RUU, it may be time try Sense 4 again and see if some of the previous issues I experienced are fixed now. But BT will probably always only be partially working due to the driver issue.
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The partially working Bluetooth issue is across all Sense 4 ROMs. It has to do with the fact that Sense 4 was ported from another device with different BT hardware - so the Sense drivers aren't fully compatible.
With the release of T-Mobile's official RUU, it may be time try Sense 4 again and see if some of the previous issues I experienced are fixed now. But BT will probably always only be partially working due to the driver issue.
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Ah okey I didn't know that, thanks for sharing
I like my sence less rom. Its just personal preference! That's what makes it fun! Options! Gotta love options!
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I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
great post!
I use elegancia ics 4.3 sence 4.0 is good so far it has a few glitches like if you try to take a picture while recording a video, the camera crashes or if you press the camera button to take several pictures at once it crashes! But other than that is good!
P.D. that Rom is updated like every other day but I still don't know how to update it
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teomor said:
I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
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Well I've always found that the custom roms out-compete the stock ones repeatedly. You get a much better battery life, minimal bloatware and more power. Use android revolution hd 6+ and you'll see the differences
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Yes I agree! I have much better battery life and over all better experience!
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I tried Elegancia Sense 4 again last night. I thought it was time to give it another go since there have a few builds released since the last time. Unfortunately, nothing has changed. Whatever issues I'm having are buried deeper than what gets changed from build to build.
My phone has crashed on my twice in the last 5 hours. It's unfortunate. I really like Sense 4 - I think it's cleaner & smoother than 3.6. The camera is better and faster than 3.6. But if your phone crashes on you while changing menus or doesn't wake up and you have to pull the battery all the time, then it's useless.
Does anyone else have these issues with Sense 4? Maybe another Sense 4 ROM is better? I have not yet tried another Sense 4 ROM because it seems they all use the same base. Maybe I should try another and see if it works better...
The new InsertCoin ROM Sense 4.0 is out now, looks very stable, only FM Radio not working. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546731
I just flashed OrDroid Sense 4. I'll give that one a shot. It has a different base - the new leaked Ville RUU instead of the One S. The Ville and Sensation share the same processor, so maybe that will do the trick.
EDIT: That one's no good for me either. It has its own set of glitches I'm not willing to live with.
Now trying Steve's new TMOUS Elegancia with Bricked kernel.
Any tradeoffs for non Sense ROMs? I know the camera app is better on HTC's but other than that? Is there a Torch app similar to the stock one? Etc..
...and back on Elegancia 3.7.6. lol
I am running the updated TMOUS firmware now, tho. along with the other radio fix for TMOUS users. This might be the best combo I've run yet. But I'm still anxious for a fully functional Sense 4 ROM.
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Any tradeoffs for non Sense ROMs? I know the camera app is better on HTC's but other than that? Is there a Torch app similar to the stock one? Etc..
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There is another Torch app that is pretty much the same. The ROMs I've tried all have it included if they don't have the HTC app.
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P.D. that Rom is updated like every other day but I still don't know how to update it
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Just flash the new one on top. No super wipe required all your data and apps are safe
teomor said:
I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
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For me, I love the overclocking of custom roms/kernels. Stock Sensation is 1.2ghz. My custom rom Sensation is 1.7ghz. Man is it speedy. I took the time to read countless posts and spent a ton of time learning how to mod my Sensation. No way am I going back to stock carrier rom.
I am still running the last version of Axiom, but at this point -- with the discussion of Key Lime Pie already starting, I really want to move up to Jelly Bean (notwithstanding that Axiom included a lot of its aesthetic features).
I wanted to ask those of you who also used Axiom before the devs defected and went over the the SG3 camp.... what ROM did you ultimately decide to change to.
It looks like the ViperRom is very similar in ways, as I see it uses the "Axiom Suite" allowing all those tweaks.... this would seem pretty good except, it is Sense still, and I don't think the HTC One S has received it OTA for JB. (if I am wrong about this, please let me know). Notwithstanding this OTA, we still would not have the upgraded Sense code, and I don't know if we can run Android 4.1 and an older version of Sense (the one with 4.0.4.
So, that is sort of my dilemma. I would like to see how Jelly Bean feels, so, additionally, I was considering the ParanoidANdroid ROM. But I am not really sure if it is even worth the hassle --
So I have a lot of hesitation, and am basically just trying to take a poll on Roms after having using Axiom since last May.
Thanks!!!
Trickdroid for T-Mobile seems to be comparable to axiom s but with support and updates. Not sure which to go to for s-less.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
I went from Axiom to the unofficial AOKP Jelly, and I've been really happy with the upgrade. I do miss a few of the minor Sense things like FM radio, but the speed of AOKP is really like night and day.
I tried Viper for a few around when I was trying AOKP, and it's similar to Axiom, but no where near as fast as AOKP.
If the aosp roms could have the sense camera ported that would be a real treat for us but I'm aware that this cannot be done atleast not yet
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wi-fi calling and camera are the reasons I'm still on the last s-less axiom
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wi-fi calling and camera are the reasons I'm still on the last s-less axiom
XDA via HTC One S
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Could you possibly post it? Thanks.
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Yes...for me Wi-Fi calling is imperative.
As far ad the camera..wasn't there a flashable mod which added most of the sense camera features?
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