Why no smartphones with HUGE batt? - Captivate General

These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package...
Edit: I'm dead wrong about the iPod's batt capacity as rajendra82 has pointed out. It was 3.4 watt hour, not 3.4 amp hours. Sorry (for the record, the iPod's batt would be terribly insufficient as a modern phone batt in a smartphone)

eatkabab said:
These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package... sigh...
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh. The Samsung Captivate has a 5.55 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 1500 mAh. Since the battery capacity is directly proportional to the volume, a battery of 3000 mAh will be twice as big as our current battery. The biggest phones today (i.e., the EVO and Droid X) only ship with a 1300 mAh battery. 1500 mAH is plenty for this phone to get through the day. Battery life is typically rated at 1000 cycles, which is 3 years assuming a full day to go from 100% to 0%. You are likely to replace the phone in 3 years any way.

Our phones do have large batteries, and as long as you don't have a bad program, have the screen on super bright, or use it as a hot spot, the battery life is going to be good enough for nearly anyone.
The captivate has a HUGE percent of the volume dedicated to the battery already, without using a non standard (non rectangular prism) battery shape the phone thickness would need to greatly increase and have wasted space.
In simpler terms, when your battery is already good for the market, a thinner phone sells more than a marginal battery lfie increase.

What about weight? Does a bigger battery weigh significantly more?

I would love to have a bigger battery or one of those battery cases like my fiancee has for her iphone. I think the above comments are spot on, but i think what companies dont take into account is how much people use their phones for on a daily basis. I dont know about you, but I use my phone a hell of a lot during the day more so than what constitutes as 'just getting through the day'. If im lucky enough to make it through till the end of the day its skirting on the red. A backup battery would be awesome to have!

rajendra82 said:
The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh.
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Sorry, I just realized that. I must have missed the details about the ipod power.
I understand that the captivate technically has the "best" battery, but I do not agree that it will last through the day. I'm using my phone regularly to look up information, text, Gtalk, and make many calls. The phone is dead by the time I get home around 6pm (days start around 7:30am).
the iPad has a "10 hour batt life". My sister has her iPad lying around the house but she and I are much more often on our phones, so why don't our phones have a 10 hour batt life? I think its kinda difficult to use the ipad for 10 hours in a single day seeing that people usually work too. My phone is used for productive purposes usually, so it is very easy to drain it in the 4.5hrs it lasts on any day (not to mention difficult to get through an 8hr plane ride and still have juice to find your way to the hotel when you land). Last I checked, a day was at least 8 hours, not 4.5.
I also realize that they would have to ditch the rectangle/cube form factor of the batt in order to fill the space of a larger case more efficiently (something the iphone takes advantage of). I have nothing against this (or the added weight) and I don't think any other power user would care either.
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
Sigh...
Edit: I forgot to mention Virgin America has solved all flying problems with this nifty little thing called a power receptacle in each trio of seats.

There have been at least 10 different claims in the last 5-10 years from companys saying they've found a way to at least triple battery capacity.
so far none of them have made anything...

Have you ever seen those extended batteries that also replace the back cover? They look awful. It's great that the Captivate is so slim and light.
It's unlikely that enough people need that much power every day for manufacturers to implement a huge battery in every device.

Nevertheless, it would be great to have the option.
Third party batteries that replace the back cover haven't been designed by the manufacturer to take advantage of all the space available, they're just made afterwards for the (admittedly few) people who need to stay more than 12hrs without a power source.
If a manufacturer specifically made a phone to accomodate a larger battery, the uglyness+volume/duration ratio would be much better.
Imagine a qwerty slider with a large battery instead of the keyboard: you could live with the additional volume and you could go on for two full days without a powersource.
Personally I wouldn't ever make it without a car charger, I keep a spare battery around in case I need it and even carry a retractable microUSB as a key holder (I use my phone as a music player, the battery drains FAST).
I'm ok with that but a large capacity batt. would let me not have to care about how much juice I have left all the time, wich would be great.

eatkabab said:
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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You're not crazy. I think about the smartphone battery problem all the time. It's by far the biggest drawback of a smartphone. Even if you are using it lightly, you still have to charge every night, that is smartphone 101. And yet, if my friend iwth a little feature phone texts me all day, and I text them back all day, there phone... is fine. They can bascially run it all day for three days before needing to charge when it's new. My Captivate (or any other smartphone)... constantly having the screen on? It would be begging for battery after hours. Now of course, we have vastly better batteries than the feature phone, it's just the smartphone is doing significantly more. But still, yes, there should be a way, possibly with non-rectangular batteries, to significantly (at least double) battery life at a not massive cost to form factor and size. And yes, I'm sure there is a market here as well.

Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
Sent from my vibrant hybrid using XDA App

Bigger battery means more weight. Some manufacturers get a little more power out of the same physical size, but if you really want to double the battery, you double the size and double the weight.
Since the phones have no extra room inside, you wind up with a bigger phone.
All manufacturers are trying to balance size, weight and power. It is no coincidence that all the smartphones have near the same size battery.

ColbyRyptos said:
This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
Sent from my vibrant hybrid using XDA App
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This post pretty much leads me to believe more is going on than you're saying. With hybrid r3 I was getting two days with heavy usage, also gps isn't functional on that rom, so claiming to use it seems to be misinformed at best
Sent from my Samsung SGH-i897

beazie0885 said:
Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.

eatkabab said:
Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.

i agree that a phone with a super battery pack would be nice. me and my friends would always talk about if we could make our own phones what we would want and i always said something that would give me nice battery life so the idea i came up with was this
by default most phones come with a 1500 mah battery
but why not add a non traditional form factor to the rest of the case adding battery to and around the phone like in the area around the camera in the front of the phone around the side of the phone kinda like some of this battery jackets we see coming out for the iphone 4
i think it would add maybe just a built more bulk to the phone i'm still using a tilt so i'm used to carryin a bulky phone
i've always been interested in seeing super cap or ultra cap tech being put into a smartphone figuring if we can't go all day with our battery at least let us be able to get a full charge with in a few minutes ya know
i see ultra and super cap tech starting to be put in remotes were you can charge it in 1 minute to 5 minutes and not have to charge it for two weeks that kinda tech in a cell would be lovely

I, for one, would give up the cool looking indent in the back of the captivate (where the metal cover is) if they would fill that space with battery. It wouldn't increase the size of the phone (much), wouldn't make it bulgy, and I could see it giving at least 50% better battery life.
Even if the phone was blobby, plenty of people are buying Droid phones, and those things are frikin' mon calamari cruisers.

alphadog00 said:
Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
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obviously they would have to make the phone a tad thicker and its already so light weight that adding double the batt weight would still keep it weighing less than an Evo

the Samsung Captivate battery is pretty beefy if you ask me, I don't know how they would fit a processor and other components in the phone if they got a bigger battery

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Battery life vs Quality?

My phone has a dinky little TI OMAP 180mhz chip and the battery life still seems short to me. The battery is a no name chinese 2000mah made in 08. Using wifi with the screen on the lowest readable backlight setting I get about 4-6 hours of usage with light browsing. High backlight, about 2 hours at most. I was just thinking though, all of these new phones have 1000-1500 mah batteries and much more powerful processors yet still retain usability. Pretty much if I do anything other than talk on the phone, I will have to charge the phone every day. Would I benefit from a name brand battery?
Also the first half of the battery life really feels like 80% of the battery life. That last half has nothing!
oic0 said:
My phone has a dinky little TI OMAP 180mhz chip and the battery life still seems short to me. The battery is a no name chinese 2000mah made in 08. Using wifi with the screen on the lowest readable backlight setting I get about 6 hours of usage. High backlight, about 2 hours at most. I was just thinking though, all of these new phones have 1000-1500 mah batteries and much more powerful processors yet still retain usability. Would I benefit from a name brand battery?
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I'd say a BIG yes to that. To see the difference try using a new battery. Even if its within the 1500mAh limit. Your bound to see a world of difference. My phone the HTC touch has an 1100mAh which i'd definitely call small by the current standards. Yet it gives me about two days worth of usage on a single charge. The battery is about a year old. If your using a genuine HTC handset, needless to say invest in a good original battery. Very useful.
Sadly it isn't an HTC I hang out here a lot because of all of the useful software the forum goers make and all of the useful general knowledge.
It's a no name Chinese phone.
The battery is a GB/T 18287-2000 but when I look that part number up they all look different and even have the terminals in different spots (what use is a part number if it means nothing?). Guess I am stuck with these crappy no name batteries that probably don't put out their spec. It really is a huge battery though. Seems to be about the same dimensions as my screen (3.2inch). A shame it doesn't last long.
use omap clock and downclock if you want more battery

Touch Pro 2 battery In DZ

Hey All,
Today I decided to look into a larger capacity battery for my DZ NAM, and I took a look at my old Touch Pro 2...
The Battery fits quite well, its 1500mAh as opposed to the 1300 with the DZ.
I had to trim out the plastic on the TP2 battery, and then place it in upside down.
The cover pops up slightly after the battery is in, nothing that would bother you lots, in other words its not as flush as the original DZ battery.
I am going to use it to swap out between my 2 batteries.
Hope this helps, not bad for a free battery in my case
Great news !!
I have also a BA-S390 from my old Touch Pro 2... I'll try this tonight !
When you charge the battery inside the phone is it getting hotter or colder than the original DZ battery ?
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Len,
To get 2.5 days out of a smartphone you must firstly not be overclocking at all, and secondly you must not have used it one bit.
2.5 days = total non usage
Even the iphone4 with its powersaving a4 chip does not get 2.5 days, unless you dont touch the beast.
And i like to generally use my phone
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Len,
To get 2.5 days out of a smartphone you must firstly not be overclocking at all, and secondly you must not have used it one bit.
2.5 days = total non usage
Even the iphone4 with its powersaving a4 chip does not get 2.5 days, unless you dont touch the beast.
And i like to generally use my phone
JD
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Actually I am overclocked to 1.4ghz and underclocked for screen off.
You are right, I hardly touched the phone at all, I did need it as an alarm twice in the time I was without a charger. (I was forced into this situation by leaving my charger at work)
But it shows that with no use the phone only loses 1% a day.
I generally lose about 2-4 percent an hour not in use. But my phone is sync'ed up to everything, lol
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Mine was down at 30% after exactly 48 hours.
Which is great, cause I did use it. Played Angry birds, sent sms and made a phonecall.
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Who said anything about fuss?
I was pointing out that the TP2 battery works, and is larger capacity... I have a ton of reasons to have a second battery and would rather not spend an extra $40.
I travel lots... and I use my phone to watch tv on the plan.
Not sure about how hot the battery gets on charge, haven't used it much yet.
As for the original I get 2 days with moderate use.
Blesseld said:
Who said anything about fuss?
I was pointing out that the TP2 battery works, and is larger capacity... I have a ton of reasons to have a second battery and would rather not spend an extra $40.
I travel lots... and I use my phone to watch tv on the plan.
Not sure about how hot the battery gets on charge, haven't used it much yet.
As for the original I get 2 days with moderate use.
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that comment wasn't aimed at you
Just that there have been lots of complaints about battery life on this phone (and the desire HD)...those people obviously never had a Desire as the battery life on the Z and HD are loads better than the desire ever was.
agreed, I find the stock battery tollerable on my DZ
@Blesseld: i also have a tp2 battery lying around, so if you happen to charge it, i would be really thankful for any reports about the charging behavior...
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@Blesseld: i also have a tp2 battery lying around, so if you happen to charge it, i would be really thankful for any reports about the charging behavior...
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I'll do a little test tonight/tomorrow and report back.
Cheers
I have descended from tp2pro aswell, and must admit that I have used my old tp2 battery from the second day I had a DZ. I must admit I have 'trimmed' it so that it doesn't cause any bulge on the metal flap covering the batt compartment, and I can say that even though the old batt is 6 months old it performs well enough to get me through the whole working day. I do make a lot of calls a day, I keep I-net connection constantly on, and I never switch Bluetooth off....
I realize its a heavy load on the battery but afterall I got the fone to do its job (calls, emails, driving, gps, etc).
The battery lasts well into from 8am to 7pm (with my heavy usage) but must say that whenever I'm driving I will have fone charging, regardless of its power level.
Nevertheless, I have a spare battery at hand ( original DZ one) should the worst happen.
FYI, my daily batt stats is usually as follows: display 30percent, voice calls 35 percent, and remaining 35 percent spread somewhat evenly amongst remaining series that have to run in the background.
Unfortunately though, I haven't got enough experience with the original DZ battery, to give you a comparison.... remember I used it only for a day or two, when I was still getting used to the whole new world of android and DZ
sent from htc desire Z
Does anyone have experience with the 1800mAh Mugen battery from the TP2 in the DZ? I'm tempted to go for that assuming it fits...?

An extended battery not requiring a bigger back cover that actually works?

Hey guys,
Spent some time searching and reading the relevant threads on G2x, and the final consensus seems to me that there is no widespread agreement with respect to the question I've posed in the thread title. It seems to me that the only extended batteries that are guaranteed to give more than just a 30-60min boost are the 3000mah+ batteries that require using a much larger back cover that turns the G2x into a G2XL.
Hoping there's someone who can prove me wrong. I'm about to buy the G2x for its fantastic specs and low price for use on T-Mobile's prepaid monthly plan. Andida extended battery gets mixed reviews. Same for Prodicell batteries. The one battery for which I'd like to see some results is the "Seidio Innocell 1750mAh Slim Extended Battery for use with LG Thrill 4G, Optimus 3D, LG G2X and Optimus 2X" listed on Amazon.com. (Couldn't post link due to my low post number).
Any thoughts thus far? Will I need to turn my G2x smartphone into a giantphone to get noticeable increases in battery life?
zeth006 said:
Hey guys,
Spent some time searching and reading the relevant threads on G2x, and the final consensus seems to me that there is no widespread agreement with respect to the question I've posed in the thread title. It seems to me that the only extended batteries that are guaranteed to give more than just a 30-60min boost are the 3000mah+ batteries that require using a much larger back cover that turns the G2x into a G2XL.
Hoping there's someone who can prove me wrong. I'm about to buy the G2x for its fantastic specs and low price for use on T-Mobile's prepaid monthly plan. Andida extended battery gets mixed reviews. Same for Prodicell batteries. The one battery for which I'd like to see some results is the "Seidio Innocell 1750mAh Slim Extended Battery for use with LG Thrill 4G, Optimus 3D, LG G2X and Optimus 2X" listed on Amazon.com. (Couldn't post link due to my low post number).
Any thoughts thus far? Will I need to turn my G2x smartphone into a giantphone to get noticeable increases in battery life?
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You were searching in the wrong forum. Try the G2x Accessories forum.
But here is a link for a 2430Mah the same size as the original.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259122
GTWalling said:
You were searching in the wrong forum. Try the G2x Accessories forum.
But here is a link for a 2430Mah the same size as the original.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259122
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I read about the so-called "gold" batteries. I'm reserving final judgment but remaining skeptical until we can get some extensive tests showing they're worth replacing the stock.
zeth006 said:
Hey guys,
Any thoughts thus far? Will I need to turn my G2x smartphone into a giantphone to get noticeable increases in battery life?
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As they say in the automotive world, "There's no replacement for displacement"..
Basically, yeah, if you want a noticeable increase in battery life, then you will need to accept a noticeable increase in battery size. No way around it.
I have seen people spend $50 or more on 'name brand' extended batteries that are the same size as stock, and they rarely give any more battery life than a brand new stock battery.
Think about it - with the phone market as competitive as it is, if there were a battery that offered significant increases in battery life without an increase in size, do you think the major manufacturers would ignore that and allow some Chinese knock-off company to capitalize on it? Not a chance.
lotherius said:
As they say in the automotive world, "There's no replacement for displacement"..
Basically, yeah, if you want a noticeable increase in battery life, then you will need to accept a noticeable increase in battery size. No way around it.
I have seen people spend $50 or more on 'name brand' extended batteries that are the same size as stock, and they rarely give any more battery life than a brand new stock battery.
Think about it - with the phone market as competitive as it is, if there were a battery that offered significant increases in battery life without an increase in size, do you think the major manufacturers would ignore that and allow some Chinese knock-off company to capitalize on it? Not a chance.
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You're probably right.
Back in the day (remember when cellphones were, well, just cellphones?) it was just Sanyo and Panasonic and a few other Japanese companies dominating the lithium-ion battery market. Now even Samsung's caught up to them in terms of market share and they've been working overtime to get as much battery life as possible out of their phones. And they have to--check out the competition lately!
Bah. I guess I'm pretty much left to working on every single possible software fix to up my battery life. I'll be reading up on the ROM guides. I hear CM7 is a good rom.
I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery...ccessories&hash=item4161e46d48#ht_2079wt_1270
Hammett11 said:
I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
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Yeah, I've been looking at those. There's also a 3900mah battery available. But the 4500mah pushes it way too far!
Hammett11 said:
I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery...ccessories&hash=item4161e46d48#ht_2079wt_1270
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i know that a case would make it even thicker... but do they have tpu cases or some type of cover that protects the corners?
I have been looking for something similar, a case for my extended 3500 mAh battery. The back IS larger, of course, the battery appears to be slightly more that double the depth of the stock battery. However, that being said, the design could be worse. I saw another extended battery that was the same size with a god awful protruding rectangle that made the phone look completely off balance. The battery I purchased here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3500mAh...ccessories&hash=item2a18e3208c#ht_1358wt_1041 looks, eh, alright
But anyways, I figure the only hope is for me to make a mould of the phone, and perhaps build one.
For OP I use the Andida 1980mah and it works great. It tests at 1980mah and gives me significant life over stock.
1500 vs 1980
Same size as stock for around $10
Sent from my LG-P999
Razorblood said:
For OP I use the Andida 1980mah and it works great. It tests at 1980mah and gives me significant life over stock.
1500 vs 1980
Same size as stock for around $10
Sent from my LG-P999
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I'm personally hesitant to commit to that battery. I went ahead and got a 3500mah battery. So far, the performance is quite good. It's allowed me to experiment with other rom/kernel packages that aren't as battery-friendly as tsugi, but offer tons of tweaks.
Hammett11 said:
I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery...ccessories&hash=item4161e46d48#ht_2079wt_1270
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With stock battery and medium-heavy usage I can get 18 hours on EB and Trinity.... I would think I could easily get into the range of 12-16 with Heavy, but you probably mean EXTREMELY heavy usage.
Also, many people said the Andida battery gave them a few hours extra, thought of trying it but when I look at the ebay page for it the packaging looks extremely cheap... Which leads me to believe the battery is probably also very cheaply made and could easily fry your phone.
Razorblood said:
For OP I use the Andida 1980mah and it works great. It tests at 1980mah and gives me significant life over stock.
1500 vs 1980
Same size as stock for around $10
Sent from my LG-P999
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I've also had good luck with this battery, definitely better than stock. I haven't tested it scientifically, this is purely an anecdotal opinion based on using both for a long time.
i've been using the 3500 mah battery for around 6 months, no problem.
the original 1500 mah battery is bull****, it only supports your phone for like 12 hours max, you have to keep looking at the battery level if you dont want your phone endup dead.
with the extended battery i can go all day long, in heavy 3g mode. yes its bulky, but you will get what you're looking for. luckily i got it with a pair of desktop charger that i put in my office and home desk, so i never miss any recharge.
i dont think 1980 battery will improve a lot, on paper it suppose to add another 2-3 hours of battery time. but compare it with the 3500, and you will have 150% plus on your battery life.
i got it for $9 in spider-foot dot com
http://www.amazon.com/CHICHITEC-Bat...-cellphone/dp/B00520BC3M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_6
1700 mAh -- not hugely better in terms of mAh.. but it makes a big difference for me. the stock battery will not last a whole day (12 hrs) - but I easily get 17-18 hrs from the chichitec.. just saying. .
I have easily gotten >24 hrs in low usage.. i think best was 22hrs to 40%.. but that was wifi and a couple phone calls only on Morfic's XLP-GB kernel.. a bit on the pokey side.. but okay for wifi calling ..
arvonn said:
http://www.amazon.com/CHICHITEC-Bat...-cellphone/dp/B00520BC3M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_6
1700 mAh -- not hugely better in terms of mAh.. but it makes a big difference for me. the stock battery will not last a whole day (12 hrs) - but I easily get 17-18 hrs from the chichitec.. just saying. .
I have easily gotten >24 hrs in low usage.. i think best was 22hrs to 40%.. but that was wifi and a couple phone calls only on Morfic's XLP-GB kernel.. a bit on the pokey side.. but okay for wifi calling ..
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thanks, I've been on the fence between ordering the 2x chichitecs or the 2x 1800 hyperions... think I might go with the chihitecs now. I've read in reviews that the included charger sucks though, doesn't always work... hows your experience with it?
diontoradan said:
i've been using the 3500 mah battery for around 6 months, no problem.
the original 1500 mah battery is bull****, it only supports your phone for like 12 hours max, you have to keep looking at the battery level if you dont want your phone endup dead.
with the extended battery i can go all day long, in heavy 3g mode. yes its bulky, but you will get what you're looking for. luckily i got it with a pair of desktop charger that i put in my office and home desk, so i never miss any recharge.
i dont think 1980 battery will improve a lot, on paper it suppose to add another 2-3 hours of battery time. but compare it with the 3500, and you will have 150% plus on your battery life.
i got it for $9 in spider-foot dot com
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12 hours? Bull****. I can easily get over a day on the stock battery and 3 on a 3500.
Maybe on the stock ROM the battery is that bad, but no ROM here gives that bad battery
And not only does that 3500 mAh battery give you 150% more battery, it makes your phone look like a retarded bloated whale and a viable floatation device, What a steal!
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12 hours? Bull****. I can easily get over a day on the stock battery and 3 on a 3500.
Maybe on the stock ROM the battery is that bad, but no ROM here gives that bad battery
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deffinitlynot that bad im at 81% on 8 hours running ics and OC with the stock battery
IRASadPanda said:
12 hours? Bull****. I can easily get over a day on the stock battery and 3 on a 3500.
Maybe on the stock ROM the battery is that bad, but no ROM here gives that bad battery
And not only does that 3500 mAh battery give you 150% more battery, it makes your phone look like a retarded bloated whale and a viable floatation device
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I can confirm that on the stock, my phone lasts 12h on average. I'm using EB with ELP Trinity.
Keep in mind that how much a phone lasts you is a very subjective statistic. You can use a phone much less/more than someone else, and thus the battery life would be longer/shorter. The appearance of the extended 3500mAh batteries is also subjective.
If we're going to be objective here:
The stock battery lasts about 4-6h of active usage (having the screen on, with a data connection, and running applications that actually make use of the CPU). How many hours of light usage/stand-by someone might have in between those 4-6h of usage varies from person to person. (i.e. someone might use their phone heavily for an hour, then have 5h of really light usage/stand-by, then another hour of heavy usage, and so on until a cumulative 4-6h of active usage has been accumulated)
The extended 3500mAh battery, while doubling the thickness of your phone also increases your battery life 150%-200%.
The reviews for extended batteries that are the same size as stock aren't at all consistent. They vary from people saying they perform worse, to people saying they give a much longer battery life. The only battery that has mostly positive reviews is the Anker 1550mAh, which has been told to run cooler and last a bit longer. Of course having only a 50mAh advantage over the stock, the increase in life shouldn't be expected to be too substantial.
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I can confirm that on the stock, my phone lasts 12h on average. I'm using EB with ELP Trinity.
Keep in mind that how much a phone lasts you is a very subjective statistic. You can use a phone much less/more than someone else, and thus the battery life would be longer/shorter. The appearance of the extended 3500mAh batteries is also subjective.
If we're going to be objective here:
The stock battery lasts about 4-6h of active usage (having the screen on, with a data connection, and running applications that actually make use of the CPU). How many hours of light usage/stand-by someone might have in between those 4-6h of usage varies from person to person. (i.e. someone might use their phone heavily for an hour, then have 5h of really light usage/stand-by, then another hour of heavy usage, and so on until a cumulative 4-6h of active usage has been accumulated)
The extended 3500mAh battery, while doubling the thickness of your phone also increases your battery life 150%-200%.
The reviews for extended batteries that are the same size as stock aren't at all consistent. They vary from people saying they perform worse, to people saying they give a much longer battery life. The only battery that has mostly positive reviews is the Anker 1550mAh, which has been told to run cooler and last a bit longer. Of course having only a 50mAh advantage over the stock, the increase in life shouldn't be expected to be too substantial.
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That's gotta be the ELP voltages being too low for you and thus causing higher battery drain, try the T15 and undervolt till you find your voltage sweet spot, you will get way better battery than that.
I use my phone pretty heavily through the day, Music, Games, text, web, calls, etc... and I'm getting much higher than 12 hours.
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battery issue is not an issue

Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...
No matter how big batteries are, they will ALWAYS fall short for some people. There is no way around it.
The stock batteries in most phones are good enough for average users. You're not one and that's okay - but that's why there are choices.
The SG3 stock battery lasts me the day about 6/7 times - I only feel pinched the day I have a large break and might want to watch video or play games for an extended period of time.
I had options. I could have gotten an extended battery - no swapping, just bigger phone just like you clamp to want. This is available without having to get a phone that may not have good developer support.
You deride external chargers and spares, but you need to chill and realise that different people have different needs and that's why choice is good.
I like having spares. Opening my phone up and changing takes only seconds and I can them in my pocket or bag and I can charge a battery while using a different one. I hardly ever plug the phone itself in any more.
External chargers can power multiple devices and have HUGE capacities compared to even very large extended batteries.
There are so many choices at I don't tnk this is a big/any issue. No battery will be big enough for everyone unless perhaps the technology is completely revolutionised beyond what it is capable of today.
So yeah. Battery issue is not an issue.
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Putting in larger batteries makes the phone in turn bigger and heavier.
That's why they probably limit it as people prefer thinner and lighter phones!
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I'm satisfied with the battery life of my s3. I take it for granted that i need to use a charger if i continouisly use it. I wouldn't want my device to be even bigger, left alone to weigh anymore than it does already....
Frankly, if the average (read: majority) user had such a problem with battery life more companies would invest a lot more on battery research.
I could've used a more battery friendly ROM on my phone and have it last days on my 1700mAh battery, but I don't bother because at the end of most days I'm left with something above 20%.
I have three spares I never use plus the three year old stock battery, and I've not really ever needed them.
I'm also not really a big fan of "perfection", which for example is why I'm not an iOS user.
Perfection is synonymous with boring in the tech world, and battery constraints actually demands something from the phone designers.
That demand holds more value than most can imagine.
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I carry no bag
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mostly phones are quite light and 10-20g extra wouldn't be a noticeable difference. not importantly noticeable.
the only mobile phone I had in my life with no battery disappointments was nokia 15 years ago. all phones since they support 3g, failed me.
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New technology has higher power requirements. It's not fair to compare phones today to one's from 15 years ago - I mean, dude, back then it's not like you were doing anything other than calls on that thing - certainly no streaming or anything.
I only have a bag on school days - but I have pockets. And really, it's not about either of us - it's about choices and everyone else. Plenty of people Do have bags or briefcases or something every day. You can't just think of your own habits.
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My phone has 1.5W (pick) consumption with 3" screen
I just bought a 58WH portable power http://www.mrbattery.com.tw/product_detail.php?pid=MBP0001023
It's able to let my brightness100% and CPU stick on 1.6GHz for 3 days and nights!
I own a HTC Desire hd previously. That phone battery life was totally horrible. I had to carry a portable charger everywhere. In comparison, s3's battery life is beyond excellent. (Note: I disabled most of the power drawing apps/functions.)
With that being said, having a large capacity battery is one of the main thing I look out for when buying a phone.
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We're kind of at the end of the rope concerning battery capacity. There are just no easy ways to store a lot of energy in a small place. If we were able to build batteries with higher capacities in reasonable formats, we would already have them. Every new advance in battery technology only adds a small percentage of capacity or lengthens its usable service life somewhat.
But I do agree that the phones are now at a comfortable size, battery life should not be sacrificed for thinner phones. I bought the extended battery for my S II, it only makes the phone a 3 mm thicker, but that does add 20% of battery life. IMO they should have released the phone like that, but then they would have not been able to market it as the thinnest phone.

Extended Life Battery tempts me:) (a.k.a. extended battery discussion thread)

So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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uuh... the relay is already quite thick, with that battery it will be huge... i personally wouldn't, but it's a matter of personal taste
I had an extended battery on my Doubleshot before this - the bulk didn't really bother me. Maybe I'm strange but I didn't mind. Especially with the battery life I got.
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i has extended batteries for my G1 one back then. i used them when i took the device with me geocaching. I had two of them and they made the device stay up longer than i ever did
downside with the bulky back covers is, that the device won't fit into any pouches no more. and, of course cases no longer fit either.
but once you're used to the shape - imho - the added thickness is no longer disturbing.
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So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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You can go for this solution....1/5th of Mugen's price:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product/hyperion-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-sgh-t699-2-x-battery-charger/
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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Nope. No NFC.
I've had my Relay 4G about a month and a half now, and am already looking at getting an extended battery. I find myself charging it a few times a day - sometimes I'll only get maybe 3 hours before it's "critically low". Yes, I do use it a ton - it's currently my main computer, since I rarely have access to my parents' laptop and my desktop, whose case+mobo+cpu I recently sent to the recycle bin, bit the dust over a year ago. Also I have unlimited unthrottled 4G on T-Mobile (and used well over 10-12GB last month, & this (billing) month am currently at 12.21GB since April 28.
I've seen the Mugen 4600mAh battery with NFC online around $90 (way too rich for my blood), and the EZOPower 4100mAh (no NFC) for around $17-23 or so at Amazon or NewEgg, among other places. I was originally wary of the cheap price on the EZO, but if the huge price difference is due to NFC and not being a cheaply made battery, I'd want the EZO, possibly 2. I don't use the NFC hardly at all, and I suppose if I really need it sometime I could pop the original stock battery back in for the occasion.
So any reason for me to NOT get the EZOPower 4100mAh? If I get 2, I'll probably also want an external charging solution so I can charge one while using the other. Also is there a hardshell case (with a built-in stand) available that fits the phone with the larger battery door? BTW unavailability of those two things won't be dealbreakers for me getting the battery. I had an extended battery for my G1, and that phone finally bit the dust after ~4+ years. (I wonder if my SGH-T699 will last that long…)
would somebody care to explain to be why nfc is dependand on the battery?
the batteries have just the same 4 connectors as any other cell battery i always had in my hands.
or are they made of materials that don't shield the nfc waves passing though?
nfc antenna is in the battery casing. NFC antennas go for about $5 on ebay, if you figured out which two connectors go to the nfc you could probably set up your own if your battery doesn't support it.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
EZO battery
orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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I also picked up two EZO batteries. They have a well made cover and last for twice what stock does. Unfortunately it didn't have a NFC antenna and both have now swollen up to the point they no longer fit. While I had left them plugged in after full charge, they seem to stay warm and not tolerate it well. Can't say how well they could have lasted if better cared for, but abuse or overcharging seems to effect them quickly.
Does the mugen or other brands also have issues? If anyone else have suggestions.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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Well, it just displays a percentage. It at least seems accurate while logging with Juice Defender's graph, it would track down at fairly consistent rate until charged or out of power. As for swapping over to a Relay, It's about as well supported as any slider out right now. I haven't been disappointed.
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the EZObattery rocks. For $19 (I got mine on ebay) I get 2 days and a few hours into the 3rd before needing a charge.
I have the same issue kilr00y mentioned about it not fitting into pouches or cases except I found now that the phone is harder to flip open and safely hold at the same time while doing 90 other things at once which is when I always need to use the phone. I keep an aftermarket case on the front screen part but can't find an extended back case. I made my own from a tube of black silicone but would love to hear it if anyone finds another option. I don't mind if the phone turns into 1988 brick style size so long as the battery lasts and I don't crack the screen again.
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
rudias said:
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
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It looks good. Be aware that most "extended" battery will not last long... In particular when they have a lower voltage than the original battery. Lot of battery with higher mAh run at 3.7V instead of 3.8V this make it last shorter than the original.
I've had 2 of the EZOPower 4100mAh batteries, and am experiencing the same problem that stonefoz mentioned about the batteries swelling. In my case, for example, the current one has gotten to where the cover will just spontaneously pop off, and the battery will dislodge, forcing the phone to lose power. Also, regarding his "staying warm" comment - sometimes when I was doing something extensive on the phone, it'd sometimes get so hot, especially the keyboard area, that I could barely hold it, and that concerns me some.
I believe the second one has lasted longer than my first, though. It's not quite as bad now as my first was when I replaced it. I bought my first one May 18, 2013, and my second one September 18, 2013, 4 months later. It's lasted till now, May 7, 2014, 7 and a half months later, but it's about time to replace it.
It looks like it's no longer available, but I was thinking I should try a different one anyway.
One option is this 4600 mAh Mugen battery for about $90, and another is this 5000 mAh MPJ battery for about $35. The MPJ does say it's only 3.7 volts, which according to scaltro could be a concern with longevity per charge.
I definitely would like better battery life. I've noticed that playing FarmVille 2: Country Escape is quite a drain - I'd go from full battery to getting the low battery warning after only something like 2 to 3 hours or so, even with the EZO battery. Earlier, I popped in the factory Samsung battery, topped off its charge, then decided to test battery life playing FV2. I also turned on bluetooth (and sent the sounds to an external speaker), cranked the screen brightness all the way up, and turned off power saver mode, in an attempt to get a "worst-case scenario". I tried turning on WiFi (we have a hotspot here now) but it wouldn't connect to the game server, so I just went through my unlimited+unthrottled 4G.
The results:
2:45am - battery full, unplugged
4:15am - battery 22% (I checked it a few times along the way periodically, but neglected to note the times)
4:23am - battery 14%, had just gotten the battery low popup warning
4:33am - battery 5%, battery critically low popup warning
4:35am - battery 3%, then I went and plugged it in.
So, it lasted only about an hour and 50 minutes from full to 3% remaining. I'm hoping a good battery would be able to go all day and all night and into the next day with similarly-intensive use. (No I wouldn't be playing games the entire time of course!)
Personally, if the $35 MPJ battery would be good enough, and significantly better than the EZO, I'd prefer to go for that one.
I'm wondering, though, if the $90 Mugen is a huge leap up in quality, though (disregarding the NFC for now which I haven't had to use)? It's a bit rich for my blood to drop all at once on a battery for a phone ... BUT, their website tells me they accept returns up to a year later (and I've gone through TWO EZOs in that time), which gives me some hope. If, overall, I'd be spending less by getting one Mugen and it outlasting 4 or 5 EZOs (if they were still available), I'd get that.
On a side note, it'll be a while before I can afford to replace my phone, but when I do, I'd really like a good QWERTY keyboard. I see that very few phones come with them now, though, and the ones that are are near the bottom of the barrel spec-wise. I'm thinking I'll need to get an external compact bluetooth or USB keyboard with my next phone, and expand my options for the phone itself. Ideally I'd like to get one that I can put in a flip case, with the phone in the other side of it, and close it when I'm not using it. (Although, there is the concern with getting the phone out quickly to answer calls, although I maybe only talk 25-50 minutes a month or so.) Any suggestions on what to look for in the case/keyboard department, for example? Chances are it won't be till 2015 at the earliest (and my wallet hopes my Galaxy S Relay 4G will last through 2016 or so unless it dies or something else goes seriously wrong) before I get a new phone, but I like to start my search early. When I do get one, I'm hoping it'll last at least 4-5 years, and maybe stretch it to 7-10 if I'm pressed for cash then.
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
orange808 said:
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Honestly, I got about the same results with my EZO battery: just over 9 hours of constant heavy use. Other than the fact it swelled up, it worked great. I guess there was a reason it was so cheap...
I had a Mugen battery for my Sidekick 4G before I bought the Relay and it still works great. (I loaned the SK4G to a friend that broke his phone.) My new Mugen hasn't had any problems, but I've only had it a few months.
Combined with TeamApex's Cyanogen and this awesome QWERTY keyboard, my extended batteries have made this phone the most productive and useful device I have ever owned. I can't say enough great things about ApexTmo, the Relay, and extended batteries.

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