I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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Awesome! Welcome to the land of enormous phones!
breitlingtim said:
I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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Yeah sony needs to think long and hard about their product road map. Their cell phones are so late to the game. Doesn't bring any UI that is truly exceptional. I was a hardcore SE fan, but the Xperia X1 was such a turn off.... I love the Sony build quality but avast the software is lacking.... ((
I really like their Design of the Arc, but probably updates are far and nothing in between.... sad....
But totally glad you joined the Galaxy S class!
Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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the growth of this community is slow going though
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the growth of this community is slow going though
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The phone has been out less than a month. It is also possible we will not see as many developers as a more Samsung flagship phone like Galaxy S, Galaxy S II. But I am sure we will have enough developer support to make it much better than stock. It is already better than stock with the few ROM's we have now. Custom kernel's will be a huge bonus. One developer here already said he is working on that.
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The phone has been out less than a month. It is also possible we will not see as many developers as a more Samsung flagship phone like Galaxy S, Galaxy S II. But I am sure we will have enough developer support to make it much better than stock. It is already better than stock with the few ROM's we have now. Custom kernel's will be a huge bonus. One developer here already said he is working on that.
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I'd be happy with something Gingerbread CM7, MIUI... cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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That I can agree with.
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What does ext 4 do?
Partition the SD card? Lol
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What does ext 4 do?
Partition the SD card? Lol
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It is a MUCH more efficient file system than the stock RFS
Here's a good XDA thread on the differences:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799931
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I'd be happy with something Gingerbread CM7, MIUI... cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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yeah they will likely release the attain before they consider gb on the infuse and captivate, it is a shame because samsung clearly can deliver it if they had control over the release schedules. hopefully the nexus s 4g and evo2/evo3d will entice them to release gb slightly earlier. att would be soo much better if they had some real competition in america. t-mo is too small in america and the nexus isnt a big enough seller, verizon doesnt get updates for samsung, they manage to be slower than att in that area and motorola doesnt have an official gb on any platform that i know of yet (driox2? maybe havent looked into it) i think for att to get there act together and deliver updates when they are available from the manufacturers it will take sprint to release gb on the evo/evo2 since that phone is soo well recognised. untill there is some outside competition they will hold back updates to artificially inflate the value of the next big phones
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yeah they will likely release the attain before they consider gb on the infuse and captivate, it is a shame because samsung clearly can deliver it if they had control over the release schedules. hopefully the nexus s 4g and evo2/evo3d will entice them to release gb slightly earlier. att would be soo much better if they had some real competition in america. t-mo is too small in america and the nexus isnt a big enough seller, verizon doesnt get updates for samsung, they manage to be slower than att in that area and motorola doesnt have an official gb on any platform that i know of yet (driox2? maybe havent looked into it) i think for att to get there act together and deliver updates when they are available from the manufacturers it will take sprint to release gb on the evo/evo2 since that phone is soo well recognised. untill there is some outside competition they will hold back updates to artificially inflate the value of the next big phones
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not to mention AT&T has bought out T-Mobile anyway...
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not to mention AT&T has bought out T-Mobile anyway...
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Not approved yet and hopefully will not.
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Not approved yet and hopefully will not.
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dont hold your breath, it probably will
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dont hold your breath, it probably will
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I haven't been following the for and against arguments for this but my first thought is that it will raise prices across the board. Eliminating the carriers that offer more inexpensive options can't be good for consumers.
I doubt it will raise prices for att customers, we'll just get better service, and an actual lte rollout. Tmobile customers are the ones who are getting screwed.
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This is Samsung's proprietary filesystem, isn't it? I believe they use it on all of their devices that require a filesystem. It's sad that the software developers working for Samsung didn't stop to think that a FAT based filesystem (RFS) might not be the best option for their Android based devices.
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Hey guys, quick question. I'm not that familiar with ROM development, so I turn to you. I highly doubt that we can count on sammy to develop gingerbread for us, so do we think that it will even be possible to port it? Reading design gears thread, it seems that he can't quite get true AOSP running on the captivate because of how heavily samsung has modified the OS, does this mean that we will never see sweet 3.0? If that's the case, than it might be time to sell and buy a nexus one...
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this is a bump
Samsung-Firmwares posted this 8 hours ago:
"We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S"
They also posted that Samsung is working on a new fw to be released in November...
COOL! Thanks so much for your reply, I would love to see an official release from samsung, although the november release is most likely froyo
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The messed up thing is they shouldn't be 'thinking' about it. It should be a definite. This is supposed to be the best hardware ever released on a phone so there's no reason why it shouldn't be available. If its not, although i love the galaxy s, i will never buy another Samsung product in my life
*rubs crystal ball*
I see our xmas gift as Android 2.2...
And Easter of next year, Samsung makes an announcement that 3.0 is cominig to the Galaxy S phones in the US..
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*rubs crystal ball*
I see our xmas gift as Android 2.2...
And Easter of next year, Samsung makes an announcement that 3.0 is cominig to the Galaxy S phones in the US..
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My crystal ball tells me that Samsung will release 3.0 with a new Galaxy S II phone and leave current Galaxy S onwers hang and dry.
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My crystal ball tells me that Samsung will release 3.0 with a new Galaxy S II phone and leave current Galaxy S onwers hang and dry.
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I'll wager they don't do this.I'll wager there will lots of happy Galaxy owners this time next year.We won't have the fastest phone..but we will have stable releases by Samsung..or the developers here will port it over anyways
Either way..it's going to be interesting to say the least for those of us that keep them
Mac
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The messed up thing is they shouldn't be 'thinking' about it. It should be a definite. This is supposed to be the best hardware ever released on a phone so there's no reason why it shouldn't be available. If its not, although i love the galaxy s, i will never buy another Samsung product in my life
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I feel the same way. It seems that Samsung and AT&T have adopted the "pay for it now, we will make it work for you later attitude".
What a load of crap.
I may be 18 and lacking the amount of knowledge and experience of those here at XDA older then me, but I know that's not how you treat your customers. That just isn't right.
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Stop buy anything from Samsung. Problem solved.
Its true, if this kind of hardware was an htc phone we'd be set until android 4.0 at least, also I bet anything that the evo gets 3.0 and thats an older phone than ours...i also wonder how far the nexus one will get updated...
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Its true, if this kind of hardware was an htc phone we'd be set until android 4.0 at least, also I bet anything that the evo gets 3.0 and thats an older phone than ours...i also wonder how far the nexus one will get updated...
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That wasn't my experience with the HTC Touch HD which at the time was supposed to be the best of the best in hardware.
So, AndroidAndMe.com posted a rumor about Samsung is going to have a new Google-Experience phone running on new hardware (Tegra 2 based) and Gingerbread ready by the end of 2010.
There goes your dream any Galaxy S phones getting Generbread ever.
Why would you say that? Samsung released the Galaxy S to 4 carriers, and are DIRECTLY competing with Apple with hardware aimed at the iPad and even the iPod Touch! Why anyone would think Samsung would just drop a top of the line smartphone on us and hang us out to dry is very stupid, and not very thought out.
Samsung, if possible, WILL "think" about Gingerbread. And by "think" they don't mean mull it over some peanuts and beer, they mean QA, hardware analysis, software development. They didn't come along to latch a customer on for a year, they came on to steal the market from Apple, and the latest Beta Froyo should let you all know they're doing alot more than thinking about it.
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Why would you say that?
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Because I have owned 5 Samsung Smartphones and couple DVD players as well as their top of line Blu Ray players. And they did exactly like I said to every single product I purchased.
Samsung's market strategy is to blanket market with latest and greatest hardware every 6 months or so. Everything they released so far always have something unfinished or not working. By the time they fix all the issues, the existing product is discontinued and a new generation of the product is already on the market. And the cycle continues.
Problem with phones are the 2 year contract. If samsung just leaves everyone who bought a galaxy s phone out to dry, so much for potential sales for our next phone.
Anyways, since the galaxy tab will (?) receive gingerbread, i'm hopefull it will be on our phones, through samsung or xda.
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Just go ask those samsung behold owners about how samsung treated those who purchased their first android phones.
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I feel the same way. It seems that Samsung and AT&T have adopted the "pay for it now, we will make it work for you later attitude".
What a load of crap.
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i dont understand what this has to so with att? i keep on seeing the blame put on att but the vibrant doesnt have anything that the captivate doesn't have 'cept for hsupa. if the vibrant had froyo and plans for ginger bread then yeah i could see att getting thrown in but att doesnt decide the fate of the whole galaxy s line. froyo is coming, gingerbread might be or might not be, i have a fealing that froyo will be realesed on the whole galaxy s usa line about the same time, and they may be holding back on the gsm phones untill it is ready for the cdma phones which will take longer as there are more differences in hardware for the epic and fascinate. i have an aquaintance at samsung who is a senior engineer for the cdma phones. he cant give me details but in general he said they are working around the clock on the froyo update and there shouldn't be an unusually long wait. for what ever that's worth. i dont know about gingerbread but i can only hope.
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i have an aquaintance at samsung who is a senior engineer for the cdma phones. he cant give me details but in general he said they are working around the clock on the froyo update and there shouldn't be an unusually long wait. for what ever that's worth. i dont know about gingerbread but i can only hope.
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So he can tell you about Froyo but not about plans or no plans for Gingerbread? What about what they're improving in the Froyo build that's taking it so long?
will we ever see gingerbread??? we are still waiting for an official Froyo, so just wondering ur thoughts on gingerbread release date for our phones...
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will we ever see gingerbread??? we are still waiting for an official Froyo, so just wondering ur thoughts on gingerbread release date for our phones...
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When there is a will there is a way. Chances are it will be a long time if ever but, I am sure we will see custom roms eventually
Most likely we will not see it In our phones
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Get real, anyone who reads this thread is gonna buy the newest latest greatest anyways.
Who cares about Gingerbread on our phone.
True
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With the Nexus S already sporting it and google actually programming for a Galaxy phone, the chances of Gingerbread are very good.
Google is already optimizing it for the hummingbird as we speak, it'll be easier for Samsung to port it to their other devices.
Before it was easy to port to the EVO and everything else just because the nexus one had very similar CPUs to all of them.
How do you know its using the same processor as our galaxy s phones?
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Most of the speculations suggest that it has a different processor, just saying.......
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not everyone has the money to outright buy the phone in feb and even if u got your cap at release your a long ways from an upgrade I will pay 600 or whatever it is because i have to have it. And I really think samsung working on froyo was a waste, seeing as how gingerbread is coming out soon, should have just upgraded to that next.
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not everyone has the money to outright buy the phone in feb and even if u got your cap at release your a long ways from an upgrade I will pay 600 or whatever it is because i have to have it. And I really think samsung working on froyo was a waste, seeing as how gingerbread is coming out soon, should have just upgraded to that next.
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Lol we don't see any evidence of Samsung putting effort into Froyo. I know there have been a few build leaks, but c'mon, you don't really think they put a ounce of sweat into it right?
Here's the Samsung dev team: 1 coder that plays starcraft at work and breaks a few things every now and then
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Lol we don't see any evidence of Samsung putting effort into Froyo. I know there have been a few build leaks, but c'mon, you don't really think they put a ounce of sweat into it right?
Here's the Samsung dev team: 1 coder that plays starcraft at work and breaks a few things every now and then
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lol, agreed. Don't know why so much talk about "Gingerbread"
We don't even have "Froyo" yet, only the leaked version. And even then, when the official release does come out, I won't be upgrading. Too bloated when AT&T get's their hands on it. I'll stick with the customs.
Plus I think most of the people in here that has any of the Galaxy S phones will most likely part ways when "Gingerbread" is out. I know I will (and I don't think our Galaxy S phones will get it either).
I also believe there is no "GPS fix" for our phones in the future either and there won't be one.
Haven't been proven wrong yet. (Remember the GPS "improvement" in September) What a JOKE!
Samsung = Fail in Customer Support
Future Phrase: "It was fun while it lasted"
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lol, agreed. Don't know why so much talk about "Gingerbread"
We don't even have "Froyo" yet, only the leaked version. And even then, when the official release does come out, I won't be upgrading. Too bloated when AT&T get's their hands on it. I'll stick with the customs.
Plus I think most of the people in here that has any of the Galaxy S phones will most likely part ways when "Gingerbread" is out. I know I will (and I don't think our Galaxy S phones will get it either).
I also believe there is no "GPS fix" for our phones in the future either and there won't be one.
Haven't been proven wrong yet. (Remember the GPS "improvement" in September) What a JOKE!
Samsung = Fail in Customer Support
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Shame since by just about every spec, the galaxy s is ahead of it's time. If only samsung supported it and the a droid market actually apps to push it.
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Shame since by just about every spec, the galaxy s is ahead of it's time. If only samsung supported it and the a droid market actually apps to push it.
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That's the problem, Samsung figured if it put in all the most powerful toys in a single package and didn't give a crap about how it was put together or how the software is to make it actually work, it'd still sell on specs alone.
And they were right.
So they now have absolutely no incentive to make a more quality phone in the future. They're just lucking out that Google is choosing them to be the next Nexus (if rumors/leaks are true, of course).
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Shame since by just about every spec, the galaxy s is ahead of it's time. If only samsung supported it and the a droid market actually apps to push it.
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Yea, corporate enterprises sucks when it comes to customer support.
All about the $$$ in the end.
A lot of marketing by Samsung, think they want to brand everything Galaxy???
I'll be buying my galaxy M microwave tomorrow.
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Yea, corporate enterprises sucks when it comes to customer support.
All about the $$$ in the end.
A lot of marketing by Samsung, think they want to brand everything Galaxy???
I'll be buying my galaxy M microwave tomorrow.
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Here is the problem samsung doesn't seem to get. We buy their phones on a two year contract. They get paid monthly or whatever from AT&T for us signing up for two years. Who in the $&$& wants to buy their phone when you don't even get a full six months of support from samsung. I have to pay AT&T for two years to buy this phone. I know apple gets paid monthly from AT&T as part of their subsidation process. I bet samsung does too. They get paid for nothing. What a rip.
2.2 should have been released sept at the latest. Things should be gearing up for 2.3.... And we are still waiting for 2.2... Last samsung phone.
Anyone who wants to can install the leaked 2.2. I have, it's rooted, and has lagfix installed. It's very fast and GPS works great...I'm just sayin'.
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Anyone who wants to can install the leaked 2.2. I have, it's rooted, and has lagfix installed. It's very fast and GPS works great...I'm just sayin'.
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Been there done that still have broken gps. I bought the captivate assuming they would fix the gps. I still doubt that broad com would somehow make a gps module that doesn't work.
Agreed, I had a captivate with a go phone sim in it, and now have a fascinate on vzw, we actually got a leak last week,( if u thought att was behind hear this) is was eclair, it did address and fix, GPS Fully, but this is a eclair maintenance update scheduled to come out in December. I don't know about everyone else but I could give a duck less is they give me the greatest eclair ever made. I don't want it. Even tho I knew better when I got this phone I was told "you will have 2.2 within the month" welll its been forever and not a mention
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Agreed, I had a captivate with a go phone sim in it, and now have a fascinate on vzw, we actually got a leak last week,( if u thought att was behind hear this) is was eclair, it did address and fix, GPS Fully, but this is a eclair maintenance update scheduled to come out in December. I don't know about everyone else but I could give a duck less is they give me the greatest eclair ever made. I don't want it. Even tho I knew better when I got this phone I was told "you will have 2.2 within the month" welll its been forever and not a mention
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Now that is scary! Why would they still be working on 2.1?
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Here is the problem samsung doesn't seem to get. We buy their phones on a two year contract. They get paid monthly or whatever from AT&T for us signing up for two years. Who in the $&$& wants to buy their phone when you don't even get a full six months of support from samsung. I have to pay AT&T for two years to buy this phone. I know apple gets paid monthly from AT&T as part of their subsidation process. I bet samsung does too. They get paid for nothing. What a rip.
2.2 should have been released sept at the latest. Things should be gearing up for 2.3.... And we are still waiting for 2.2... Last samsung phone.
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Apple may have a special deal but other Phone makers do not. Samsung, Moto, HTC - they sell through many channels, not just AT&T - and they sell off contract.
The way it works for hardware:
AT&T buys phones from Samsung... probably about $300 per phone. They sell them subsidized for $200 or maybe $0.99 or they sell it unsubsidized for $499. Samsung makes their profit on the phone sale when they wholesale them to AT&T.
Updates are created by Samsung on behalf of the carrier. If AT&T doesn't want to bother with an update, then the manufacturer doesn't create it. Again, this goes for Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc. It has been this way for WinMo and Android. Nothing new here.
Believe it or not, Apple also sells the phones for fixed price to AT&T. They may make money on some monthly cut, but that is a separate deal. But don't compare Apple, they have a deal different from every other phone maker out there.
Its on Gingerbread and im sure it will get Ice Cream or whatever, will it get the one after that though? And what about even after that!
I just want a phone that can last me a long time (at least 2 years)
NS has everything I want and need, as long it has the latest updates im good, and I dont like to root and rom and stuff, I just want all stock stuff.
With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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Doubt it. They'd drop support for the Nexus One before NS.
the nexus series last longer than regular android phones. So you shouldn't be too Worried.
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Today's phones are like computers. It'll last as long as it does what you want it to do. Once you feel that your phone no longer can do what you want it to do, then thats when it has become personally obsolete and time to replace. Generally I would replace my phone every year, because it seems a new phone would release with a new feature that I would want to make my everyday communication needs much more efficient.
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It should last a very long time and get every update Google throws at it
I mean there's only so much u can add to a phone dual core better camera better screen.....
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Today's phones are like computers. It'll last as long as it does what you want it to do. Once you feel that your phone no longer can do what you want it to do, then thats when it has become personally obsolete and time to replace. Generally I would replace my phone every year, because it seems a new phone would release with a new feature that I would want to make my everyday communication needs much more efficient.
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totally agreed, I find myself struggling with the iOS/Droid battle, but i usually try to stick with a phone for at least a quarter. i have problems
i think the nexus s will be supported, after all, the nexus one came out with eclair and got both froyo and gingerbread. im just trying to decide which phone to get, an epic or a nexus S 4g.
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With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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Lol. Go check out the atrix dev section.
The phone will last a long time I bet!
How ever, 3G access will die within a year.
I can deal with Edge, but other people can't. I don't know what I'm going to do, I hate AT&T and hate CDMA.
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The phone will last a long time I bet!
How ever, 3G access will die within a year.
I can deal with Edge, but other people can't. I don't know what I'm going to do, I hate AT&T and hate CDMA.
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Can you please elaborate?
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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huh? I'm talking about the custom roms etc ... am I missing something?
Probably quite a while.
I would assume the Ice Cream update would be the biggest leap so far, especially if its going to bring Honeycomb features to phones. (ie hardware acceleration, holograpic UI etc.)
And the Nexus One/S would probably the only phones to get the update for a while.
You should be worried when they stop support for the Nexus One first.
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Can you please elaborate?
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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Oh man! You scared me for a second! I thought ATT was going to get rid of 3G and only go 4G or something! ATT has always been good to me so I cant wait to get my ATT NS!
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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thats a minimum of a year away, IF the FCC even allows it. I would doubt they would do that to t-mobile users..........
Not to mention it would be a material breach of contract and allow millions out of a contract. Wouldn't be a very smart move IMO.
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thats a minimum of a year away, IF the FCC even allows it. I would doubt they would do that to t-mobile users..........
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and canadian towers.. i believe not 100% sure but i remember AllGamer saying something about this?
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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Hmm I've noticed that the Dev section isn't as booming as I thought it would be considering this is a Nexus phone. I'd assume that that's because the phone was only released on T-Mobile (and some other places in UK) until very recently?
Will the dev section pick up once the AT&T, Sprint and the Canadian carriers pick it up, or did people just decide to skip over the Nexus S for some reason? I'll assume it's the former.
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I'd assume that that's because the phone was only released on T-Mobile (and some other places in UK) until very recently?
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AFAIK, it's been available in uk since it's original December launch.
So it's been a little while since we've seen a new leak. I'm thinking Gingerbread is now done and in the hands of AT&T. What do you guys think? please, discuss.
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So it's been a little while since we've seen a new leak. I'm thinking Gingerbread is now done and in the hands of AT&T. What do you guys think? please, discuss.
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Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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Gingerbread's clearly coming... Look at all the leaks. They aren't just made to tease.
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Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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And the Infuse actually sold extremely well. I worked at an AT&T store.
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The infuse was #2 selling phone all summer
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I've met some ignorant people but some of these posts are mind boggling. Like they manage to ignore the entire forum just to respond to a single post and give their opinion about att.. We only have about 6 or 8 leaks for new firmware on a pretty regular release schedule and an att announcement that we get GB in 2011 and several threads showing the infuse as a top seller but we get responses like these.
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I've met some ignorant people but some of these posts are mind boggling. Like they manage to ignore the entire forum just to respond to a single post and give their opinion about att.. We only have about 6 or 8 leaks for new firmware on a pretty regular release schedule and an att announcement that we get GB in 2011 and several threads showing the infuse as a top seller but we get responses like these.
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So, we are 99% sure that we will get it. LOL At least by early to mid January, right.
But seriously, I hear you Dani, I love my phone and can't understand why since the SG2 and Nexus and Atrix are out suddenly people call ours ****e? It is annoying. Our phone is top quality.
Besides, after reading the discussion in the leak threads about how the video issue came up with all of the modded kernels and most importantly the assumption that AT&T developers care about what we do here at the forums so much that they use us as guinea pigs(in a good way) they stopped releasing leaks until they were ready for the official, I just took those words for GOLD and decided we are waiting. Was I wrong?
I think the OP thinks to much
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CheesyNutz said:
I think the OP thinks to much
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[email protected] Cheesy
But seriously, can you think too much when software development is involved?
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I think the OP thinks to much
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Maybe I do, but it seems pretty probable to me, Cheesy
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Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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1) Yes, AT&T Doesn't give a damn about firmware updates.
2) The Infuse sold extremely well.
3) I've seen very little advertising on the Skyrocket, yet continue to see ads for the Infuse (as recently as this past week on TV and yesterday in a target flyer.)
I've decided I can live with the ROMS in our forums here and AT&T can kiss my shiny metal arse.
Well, not sure if this is any indication, but my local Walmart is selling infuse cases, as well as screen protectors, while there is nothing on the SGSII or Skyrocket. Honestly I think Samsung is spewing out more expensive versions of practically the same phone, and the Infuse is the OG in this siuation. *thinks of carbon copying phones, and sees a conspiracy theory!*
Since I follow these forums as well as the Xperia Play forums, my hypothesis is:
-They were testing GB
-They LOLragequit and decided to make all newer android phones upgradeable to ICS
-they plan on releasing ICS in January or February.
I know these are some out-there speculations, but AT&T tends to send firmware updates in batches, and it has been confirmed by Sony Ericsson that they are planning on ICS for the Play by February 2012.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.
What I think is that as usual att is behind schedule. Maybe Samsung put us off while developing a whole new line. Either way I doubt we will see official this month. but the idea we will never see it is just ignoring the evidence. They wouldn't be working on it so aggressively if they didn't intend to release it. Also since att probably only wanted one update the wait is kinda a good thing since we'll get at least 2.3.6 and not 2.3.3 like Rogers got.
I honestly don't think we will see gb officially. Bit I have had gingerbread on my phone for a while now
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I think the Infuse is a decent phone.
Already fast.
Dual core means didily squat...to me, it a phone. If you want fast, get a tablet or netbook or laptop.
4.5" is just right in my back pocket or breast pocket.
GB leak is prob near completion.
I'm expecting a OTA within a month or two.
If it doesn't, UCKK4 stock is fine for me as well.
Some of the tweaks added to CatyROM (acid, thunderbolt or adrenaline) or some we can add ourselves may be better than the release....unless samsung has been follow the threads and incorporate them into the new release.
my2cents...
my next phone should have a neuro connection I can jam into my brain. It'll be instant like my thoughts. It'll run off my stored fat. And I will be assimilated
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The infuse was #2 selling phone all summer
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Right after the iPhone, and it would still be if it weren't for the new models.
What people don't seem to get, is that AT&T is also deving for the phone, they encounter the same issues that our devs encounter. Bluetooth issues, HDMI output, the only difference is that they are "Official Updates" because they are carrier released.
The only good conclusion about no leaks, is that it got it's kinks worked out and its in the final stages of testing to make sure no kinks were left untreated.
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What I think is that as usual att is behind schedule. Maybe Samsung put us off while developing a whole new line. Either way I doubt we will see official this month. but the idea we will never see it is just ignoring the evidence. They wouldn't be working on it so aggressively if they didn't intend to release it. Also since att probably only wanted one update the wait is kinda a good thing since we'll get at least 2.3.6 and not 2.3.3 like Rogers got.
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This could be very true. remember the backflip, that thing got its update to 2.1 like 4 months after it was planned. and to be honest, AT&T never said by years end. it said is 2011 android line will expect to receive gingerbread.
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Customers who purchased an Android smartphone from AT&T introduced in 2011 can expect to receive an update to Android 2.3. All of these devices are planned to be upgraded from Android 2.2 to Android 2.3, also referred to as Gingerbread. In addition, Samsung Captivate™ owners will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread.
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Customers who purchased an Android in 2011 will EXPECT a update. no where on there does it says by years end.
Actually, it says "Can EXPECT". Frankly, I can expect to win the lottery and magic beans to sprout in my garden.
The possibilities are endless!
We will get it people...like dani said...they are not gonna waste time and resources to develop these leaks to just not update us....its not logical and frankly doesn't make sense....have patience people...
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They spent all the time and money on developing the leaks just to keep the profit margin down. That way taxes are to high.
Damn, we have some really pessimistic people in these forums. All I wanted was a discussion.thread, not an AT&T sucks thread :/
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I keep hearing that Sammy's perspective is that there is no "financial incentive" to provide updates to old phones. Well here is one. I will never buy another samsung android phone so long as they have this policy. I will also tell everyone who will listen to do the same.
I know that if they do not support devices as recent as the SGS4G, it is only a matter of time before their new devices are unsupported.
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Heh, Raver and I were talking about why they would wind up not giving ICS to the Vibrant and it was for this reason. They're a capitalist company, and updating older phones would not be good for business. People wouldn't have an incentive to upgrade if they got the latest software all the time.
I am a little mad that they're not going to update the T959V to ICS since it falls within the 18 month time window that they're supposed to provide upgrades for. Go figure.
Yeah Sammy really wiped it's ass with the pledge it made to Google about the 18 month window.
Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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I agree with you. Hardware is a good enough incentive, but samsung is too greedy and cheap to provide the software updates for their older device. The SGS 4G is still relative new too. This is why there are people still buying, using, and praising Apple. Their support and service put samsung to shame.
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Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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Upgrades come once every 2 years unless you drop 600 in a phone. The bs is that a new phone with better hardware comes out every 4 months and all other phones no longer get supported due to " hardware" or some crap. The galaxy s3 is coming out in a few months. Wanna bet my galaxy s2 won't be able to run android 5.0 due to hardware limitations. There are phones with weaker specs than my sgs4g that are getting ics. It's corporate greed on Sammy's part really. This is the one area, in my opinion, that apple does right. They support their devices for a good couple years. Samsung could, they just don't.
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hey, remember the 18 month window. Well we should all make a petition about this phone only. And also give a copy to Google.
Well that isn't final news. So lets keep fingers crossed.
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hey, remember the 18 month window. Well we should all make a petition about this phone only. And also give a copy to Google.
Well that isn't final news. So lets keep fingers crossed.
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I read something about an official statement saying Samsung is not going to update
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The sad thing is, by the time to you drop 600 on the latest phone, it's already outdated.
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The sad thing is, by the time to you drop 600 on the latest phone, it's already outdated.
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Just about.
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Samsung failure to provide future support - opinion
I for one, have always liked Samsung phones, since my Captivate, then Vibrant, when I switched to tmobile, to the SGS4G. It was a blessing to see Gingerbread release and source for the SGS4G. Especially since it is so different from the other Galaxy S cousins. The Vibrant is still waiting for Gingerbread, and they have a petition to hopefully convince Samsung into at least giving a Gingerbread update.
I would be satisfied if they would release their Driver source or at least the driver API and associated libs so we as a community ( or on your own ) can build ICS or any other version for our phones after they drop support.
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I would be satisfied if they would release their Driver source or at least the driver API and associated libs so we as a community ( or on your own ) can build ICS or any other version for our phones after they drop support.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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Where'd you read this?
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Where'd you read this?
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I would also like to know this. I have read several articles where Sammy says nothing will be released afterall.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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They made mention of a value pack, but scrapped the idea 2 days later.
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The nexus line will always get the update first after all base updates comes from google then google will give the source codes to the other company.
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Sammie's loss, 'cause all I can say is, I'm stuck with 14 months left on this contract, and looks like I'm going back to HTC after that.
This also helps me to decide on my new tablet... and the brand won't be Samsung now.
I love my phone ... but I hate Samsung.
They are a bunch of capitalist bastards. I understand that everyone is out to make money, but as it was mentioned, many people have 2 year contracts with their phone company. I for one refuse to pay $600 for a phone. That is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. And personally I know many others who feel the same way ... we wait until our upgrade is available and then upgrade to the best possible option.
For those of us that feel the way that we do, not supporting their older devices just drives a knife between Samsung and us. Whether they support our phone or not... I will have this phone until my contract is up. If Samsung does not support my device I can assure you this will be my last Samsung device that I will ever purchase.
I always found that odd, like simple math escapes the masses or some lol - kats refuse to pay 600 for a phone outright, but those same kats are cool with taking it in the ass for 2 years and paying 2136 in that time frame (basic Tmo 89 a month unlimited/limited plan)
...which means you're paying a **** ton more than 600 for that phone lol
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I completely understand everyone's frustrations with capitalism, but Samsung is no different than any other large or small corporation blatantly raping our asses for cash (car insurance is a great example) - that's what we're all born and bred to do, become consumers, nothing more, nothing less - everyone on this god forsaken planet epitomizes insanity with their 9-5 lives of compliance, mediocrity and consumer slavery, don't do a damn thing about it, but then expect the slave owners to listen when they have a problem with the dirty spoon they're forced to eat with - lol wake the [email protected] up ..meh, better yet, simply continue to live your life in a dream world thinking you're unique and special ..just like everyone else - yeah, it's much easier that way lol - c'est la vie