it's been bothering me for a while now, whenever i get into a lowlight condition, the camera fps would occasionally drop and making it lag. and the interface also has terrible lag..
as you can see from this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0UWTDMBsA4
while mine :
http://youtu.be/GKgWtWJ4rj4
the camera ui is buttery smooth. my camera smoothness at 0.4x speed of that in the video.
note the difference in scrolling smoothness
any idea?
shiningarmor said:
it's been bothering me for a while now, whenever i get into a lowlight condition, the camera fps would occasionally drop and making it lag. and the interface also has terrible lag..
as you can see from this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0UWTDMBsA4
while mine :
http://youtu.be/GKgWtWJ4rj4
the camera ui is buttery smooth. my camera smoothness at 0.4x speed of that in the video.
note the difference in scrolling smoothness
any idea?
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Between those videos, I think the other one is using sense 3.0? Definitely an older version and I would think the quality isn't as good. Especially for sound recording. It makes nasty clipping noises. I don't really have this problem... or perhaps I just don't notice it. Mine is pretty much as fast as yours goes. I think that's just a bit of too much of a need for perfection The lag is hardly even noticeable! Of course this is for the interface. Recording isn't that bad. I think it could possibly be because of the refocusing, or w/e. I can't give you the right answer. I just know that between that video and yours, the software is different!
You're using Sense 3.5 or 3.6
The video you linked to is using Sense 3.0
There are most steps to change to the front facing camera or to video mode in sense 3.5/3.6
the low bitrate and fps really annoying.
HTC doesn't optimize it just like samsung.
The camera only record up to 20fps in low light situation and the noise(green dots) keep poping out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15K6jfJhZaQ
I dunno but this video looks fine to me
sromer said:
You're using Sense 3.5 or 3.6
The video you linked to is using Sense 3.0
There are most steps to change to the front facing camera or to video mode in sense 3.5/3.6
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im using sense 3.6 but senseless, get it? lol
and yeah, when i bought my sensation, the camera ui is even worst than my current one. it's lagging like crazy
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Has anyone noticed that camcorder on Desire S records videos at only ~22 FPS? No matter how good light conditions are and regardless of recording resolution/bitrate - video always comes out at ~22 FPS (or less in low light conditions).
This is not because of hardware limitations, but because of camera module itself. It has noticable lag when looking through viewfinder and, of course, camera can not record what the camera can not see (more frames per sec).
On the other hand, front camera can record video at ~29 FPS VGA! Bad quality, but yeah, more FPS.
Why, in Gods name, would HTC put such bad camera module on back and (in terms of video recording fps) and better camera on front?
What method are you using to determine the FPS?
If it is just a software issue than a custom ROM should resolve it.
I have used "GSpot" app, and I don't believe this is a software issue, as I'm on my 5th custom rom.
Also, I don't think that my unit is faulty or something, all desire s cameras are like this (compared). Its a shame, because video quality is quite nice, but fps...
http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm
yeah i noticed that the other day i thought it was because i had an 8gb class 2 mem car but i recently got a 16gb class 6 and it still looks choppy and if as u say its and hard wear defect or they did it on purpose then their is no easy fix
this sucks. it kindof defeats the point of having 720p when the fps is less than 30...
Yh this is the one thing which is annoying but not a major disadvantage. Hope there is some software which can rectify this.
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Can anyone please explain the choppiness effect we have on the Sensation cameras (stock and modded)?
While recording the video it's not fluid at all, but the recorded material seems allright.
Just start up camera app on a Sensation vs Galaxy S2 (or even S1, LG Optimus, etc.) and pan around without recording...you'll see what i mean.
You don't have to be in video shooting mode, photo mode has the same behavior.
Once the issue is pinned down, any chance to get it fixed?
Thanks!
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I don't have this issue. I used to, and then when I changed roms (played around testing other roms like InsertCoin/Bulletproof) the camera worked GREAT recording 1080p. I used to have that really bad choppiness effect.. couldn't even record in 1080p. Try a 3.5 rom, the camera is 100x better in sense 3.5 and EVEN better with amaze camera
KAwAtA said:
I don't have this issue. I used to, and then when I changed roms (played around testing other roms like InsertCoin/Bulletproof) the camera worked GREAT recording 1080p. I used to have that really bad choppiness effect.. couldn't even record in 1080p. Try a 3.5 rom, the camera is 100x better in sense 3.5 and EVEN better with amaze camera
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i am running a custom rom based on Sense 3.5 leaked....in fact Insertcoin 3.3.2 with Amaze camera....
but that's not the issue...it is why the recorded video plays back perfectly smooth, but when recording it it looks choppy?!
zerozoneice said:
i am running a custom rom based on Sense 3.5 leaked....in fact Insertcoin 3.3.2 with Amaze camera....
but that's not the issue...it is why the recorded video plays back perfectly smooth, but when recording it it looks choppy?!
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That makes sense, though. When you are recording a video you are actually saving the information to the SDcard then immediately playing it back as well. Lots of processing power and lots of disk i/o at once.
It isn't quite as much when it is just playing 1080p video.
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Here is my sample .. I experience the Same Choppiness especially when you are moving the camera .. its not much when the camera is still...
My ROM is Stock Sense 3.5 by Eddy
720p:
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http://youtu.be/BU25BxI2I4E
1080p:
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http://youtu.be/4etyIYumhaU
Can anyone please explain why the Sensation has a lower framerate when in camera mode (not shooting, just panning around) than say a Galaxy S2?
I had a GS2 for testing a few days and it's amazing how it maintains high FPS (perfect fluid panning motion) even in low light conditions. The Sensation can't do that, it turns almost into a slideshow...
I noticed the CM7 AOSP camera does a better job than stock/amaze mod, but it's still not 100% fluid.
I'm not expecting RED quality when shooting video, but the differences are quite visible between phones nowadays.
Thanks!
I would say that it the app. Because I bought anther camera app, and the FPS is much better. It still lags a bit, but not as much as the stock one.
So i was wondering if someone can tell me how much is the picture quality difference between cm9 camera and the stock sense 4 camera. Can you improve cm9 camera further somehow?
Only thing stopping me to use cm9/aokp/paranoid is camera. Would like your review.
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jags_the1 said:
So i was wondering if someone can tell me how much is the picture quality difference between cm9 camera and the stock sense 4 camera. Can you improve cm9 camera further somehow?
Only thing stopping me to use cm9/aokp/paranoid is camera. Would like your review.
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It's really all preference, I mean yes sense camera is better, but your best bet wod be to backup current rom and give one a try to see for yourself.
We could give you opinions all day, but until you try it for yourself you will never truly know.
Plus the benefits of aosp roms outweigh the camera for most.
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Camera is a pretty big deal for me. Of the AOSP based ROMs, I only tried AOKP, and only for a short time. But from my experience, the picture quality itself is actually not that different, if at all. For picture quality, the software doesn't make as much difference as the sensor and the optics, which of course is all there in CM9 as well as Sense.
What is different/lacking, is that the autofocus takes longer on AOSP (and the near zero "shutter lag" on this phone is to me one of the best features). Plus, the interface on the Sense camera is far superior IMO (more functional layout). Also, I believe AOSP does not have a widescreen mode that takes a picture that fills the whole screen (at full resolution). One of the modes has an aspect ratio that fills the screen, but I think at a lower resolution.
Also, related to camera, the camcorder is still pretty much busted (gives garbled output almost half the time). If you use the camcorder and significant amount, this is pretty much a deal breaker. But hopefully that will get sorted out soon, now that kernel source is released.
redpoint73 said:
Camera is a pretty big deal for me. Of the AOSP based ROMs, I only tried AOKP, and only for a short time. But from my experience, the picture quality itself is actually not that different, if at all. For picture quality, the software doesn't make as much difference as the sensor and the optics, which of course is all there in CM9 as well as Sense.
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This is incorrect. The sensor and optics only record light intensity. How that gets converted into color is a combination of hardware encoded algorithms and software code. This is one of the reasons Nikon cameras running on Sony sensors practically always produce truer colors and lower noise signals that Sony cameras using the very same sensor. There are numerous examples of this, but Google ot
GroovyGeek said:
This is incorrect. The sensor and optics only record light intensity. How that gets converted into color is a combination of hardware encoded algorithms and software code. This is one of the reasons Nikon cameras running on Sony sensors practically always produce truer colors and lower noise signals that Sony cameras using the very same sensor. There are numerous examples of this, but Google ot
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Thanks for the more technical point of view. At least as far as CM/AOSP based ROMs versus Sense, or versus 3rd party photo apps (which people often claim as "better" pic quality), I've never seen much of a difference in resulting picture quality for the 2 Android phones I've owned. Possibly the hardware coded algorithms you mention play a big role regardless of what is on the software side? Also, while I can believe that software plays some role, I still don't believe that optics are not also important. The quality of the optics (lens) obviously plays a big role on any camera. Given, the lens is tiny on a camera phone, but it still must play a major role.
Related to the quality difference between the two cameras: the main thing I noticed that bugs me the most is that the Sense camera uses the full screen for the photo aspect ratio while the AOSP camera cuts off about 1/4 of the frame with it's giant gray button area.
The full screen camera just felt really good, and then looking though the photos I took they would all perfectly fit the screen.
I can't say I really understand this choice by Google. Does anyone know of a way to force a different aspect ratio? Or perhaps recommend a camera app that will fill the screen?
Does anyone else feel this way or have an argument in favor of the AOSP camera?
Okay I had to go though this for an event and wanted the best picture quality I had to flash 4.5clean +HQ mod. vs cm9 with the best setting and ICS+ below is the comparison.
CM9 1st then 4.5 CleanROm
How ever I use cm9 as my DD and cleanrom if I need o use the Cam
The sensor for the camera in the HoX has. 4:3 aspect ratio. So the pictures that cm9 takes actually use the whole sensor. The sense rooms actually take the 4:3 aspect and cut off the top and bottom to make it 16:9 and then it appears full screen. Cm9 actually gives you a picture with "more detail" in it.
As for the HQ mod for sense cameras, it increases your video quality but decreases still cam, so if you want the best sense cam, don't use HQ.
As for straight quality, they are basically the same. HTC just applies a couple more adjustments to the pic than cm9, but I would rather have the original pic and edit it myself cause I can do better than what HTC auto adjusts
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The sensor for the camera in the HoX has. 4:3 aspect ratio. So the pictures that cm9 takes actually use the whole sensor. The sense rooms actually take the 4:3 aspect and cut off the top and bottom to make it 16:9 and then it appears full screen. Cm9 actually gives you a picture with "more detail" in it.
As for the HQ mod for sense cameras, it increases your video quality but decreases still cam, so if you want the best sense cam, don't use HQ.
As for straight quality, they are basically the same. HTC just applies a couple more adjustments to the pic than cm9, but I would rather have the original pic and edit it myself cause I can do better than what HTC auto adjusts
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The 4.5 cam is posted in the apps forum. Significant improvement over both 4.0 stock and HQ
I would like to know why does the Sense based camera do such a much better work whe it comes to focusing, or actually the whole quality of the image. Why? I get so much more detail and a better focus on the sense camera. That's the only reason at all I stay with sense roms, because of the camera. It also has better stock effects, while the AOSP camera comes with some ugly ones like sepia aqua like yeah there are some cool ones depending on which type of photo you're trying to take but the sense camera comes with the country effect which just takes amazing quality photos on the effect.
Jimmyriel said:
I would like to know why does the Sense based camera do such a much better work whe it comes to focusing, or actually the whole quality of the image. Why? I get so much more detail and a better focus on the sense camera. That's the only reason at all I stay with sense roms, because of the camera. It also has better stock effects, while the AOSP camera comes with some ugly ones like sepia aqua like yeah there are some cool ones depending on which type of photo you're trying to take but the sense camera comes with the country effect which just takes amazing quality photos on the effect.
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Sense includes software tweaks? I don't notice very much of a difference myself *shrug*
exad said:
Sense includes software tweaks? I don't notice very much of a difference myself *shrug*
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Yeah, the only real difference I notice is slightly faster focus and (obviously) the near ZSL
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Yeah, the only real difference I notice is slightly faster focus and (obviously) the near ZSL
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Well yeah it actually is just a little difference but when it come to the country effect it's just astonishing the pics I can take with it. When I take a picture on the country effect it looks like they've been taken from a DSLR camera. Is there any way that effect can be ported to AOSP ?