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[Q] International Sensation?

So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?

U better make sure they running the same 3g bands or u stuck with edge eww

Well on the site it said its running the same but thats why i want somebody to help me with this i can still cancel my order helpp =[

anybody? can help?

if it's the EU version it'll work. it seems all the sensations have tmous's AWS bands

xSunny said:
So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.

*Omnipresent* said:
The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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It'll either say that or AWS. I think the EU boxes say AWS

Network
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
That is from Euro version specs...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

I have that phone and I'm getting at least 3g speeds. I have no idea how to check to see whether I get 4g. If anyone can guide me, I can post my results.
My speeds are not that good, but are the same as my old HTC HD2.
Its about 3Mbps/1Mbps.

4G would be either if your phone said 4G (US) or H+ (EU)

See the guy said for t-mobile its running 1700/2100 i know t-mobile uses 2100 idk if the 1900 is under edge and he just didnt list it cuz he only listed 3g/4g..

I was wondering this same exact thing! I'm also considering buying it from Amazon. I want to buy the international version instead of the Tmous version because hopefully Tmous will allow me to use my $10 web2go plan with the international sensation since my IMEI isn't tracked by Tmous. But at the same time I want to know if the international version with have the 1700/2100 Tmous 4G bands.
On the the HTC HD2, only the Tmous version had the 1700/2100 band whereas the International HD2 had 850/1900 bands. Just want to know if the Sensation is gonna be the same way.
Please update when your phone arrives.

I guess the International Version Sensation DOES HAVE the 1700(AWS)/2100 band. Here is a video of the unboxing of the international version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqA4hNe42A
Now the only question remains is if it'll be able to use the $10 web2go plan

Also check out this review, it's confirmed international version works with Tmous 4G: http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-review
"CALL QUALITY/NETWORK SPEED
We tested the HTC Sensation over T-Mobile, even though this variant of the Sensation was designed for Europe. Despite this, call quality was fantastic with no dropped calls. We also clocked some pretty healthy data speeds of, on average, 3Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. In our best test we clocked 6.1Mbps down and 1.7Mbps up."

I am using the sensation on tmobile. It only says H for data. I am not sure if the software can support changing the display. The HTC hd2 I previously used was the tmo version, but I don't think that can support 4G. Is there any barrier that one can say they're on 4G? Like of your speed is above XMbps, then you're on 4G.

I got an international one today(black box). I got worried that I wouldnt get 4g (didnt have UK or USA english only asian countries) The box says:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
So these are the correct bands for TMO 4g correct? I see I get the H icon on the signal meter but when I did a speed test I got really low scores (could have been the area I was in at the time though) The place I bought it from said I could exchange it for a TMO branded one because I called them and said I didnt think it was compatible with tmo's 4g network. But before I go and exchange it I want to make sure if it doesn or doesnt have the TMO bands

graffixnyc said:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
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Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+

xnifex said:
Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
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So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.

graffixnyc said:
So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
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The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.

raysacr said:
The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
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Tmo's "4G" network is only hspda+ at least as far as I know. I think the tmo version and the version I have just have different icons for when on the 4G network. Tmo's version says 4G and the Asian version shows the H

[Q] HTC Sensation 4G in Germany with UMTS/HSPA *solved*

Hey guys,
I currently own a HTC HD2 in the EU version, without branding.
On my recent holiday in the U.S. I've used the AT & T provider. So unfortunately I had to use only the GSM frequency band as used in the U.S. for UMTS / HSPA other frequencies. UMTS supports my phone with the 900/2100MHz frequencies.
I want to buy me now the HTC Sensation. On the german website of HTC is the following:
HSPA / WCDMA:
Europe / Asia-Pacific RegionT-Mobile U.S.: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM / GPRS / EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
As in Germany for UMTS / HSPA is the frequency band is used to 2100MHz, which therefore nothing to prevent. Furthermore, although there is "T-Mobile U.S.". Does that mean that I can use with this device in the U.S. with T-Mobile as the provider UMTS / HSPA? Finally, use the AWS frequency band, so a combination of 1700 and 2100 MHz.
That would be great if I could use it in Germany and the U.S. UMTS / HSPA.
Furthermore, there is also the HTC 4G Sensation, but apparently only from T-Mobile U.S.. The internet is not exactly find them if this would also work with UMTS / HSPA in Germany.
GSM Arena writes for the HTC Sensation following:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-3875.php
3G Network: HSDPA 900 / 2100
When HTC Sensation 4G:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php
3G Network: HSDPA 900/1700/2100
HSDPA 850/1900 - For Bell (Canada)
Here it looks as if the Sensation (without 4G) only work in Germany or the EU. The Sensation 4G whereas in Germany and the USA (with T-Mobile U.S.), because they use the 1700MHz.
In this forum someone writes from Greece, that the HTC 4G Sensation in his work with 3G (UMTS / HSPA). Greece belongs to the EU and uses the 2100MHz frequency band.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14253980&postcount=13
As you can see, it is declared not entirely clear and I would now like to cover before buying, to avoid a bad buy.
Best regards
@@RON
Sorry for may incorrect sentence constrcution. For some I used the google translator

Nobody any suggestions?

I am quite interested in this question，too~

There are some news
I asked HTC (Germany), but they could not answer directly. They let my question escalate. This means, that they want to test it. So I had to wait for some weeks ...
Some days ago, I recieved an answer
They wrote the following:
We have heard back from escalation team and was confirmed to us that all the frequencies have been given are supported by the device. So you should be fine.
This was not an complete answer, but the person with who I had written could just say this, what they tell him.
But I´m not sure, if that means, that the:
- HTC Sensation works fine with UMTS in Germany (of course) AND T-Mobile US (in USA)
or that the:
- HTC Sensation 4G works fine in Germany
Does anyone has meanwhile more information?
I examine the tech specs of the HTC Sensation XE and found out, that it does not support T-Mobile US (seen at the network section). I mean, it not written down, but it supports the "AWS" frequency band, which is support by T-Mobile US.
Its soo confusing

Didnt bother about that really, but i am using a Sensation 4G in Germany and it definately has HSPA, the website speed is very fast.
On the other hand it is a US Tmobile Sensation 4G, so i think it will use the 4G in the US as well.

Iceananas said:
Didnt bother about that really, but i am using a Sensation 4G in Germany and it definately has HSPA, the website speed is very fast.
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That sounds great !
Are you sure, that it is HSPA? there must be a "H" at the notification bar. To be sure, you can see it in:
settings -> phone info -> network
There must be shown at "mobile network type" "HS(D)PA"
Could you confirm this and which provider do you use in Germany? (and in the USA?)

Yes, i confirm its HS(D)PA, i made two screenshots for you (see attachments).
I am only using it in Germany, my provider is T-Mobile.
Originally it was a Sensation 4G which was sold in the US with a T-Mobile US SIM card.
Sorry for late reply

Hey guys,
sorry for waiting so long, but there are great news
As I found out, there are two versions of the HTC Sensation
- z710e (e for European), named "HTC Sensation"
- z710a (a for America, or Australia?), namend "HTC Sensation 4G"
The European version (z710e) uses for 3G the network frequencies 900/AWS/2100 MHz. This means, that it would work in the USA, but only on 3G with T-Mobile US. With other carriers only on Edge.
The z710a is seemingly splitted into two versions again:
- version 1: supports 3G frequencies 850/1900 MHz
- version 2: supports 3G frequencies 850/1900/2100 MHz
Maybe both versions are the same and are only mistakes by the trader.
Important:
The HTC Sensation 4G (z710a) is available with the frequencies (3G):
- 850/1900/2100 MHz (available e.g. at Bell, NextG, Telstra)
- 1700/1900/2100 MHz T-Mobile US edition (Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDDcgweV0B0 at 0:30)
Both are named Sensation 4G (model: z710a), but work on different network frequencies. All carriers Germany uses 2100 MHz for their 3G networks. So all Sensations (with no or with 4G suffix) will work in Germany, because they support 2100 MHz for 3G.
At least a summary:
- there are two versions of the HTC Sensation (z710e and z710a)
- the version z710a is called Sensation 4G (z710e without 4G suffix)
- whyever 4G, because it does not support 4G/LTE ...
- there are two versions of z710a again:
- version 1: supports 3G on 850/1900/2100 MHz (available e.g. at Bell, NextG, Telstra)
- version 2: supports 3G on 1700/1900/2100 MHz (T-Mobile US edition)
- all carriers in Germany uses 2100 MHz for their 3G networks
- so all models will work in Germany on 3G speeds
- not all models will work in USA e.g. at AT&T with 3G speeds
Finally I decided myself to buy a HTC Sensation 4G z710a and it works very fine
It´s from Bell (Canada), but it has no logo or branding. However it has a ROM with preinstalled apps from Bell and has only four system languages. So I cant choose the German language, but so I can improve my English skills
I hope, I could help you with my information
Best regards
@@RON

DESIRE HD RADIO will enable 2100 band on inspire 4g ?

Hello,
I just love inspire 4g and would like to buy one, but I live in europe.
I need 2100 band to use 3G network.
Is it possible that after flashing the Desire HD radio, inspire 4g would have 2100 band available ? I know that Desire HD has 2100 available ...
Thank you for any response,

bipbop said:
Hello,
I just love inspire 4g and would like to buy one, but I live in europe.
I need 2100 band to use 3G network.
Is it possible that after flashing the Desire HD radio, inspire 4g would have 2100 band available ? I know that Desire HD has 2100 available ...
Thank you for any response,
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Nope - the hardware radio supports 850, 900, 1800, 1900. No way to change this through software.

why wouldnt you just buy a Desire HD? they are the same phone, except the inspire says AT&T on it

homeslice976 said:
Nope - the hardware radio supports 850, 900, 1800, 1900. No way to change this through software.
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All the Desire HD models and the inspire support 850, 900, 1800, 1900 for gsm. But only the european desire HD supports 900,2100 for the higher speed data bands. The inspire and telus desire HD supports 850,1900 for its higher speed data. No software or ROM can change this.

Agoattamer said:
All the Desire HD models and the inspire support 850, 900, 1800, 1900 for gsm. But only the european desire HD supports 900,2100 for the higher speed data bands. The inspire and telus desire HD supports 850,1900 for its higher speed data. No software or ROM can change this.
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What he^ said. Please search before opening a new thread as this has been covered Thousands of times over the years. If the phone is not set to handle a certain data band, nothing you can do short of swapping out the antenna will change it.
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[Q] Flash Radio to Sensation 4G for HSPA 850??

Is it possible to flash a radio that supports HSPA 850 band for the Sensation 4G? I haven't gotten the phone as yet but it has already been shipped, and I noticed it supports 900/1700/2100 HSPA but not 850 band.

Pretty sure that's not possible, you'll need the Telsus version of the Sensation if you want 850. You intend to use it on At&t you will need a Telsus version.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

So basically this is a hardware issue, theres no way of flashing a bell or telsus radio to a t-mobile sensation to get 850 band for 3g?

zcucurullo said:
So basically this is a hardware issue, theres no way of flashing a bell or telsus radio to a t-mobile sensation to get 850 band for 3g?
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Yes it is a hardware limitation. But check your sensation data sheet if it shows 1900/850, 2100/900 MHz, then it is a world phone. It can be used.
I had similar problem with inspire 4g which has 1900/850 Mhz radio. It is incompatible for the 3g band used in India. I sold it back.

[Q] HTC One Mini 601e vs 601s?

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 601e and 601s? The web is full of conflicting info on this and I can't find an official white paper from HTC. I need to pick up the model that supports HSPA for ATT so I need both 850 and 1900mhz for 3g. Some sites say both models have this, some say only the 601S, some say neither has it.

landoftherich said:
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 601e and 601s? The web is full of conflicting info on this and I can't find an official white paper from HTC. I need to pick up the model that supports HSPA for ATT so I need both 850 and 1900mhz for 3g. Some sites say both models have this, some say only the 601S, some say neither has it.
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HTC 601s has LTE bands 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
HTC 601e has LTE bands 800 / 1800 / 2600
Neither will work on ATT as ATT operates on 700 and 1700 bands ... the ATT version of the phone has LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

I know I'm sh** outta luck when it comes to LTE, that's why I was asking about 3g/HSPA.
HTC did email me an answer though. It appears both devices give me the 3g frequencies i need. HTC's email below:
I understand this can be changing your experience with the device and I will be more than happy to help you with this matter.
HTC One Mini 601e:
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Cellular+Data-Links: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
HTC One Mini 601s:
2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G NetworkHSPA / WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G NetworkLTE 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
I look forward to providing you with any additional assistance for your HTC device if required.
Thanks for your continuous support of our products and services. Remember you can always contact me through http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8 am to 1 am ET, 7 days a week.
Thank you for being a member of our HTC community and I wish you a good day!
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here.
Sincerely,
Jennifer
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Guess I missed that you were looking for 3G ... in that case, I have the 601S, 3G works fine

I own 601n LTE model which also has slightly better cpu cores - Krait 300 instead of Krait 200 in 601e.

How do i recognize my model?

thakur90 said:
How do i recognize my model?
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One way is to check the box your phone came in, if you haven't binned it.
Sent from my HTC One mini using xda app-developers app

RuffBuster said:
One way is to check the box your phone came in, if you haven't binned it.
Sent from my HTC One mini using xda app-developers app
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The bottom line of text below the FCC logo on the back (below the grey beatsaudio logo) on mine says "601n".
Saves you wrecking the place looking for the box...