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Feedback Needed From The Thunderbolt Community

If you recently purchased a Thunderbolt ....
You may be in the same boat as me, looking at rooting. Everyone is talking about gingerbread coming to our phones. I haven't seen an OTA as of yet, but it has leaked. located here->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1225752
Now,
I know that you can root very easy here->
http://revolutionary.io/
and I would play close attention to this video as it provides detailed instructions ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UK_CiB2SYk
**WAIT**
Before you dive in, here comes my question.
If you have done your research, there are alot and I mean ALOT of roms to flash for the thunderbolt.
I would like some feedback as to what rom you have flashed.
This will help anyone new to the thunderbolt party as well as myself.
I have yet to make a decision on rooting or waiting.
Your feedback below please.
Thank you all in advance
And as ALWAYS,
Thank you to all the developers who are working there butts off !

I tried out team bamf first, but then they jumped ship to their own forum. So then droidtheory started releasing roms and jumped to him and haven't looked back.
He has a sense and aosp (cm7) version and also dhacker and xpack have released their own versions based off of droidtheory's work.
xpack's senseless rom is very nice. Has the sense base so gps and nfl network work right out of the gate, but no sense (adw launcher instead) so its fast and smooth.

nrfitchett4 said:
I tried out team bamf first, but then they jumped ship to their own forum. So then droidtheory started releasing roms and jumped to him and haven't looked back.
He has a sense and aosp (cm7) version and also dhacker and xpack have released their own versions based off of droidtheory's work.
xpack's senseless rom is very nice. Has the sense base so gps and nfl network work right out of the gate, but no sense (adw launcher instead) so its fast and smooth.
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You can't go wrong with DroidTh3orys ROMS.

Root. Now. That way you can make your choice when/if GB actually comes. You can always go back to stock unrooted. You may not be able to root with the new OTA.
Roms? Like many things they are a personal choice that no one can make for you. Having flashed them all, I can tell you they have improved dramatically since I got my bolt in May. If you choose to root, do yourself a favor and try several. You will find the Rom that suits your taste and needs.
courtesy of my bolt and tapatalk

I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo

thisismalhotra said:
I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo
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100% agree with this guy.

Us leaving XDA doesn't change anything about the quality of our roms. Fact is, many of our innovations end up in other roms anyway (ask ihtfp69 and erishasnobattery).
You can find us at teambamf.net, or rootzwiki.com.
There are many roms to choose from out there. Try them all, then decide.

Thank you all for your feedback. I made sure to click the Thank You buttons on all of your comments.
Once again thanks for the quick response. will be flashing later on today.
Im hoping this post may help some new Thunderbolt owners.

For sense based I like synergy but shift aosp is dope
Sent from my tbolt running ShiftAOSP

thisismalhotra said:
I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo
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On what basis do you feel that ShiftAO5P is the best? I am not throwing stones and am just curious what makes this Rom stand out for you? Thanks!

I am using Luquid Gingersense v1.6 and I really like the sense 3.0 and Gingerbread look.

Lyondellic said:
On what basis do you feel that ShiftAO5P is the best? I am not throwing stones and am just curious what makes this Rom stand out for you? Thanks!
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**Every phone behaves differently just want to add this before anything.
Multiple reasons, first and foremost my phone behaved the best with ShiftAO5P. I had a very smooth running phone and an amazing battery life with all the bells and whistles turned on. I went from 4 am in the morning to almost 6 in the evening without a charge. I am a moderate to heavy user, my battery does not last that long EVER.
2nd, choices with the rom was amazing multiple governers, mulitple kernels you can try them all till you find the best combo.
3rd, support DT is very active on the forum so answers and issues are resolved very fast.

I have flashed almost every Rom for the TB.
My recs are
Sense: DroidTh3orys Sense Rome
AOSP: CM7 or Omfgb for those who like tweaks. TheRom for those who want a vanilla experience.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using XDA App

I'm currently running synergy and i really like it. It works flawlessly on my phone now. I'm considering switching to shift though just to get flash happy
Sent using my thumbs on my SwiftKey X neon keyboard, synergy ran TB.

thisismalhotra said:
**Every phone behaves differently just want to add this before anything.
Multiple reasons, first and foremost my phone behaved the best with ShiftAO5P. I had a very smooth running phone and an amazing battery life with all the bells and whistles turned on. I went from 4 am in the morning to almost 6 in the evening without a charge. I am a moderate to heavy user, my battery does not last that long EVER.
2nd, choices with the rom was amazing multiple governers, mulitple kernels you can try them all till you find the best combo.
3rd, support DT is very active on the forum so answers and issues are resolved very fast.
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Thanks for getting back to me on this. I will have to give ShiftAO5P a try.

I've been running dasBamf Roms for a month now and love them. I am currently on UberBamf PR3. every Tbolt is different, so experiment and see what works best for YOU. After you install each ROM, make a back up of it. That way, if you install one, that you don't like, you can revert.

I like a fast, customizable ROM without all the Sense bloat so I use Liquid Thundersense. I've only had this phone for 5 days so I really have no other Thunderbolt ROM to compare it to (I ran Gingeritis for a couple hours and the stock ROM only long enough to download Gingeritis to the device; I just hate Sense lol). As far as it goes though I've owned five Android devices total and have rooted and ran custom ROMs on all of them. Only way to go IMHO.
Sent from my Liquid Thunderbread HTC Thunderbolt

Dumb question, do you keep the camera effects with different roms. I really like the focal effect. Lol
Sent from my Thunderbolt using XDA App

I can't say for sure, but I just checked mine, and it had all the camera effects in it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

They all offer something different. I have tried almost all. It's hit and miss. What works for me might not work for you. Keep flashing you will find your liking.
Sent from my phone.

What Rom should I use? What's the hands down general best?

I am currently using Cyanogen Mod 7 and realizing that I don't like it @ all. The camera is pretty much ****. And it cuts out sound a lot. And I'm kinda feining to go back to sense. So i wanna know if there are any good and worthy Sense 3.5 2.3.5 roms or a 100% AOSP rom, Fast, battery efficient, themed would be nice, over clocked, and all the other goodies.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App

Have you tried revolution?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using Tapatalk

to all your own, but i do like the revolution HD 4.1. I like that i can finally delete home pages within sense 3.5

Completely subjective, I like my ROM as it does what I want it to
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

djjuice said:
to all your own, but i do like the revolution HD 4.1. I like that i can finally delete home pages within sense 3.5
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Me, too. But I'm finding 4.1.3 a bit laggy. Wondering if Insertcoin would be better, and I'm trying to find out what the differences are, but info seems scarce. The advice seems to be: "test it and see for yourself".

like eddyOS said, its subjective.
you need to try out the different roms to find what you like.
i tried practically all the roms, almost all gave me this same problem (mobile internet not working and bad signals) until i found a few and went on trying and testing it and got the one that suits me.

What works for me may not work for you.... and besides, though we have same phone, our experience with the ROMs here is unique with each other...
if you ask me, my bet would be Baad (IC), Mike (ARHD), and Ctdroid's work (no offense to other devs) .... Reason? i dont have problems migrating back and forth with those ROM's + great support from the respective teams... If you want SENSEless, check Melvin and Xboarder56's work...

rawr4dj said:
I am currently using Cyanogen Mod 7 and realizing that I don't like it @ all. The camera is pretty much ****. And it cuts out sound a lot. And I'm kinda feining to go back to sense. So i wanna know if there are any good and worthy Sense 3.5 2.3.5 roms or a 100% AOSP rom, Fast, battery efficient, themed would be nice, over clocked, and all the other goodies.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
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Stock rooted sense 3.5. See EddyOS's rom in development section.

i am using InsertCoin now ... fast and smooth so far ( juz flashed 2 hrs ago ).
The HTC amaze cam is wicked !
i can feel that it is smoother than my previous bulletproof ( althou it comes with a good tweak option ).

Sense is ****. Try MIUI camera if you don't like the CM7 one. You should stick with CM7 rom though, it's the best.

sergeybrin said:
Sense is ****. Try MIUI camera if you don't like the CM7 one. You should stick with CM7 rom though, it's the best.
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It's this narrow-mindedness the OP should be ignoring. Just because YOU think it's the best doesn't mean it is

EddyOS said:
It's this narrow-mindedness the OP should be ignoring. Just because YOU think it's the best doesn't mean it is
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And because YOU think stock android is "****ty and boring" as quoted in another post of yours, that means it is? Pot calling the kettle black bro.

No, just cause I call it **** doesn't mean I'm right. I've never said I am. BUT I'm saying you're wrong to call a ROM 'the best' as there's no such thing. The 'best' ROM is whatever the user thinks it is.
I use MY own ROM the I'VE cooked as, for me, it's the best as it doesn't EXACTLY what I want it to.
All I'm trying to get across is the OP is going to have to try different ROMs and make up their own mind. I'd say that it's worth trying CM7 but I cannot live without the Sense widgets and the general smoothness of Sense. CM7 just isn't as nice in MY eyes, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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Also meant to add, once CM7 is out of alpha/beta I'll probably give it a go again and see if it's better than last time I used it. I'm quite looking forward to a proper, official MIUI release as I quite like that

CM7 should be good once it actually comes out of Alpha...I hope. Loved it on my N1. Still having problems though...but it is alpha.

rawr4dj said:
I am currently using Cyanogen Mod 7 and realizing that I don't like it @ all. The camera is pretty much ****. And it cuts out sound a lot. And I'm kinda feining to go back to sense. So i wanna know if there are any good and worthy Sense 3.5 2.3.5 roms or a 100% AOSP rom, Fast, battery efficient, themed would be nice, over clocked, and all the other goodies.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
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Ive been flashing since the first roms were around on the G1. I like to check out every rom offered for my phone and as of now im back on sense (just like the widgets). But like anyone will tell you there is no "best" updates from all our great devs come out daily.
After testing a lot (if not all) roms on sensation, I found Synergy's latest r85 to be top dawg at the moment. Heres my setup, no problems at all so far its fast, stable, and battery life is great
Flashed in this order:
Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193089
Kernel (flashed recommended 1.2 and then cam fix right after): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Im on 10.14 radio cause it seems to give me best data/batter life, its also what synergy devs are using.
lemme kno what you think

u have to find it out by your own..
but i really recommend S3N5EaY v1.6.0 - 2.3.5 / 3.5 sense..
i know CM7 - revolution hd and some others.. have to flash my phone 2128238 times a week lol ..
S3N5EaY is fully stable, fast and sensational of battery.
let me know what u thinkin about it

Well if cm7 alpha isn't floating your boat that's understandable. It isn't fully released yet anyway right? But if you want a fully operational sense rom that feels like a cm/aosp then you should try the beastrom-sv4. Everything works and it's light and snappy. Not as snappy as cm7Alpha 8 but then again it's sense base 2.3.5 now I believe. Just don't install the themes for it as they are not updated to the new base (still set for the 2.3.4).

Although I'm a fairly devoted Cyanogenmod user, I have to admit the Sense 3.5 based roms are quite snappy. Still not quite as snappy as Cyanogenmod but certainly an improvement over Sense 3.0.
I don't think there is a hang of a lot of difference between the roms though. Inspite of claims made by some that xyz ROM is the fastest, has the best battery life, or whatever I've never noticed a difference apart from the odd tweak here and there. These days if one dev comes up with something really cool it ends up in all the other roms within a week anyway. Each ROM does have it's own distinct favour though depending on who cooked it.
Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod

Android Revolution HD 3.6.2 XE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
Wicked fast, extremely stable and lots of friendly support.

I am on InsertCoin at the moment, it is a great ROM. More or less stock, but with reasonable featers as Amaze camera.
LeeeDroid is also great, but it is a bit out of date, I hope Lee upgrades soon when he is back.

Sensation, advantages and disadvantages, solving some issues

I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!

leyus said:
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks

I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.

Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS

Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.

kboater said:
I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.

MartijnGP said:
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.

[email protected]$oLiD said:
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.

csd181 said:
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me

leyus said:
I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.

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And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.

leyus said:
Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

lorddart said:
How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App

leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA App

leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

csd181 said:
Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)

mzmo said:
What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA App
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App

lorddart said:
Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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leyus said:
I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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Should I mod my Sensation?

A few weeks ago I received the ICS update per my HTC. It's brand Vodafone, so with a lot of useless things, but it works very well (some delay sometimes).
If I mod my Sensation with some custom roms, will it be more stable, fast and other things like that or the improvements would be useless?
Thanks!

Will be faster, with less (well, none) Voda crapware.

It changed my life ^^
No seriously when you start to flash rom it's dangerous because you can become addicted to that and you'll start to flash every rom to find the fastest rom.
If you don't want to try all them:
-ARHD if you like sense interface,or CM9.

Bottom line - it will be better than stock

Should you mod? In short, yes.
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In nearly every case, with all the Android phones I've owned, modding them with a custom ROM has made them better. What you mode with will depend on what you want. Lots of ROMs have one version or another of Sense. One of the really good ones is RevolutionHD, which I used for some time. Fast, responsive, great battery life, no chuff.
However, after I while I realized that I want to go back to the minimalist approach, so I returned to Cyanogenmod, without Sense (Sense is pretty, but a major resource hog, IMHO). You could go with the "pure" CM9 nightlies which are rock stable. Or you could look at OpenSensation, which is built on CM9 but has a few tweaks not yet merged into the nightly builds yet. Also rock solid and stable.
Make sure, whichever way you go, to follow the modding instructions for the ROM, since they vary from one dev/builder to another. The Development topic has all the different ROM threads and all the guidance you need.

Definitely yes.
I got a custom ROM because ICS hasn't been released in my location yet, but when I got a custom GB ROM I noticed how much faster and stable it was. And now there's no way I'm ever going back to stock.
I'm using Android Revolution HD 6.6.7 now.
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Garciimore said:
It changed my life ^^
No seriously when you start to flash rom it's dangerous because you can become addicted to that and you'll start to flash every rom to find the fastest rom.
If you don't want to try all them:
-ARHD if you like sense interface,or CM9.
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I flashed already a lot of rom on my LG P500
But a device like that, with a custom rom, become another phone.
The sensation is already a high performance phone (not like the Galaxy S3, but...), that's why I asked, and i've already got the answers
BTW, I don't want to try all the rom on earth CM9 is cool, i like the style of the lockscreen. Anoter rom with sense 4.0?

joe.attaboy said:
In nearly every case, with all the Android phones I've owned, modding them with a custom ROM has made them better. What you mode with will depend on what you want. Lots of ROMs have one version or another of Sense. One of the really good ones is RevolutionHD, which I used for some time. Fast, responsive, great battery life, no chuff.
However, after I while I realized that I want to go back to the minimalist approach, so I returned to Cyanogenmod, without Sense (Sense is pretty, but a major resource hog, IMHO). You could go with the "pure" CM9 nightlies which are rock stable. Or you could look at OpenSensation, which is built on CM9 but has a few tweaks not yet merged into the nightly builds yet. Also rock solid and stable.
Make sure, whichever way you go, to follow the modding instructions for the ROM, since they vary from one dev/builder to another. The Development topic has all the different ROM threads and all the guidance you need.
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Thanks! I'll try one of these..

It will be a lot faster, the battery life will increase, more responsive and I like the GUI for stock ICS better than sense. Also, you will have better drivers (hopefully) so it's performance in games will increase.

Do it if you're confident enough to to reap the benefits mentioned above.
If you're not confident then leave it.

YES! You will LOVE it! It's so wonderful to have so Many choices of different Roms! I love trying new ones out but I seem to always come back to my favorite ! Try out the Roms and find your favorite! It is so much more stable then stock. You will be surprised! No force closes, or shutdowns like with stock! It's also very addicting , you will be like, what do I want to try today! Rooting is truely freeing yourself. You will finally have the ability to make your device your own! It's awesome! If there is something you don't like, you just change it! I can honestly say, I don't regret rooting for a second! You will LOVE it! Best of luck.
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I'll do it tonight! I read something but I have to find a guide to S-OFF for ICS. I saw a method with a manual trick with a copper wire but i don't know if it reliable!

Just that way is reliable, and if you're on ICS it's the only way to get S-OFF.

Dark_1 said:
I'll do it tonight! I read something but I have to find a guide to S-OFF for ICS. I saw a method with a manual trick with a copper wire but i don't know if it reliable!
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Juponutbear ?
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tessut said:
Juponutbear ?
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Yes!
I know it works, but i hope i won't fry my phone

You'll only fry your phone if the bit of wire you're using is connected to the mains

Don't use the copper wire trick. Use thishttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631.
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Hey.
S Off for Hboot 1.2x is tedious, but not difficult.
However, to make things a little easy, here is the tool that I made: http://tinyurl.com/KGSTool
It's pretty simple to use, look it up.

Thanks for all the tips, I've already done it with the wire trick!
Now i have install a recovery (4EXTRecovery is the best, right?), obtain root and superCID, right? In this order?

2.20, breathe of fresh air.

I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.

Sigh.
While I found myself telling my girlfriend this yesterday, how it was nice to not be worried about updating my rom every night and trying out multiple kernels and all that, but in reality I am just in denial and craving so bad for it I have to think negative to even survive P)
I have had the phone 3 days and LOVE it but without root IDK how long I can stand it. Thinking about trading for a S3 just for root and there are no other good alternatives.

vodka7 said:
I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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Enjoying smooth stable experience with great battery life and no FCs here too.
Running ViperXL 1.2.4 FWIW.
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robstunner said:
I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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I agree with this. I thought the stock software was decent enough to live with, the major exception being the Linkify crap. The battery life was so so at first (on 1.73 and 1.85) but when I flashed CleanROM the battery life improved greatly. I'm not sure if it was due to the jump in the base code or if it's ROM tweaks but its much nicer now.
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I felt the same, I was never able to get the same flawless, smooth experience I had with the 2.20 stock HOX with any of the ROMS/Kernel combinations found in this forum. And since I really like stock but been able to tweak, I moved back to the GS3, I forgot how nice and smooth it is...

That's odd ... I have random reboots on 2.20. I am currently using it unlocked on T-mobile.

i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.

I just got my HTC One X, w/ 2.20. Kinda made me mad cause I bought it for root/rom and turns out I got a HTC thats too new.

When I first got the phone I was on 1.85. I didn't root though. I was enjoy the stock experience and I thought if I ever did want to root I always could. Until 2.20 happened. I feel like they took away the freedom I had so now the second a root method comes I'm rooting to CM10 and never looking back.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.

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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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randong said:
You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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ComposMentis said:
I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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randong said:
What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.

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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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Hey no biggie , I'm not here to twist your arm ..and your opinion is well noted, I actually prefer that community over xda..and my post count shows that since I have quadruple the amounts of post there than I do here ..
Well if ya ever change your mind and want something.different then by all means we'll be there
Have a good day
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I don't have any issues running the latest CleanROM. Better, smoother, ad-free, Custom Kernel that saves me tons of battery. Stock 2.20 is a waste.

DvineLord said:
i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
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You can't remove it with root explorer?
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