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These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package...
Edit: I'm dead wrong about the iPod's batt capacity as rajendra82 has pointed out. It was 3.4 watt hour, not 3.4 amp hours. Sorry (for the record, the iPod's batt would be terribly insufficient as a modern phone batt in a smartphone)
eatkabab said:
These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package... sigh...
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh. The Samsung Captivate has a 5.55 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 1500 mAh. Since the battery capacity is directly proportional to the volume, a battery of 3000 mAh will be twice as big as our current battery. The biggest phones today (i.e., the EVO and Droid X) only ship with a 1300 mAh battery. 1500 mAH is plenty for this phone to get through the day. Battery life is typically rated at 1000 cycles, which is 3 years assuming a full day to go from 100% to 0%. You are likely to replace the phone in 3 years any way.
Our phones do have large batteries, and as long as you don't have a bad program, have the screen on super bright, or use it as a hot spot, the battery life is going to be good enough for nearly anyone.
The captivate has a HUGE percent of the volume dedicated to the battery already, without using a non standard (non rectangular prism) battery shape the phone thickness would need to greatly increase and have wasted space.
In simpler terms, when your battery is already good for the market, a thinner phone sells more than a marginal battery lfie increase.
What about weight? Does a bigger battery weigh significantly more?
I would love to have a bigger battery or one of those battery cases like my fiancee has for her iphone. I think the above comments are spot on, but i think what companies dont take into account is how much people use their phones for on a daily basis. I dont know about you, but I use my phone a hell of a lot during the day more so than what constitutes as 'just getting through the day'. If im lucky enough to make it through till the end of the day its skirting on the red. A backup battery would be awesome to have!
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh.
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Sorry, I just realized that. I must have missed the details about the ipod power.
I understand that the captivate technically has the "best" battery, but I do not agree that it will last through the day. I'm using my phone regularly to look up information, text, Gtalk, and make many calls. The phone is dead by the time I get home around 6pm (days start around 7:30am).
the iPad has a "10 hour batt life". My sister has her iPad lying around the house but she and I are much more often on our phones, so why don't our phones have a 10 hour batt life? I think its kinda difficult to use the ipad for 10 hours in a single day seeing that people usually work too. My phone is used for productive purposes usually, so it is very easy to drain it in the 4.5hrs it lasts on any day (not to mention difficult to get through an 8hr plane ride and still have juice to find your way to the hotel when you land). Last I checked, a day was at least 8 hours, not 4.5.
I also realize that they would have to ditch the rectangle/cube form factor of the batt in order to fill the space of a larger case more efficiently (something the iphone takes advantage of). I have nothing against this (or the added weight) and I don't think any other power user would care either.
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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Edit: I forgot to mention Virgin America has solved all flying problems with this nifty little thing called a power receptacle in each trio of seats.
There have been at least 10 different claims in the last 5-10 years from companys saying they've found a way to at least triple battery capacity.
so far none of them have made anything...
Have you ever seen those extended batteries that also replace the back cover? They look awful. It's great that the Captivate is so slim and light.
It's unlikely that enough people need that much power every day for manufacturers to implement a huge battery in every device.
Nevertheless, it would be great to have the option.
Third party batteries that replace the back cover haven't been designed by the manufacturer to take advantage of all the space available, they're just made afterwards for the (admittedly few) people who need to stay more than 12hrs without a power source.
If a manufacturer specifically made a phone to accomodate a larger battery, the uglyness+volume/duration ratio would be much better.
Imagine a qwerty slider with a large battery instead of the keyboard: you could live with the additional volume and you could go on for two full days without a powersource.
Personally I wouldn't ever make it without a car charger, I keep a spare battery around in case I need it and even carry a retractable microUSB as a key holder (I use my phone as a music player, the battery drains FAST).
I'm ok with that but a large capacity batt. would let me not have to care about how much juice I have left all the time, wich would be great.
eatkabab said:
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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You're not crazy. I think about the smartphone battery problem all the time. It's by far the biggest drawback of a smartphone. Even if you are using it lightly, you still have to charge every night, that is smartphone 101. And yet, if my friend iwth a little feature phone texts me all day, and I text them back all day, there phone... is fine. They can bascially run it all day for three days before needing to charge when it's new. My Captivate (or any other smartphone)... constantly having the screen on? It would be begging for battery after hours. Now of course, we have vastly better batteries than the feature phone, it's just the smartphone is doing significantly more. But still, yes, there should be a way, possibly with non-rectangular batteries, to significantly (at least double) battery life at a not massive cost to form factor and size. And yes, I'm sure there is a market here as well.
Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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Bigger battery means more weight. Some manufacturers get a little more power out of the same physical size, but if you really want to double the battery, you double the size and double the weight.
Since the phones have no extra room inside, you wind up with a bigger phone.
All manufacturers are trying to balance size, weight and power. It is no coincidence that all the smartphones have near the same size battery.
ColbyRyptos said:
This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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This post pretty much leads me to believe more is going on than you're saying. With hybrid r3 I was getting two days with heavy usage, also gps isn't functional on that rom, so claiming to use it seems to be misinformed at best
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beazie0885 said:
Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
i agree that a phone with a super battery pack would be nice. me and my friends would always talk about if we could make our own phones what we would want and i always said something that would give me nice battery life so the idea i came up with was this
by default most phones come with a 1500 mah battery
but why not add a non traditional form factor to the rest of the case adding battery to and around the phone like in the area around the camera in the front of the phone around the side of the phone kinda like some of this battery jackets we see coming out for the iphone 4
i think it would add maybe just a built more bulk to the phone i'm still using a tilt so i'm used to carryin a bulky phone
i've always been interested in seeing super cap or ultra cap tech being put into a smartphone figuring if we can't go all day with our battery at least let us be able to get a full charge with in a few minutes ya know
i see ultra and super cap tech starting to be put in remotes were you can charge it in 1 minute to 5 minutes and not have to charge it for two weeks that kinda tech in a cell would be lovely
I, for one, would give up the cool looking indent in the back of the captivate (where the metal cover is) if they would fill that space with battery. It wouldn't increase the size of the phone (much), wouldn't make it bulgy, and I could see it giving at least 50% better battery life.
Even if the phone was blobby, plenty of people are buying Droid phones, and those things are frikin' mon calamari cruisers.
alphadog00 said:
Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
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obviously they would have to make the phone a tad thicker and its already so light weight that adding double the batt weight would still keep it weighing less than an Evo
the Samsung Captivate battery is pretty beefy if you ask me, I don't know how they would fit a processor and other components in the phone if they got a bigger battery
There is a battery conditioning procedure recommended by HTC - probably would work with any battery
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
The above is a cut-and-paste from the G2x forum, which also was a cut-and-paste.
Is this for any HTC device or for Sensation or any LiION in general?
Is this only for one time or everyday?
Personally, I don't think it will work.
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one time.
it takes a while to do so do the 8 hours overnight, but it did improve my battery life a lot and same with everyone in the g2x forum who tried it. also it was said to do a factory reset before doing this procedure. with a full charge. but it was not part of the procedure that HTC made , the OP post. a factory reset is always good to do on a new phone IMHO though.
This should definitely work. Batteries develop a 'memory' and I always go through a similar process when I first get new devices. I discharge them completely. Then turn them off to charge completely and then discharge completely once more before normal use.
Battery "memory" only applies to the Nickel Cadmium days. Lithium Ion batteries do not have memory effects:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lithium-ion-battery.htm
"If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined."
that is correct. li-ion batteries do not have "the memory effect". but this does seem to help setup the battery for best performance. it's been tested and tried at the g2x forum where i came from, and this method was released from HTC. someone just pasted it over on the g2x general forums since initially the battery had some serious issues. try it and repost. whats the worst that could happen? full battery?
This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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Plus, what is HTC doing making battery recommendations for LG devices (G2x)?
i tried this, it helps. here is the original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 it was from an evo4g user
ps. i think that the phone some how is not giving the % of the battery correctly. i have notice if i charge the phone and as soon it says its charge i unplug it, the battery drains quickly. but if i let it plugged about an hour after its says that is fully charge the power consumption its really good. it last in average like 16 hours with normal use.
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This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
i think you're right bro. just read that link. seems like that appears like the original. more info there too. im gonna save that. thanks
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
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Actually you are the troll and ACTUALLY your post does say that it's recommended by HTC and actually this isn't news. It's bump charging and actually it means that you'll have to replace your battery sooner. And actually it's one thing to say that something works and one thing to say that it's a recommendation from the manufacturer of the phone.
Trollaz dey gon troll
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This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
Dolphinwigs said:
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either.
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Are you calling me a troll because I post a link about battery facts?
Hey OP, thanks for the post. It all depends on your preference anyway. Btw, do you really think we needa factory reset our device? Cos I got a lot of apps installed in my device which are not from market. Thanks in advance.
zmfl said:
This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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Very mixed bag "analysis". For so much effort he failed to answer the most basic questions.
Does bump charging the battery once provide a capacity advantage that persists? If so, how much of an advantage? Is it the 15% quoted figure? If doing it once only lasts a while then how often should it be done? And how much would that actually shorten the battery life? If the normal battery life is 1 year, and I can get 15% more capacity each day but shorten the life by 2 months I would bump charge. If it cuts the battery life in half I would still be tempted, since OEM replacement batteries aren't that expensive.
What would be useful is a graph of bump charging frequency, percent increased storage capacity, and battery life. With that information we could make rational decisions.
When we can root our phones, it's best to charge the phone on the new rom and delete batterystats.bin and let it drain to 0%
That way android knows what is 100% and what is 0% and how many volts it is.
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i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
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I think that you should edit your OP so that it does not say that bump charging is recommended by HTC, especially because it can and will lead to damaging your LI-Ion battery's overall lifespan and because it simply isn't true.
This is akin to creating a thread called "HTC phone improvement procedure" and then telling everyone that HTC recommends that they flush their phones down the toilet. Most people probably wouldn't believe you but it'd be pretty terrible if someone did simply because they believe that an experienced forum member wouldn't post mistruths that could lead to damaging their device or components of it, and claim that HTC recommends it.
Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...
No matter how big batteries are, they will ALWAYS fall short for some people. There is no way around it.
The stock batteries in most phones are good enough for average users. You're not one and that's okay - but that's why there are choices.
The SG3 stock battery lasts me the day about 6/7 times - I only feel pinched the day I have a large break and might want to watch video or play games for an extended period of time.
I had options. I could have gotten an extended battery - no swapping, just bigger phone just like you clamp to want. This is available without having to get a phone that may not have good developer support.
You deride external chargers and spares, but you need to chill and realise that different people have different needs and that's why choice is good.
I like having spares. Opening my phone up and changing takes only seconds and I can them in my pocket or bag and I can charge a battery while using a different one. I hardly ever plug the phone itself in any more.
External chargers can power multiple devices and have HUGE capacities compared to even very large extended batteries.
There are so many choices at I don't tnk this is a big/any issue. No battery will be big enough for everyone unless perhaps the technology is completely revolutionised beyond what it is capable of today.
So yeah. Battery issue is not an issue.
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Putting in larger batteries makes the phone in turn bigger and heavier.
That's why they probably limit it as people prefer thinner and lighter phones!
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I'm satisfied with the battery life of my s3. I take it for granted that i need to use a charger if i continouisly use it. I wouldn't want my device to be even bigger, left alone to weigh anymore than it does already....
Frankly, if the average (read: majority) user had such a problem with battery life more companies would invest a lot more on battery research.
I could've used a more battery friendly ROM on my phone and have it last days on my 1700mAh battery, but I don't bother because at the end of most days I'm left with something above 20%.
I have three spares I never use plus the three year old stock battery, and I've not really ever needed them.
I'm also not really a big fan of "perfection", which for example is why I'm not an iOS user.
Perfection is synonymous with boring in the tech world, and battery constraints actually demands something from the phone designers.
That demand holds more value than most can imagine.
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I carry no bag
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mostly phones are quite light and 10-20g extra wouldn't be a noticeable difference. not importantly noticeable.
the only mobile phone I had in my life with no battery disappointments was nokia 15 years ago. all phones since they support 3g, failed me.
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New technology has higher power requirements. It's not fair to compare phones today to one's from 15 years ago - I mean, dude, back then it's not like you were doing anything other than calls on that thing - certainly no streaming or anything.
I only have a bag on school days - but I have pockets. And really, it's not about either of us - it's about choices and everyone else. Plenty of people Do have bags or briefcases or something every day. You can't just think of your own habits.
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My phone has 1.5W (pick) consumption with 3" screen
I just bought a 58WH portable power http://www.mrbattery.com.tw/product_detail.php?pid=MBP0001023
It's able to let my brightness100% and CPU stick on 1.6GHz for 3 days and nights!
I own a HTC Desire hd previously. That phone battery life was totally horrible. I had to carry a portable charger everywhere. In comparison, s3's battery life is beyond excellent. (Note: I disabled most of the power drawing apps/functions.)
With that being said, having a large capacity battery is one of the main thing I look out for when buying a phone.
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We're kind of at the end of the rope concerning battery capacity. There are just no easy ways to store a lot of energy in a small place. If we were able to build batteries with higher capacities in reasonable formats, we would already have them. Every new advance in battery technology only adds a small percentage of capacity or lengthens its usable service life somewhat.
But I do agree that the phones are now at a comfortable size, battery life should not be sacrificed for thinner phones. I bought the extended battery for my S II, it only makes the phone a 3 mm thicker, but that does add 20% of battery life. IMO they should have released the phone like that, but then they would have not been able to market it as the thinnest phone.
Hey people,
I have a quick question that google coudln't solve.
1. what does the information inside the battery compartment mean? (Wattage, rating, etc.)
2. If 2 phones have the same rating and use the same charger, why does one charge significantly faster than the other?
3. |EXTRA CREDIT| Is there anyway to hack a phone/battery to stay powered on beyond the default voltage?
Thanks in advance!!
Bump!! I googled and could not find any information.
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Hey people,
I have a quick question that google coudln't solve.
1. what does the information inside the battery compartment mean? (Wattage, rating, etc.)
2. If 2 phones have the same rating and use the same charger, why does one charge significantly faster than the other?
3. |EXTRA CREDIT| Is there anyway to hack a phone/battery to stay powered on beyond the default voltage?
Thanks in advance!!
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1. They're the ratings of the power supply (battery) the phone needs to operate. It needs that voltage to operate and the phone will draw that amount of current.
2. It could be anything from different battery capacities (if you're talking two different phone models, look for mAh on the batteries) to one phone doing more in the background than the other to minor manufacturing variations.
3. I don't understand what you mean by this question. I guess you're talking about how to get more battery life out of the phone? Google should help with that, you're probably just not wording the question properly.
Hope this helps.
drago10029 said:
Hey people,
I have a quick question that google coudln't solve.
1. what does the information inside the battery compartment mean? (Wattage, rating, etc.)
2. If 2 phones have the same rating and use the same charger, why does one charge significantly faster than the other?
3. |EXTRA CREDIT| Is there anyway to hack a phone/battery to stay powered on beyond the default voltage?
Thanks in advance!!
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1. exactly what it means, wattage, etc
2. charger usb end could be wired differently, not all are wired the same even though they look the same
3. no .... i want the credit
@vincom @member thanks for the responses. and the 3rd was about the modding a phone/battery/kernel to utilize virtually the whole battery instead of shutting off at the usual voltage rating for the phone model.
drago10029 said:
@vincom @member thanks for the responses. and the 3rd was about the modding a phone/battery/kernel to utilize virtually the whole battery instead of shutting off at the usual voltage rating for the phone model.
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Volt and mAh. You're probably talking about mAh.
I can't say I know, but, I think that roms such as CM will usually eat up all of the battery if you let it.
Also it's bad for these kind of batteries to be fully emptied. It decreases their volume so that every time you fully empty this battery it will charge a little bit less energy when recharged. It's better to leave a little bit of energy (like 5%). :good:
lingowistico said:
Volt and mAh. You're probably talking about mAh.
I can't say I know, but, I think that roms such as CM will usually eat up all of the battery if you let it.
Also it's bad for these kind of batteries to be fully emptied. It decreases their volume so that every time you fully empty this battery it will charge a little bit less energy when recharged. It's better to leave a little bit of energy (like 5%). :good:
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Honestly at the rate most people switch phones and being the owner of a phone with a removable battery, As long as I'm getting the longest battery life that all that matter's thanks to companies like anker. also I understand your point though.
drago10029 said:
Honestly at the rate most people switch phones and being the owner of a phone with a removable battery, As long as I'm getting the longest battery life that all that matter's thanks to companies like anker. also I understand your point though.
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I don't get your point.
Do you mean that these phones are just throwaway devices like those red plastic liquor cups so you might as well squeeze all the juice out of it whil you're at it?
I've had my Skyrocket for a year now and I bought it used too. I'm going to keep it until it f**king dies from natural causes.
Not because I have to, but because I realized that I don't need a phone with an ultra HD display, an octa-core CPU and 8 gigs of ram.
It's past ridiculous now, now it's just redundant. The peak of the smartphone as we know it has come an end, see how the difference between the S3 and the S4 is not as big as it was between the S2 and the S3? Same thing with Iphone5 and 5S.
It's because there's no point. We don't need that much power in our phones. We don't even notice the difference in performance.
They have to come up with totally new stuff for the hype to rise again. They're going to drag it out though. Because you know, money.
There are some interesting ideas that are being held back on purpose, like the smartphone-dock that turns it into a PC. Do you see Apple / Samsung selling these docks? Of cource not. Because without it they can sell the same thing twice: as two separate devices.
Or how the software is made in a specifc manner that it makes your phone seem slow.. and it makes you want to buy an new and "better" phone. Really, software nowadays is like there's no such thing as optimization.
Haha pouring my soul out here lolz, cheerio mate
Meanwhile, here's Nokia's Morph concept:
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I don't get your point.
Do you mean that these phones are just throwaway devices like those red plastic liquor cups so you might as well squeeze all the juice out of it whil you're at it?
I've had my Skyrocket for a year now and I bought used too. I'm going to keep it until it f**king dies from natural causes.
Not because I have to, but because I realized that I don't need a phone with an ultra HD display, an octa-core CPU and 8 gigs of ram.
It's past ridiculous now, now it's just redundant. The peak of smartphone as we know has come and went, see how the difference between the S3 and the S4 is not as big as it was between the S2 and the S3? Same thing with Iphone5 and 5S.
It's because there's no point. We don't need that much power in our phones. We don't even notice the difference in performance, unless they bug up the update for the older device so as to demonstrate how much "better" the new one is.
They have to come up with totally new stuff for the hype to rise again. They're going to drag it out though. Because you know, money.
There are some interesting ideas that are being held back on purpose, like the smartphone-dock that turns it into a PC. If you can sell both a PC and a smartphone, then why not?
Or how the software is made in a specifc manner that it makes your phone seem slow.. so as to make you buy a new and "faster" phone.
Haha pouring my soul out here lolz, cheerio mate
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I feel you sentiment friend.
I agree hence why I got a GS2 skyrocket. I agree as well the majority of innovation happening in phones is the wrong innovation!
Battery life can get better but it a lot more expensive for the consumer if it doesn't. and YOU'RE RIGHT companies are dragging things out but it's honestly because people are mindlessly buying into the galaxy and apple brand. It's sad for us tech dreamers and for true techies.
with that said I do believe I wanna just squeeze the maximum out of my device, within reason though. I believe the battery is within reason since if a batter ygoes beyong it's voltage it's longevity will be shorter but it's only 10$ for a replacement and that's super cheap IMO.
p.s. the nano technology would be awesome! CES has been a bust a lot of years so far because the big companies aren't really trying like you said anymore :/
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I feel you sentiment friend.
I agree hence why I got a GS2 skyrocket. I agree as well the majority of innovation happening in phones is the wrong innovation!
Battery life can get better but it a lot more expensive for the consumer if it doesn't. and YOU'RE RIGHT companies are dragging things out but it's honestly because people are mindlessly buying into the galaxy and apple brand. It's sad for us tech dreamers and for true techies.
with that said I do believe I wanna just squeeze the maximum out of my device, within reason though. I believe the battery is within reason since if a batter ygoes beyong it's voltage it's longevity will be shorter but it's only 10$ for a replacement and that's super cheap IMO.
p.s. the nano technology would be awesome! CES has been a bust a lot of years so far because the big companies aren't really trying like you said anymore :/
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It's not that it's sad. It doesn't matter what brand it is, when your goal is to make as much money as possible then that's what you're going to do.
Yeah I know they're really cheap (at least the knockoffs) I even got two spare ones myself.
Actually, I usually use the battery until the phone dies off. I told you that just in case.
Also a battery's capacity is usually measured in milliampere-hour or mAh. Not voltage.
About CES, the big companies are trying very hard indeed, I'm sure thir R&D's are working their butts off. Behind closed doors.
So they can milk this cow for as long as possible.
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It's not that it's sad. It doesn't matter what brand it is, when your goal is to make as much money as possible then that's what you're going to do.
Yeah I know they're really cheap (at least the knockoffs) I even got two spare ones myself.
Actually, I usually use the battery until the phone dies off. I told you that just in case.
Also a battery's capacity is usually measured in milliampere-hour or mAh. Not voltage.
About CES, the big companies are trying very hard indeed, I'm sure thir R&D's are working their butts off. Behind closed doors.
So they can milk this cow for as long as possible.
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yeah i know about the mAh but voltage determines the cut off when the shut down happens.
also @vincom @lingowistico last thing lol i think....... I had a nother motive for getting this info, will this charger make my skyrocket charge faster?
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-2-4-...ndroid/dp/B0073FE1F0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I didn't know that about voltage. You learn something all the time, huh? :good:
I have no idea about that charger, I barely passed the electronics class.
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I didn't know that about voltage. You learn something all the time, huh? :good:
I have no idea about that charger, I barely passed the electronics class.
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what about any charger? I want one that is gonna fill my battery as fast as possible! Can't be waitin' 3+ hours to charge my phone. My current charger is rated at 5 volts .7 mAh. I NEED a faster charger in my life.
this question is for anyone not just you lol
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what about any charger? I want one that is gonna fill my battery as fast as possible! Can't be waitin' 3+ hours to charge my phone. My current charger is rated at 5 volts .7 mAh. I NEED a faster charger in my life.
this question is for anyone not just you lol
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Don't know, I know that it charges faster when turned off.
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yeah i know about the mAh but voltage determines the cut off when the shut down happens.
also @vincom @lingowistico last thing lol i think....... I had a nother motive for getting this info, will this charger make my skyrocket charge faster?
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-2-4-...ndroid/dp/B0073FE1F0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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That charger most likely will cause a wakelock. I've had similiar charges and they all caused wakelocks. Best bet....use the original charger the phone came with.
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That charger most likely will cause a wakelock. I've had similiar charges and they all caused wakelocks. Best bet....use the original charger the phone came with.
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Wakelock? Why is that?
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Wakelock? Why is that?
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Just speaking from expierience. I've had alot of similiar chargers..just all of them did cause wakelocks. I can't say this one will for sure...but i'd rather test a proven product than flip a coin. The original charger the Skyrocket comes with works good. A duel usb At&t branded also works good for me.
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Just speaking from expierience. I've had alot of similiar chargers..just all of them did cause wakelocks. I can't say this one will for sure...but i'd rather test a proven product than flip a coin. The original charger the Skyrocket comes with works good. A duel usb At&t branded also works good for me.
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thanks but the original charger charges super slow! if you read above it takes a really long time for me. also wakelock would be worth faster charging. plus I can remove those easy
Hello there, I see that there are multiple replacement battery offerings on Amazon, and I was curious if anyone had any experience with them.
I was looking at: https://www.amazon.com/2300mAh-Repl...sr=8-1-spons&keywords=htc+one+s+battery&psc=1
Which is a non-OEM battery
And I was also looking at: https://www.amazon.com/HTC-35H00185...=1513958021&sr=8-3&keywords=htc+one+s+battery
Which is an OEM battery.
However, the reviews of the battery provided by HTC would lead me to believe that perhaps HTC is reselling old/used batteries from devices that may have come in for repairs. I was hoping someone could shed some light on it.
I have experience of using 3rd party batteries in other phones, namely a BlackBerry Z10, and I haven't had any issues in the past. I was just looking for some recommendations from the community. Thanks
I've been browsing old posts on here looking for solutions to this same problem (finding suitable battery replacements or even upgrades for this device).
So far the verdict is still out whether upgrading to a bigger battery will actually yield better results. Some say bigger batteries do provide better battery life, others say it's no different from the stock unit (purportedly since the phone can't utilize any more than the stock 1650mAh), and some say it's much worse (may be due to faulty/rubbish packs).
Most people say that One X and even One X+ batteries fit in the HTC One S, though some have encountered various, minor problems in doing so. 3rd-party batteries seem to be a mixed bag as well.
Curiously, One X and One X+ batteries are actually slightly cheaper than One S batteries, haven't got a clue as to why.
Most of the posts discussing this topic is from 2013/2014, so there's not a lot of data from newer builds of Android (with Project Volta) in conjunction with fresh battery packs.
I hope others can chime in on the matter as well, would very much like some suggestions as to what would be the best course of action.
Okay, just installed a new 1800mAh battery (One X (BJ83100) OEM battery on discount). I'll let you know how it fares in the near future after having done a few full cycles on it. It proved to be quite a challenge to get it installed, but hey, everything seems to be working fine, for now at least.
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Okay, just installed a new 1800mAh battery (One X (BJ83100) OEM battery on discount). I'll let you know how it fares in the near future after having done a few full cycles on it. It proved to be quite a challenge to get it installed, but hey, everything seems to be working fine, for now at least.
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I'm so much interested if it runs properly... I love this terminal
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I'm so much interested if it runs properly... I love this terminal
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Well, to follow up on my previous promises;
Battery-life seems to be heavily dependent on the particular usage patterns and the specific ROM. I wouldn't say battery life's much better than with a new, stock battery, perhaps marginally better. It does take quite a while to charge though, and in most cases it won't be able to fully recharge without being shut off. Though that could also be due to the charger that I used.
I took a few screenshots of the battery section to get a rough estimate of the endurance of the battery, but due to other, unforeseen circumstances, I'm not able to retrieve them at this moment, though they did look promising!
Long story short - it'll work fairly well, but just go for the original battery, if you want it to work properly. As previously mentioned, I only went for the One X+ battery due to it being heavily discounted.
Hope that helps clear things up!