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I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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Awesome! Welcome to the land of enormous phones!
breitlingtim said:
I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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Yeah sony needs to think long and hard about their product road map. Their cell phones are so late to the game. Doesn't bring any UI that is truly exceptional. I was a hardcore SE fan, but the Xperia X1 was such a turn off.... I love the Sony build quality but avast the software is lacking.... ((
I really like their Design of the Arc, but probably updates are far and nothing in between.... sad....
But totally glad you joined the Galaxy S class!
Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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the growth of this community is slow going though
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the growth of this community is slow going though
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The phone has been out less than a month. It is also possible we will not see as many developers as a more Samsung flagship phone like Galaxy S, Galaxy S II. But I am sure we will have enough developer support to make it much better than stock. It is already better than stock with the few ROM's we have now. Custom kernel's will be a huge bonus. One developer here already said he is working on that.
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The phone has been out less than a month. It is also possible we will not see as many developers as a more Samsung flagship phone like Galaxy S, Galaxy S II. But I am sure we will have enough developer support to make it much better than stock. It is already better than stock with the few ROM's we have now. Custom kernel's will be a huge bonus. One developer here already said he is working on that.
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I'd be happy with something Gingerbread CM7, MIUI... cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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That I can agree with.
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Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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What does ext 4 do?
Partition the SD card? Lol
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What does ext 4 do?
Partition the SD card? Lol
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It is a MUCH more efficient file system than the stock RFS
Here's a good XDA thread on the differences:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799931
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I'd be happy with something Gingerbread CM7, MIUI... cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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yeah they will likely release the attain before they consider gb on the infuse and captivate, it is a shame because samsung clearly can deliver it if they had control over the release schedules. hopefully the nexus s 4g and evo2/evo3d will entice them to release gb slightly earlier. att would be soo much better if they had some real competition in america. t-mo is too small in america and the nexus isnt a big enough seller, verizon doesnt get updates for samsung, they manage to be slower than att in that area and motorola doesnt have an official gb on any platform that i know of yet (driox2? maybe havent looked into it) i think for att to get there act together and deliver updates when they are available from the manufacturers it will take sprint to release gb on the evo/evo2 since that phone is soo well recognised. untill there is some outside competition they will hold back updates to artificially inflate the value of the next big phones
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yeah they will likely release the attain before they consider gb on the infuse and captivate, it is a shame because samsung clearly can deliver it if they had control over the release schedules. hopefully the nexus s 4g and evo2/evo3d will entice them to release gb slightly earlier. att would be soo much better if they had some real competition in america. t-mo is too small in america and the nexus isnt a big enough seller, verizon doesnt get updates for samsung, they manage to be slower than att in that area and motorola doesnt have an official gb on any platform that i know of yet (driox2? maybe havent looked into it) i think for att to get there act together and deliver updates when they are available from the manufacturers it will take sprint to release gb on the evo/evo2 since that phone is soo well recognised. untill there is some outside competition they will hold back updates to artificially inflate the value of the next big phones
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not to mention AT&T has bought out T-Mobile anyway...
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not to mention AT&T has bought out T-Mobile anyway...
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Not approved yet and hopefully will not.
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Not approved yet and hopefully will not.
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dont hold your breath, it probably will
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dont hold your breath, it probably will
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I haven't been following the for and against arguments for this but my first thought is that it will raise prices across the board. Eliminating the carriers that offer more inexpensive options can't be good for consumers.
I doubt it will raise prices for att customers, we'll just get better service, and an actual lte rollout. Tmobile customers are the ones who are getting screwed.
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It is a MUCH more efficient file system than the stock RFS
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This is Samsung's proprietary filesystem, isn't it? I believe they use it on all of their devices that require a filesystem. It's sad that the software developers working for Samsung didn't stop to think that a FAT based filesystem (RFS) might not be the best option for their Android based devices.
so are we expected to get the official gingerbread source anytime soon or are we just dealing with leaked g.b. sources i know the epic got it a while a go or at least you can download it from samsung.com any thoughts....
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so are we expected to get the official gingerbread source anytime soon or are we just dealing with leaked g.b. sources i know the epic got it a while a go or at least you can download it from samsung.com any thoughts....
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We won't get it until after an official release, which we don't have yet.
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so are we expected to get the official gingerbread source anytime soon or are we just dealing with leaked g.b. sources i know the epic got it a while a go or at least you can download it from samsung.com any thoughts....
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I would not expect an official release anytime soon. I hope that I am wrong but don't get your hopes up. If you want better OEM software support get the Galaxy Nexus.
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I would not expect an official release anytime soon. I hope that I am wrong but don't get your hopes up. If you want better OEM software support get the Galaxy Nexus.
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The problem is Verizon and not Samsung. If you don't know this, go look up other Samsung phones, like the I9000 and I9100 to see how often they get updated. Samsung is good when it comes to supporting their newer Android phones, as long as the carriers don't screw things up, which they always do.
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The problem is Verizon and not Samsung. If you don't know this, go look up other Samsung phones, like the I9000 and I9100 to see how often they get updated. Samsung is good when it comes to supporting their newer Android phones, as long as the carriers don't screw things up, which they always do.
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I agree that the problem is Verizon. Samsung still needs to be able to produce software updates that meet the requirements of their partners (Verizon) in a timely manner otherwise the customer sees Samsung as the problem when phones from other OEMs are receiving updates.
My advice to the OP remains to get the Galaxy Nexus if you are concerned with timely software updates. Google is not going to let Verizon screw up their product.
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it's not really timely, timely i consider to be 3-6 months it has been close to a year we will get g.b. source by the time jelly bean or what ever they call it comes it is more or less a eternity
So back in December, Samsung stated that ICS would be available for Galaxy devices in Q1 2012 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397850,00.asp - among other sources).
Someone asked on Facebook when the update for the Galaxy Nexus S was coming and Samsung stated that "ICS updates for Galaxy devices will be available in early Q2." (https://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada/posts/10150560045396050)...
Idk, that may be a bit different because the Nexus S is in the original Galaxy S family. Those are going to be updated after all the Galaxy S2 devices. They actually weren't even going to release the update for those phones initially.
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Some rumors said march first, which would be q1 and not going to happen. Some leaked document i saw said april which would be early q2. God knows what they are doing over there. I want aosp/cm9 anyway, but if they release ics it might help get us closer.
I am so sick of this too.....
From now on I am only getting Nexus Devices
I'm sick of it too, but used to it. They just released official Gingerbread for the Captivate (my previous phone) a few weeks ago after XDA users had been running leaked versions for several months. But the devs here on XDA already have (as I understand it) some pretty kickass ICS roms available for the Captivate.
Don't hold your breath waiting for AT&T/Samsung. We'll have ICS here on XDA long before they make it officially available (but...without a secure element we won't be able to use Google Wallet--not sure how they're going to solve that one...re-issued sim cards maybe?)
Sounds like it's all Galaxy devices:
https://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada/posts/10150560045396050
That being said, I wasn't holding my breath either for an official release but figured when one came it might help speed up some things here on XDA or for the CM guys.
And yeah, I was running ICS on my Cappy for a couple months before it died (needed a new mobo so the cost of upgrading to the SGS II LTE was actually cheaper than the repair on my Cappy - go figure)... the official Samsung/Rogers upgrade cycle on the Cappy was horrendous as well, bought it with Froyo, an hour later had CM7 on it, and it wasn't long afte they updated officially to GB that I was running TeamHacksung ICS alpha builds on it.
We'll be lucky to get official ICS before Jellybean is released
That is Samsung mobile Canada stating that. So may be different for us in the states. But what I think is funny is the vivid is getting the update soon, and if I'm not wrong both phones came out on the same day. So no blaming this on the carrier this time. Damn Sammy LOL.
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That is Samsung mobile Canada stating that. So may be different for us in the states. But what I think is funny is the vivid is getting the update soon, and if I'm not wrong both phones came out on the same day. So no blaming this on the carrier this time. Damn Sammy LOL.
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True, it is Samsung Mobile Canada - I wasn't expecting us (or the US) to get it in Q1 anyways (officially) as the original statement I believe was for the international versions of the Galaxy S II/Note. Still, was hoping that the international stock rom would help jump/fix kinks some of the developers here are trying to overcome.
I'm in Canada, so I can only hope
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So back in December, Samsung stated that ICS would be available for Galaxy devices in Q1 2012 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397850,00.asp - among other sources).
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To clarify, they only said the international versions of the S II and the Note would get it in Q1. The others that were announced to get ICS have never been given a time frame, other than that they would follow those two.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on that point.
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To clarify, they only said the international versions of the S II and the Note would get it in Q1. The others that were announced to get ICS have never been given a time frame, other than that they would follow those two.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on that point.
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Yes, I do understand that fully. Not holding my breath that the international version will be rolling out any time soon either.
Looking into the dev forum there are two promising roms one in alpha 1 with basic functions working and another one that the mods and the dev keep fighting over is a lot further along but I think was taken down again :-(. I'm guessing we have about a month maybe a bit more before we have some awesome functioning ics rom's
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Well Q1 is still not done with, we got a whole month for them to hopefully release.
technicalities... Huge companies always drag there feet, I almost guarantee the skyrocket dev community will have ics before everyone else
ICS is ready for deployment, Samsung is waiting for approval from Google.
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ICS is ready for deployment, Samsung is waiting for approval from Google.
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Please state your sources and elaborate
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He's probably right, if the galaxy nexus has it, with an SOC which isn't so dissimilar to ours, they're probably sitting on it. I was also over in the t989 forum and it was stated the kang Juggernaut devs got an ics samsung release leak but are sitting on it as well. If they have it, guarantee for our phones its done
I'm not doubting if someone can back it up but thats the dudes first post not very reputable
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I was just speaking in common sensical terms lol, but yeah, first post is kinda shaddy if he meant it as a concrete statement. He has been lurking since July though
From Eldar tweet:
"Eldar Murtazin‏@eldarmurtazin
ICS update on the way for SGS2 9at least in Russia) - Samsung ready to deliver it and waiting for Google approval only (from Feb, 21)"
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Please state your sources and elaborate
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I'm switching to Verizon from Tmobile, I can't make up my mind on the GS3 or GN. I get a good deal threw my company and I can get either phone for $ 49.99. I want the Nexus because it has the best development and gets all the latest updates, and want the GS3 because of the amazing hardware and features...
What's should do?
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Spec wise the S3 is better, Development wise the Nexus is better but the new Nexus is coming out this year. So, it's all up to you in you want an older phone with little bit worse specs than a newer phone with better specs unless you want to wait for the new Nexus.
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Spec wise the S3 is better, Development wise the Nexus is better but the new Nexus is coming out this year. So, it's all up to you in you want an older phone with little bit worse specs than a newer phone with better specs unless you want to wait for the new Nexus.
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What does the new Nexus come out?
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What does the new Nexus come out?
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Nobody knows except for Samsung and Google. Samsung is announcing the Note 2 on August 15th so they could possibly incorporate the new Nexus but nobody knows really.
JetBlue said:
Nobody knows except for Samsung and Google. Samsung is announcing the Note 2 on August 15th so they could possibly incorporate the new Nexus but nobody knows really.
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Well, unfortunately i can't wait that long. I need to make up my mind by Friday. I guess I'm going to go with the galaxy s3. Thanks.
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Well, unfortunately i can't wait that long. I need to make up my mind by Friday. I guess I'm going to go with the galaxy s3.
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You definitely made the right choice.
We have both phones on our VZ corporate account. The GN has a few more ROMs available, but other than that the G3 is light years ahead of the obsolete GN.
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You definitely made the right choice.
We have both phones on our VZ corporate account. The GN has a few more ROMs available, but other than that the G3 is light years ahead of the obsolete GN.
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Plus the GN has almost a year of development time, it hasn't been a month yet for the GS3. Give it some time there will be some killer stuff on this phone.
Btw.. The roms and themes already available for the GS3 are fantastic, battery life is great and it will only get better. Go for the better hardware, roms will come!
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I would honestly be surprised if the next Nexus phone is available on Verizon.
The GNEX was problematic because of the CDMA radio. The whole 'not a real nexus' and all. I think google has shown us how they want to start selling Nexus devices, and it doesn't appear to involve a carrier.
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I would honestly be surprised if the next Nexus phone is available on Verizon.
The GNEX was problematic because of the CDMA radio. The whole 'not a real nexus' and all. I think google has shown us how they want to start selling Nexus devices, and it doesn't appear to involve a carrier.
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If they do this, there's no way in hell verizon would approve having a device that goes over their jurisdiction be allowed on their network. The only way you can get a device on Verizon is through them.
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If they do this, there's no way in hell verizon would approve having a device that goes over their jurisdiction be allowed on their network. The only way you can get a device on Verizon is through them.
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Well, what about the GS3 Developer edition?
I don't think you'll regret having the S3! It's been a great phone, and even though it's "locked" - there are/will be plenty of custom ROM's, hacks, and themes you can put into it!
I like the concept of the Galaxy Nexus but the screen is not as great as the S3, and even though it's only a 4.3 inch device, while the S3 is 4.8 - the S3 is the same size as the nexus and even a little thinner!!! Definitely nicer in my opinion!
Oh my, more choices.
Not sure if I should hold out for these versions but from my understanding either this dev or google version will only be 16gb?
Where as there is a 32gb currently with at&t?
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/23/galaxy-s4-developer-edition/
SysAdmNj said:
Oh my, more choices.
Not sure if I should hold out for these version but from my understanding either this dev or google version will only be 16gb?
Where as there is a 32gb currently with at&t?
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/23/galaxy-s4-developer-edition/
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damn them. lol
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damn them. lol
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Even more AT&T S4's will be on Swappa, craigslist, and ebay. All depending on the price of course. I would think it would have to come under the Google edition price for folks to be interested.
If this is priced under the Google Edition, I'll probably be putting mine up on craigslist when the Developer Edition it comes out.
Unless, of course, this could help Adam or Dan or someone else find a permanent unlock for the bootloader...
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If this is priced under the Google Edition, I'll probably be putting mine up on craigslist when the Developer Edition it comes out.
Unless, of course, this could help Adam or Dan or someone else find a permanent unlock for the bootloader...
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at&t pricing under the google edition? I seriously doubt it.
Wonder if at&t will release it before google. Samsung really whoring themselves out with this galaxy model this time around huh
Don't look now but rumor has it that HTC is coming out with a Google edition soon.
Nice! This is what I have been waiting for, best of both worlds. Just wish it was the 32gb.
If it's subsidized, I will be picking one up! Still have 2 upgrades available!!
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Don't look now but rumor has it that HTC is coming out with a Google edition soon.
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Htc one Google edition, developer edtion, or the at&t developer edition either way I liked the sgs4 screen much better.
I dont understand the point of this phone. Why not just release one model with the unlocked boot loader?
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Will LOKI ROMs and kernels even work on these phones?
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Will LOKI ROMs and kernels even work on these phones?
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They won't need loki patched roms. Bootloader is unlocked on those versions
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They won't need loki patched roms. Bootloader is unlocked on those versions
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So developers will be releasing two versions of their ROMs and kernels? One LOKI and one not?
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So developers will be releasing two versions of their ROMs and kernels? One LOKI and one not?
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No. They are not required to do so. However as a courtesy some will.
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AutoUnion said:
I dont understand the point of this phone. Why not just release one model with the unlocked boot loader?
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Two Words
MORE MONEY!!!
and to screw the people that bought the locked version of the phone!! your phone WILL be worth alot less when they hit the market. now that everybody has *****ed and blogged about the bootloader being locked on AT&T
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Two Words
MORE MONEY!!!
and to screw the people that bought the locked version of the phone!! your phone WILL be worth alot less when they hit the market. now that everybody has *****ed and blogged about the bootloader being locked on AT&T
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nope. 99% of the people buying the phone just want the phone to use, not to mod.
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nope. 99% of the people buying the phone just want the phone to use, not to mod.
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Thank you for pointing this out.
Half of the people posting on these threads no idea how to root/mod/flash anything as it is and are learning. Half of the people I talk to about my s4 being rooted don't even know what it means, I say ROM, they go "Whats thats!"
When I sold my s3, the guy had no real concept of what it meant when I said It was rooted running a stock rom...
"What does that mean?"
"Um... let me put it this way... You're getting better battery life, features, and all sorts of stuff than a regular S3 is..."
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MORE MONEY!!!
and to screw the people that bought the locked version of the phone!! your phone WILL be worth alot less when they hit the market. now that everybody has *****ed and blogged about the bootloader being locked on AT&T
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Don't think the phone will be worth less. Once the boot loader exploit is out, you don't have to deal with any of these issues
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