So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
U better make sure they running the same 3g bands or u stuck with edge eww
Well on the site it said its running the same but thats why i want somebody to help me with this i can still cancel my order helpp =[
anybody? can help?
if it's the EU version it'll work. it seems all the sensations have tmous's AWS bands
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So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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It'll either say that or AWS. I think the EU boxes say AWS
Network
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
That is from Euro version specs...
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I have that phone and I'm getting at least 3g speeds. I have no idea how to check to see whether I get 4g. If anyone can guide me, I can post my results.
My speeds are not that good, but are the same as my old HTC HD2.
Its about 3Mbps/1Mbps.
4G would be either if your phone said 4G (US) or H+ (EU)
See the guy said for t-mobile its running 1700/2100 i know t-mobile uses 2100 idk if the 1900 is under edge and he just didnt list it cuz he only listed 3g/4g..
I was wondering this same exact thing! I'm also considering buying it from Amazon. I want to buy the international version instead of the Tmous version because hopefully Tmous will allow me to use my $10 web2go plan with the international sensation since my IMEI isn't tracked by Tmous. But at the same time I want to know if the international version with have the 1700/2100 Tmous 4G bands.
On the the HTC HD2, only the Tmous version had the 1700/2100 band whereas the International HD2 had 850/1900 bands. Just want to know if the Sensation is gonna be the same way.
Please update when your phone arrives.
I guess the International Version Sensation DOES HAVE the 1700(AWS)/2100 band. Here is a video of the unboxing of the international version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqA4hNe42A
Now the only question remains is if it'll be able to use the $10 web2go plan
Also check out this review, it's confirmed international version works with Tmous 4G: http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-review
"CALL QUALITY/NETWORK SPEED
We tested the HTC Sensation over T-Mobile, even though this variant of the Sensation was designed for Europe. Despite this, call quality was fantastic with no dropped calls. We also clocked some pretty healthy data speeds of, on average, 3Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. In our best test we clocked 6.1Mbps down and 1.7Mbps up."
I am using the sensation on tmobile. It only says H for data. I am not sure if the software can support changing the display. The HTC hd2 I previously used was the tmo version, but I don't think that can support 4G. Is there any barrier that one can say they're on 4G? Like of your speed is above XMbps, then you're on 4G.
I got an international one today(black box). I got worried that I wouldnt get 4g (didnt have UK or USA english only asian countries) The box says:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
So these are the correct bands for TMO 4g correct? I see I get the H icon on the signal meter but when I did a speed test I got really low scores (could have been the area I was in at the time though) The place I bought it from said I could exchange it for a TMO branded one because I called them and said I didnt think it was compatible with tmo's 4g network. But before I go and exchange it I want to make sure if it doesn or doesnt have the TMO bands
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HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
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Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
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Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
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So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
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So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
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The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
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The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
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Tmo's "4G" network is only hspda+ at least as far as I know. I think the tmo version and the version I have just have different icons for when on the 4G network. Tmo's version says 4G and the Asian version shows the H
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I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&T’s 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
Hi everyone.. I'm planning to get this device and use it outside the US (mainly China and Indonesia).
Will the 3G work in those 2 countries? From the specs sheet, I understand that MT4GS support UMTS 2100. So theoretically, there should be no problem, since China and Indonesia use UMTS 2100 band, but it would be better if someone with personal experience can confirm this.
Anyone here has any experience using MT4GS outside the US?
yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
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I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
And according this site (and a couple of others):
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
It's indeed the 2100 band.
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
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Great!! one less thing to worry then so I think there isn't any limitations if this device is used outside the US, as long as the UMTS band is correct.
Thanks a lot!
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
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It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
mat_oli said:
It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
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Thanks for the info!! Now I feel more encouraged to get this device
I found this in the review section of this phone in phonearena :
Global travelers will like the handset very much since it can be used just about anywhere around the world for phone calls, but 3G and 4G data speeds can only be experience domestically through T-Mobile’s AWS band. However, you can still achieve 2G EDGE speeds with other network carriers.
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now I'm confused again
2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
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2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
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Hi Mistix.. thanks for your reply
Yes I'm aware about the AWS which uses the 1700/2100 band for their 3G and 4G, but according to phonearena, MT4GS supports the following band :
UMTS: 1700/2100, 2100
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which means besides supporting AWS (1700/2100), it also supports the "regular" 2100 UMTS band. The information could be wrong though..
but nldroid has stated that he has no problem using 3G in the Netherlands. And the last time I checked, the Netherlands still use the "regular" 2100 UMTS band (AWS is only available in the states and Canada).
Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Thanks for the pic! Looking forward to get my hand on this baby next month
I work for Tmous retail sales and we have never really been taught anything about bands. Ive been pretty curious myself since some customers come into the store with AT&t phones asking about tmo service. I have been instructed (by a fellow retail associate) to tell them that no At&t phone will ever have 3G on tmo ( I assume thats just the safe answer though).
real question!
in terms of 3G/4G (hspa+) what bands does tmous use?
same question for AT&t.
To tie that together. ex: If a phone from At&t hypothetically has capabilities to use the same bands as tmous and is unlocked, can it get 3G/4G service on tmous?
i did search around and didnt find a very clear answer so i figured i'd start a thread, im sure other noobs have the same question.
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
The T-Mobile Vibrant actually has those AT&T bands too, if you SIM unlock the Vibrant, you can get 3G on AT&T.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/22/samsung-galaxy-unlockable-tmobile-vibrant-supports-att-3g/
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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Thanks for the clarification. In hopes that im not being a further nuisance, I was wondering, what about a phone that has 1 of the matching bands?
T-Mobile USA is using the 1700/2100 Mhz bands for 3G (UMTS)
T-Mobile Germany uses 1900/2100 Mhz for 3G (UMTS)
If you couldnt tell, im considering buying an iPhone (to develop on for fun). Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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No it will not get 3G
I know this has been covered a million times but saying data will only be Edge/2g when doing this. I was looking at the GSM Unlocked Nexus and the specs are almost identical with the the one exception. Has anyone tired the MT4GS on ATT and confirmed it not working 3g+ Data??
Tech Specs For Galaxy Nexus GSM/HSPA+
NETWORK
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 21
T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1900 / 2100 / 1700
850 MHz is the missing 3G MHz, is that what ATT is using for 3G in the US because this shows using both 850 and 1900
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
Frequency Protocol Class
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
If so is there any way I can find out what my area is MHz wise.
Thanks,
Randy
I'd say no either way. I've never seen a Tmobile phone compatible with AT&T 3G bands
I read on Phandroid that the unlocked Nexus did fine on HSPA+.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
The Galaxy Nexus they sell in the play store says its compatable with att and tmo and I checked the specs and MHz wise there the same except the 850MHz. Further checking I found a freq. map and it looks like in my area of TN its 1900MHz 3g for att. It was a semi educated guess on it working. Guess either need to find a friend that uses att or get a prepaid sim for a month.
The unlocked GNex GSM phone is "Pentaband", which means it can use the HSPA+ frequencies on AT&T, T-Mobile, and nearly every other GSM provider in the world. There are only a few phones with this capability.
Well it appears Samsung and Nokia are using the Pentaband theory. That must have been why I was reading of people getting the Note working on ATT.
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Well it appears Samsung and Nokia are using the Pentaband theory. That must have been why I was reading of people getting the Note working on ATT.
Thanks
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One good development is that T-Mobile is busy refarming some of their spectrum and that is giving people moving from AT&T that previously would only get EDGE data speeds access to HSPA+ now. For instance, AT&T iPhones can now get HSPA+ high speed data on T-Mobile in Atlanta and a few other metro areas due to the refarming. T-Mobile will be doing this in most areas in the coming year as part of their spectrum moving to accommodate LTE and make their service more usable to a larger number of devices.
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One good development is that T-Mobile is busy refarming some of their spectrum and that is giving people moving from AT&T that previously would only get EDGE data speeds access to HSPA+ now. For instance, AT&T iPhones can now get HSPA+ high speed data on T-Mobile in Atlanta and a few other metro areas due to the refarming. T-Mobile will be doing this in most areas in the coming year as part of their spectrum moving to accommodate LTE and make their service more usable to a larger number of devices.
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Will T-Mobile ever get LTE? Idk
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
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Will T-Mobile ever get LTE? Idk
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
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They should be getting it in a year or two.
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You will only get edge on AT&T. Same with any T-Mobile phone.
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You will only get edge on AT&T. Same with any T-Mobile phone.
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Im getting 4g with my sgs2 from tmous
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Im getting 4g with my sgs2 from tmous
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Have you ran a speed test on it?
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
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After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
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Yeah there is. There a lot of site that sell International HTC One S. Of course, its full price.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Z520E-VILLE-COLOUR-UNLOCKED/dp/tech-data/B007H7G6IE/ref=de_a_smtd
kossel said:
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
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Where do you live?
The One S is exclusive to T-Mobile only in the USA afaik. The international variant (PJ40100) supports WCDMA at 850, 900 and 2100 MHz. T-Mobile USA variant (PJ40110) supports WCDMA at 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz but (My speculation here!) I guess if your carrier has a 1900 network they might sell the PJ40110 variant without the branding, isnt this what some canadian carriers do btw?
Some details here
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Where do you live?
The One S is exclusive to T-Mobile only in the USA afaik. The international variant (PJ40100) supports WCDMA at 850, 900 and 2100 MHz. T-Mobile USA variant (PJ40110) supports WCDMA at 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz but (My speculation here!) I guess if your carrier has a 1900 network they might sell the PJ40110 variant without the branding, isnt this what some canadian carriers do btw?
Some details here
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I live in Mexico, as far as I know 3G band here is 850mhz/1900mhz. I think it's the same with AT&T (because most at&t phones works here). I'm sure 1700/2100 won't work (because once I have droid Incredible 2, never got 3g works)
I don't like One X because it's too big. so any chance HTC One S will work here? (either T-mobile or international)
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I live in Mexico, as far as I know 3G band here is 850mhz/1900mhz. I think it's the same with AT&T (because most at&t phones works here). I'm sure 1700/2100 won't work (because once I have droid Incredible 2, never got 3g works)
I don't like One X because it's too big. so any chance HTC One S will work here? (either T-mobile or international)
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I have T-Mobile USA HTC One S with me and on the box it says that it supports 3g of 850, 2100, 1700/2100 and 1900Mhz. I just don't have AT&T sim card to test, but looking at the specs on the box it has to work at 1900Mhz.
I've read that it picks up 4G on at&t just not LTE.
T-MobileUS HTC One S running Stock Rooted 2.21.