Hey guys,
I currently own a HTC HD2 in the EU version, without branding.
On my recent holiday in the U.S. I've used the AT & T provider. So unfortunately I had to use only the GSM frequency band as used in the U.S. for UMTS / HSPA other frequencies. UMTS supports my phone with the 900/2100MHz frequencies.
I want to buy me now the HTC Sensation. On the german website of HTC is the following:
HSPA / WCDMA:
Europe / Asia-Pacific RegionT-Mobile U.S.: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM / GPRS / EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
As in Germany for UMTS / HSPA is the frequency band is used to 2100MHz, which therefore nothing to prevent. Furthermore, although there is "T-Mobile U.S.". Does that mean that I can use with this device in the U.S. with T-Mobile as the provider UMTS / HSPA? Finally, use the AWS frequency band, so a combination of 1700 and 2100 MHz.
That would be great if I could use it in Germany and the U.S. UMTS / HSPA.
Furthermore, there is also the HTC 4G Sensation, but apparently only from T-Mobile U.S.. The internet is not exactly find them if this would also work with UMTS / HSPA in Germany.
GSM Arena writes for the HTC Sensation following:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-3875.php
3G Network: HSDPA 900 / 2100
When HTC Sensation 4G:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php
3G Network: HSDPA 900/1700/2100
HSDPA 850/1900 - For Bell (Canada)
Here it looks as if the Sensation (without 4G) only work in Germany or the EU. The Sensation 4G whereas in Germany and the USA (with T-Mobile U.S.), because they use the 1700MHz.
In this forum someone writes from Greece, that the HTC 4G Sensation in his work with 3G (UMTS / HSPA). Greece belongs to the EU and uses the 2100MHz frequency band.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14253980&postcount=13
As you can see, it is declared not entirely clear and I would now like to cover before buying, to avoid a bad buy.
Best regards
@@RON
Sorry for may incorrect sentence constrcution. For some I used the google translator
Nobody any suggestions?
I am quite interested in this question，too~
There are some news
I asked HTC (Germany), but they could not answer directly. They let my question escalate. This means, that they want to test it. So I had to wait for some weeks ...
Some days ago, I recieved an answer
They wrote the following:
We have heard back from escalation team and was confirmed to us that all the frequencies have been given are supported by the device. So you should be fine.
This was not an complete answer, but the person with who I had written could just say this, what they tell him.
But I´m not sure, if that means, that the:
- HTC Sensation works fine with UMTS in Germany (of course) AND T-Mobile US (in USA)
or that the:
- HTC Sensation 4G works fine in Germany
Does anyone has meanwhile more information?
I examine the tech specs of the HTC Sensation XE and found out, that it does not support T-Mobile US (seen at the network section). I mean, it not written down, but it supports the "AWS" frequency band, which is support by T-Mobile US.
Its soo confusing
Didnt bother about that really, but i am using a Sensation 4G in Germany and it definately has HSPA, the website speed is very fast.
On the other hand it is a US Tmobile Sensation 4G, so i think it will use the 4G in the US as well.
Iceananas said:
Didnt bother about that really, but i am using a Sensation 4G in Germany and it definately has HSPA, the website speed is very fast.
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That sounds great !
Are you sure, that it is HSPA? there must be a "H" at the notification bar. To be sure, you can see it in:
settings -> phone info -> network
There must be shown at "mobile network type" "HS(D)PA"
Could you confirm this and which provider do you use in Germany? (and in the USA?)
Yes, i confirm its HS(D)PA, i made two screenshots for you (see attachments).
I am only using it in Germany, my provider is T-Mobile.
Originally it was a Sensation 4G which was sold in the US with a T-Mobile US SIM card.
Sorry for late reply
Hey guys,
sorry for waiting so long, but there are great news
As I found out, there are two versions of the HTC Sensation
- z710e (e for European), named "HTC Sensation"
- z710a (a for America, or Australia?), namend "HTC Sensation 4G"
The European version (z710e) uses for 3G the network frequencies 900/AWS/2100 MHz. This means, that it would work in the USA, but only on 3G with T-Mobile US. With other carriers only on Edge.
The z710a is seemingly splitted into two versions again:
- version 1: supports 3G frequencies 850/1900 MHz
- version 2: supports 3G frequencies 850/1900/2100 MHz
Maybe both versions are the same and are only mistakes by the trader.
Important:
The HTC Sensation 4G (z710a) is available with the frequencies (3G):
- 850/1900/2100 MHz (available e.g. at Bell, NextG, Telstra)
- 1700/1900/2100 MHz T-Mobile US edition (Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDDcgweV0B0 at 0:30)
Both are named Sensation 4G (model: z710a), but work on different network frequencies. All carriers Germany uses 2100 MHz for their 3G networks. So all Sensations (with no or with 4G suffix) will work in Germany, because they support 2100 MHz for 3G.
At least a summary:
- there are two versions of the HTC Sensation (z710e and z710a)
- the version z710a is called Sensation 4G (z710e without 4G suffix)
- whyever 4G, because it does not support 4G/LTE ...
- there are two versions of z710a again:
- version 1: supports 3G on 850/1900/2100 MHz (available e.g. at Bell, NextG, Telstra)
- version 2: supports 3G on 1700/1900/2100 MHz (T-Mobile US edition)
- all carriers in Germany uses 2100 MHz for their 3G networks
- so all models will work in Germany on 3G speeds
- not all models will work in USA e.g. at AT&T with 3G speeds
Finally I decided myself to buy a HTC Sensation 4G z710a and it works very fine
It´s from Bell (Canada), but it has no logo or branding. However it has a ROM with preinstalled apps from Bell and has only four system languages. So I cant choose the German language, but so I can improve my English skills
I hope, I could help you with my information
Best regards
@@RON
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phones that are from htc that are in europe and asia..for example, the htc hd2 and hd.. do they work with cell phone providers like at&t? here are the specs for the htc hd2:
Network -
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I highly suggest you read the specs and find out what band it supports and cross reference it with the bands they use in the US (wikipedia has the answer to that)
totally wrong place for this, but I'm not a mod so...
Any GSM phone supporting quad-band or tri-band with 850 (you need 850MHz at least, 1900 helps in some places) will work on the network. Many phones support this for gsm/EDGE. Very few phones support this with 3g.
If you want to use att 3g, look for a phone with 850/1900MHz support on "UMTS", "WCDMA", "3G", "HS(D/U/blanks)PA", etc. Basically, if it is marketed for AT&T, Rogers (in canada), or some south american providers (claro?), you'll be good.
Most phones will support 2g, though.
EDIT: As an example, based on those specs you list, the phone WILL work with EDGE, but not 3G/HSDPA.
All correct from poly_poly-man + Telstra in Australia uses the same 3G band as AT&T so there you may go shopping
I'm looking to upgrade from my HTC Fuze (AT&T) to the Desire Z, but my main question is, even though it is a quad band phone, will it be able to utilize 3G technology?
With all these changes to frequency bands and technology, I'm at the point where I am not sure what the numbers and letters mean. The specs for the A7272 say it supports GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 and HSDPA 900/2100.
other variants of the Desire Z (A7275) says, GSM: 850/900/1800/1700 and UMTS: Band IV 1700/2100
I'm confused as to whether I will be able to use the phone as a 3G phone for both the US (specifically AT&T) and Thailand.
You can get the Bell (Canada) Desire Z, that includes support for at&t 3G
Sounds interesting. My main worry is using it in Thailand as well, but since I go back to Thailand once a year, I can live with edge i guess.
I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&T’s 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
rashad1 said:
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
bdkinney said:
Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
jdaclutch said:
Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
I am travelling to Europe soon and can't really find out if the Sensation will fully work there. I am getting it SIM unlocked through TMOUS, but I am unsure about the actual bands it supports. I know it will work for standard GSM calling since where I am going 900 MHz is standard, but what about data? Will I at least be able to get 3G? Searched hi and low and couldn't find an answer to this anywhere. Thanks.
Paul
same boat
I'm in the same boat here. I leave for Ireland in the beginning of September, and hope to bring my T-Mobile Sensation (factory unlocked also). If anyone has any insight to this it would be greatly appreciated. 3G is a must now a days.
Go to gsmarena and look for the bands of the HTC Sensation and compare it with the Tmobile Sen 4g
just got back from spain/ibiza after a two week vacation:
i had a sim that ONLY did phone/sms and a friend had a sim that did data...but he kept complaining about the speed, so i'm assuming the speeds are edge-like. again, this was in ibiza and our choice of sims was limited...
HTH
gsmarena for htc sensations
that was a good idea hytl, looks like the tmobile version has two more frequencies on the HSDPA but everything else is the same. So our phones should work fine with 3G.
US Version
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 - For Bell (Canada)
European Version
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
Anyone know why the T-Mobile version doesn't pick up AT&T's 3G?(here in America) from what I've read online AT&T use's 850 and 1900, and gsmarena says it the T-Mobile Sensation can pick up those frequencies, but I dont get any 3G. actually I dont even get edge, I can just make phone calls and text, no data whats so ever on AT&T's network. dont know if i should start a new thread, but its confusing the hell out of me. Could it be a software lock? its not rooted or anything.
Hi,
I am a telstra customer from Australia. Telstra is rolling out its first handset on their new LTE network next week, the HTC Velocity (aka HTC Holiday or Vivid, i think).
The Telstra LTE network currently only runs on the 1800mhz frequency. Telstras 3G network runs on 850mhz australia wide and 2100 i think in built-up areas.
Short of ending my contract early or buying a Velocity outright (which you cant for another few months, according to telstra), I began a search for a mobile device that supports both 3G 850mhz UMTS and 4G 1800mhz LTE. This is a very hard combo to find.
Has anyone else had any luck finding a decent/flagship android phone from HTC or Samsung that supports both these frequencies? I do not care about 2G quadband compatability.
So far all I have come up with is the Samsung Galaxy S 2 LTE, but i cannot confirm this in fact has 850mhz UMTS.