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Will WP7 Root Tools ever come to HTC devices or will they remain only for Samsungs? I know that 0.9 is being worked on and was just wondering if this will be the version that was said would work on LG's and HTC's.

EDIT: Original post was probably snarkier than it needed to be. It's still a very *odd* thing to see from a three-year forum member, though. Snark reduced by at least 50% anyhow
The current version is 0.8
Version 0.9 is being worked on
The very first post for 0.8 says "The next version of WP7 Root Tools will run on more devices, like HTC and LG"
People have asked about supporting multiple device OEMs (on the app's thread, of all places) and been told that it's coming in 0.9
About 27 hours ago, Heathcliff74 posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23938958&postcount=286
I'm gonna go *way* out on a limb, here, and guess that it will, in fact, "ever come to HTC."

GoodDayToDie said:
EDIT: Original post was probably snarkier than it needed to be. It's still a very *odd* thing to see from a three-year forum member, though. Snark reduced by at least 50% anyhow
The current version is 0.8
Version 0.9 is being worked on
The very first post for 0.8 says "The next version of WP7 Root Tools will run on more devices, like HTC and LG"
People have asked about supporting multiple device OEMs (on the app's thread, of all places) and been told that it's coming in 0.9
About 27 hours ago, Heathcliff74 posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23938958&postcount=286
I'm gonna go *way* out on a limb, here, and guess that it will, in fact, "ever come to HTC."
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Hum, I saw the Samsung and the LGtest.xap's but no HTC. Well I gues not for now.

sinister1 said:
Hum, I saw the Samsung and the LGtest.xap's but no HTC. Well I gues not for now.
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These XAPs are to find out more about the Samsung Gen2 and LG compatibility with his Root Tools and find errors with those phones. He clearly states he has tested HTC Mango with v1 drivers and it works so he doesn't need a test XAP to give out right now for HTC.
- Samsung 1st generation with Interop Unlock: OK
- Samsung 1st generation with Custom ROM and Full Unlock: OK
- HTC 1st generation with Mango v1 drivers and Interop Unlock: OK
- HTC 1st generation with Custom ROM and Full Unlock: OK
My guess is Heathcliff will not release his tool until he has done everything he can to make it work with LG and Samsung Gen2. Once he has exhausted efforts then he will release for all (yes, he could release something now for us HTC users but he wants to have it work for most people).

I'm also not certain that the app is ready in its current form. If his development pattern is anything like mine, he probably mixes straighforward feature development and debugging with investigating and creating hacks to support additional devices. Just because he's managed to get the elevation of privileges working on HTC and Samsung gen1 doesn't necessarily mean that the new features which are coming in 0.9 are fully release-ready yet.
Nonetheless, the information we have so far is encouraging, and while I wouldn't start holding your breath yet, the little he has said so far sounds like release is getting very close.

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[Q] Where to find Rooting Guides??

Hey guys, I just moved to android nd i wanna root my Desire S. The problem is that its S-On. Also, i can't seem to find anythng particular about rooting. I ws able to jailbreak my iPod for the first time in 1/2 an hour wid the help of Redmondpie and a youtube channel. So, r there any good sites which have (noob friendly) rooting guides? Is there any youtube channel i shud subscribe to? Thanks !
have u even looked at this forum? why are there 100 posts with rooting about s-on? easy: it's not possible.
get a xtc clip if u want to root, beside that there is no way (yet)
@Blezz is completely right at least search and read before asking, otherwise the forum just gets polluted with the same question over and over....
anyway, for your answer, read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076937
I feel that the root of desire htc s is not a priority for developers and hackers.Dommage for their owners.
well time will show, i am sure sometime there will come the right romleak from our hero 911sniper
Historically HTC android phones always had the best rooting support and dev community. But this year HTC changed their policy and decided to start encrypting their boot loaders. So its a complete change in philosophy and quite honestly I think this is a very bad decision by HTC. They may alienate their user base.
Look at the new Samsung galaxy s2, comes with an unlocked boot loader. Tides could be shifting, that's for sure.
RogerPodacter said:
Historically HTC android phones always had the best rooting support and dev community. But this year HTC changed their policy and decided to start encrypting their boot loaders. So its a complete change in philosophy and quite honestly I think this is a very bad decision by HTC. They may alienate their user base.
Look at the new Samsung galaxy s2, comes with an unlocked boot loader. Tides could be shifting, that's for sure.
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Definitely I am deeply disappointed with the desire s hardware, when you come out with a next generation phone users expect a next step up like the galaxy s2. HTC will lose out to Samsung and so. Even Sony Ericsson that I dislike before are making the right moves I should have gotten a SE arc or waited for the neo.
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I am also disapointed by HTC's decision to lock Android OS. It does not allow me to use many usefull applications from Andriod market and restricts the basic functionality, such as taking screenshots and making backup. I would prefer to know it before buying the phone from HTC.
As to the rooting, I am afraid that the system upgrades come nowadays over air providing not enough information on the security unlocking. What do you think?
For now its imposible to S-Off Desire S without XTC clip...
But time will change everythings dude
For me DS is enough without root
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wouldn't be too sure if time will change it
we would need a android 2.4 update for it, cause a 2.3.4 update would be so small that i don't think htc would use a engineering bootloader to develop it
Blezz said:
wouldn't be too sure if time will change it
we would need a android 2.4 update for it, cause a 2.3.4 update would be so small that i don't think htc would use a engineering bootloader to develop it
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Yes
Is there a statement from htc IF and WHEN the DesireS WILL be updated to 2.3.4?
(For the htchero the 2.1 updates came 8(!) month later than the official google update...)
there isn't, but i think the desire s will get the 2.3.4 update cause it's only small jump from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 and 2.3.4 is supporting front camera so it would be in htc's marketing sense
need root access pliz
GUYS, RELAX !!!!!!! I wasn't asking for Desire S rooting guides, just rooting guides in general, so if you know any sites where i can learn about flashing roms and kernels and about other stuff, (again, NOT FOR DESIRE S BUT IN GENERAL) do post them here. I forgot that i even posted this thread. An email reminded me
well the main page for rooting is... well.. u tried xda-developers.com ? seriously, rooting is device specific, not every rooting program works for every device, so you have to look here yourself for the devices u are interested, or look at the general android forum here at tools like OneClickRoot or Visionary etc. which work for some devices but also not for all

Sideloading in 2nd generation WP7.5 devices.

I remember back when the 1st generation WP7 handsets were launched, sideloading was a hot topic and everybody discusses about it. Soon after, Chevron came up with an unlock which allowed sideloading and users were happy.
But when 2nd generation WP7.5 handsets were launched, I see virtually no discussions at all about sideloading on these phones, and I think it's a waste. It'd be great to have the discussions going on how this can be done, who can do it, what needs to be available for it to be done. Soon maybe XDA will come up with a way to unlock the 2nd generation handsets and allow sideloading?
Or is XDA almost exclusive to Android already?
Microsoft's official jailbreak tool will be released soon and will be compatible with 2nd generation WP7 devices, so you'll be able to sideload. It won't be free, but I'm almost sure that, after the release, someone will work out how to do It for free.
xcen_xda said:
I remember back when the 1st generation WP7 handsets were launched, sideloading was a hot topic and everybody discusses about it. Soon after, Chevron came up with an unlock which allowed sideloading and users were happy.
But when 2nd generation WP7.5 handsets were launched, I see virtually no discussions at all about sideloading on these phones, and I think it's a waste. It'd be great to have the discussions going on how this can be done, who can do it, what needs to be available for it to be done. Soon maybe XDA will come up with a way to unlock the 2nd generation handsets and allow sideloading?
Or is XDA almost exclusive to Android already?
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this thread talks about sideloading on 7.5 for some time now. The only devices which are not covered at the moment are HTCs, but it's just a matter of time.
so, yes, there are discussions here for 2nd generation devices. Sideloading is not a limitation of the hardware version (1st or 2nd generation) but of the OS and people are working on 7.5 and already have solutions for many devices.
AshleyT said:
Microsoft's official jailbreak tool will be released soon and will be compatible with 2nd generation WP7 devices, so you'll be able to sideload. It won't be free, but I'm almost sure that, after the release, someone will work out how to do It for free.
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Nice. But I wonder if they will set any limitations on that unlock? I'm a bit skeptical because it's Microsoft who locks it, and now it's Microsoft who unlocks it. Not sure if we will enjoy more, or less freedom.
derausgewanderte said:
this thread talks about sideloading on 7.5 for some time now. The only devices which are not covered at the moment are HTCs, but it's just a matter of time.
so, yes, there are discussions here for 2nd generation devices. Sideloading is not a limitation of the hardware version (1st or 2nd generation) but of the OS and people are working on 7.5 and already have solutions for many devices.
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I think the interop-unlock is for first generation devices that come with 7.5? I'm not sure, but according to the instructions it only works if you revert back to NoDo? I think new WP7.5 devices (non-HTC) like Omnia W, Focus S, Lumia 800 may not work because they dont' have NoDo to revert back to? Again I'm not so sure about it...
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I think the interop-unlock is for first generation devices that come with 7.5? I'm not sure, but according to the instructions it only works if you revert back to NoDo? I think new WP7.5 devices (non-HTC) like Omnia W, Focus S, Lumia 800 may not work because they dont' have NoDo to revert back to? Again I'm not so sure about it...
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Take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963
This should also work with the new Samsung phones.
derausgewanderte said:
...The only devices which are not covered at the moment are HTCs...
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and the Dell Venue Pro...

ChevronWP7 and 7003

Could someone remind me: is ChevronWP7 unlock working on the 7003 build or I need 6541 or earlier builds?
Eh???
I think the 7004 is the true version come with all 1st gen Windows Phone, why you have 7003?
BTW, Chevron WP7 work with 7004 and 7008(pre-Nodo)
Strike_Eagle said:
Eh???
I think the 7004 is the true version come with all 1st gen Windows Phone, why you have 7003?
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Because I'm talking about Samsung Taylor (probably you are also never heard about). It's a free developer's phone sent by Microsoft last year August. Yep, it's 1-st gen but still good and useful phone (especially if you replaced stock 8Gb memory on micro-SD to 16 Gb, and bought extra-life battery. BTW, it stays with 7003 two or three times longer than my Focus with "advanced" battery It also have a ff cam but without drivers )
Unfortunately 7003 is a last firmware MS sent to us, developers (and nobody received update). By the rumors, some late Taylors was shipped with 7004, and some guys are able to update to Mango (however there is no such a thing like flsClean_7004.ffu exists on internet, all handsets was shipped with 7004 onboard).
This handset don't have (or may be I'm mistaken 'cause restore directly 7003 bits, not original or previous release) Diagnosis app so interop-unlock not possible. I've tried ChevronWP7 but w/o success (I can unregister easily but can't register), what's why I'm asking...
P.S. BTW, thanks for reply - if it works on 7004, it should work on 7003 (later MS closed that backdoor... ).
The No-Do Update is the Chevron Fix from Microsoft. People still have the chance to unlock it with Chevron till 7008, then they need to find the way to keep the unlock.
And yes, 7004 wasn't locked version. Give it a try agian.
And a new Zune Cilent is also a problem i think, because there are a lot of people can't use Chevron Unlock because they have the latest version of Zune Software.
Well, i think it is about time to have a real WP7 Phone man, Samsung FOCUS is not a bad choice.
Strike_Eagle said:
Well, i think it is about time to have a real WP7 Phone man, Samsung FOCUS is not a bad choice.
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You are inattentive reader, I already have a Focus (of course interop-unlocked, probably will update to Freedom ROM) Leme say, it's time for new, 2-nd gen phones (with ffcam etc.) but my contract will expire next May so I should wait (never paid even penny for handset). BTW, as for Taylor: some people has family members, for example ; also some people feel sorry for trashing working sophisticated electronic devices just because they one year old and 1-st gen
sensboston said:
You are inattentive reader, I already have a Focus (of course interop-unlocked, probably will update to Freedom ROM) Leme say, it's time for new, 2-nd gen phones (with ffcam etc.) but my contract will expire next May so I should wait (never paid even penny for handset). BTW, as for Taylor: some people has family members, for example ; also some people feel sorry for trashing working sophisticated electronic devices just because they one year old and 1-st gen
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LOL, i just read it and type the reply because i think you are just talking about the samsung taylor , lol.

When will we get our first ICS based ROM

I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
Wow. Just search through all the topics in the skyrocket forum and you'll find your answer
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This is like some kind of Platonic Ideal of a post here.
But, I'm pretty sure they're going to release ICS at the big Samsung/AT&T/Google event tomorrow.
Savitt said:
I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
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Before you ask a question, please search the forum first, therefore other members will not give you harsh answers.
If you are looking for answers to rooting your device, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
If you are searching for rom developments, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383
If you are searching for information on Ice Cream Sandwich, best luck is to search google or in the general section. There is NO certain release date of when ICS will be available, but there are rumors and some information that states it will be in Q1 of 2012.
Good luck to you.
Please press "Thanks" if I have helped you in anyway.
What event? Do you have a link. ?
I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
Phoneguy589 said:
I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
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Indeed. That is the only upcoming event that I am aware of.
I wasn't...LOL. I can't afford to buy another phone. I just pre-ordered the Transformer Prime so I'm out of money...so my wife says.
silver03wrx said:
Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
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Haha me too my friend l lol the hope jumped up through my body!
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No, I was being mean. There's not event tomorrow and ICS is but a distant dream. Enjoy your device now and don't sweat the OS version number. ICS is not going to give much more over what you have now.
I'm sort of with the OP in wanting to know about any rom based on ICS. I've searched the forums and google to no avail. I'm seeing other devices getting a version of CM9, but nothing for the Skyrocket yet.
So, my question is this: Is anyone working on an ICS rom for the Skyrocket such as CM9? If I had the know-how I'd be all over that since we have such a great and powerful phone. I know AT&T and Samsung will eventually release ICS, but it'll never compare to the likes of CyanogenMod.
No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
silver03wrx said:
No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
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Thanks. Like some others I'm an impatient type...especially after using ICS on my HTC Incredible. Can hardly wait to have it on my Skyrocket, but will sit quietly (maybe) and wait.
Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
Turbojugend said:
Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
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so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
Pirateghost said:
so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
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Exactly its not as simple as ics source code being out, you also need proper drivers for the hardware
Pirateghost said:
so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
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That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
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....you also need proper drivers for the hardware
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Is it harder for phone hardware? Seems to be a lot of open source, or scene made drivers for, say video cards.
Turbojugend said:
That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
So what exactly is open about Android then? If you are at the mercy of the manufacture's to release the kernel, how is that open?
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Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
Hey Pirateghost Really great in-depth info with your permission I would like to add this info for noobs here.
Pirateghost said:
Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
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[Q] Help regarding my first windows phone

I have been a symbian fanboy and I found windows phone very interesting.
I decided to buy a windowsphone.
What I found after following windowsphone for sometime is that this os has some restrictions.
some of those restrictions like bt file sharing,usb mass storage mode etc can be lifted if you can unlock your phone completely.
I decided to buy 2nd gen phones like lumia 800 so that I can unlock them using chevron labs.but there seems to be no more new tokens.
but as of now there is no way to jailbreak 2nd gen phones.
So I decided to go for samsung focus.
what I fear now is will it be upgraded to windowsphone 8 or not?
will there be any method coming in the future to unlock 2nd gen phones?
I like to mod and install unsigned apps .
please suggest me friends what to do?
Well, there are no promises in hacking. It seems you have done your research so you kinda answered your own questions as much as anyone else could. Nobody knows what devices will get WP8 since MS hasnt stated anything one way or the other offcially. Basically if you want to mod to the fullest extent you need a first gen htc or samsung, to a lesser extent a second gen samsung should do fine. If you want to be sure to get WP8 wait untill MS says what will and what won't get it.
So far, all Windows phones have gotten all of the signifficant updates. We'll see how long this holds true, but the (admittedly short) history of the OS says that even though some devices may be a bit later than others, everybody gets the major updates. Microsoft seems to have committed to this pretty strongly. My guess is that they'll ship updates for all phones sold within a two-year period of the update coming out, since that's where people will be in contracts (I know some places do three-year contracts, but at the rate tech advances, three years is a long time).
The Focus was still on sale just a few months ago. I fully expect it to get updates through at least Windows Phone 8.5 (late 2013, by the current twice-annual-significant-update schedule). No guarantees, of course, but that's my guess.
Additionally, you should be able to send updates via CAB files even if the phone falls out of official support. The firmware will get out of date, which might make some features of the new OSes less valuable (for example, Mango added the managed Compass API, but a firmware update was needed to make it usable). Bugfixes and major features will probably keep on coming, though. If nothing else, the Samsung gen1 phones have unlockable bootloaders, so you can install custom ROMs. The fact that you can run WP7 build 8107 on the HD2 - a phone that wasn't supposed to run WP7 at all - suggests that the Focus will probably be viable for quite some time.
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
GoodDayToDie said:
It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
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thanks mate you have been so helpful to me.
btw how to stop updation process just after mango so that kk2 fw wont be installed on my phone?
will kk2 be shown as separate update or does it come with mango?
I think most the chefs turn the auto update off. I could be wrong, but my phone has not auto updated. I am using Nextgen ROM.
Updates are installed in order. After each one, the Zune software will check for more updates. You can cancel the update process at any time except when the phone is actually being flashed. There's a cancel button on the Zune software, or you can even just pull the USB cable. Since the updating process involve multiple reboots of the phone, and each one takes some time, it should be pretty easy to catch if you're paying attention.
KK2 is usually, though not always, pushed with 8107. It should not be pushed with 7720, which came out many months before KK2. 7720 is the first release Mango build. I recommend stopping after 7720, though 7740 may also be OK.
subraj said:
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
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Currently both Rogers and ATT have not pushed the KK2 firmware to the Focus, only the Omnia 7 has had the newest firmware pushed to it so you should be fine. If you plan on installing a custom ROM I DO suggest fully updating to 8107 via Zune to get the most upto date radio and then flashing the custom ROM to get the best battery/signal ect. (I suggest starting with the Rogers 7004 firmware since it updates all the way to 8107 via Zune where as the ATT one does not, as long as you have a v1.3 Focus it will flash fine on an ATT phone)
EDIT: also if you want a nice clean starting point to start you modding on your focus perhaps you might want to try my ROM posted in my sig below --v
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hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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I don't think that Nokia is getting exclusive features from microsoft. And there might be ways to port the nokia software but you never know. So if you're using your phone for navigation I would suggest you buying the nokia as this would give you a legal and good offline navi. Otherwise I'd go for the samsung for freedom reasons.

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