Hey people,
I have a quick question that google coudln't solve.
1. what does the information inside the battery compartment mean? (Wattage, rating, etc.)
2. If 2 phones have the same rating and use the same charger, why does one charge significantly faster than the other?
3. |EXTRA CREDIT| Is there anyway to hack a phone/battery to stay powered on beyond the default voltage?
Thanks in advance!!
Bump!! I googled and could not find any information.
drago10029 said:
Hey people,
I have a quick question that google coudln't solve.
1. what does the information inside the battery compartment mean? (Wattage, rating, etc.)
2. If 2 phones have the same rating and use the same charger, why does one charge significantly faster than the other?
3. |EXTRA CREDIT| Is there anyway to hack a phone/battery to stay powered on beyond the default voltage?
Thanks in advance!!
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1. They're the ratings of the power supply (battery) the phone needs to operate. It needs that voltage to operate and the phone will draw that amount of current.
2. It could be anything from different battery capacities (if you're talking two different phone models, look for mAh on the batteries) to one phone doing more in the background than the other to minor manufacturing variations.
3. I don't understand what you mean by this question. I guess you're talking about how to get more battery life out of the phone? Google should help with that, you're probably just not wording the question properly.
Hope this helps.
drago10029 said:
Hey people,
I have a quick question that google coudln't solve.
1. what does the information inside the battery compartment mean? (Wattage, rating, etc.)
2. If 2 phones have the same rating and use the same charger, why does one charge significantly faster than the other?
3. |EXTRA CREDIT| Is there anyway to hack a phone/battery to stay powered on beyond the default voltage?
Thanks in advance!!
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1. exactly what it means, wattage, etc
2. charger usb end could be wired differently, not all are wired the same even though they look the same
3. no .... i want the credit
@vincom @member thanks for the responses. and the 3rd was about the modding a phone/battery/kernel to utilize virtually the whole battery instead of shutting off at the usual voltage rating for the phone model.
drago10029 said:
@vincom @member thanks for the responses. and the 3rd was about the modding a phone/battery/kernel to utilize virtually the whole battery instead of shutting off at the usual voltage rating for the phone model.
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Volt and mAh. You're probably talking about mAh.
I can't say I know, but, I think that roms such as CM will usually eat up all of the battery if you let it.
Also it's bad for these kind of batteries to be fully emptied. It decreases their volume so that every time you fully empty this battery it will charge a little bit less energy when recharged. It's better to leave a little bit of energy (like 5%). :good:
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Volt and mAh. You're probably talking about mAh.
I can't say I know, but, I think that roms such as CM will usually eat up all of the battery if you let it.
Also it's bad for these kind of batteries to be fully emptied. It decreases their volume so that every time you fully empty this battery it will charge a little bit less energy when recharged. It's better to leave a little bit of energy (like 5%). :good:
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Honestly at the rate most people switch phones and being the owner of a phone with a removable battery, As long as I'm getting the longest battery life that all that matter's thanks to companies like anker. also I understand your point though.
drago10029 said:
Honestly at the rate most people switch phones and being the owner of a phone with a removable battery, As long as I'm getting the longest battery life that all that matter's thanks to companies like anker. also I understand your point though.
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I don't get your point.
Do you mean that these phones are just throwaway devices like those red plastic liquor cups so you might as well squeeze all the juice out of it whil you're at it?
I've had my Skyrocket for a year now and I bought it used too. I'm going to keep it until it f**king dies from natural causes.
Not because I have to, but because I realized that I don't need a phone with an ultra HD display, an octa-core CPU and 8 gigs of ram.
It's past ridiculous now, now it's just redundant. The peak of the smartphone as we know it has come an end, see how the difference between the S3 and the S4 is not as big as it was between the S2 and the S3? Same thing with Iphone5 and 5S.
It's because there's no point. We don't need that much power in our phones. We don't even notice the difference in performance.
They have to come up with totally new stuff for the hype to rise again. They're going to drag it out though. Because you know, money.
There are some interesting ideas that are being held back on purpose, like the smartphone-dock that turns it into a PC. Do you see Apple / Samsung selling these docks? Of cource not. Because without it they can sell the same thing twice: as two separate devices.
Or how the software is made in a specifc manner that it makes your phone seem slow.. and it makes you want to buy an new and "better" phone. Really, software nowadays is like there's no such thing as optimization.
Haha pouring my soul out here lolz, cheerio mate
Meanwhile, here's Nokia's Morph concept:
lingowistico said:
I don't get your point.
Do you mean that these phones are just throwaway devices like those red plastic liquor cups so you might as well squeeze all the juice out of it whil you're at it?
I've had my Skyrocket for a year now and I bought used too. I'm going to keep it until it f**king dies from natural causes.
Not because I have to, but because I realized that I don't need a phone with an ultra HD display, an octa-core CPU and 8 gigs of ram.
It's past ridiculous now, now it's just redundant. The peak of smartphone as we know has come and went, see how the difference between the S3 and the S4 is not as big as it was between the S2 and the S3? Same thing with Iphone5 and 5S.
It's because there's no point. We don't need that much power in our phones. We don't even notice the difference in performance, unless they bug up the update for the older device so as to demonstrate how much "better" the new one is.
They have to come up with totally new stuff for the hype to rise again. They're going to drag it out though. Because you know, money.
There are some interesting ideas that are being held back on purpose, like the smartphone-dock that turns it into a PC. If you can sell both a PC and a smartphone, then why not?
Or how the software is made in a specifc manner that it makes your phone seem slow.. so as to make you buy a new and "faster" phone.
Haha pouring my soul out here lolz, cheerio mate
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I feel you sentiment friend.
I agree hence why I got a GS2 skyrocket. I agree as well the majority of innovation happening in phones is the wrong innovation!
Battery life can get better but it a lot more expensive for the consumer if it doesn't. and YOU'RE RIGHT companies are dragging things out but it's honestly because people are mindlessly buying into the galaxy and apple brand. It's sad for us tech dreamers and for true techies.
with that said I do believe I wanna just squeeze the maximum out of my device, within reason though. I believe the battery is within reason since if a batter ygoes beyong it's voltage it's longevity will be shorter but it's only 10$ for a replacement and that's super cheap IMO.
p.s. the nano technology would be awesome! CES has been a bust a lot of years so far because the big companies aren't really trying like you said anymore :/
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I feel you sentiment friend.
I agree hence why I got a GS2 skyrocket. I agree as well the majority of innovation happening in phones is the wrong innovation!
Battery life can get better but it a lot more expensive for the consumer if it doesn't. and YOU'RE RIGHT companies are dragging things out but it's honestly because people are mindlessly buying into the galaxy and apple brand. It's sad for us tech dreamers and for true techies.
with that said I do believe I wanna just squeeze the maximum out of my device, within reason though. I believe the battery is within reason since if a batter ygoes beyong it's voltage it's longevity will be shorter but it's only 10$ for a replacement and that's super cheap IMO.
p.s. the nano technology would be awesome! CES has been a bust a lot of years so far because the big companies aren't really trying like you said anymore :/
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It's not that it's sad. It doesn't matter what brand it is, when your goal is to make as much money as possible then that's what you're going to do.
Yeah I know they're really cheap (at least the knockoffs) I even got two spare ones myself.
Actually, I usually use the battery until the phone dies off. I told you that just in case.
Also a battery's capacity is usually measured in milliampere-hour or mAh. Not voltage.
About CES, the big companies are trying very hard indeed, I'm sure thir R&D's are working their butts off. Behind closed doors.
So they can milk this cow for as long as possible.
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It's not that it's sad. It doesn't matter what brand it is, when your goal is to make as much money as possible then that's what you're going to do.
Yeah I know they're really cheap (at least the knockoffs) I even got two spare ones myself.
Actually, I usually use the battery until the phone dies off. I told you that just in case.
Also a battery's capacity is usually measured in milliampere-hour or mAh. Not voltage.
About CES, the big companies are trying very hard indeed, I'm sure thir R&D's are working their butts off. Behind closed doors.
So they can milk this cow for as long as possible.
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yeah i know about the mAh but voltage determines the cut off when the shut down happens.
also @vincom @lingowistico last thing lol i think....... I had a nother motive for getting this info, will this charger make my skyrocket charge faster?
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-2-4-...ndroid/dp/B0073FE1F0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I didn't know that about voltage. You learn something all the time, huh? :good:
I have no idea about that charger, I barely passed the electronics class.
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I didn't know that about voltage. You learn something all the time, huh? :good:
I have no idea about that charger, I barely passed the electronics class.
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what about any charger? I want one that is gonna fill my battery as fast as possible! Can't be waitin' 3+ hours to charge my phone. My current charger is rated at 5 volts .7 mAh. I NEED a faster charger in my life.
this question is for anyone not just you lol
drago10029 said:
what about any charger? I want one that is gonna fill my battery as fast as possible! Can't be waitin' 3+ hours to charge my phone. My current charger is rated at 5 volts .7 mAh. I NEED a faster charger in my life.
this question is for anyone not just you lol
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Don't know, I know that it charges faster when turned off.
drago10029 said:
yeah i know about the mAh but voltage determines the cut off when the shut down happens.
also @vincom @lingowistico last thing lol i think....... I had a nother motive for getting this info, will this charger make my skyrocket charge faster?
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-2-4-...ndroid/dp/B0073FE1F0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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That charger most likely will cause a wakelock. I've had similiar charges and they all caused wakelocks. Best bet....use the original charger the phone came with.
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EQ2192012 said:
That charger most likely will cause a wakelock. I've had similiar charges and they all caused wakelocks. Best bet....use the original charger the phone came with.
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Wakelock? Why is that?
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Wakelock? Why is that?
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Just speaking from expierience. I've had alot of similiar chargers..just all of them did cause wakelocks. I can't say this one will for sure...but i'd rather test a proven product than flip a coin. The original charger the Skyrocket comes with works good. A duel usb At&t branded also works good for me.
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Just speaking from expierience. I've had alot of similiar chargers..just all of them did cause wakelocks. I can't say this one will for sure...but i'd rather test a proven product than flip a coin. The original charger the Skyrocket comes with works good. A duel usb At&t branded also works good for me.
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thanks but the original charger charges super slow! if you read above it takes a really long time for me. also wakelock would be worth faster charging. plus I can remove those easy
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Thought I would start a battery thread just to see what everyone thinks. I have noticed the battery is 1230 mah and thats a little small for my taste. I have heard nothing bad about battery life, but thought I would start this thread to throw some options out there on where to buy hi-cap batteries. Also if anyone has experience with a site or certain make of battery, that is made for this phone POST IT UP. I haven't really been able to find anything.....
I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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They're not worth a dang from what I've read. Crap manufacturers label batteries as they'd like - good luck proving them wrong.
I'm looking out for a legitimate battery, not from ebay, that is over 1300mah. Will post if said battery is found.
I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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Looks like I may be purchasing a stock battery, and a car charger.
well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
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well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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I think you just pay them... it will convert US to pounds.
I ordered a pair of jeans from France this year and you paid as you would anything else... it just converts the euro into US and thats what it takes from your bank.
I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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^ That is one option I've used with good success. And the extrernal battery is just a USB connection so I can use it for lots of stuff. It recharges the internal battery at the same time, an added bonus.
I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
Do where can we buy the dhd batteries from?
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I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
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no they are not the same.
So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
man i need to get an extra battery
I ordered a spare from an AT&T corporate store today. The receipt lists it as 1400mah. I assume it's going to be the stock 1230 though. We shall see in a few days.
Link please?
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So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
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Your best bet would be mugen 1300mah battery. That's the one I am using and last 1-1.5hours more than stock.
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I just read the whole intire (every single freaking word) thread about official batterys in the accessory thread,and it delivered no answers. It seems as if the people in that thread would rather argue,than help the movement and find the best alternitive. Does anyone know of a battery for the inspire,that would deliver better battery life?
I have tried this aswell. Could not find answers ... being a heavy user , I did the next best thing. I Installed a ROM which gave me a good battery life. I am currently using Gingerbeast and I am pretty happy that it gets me through most of the day. This is 'my' solution until a decent battery with bigger capacity comes in.
I am sorry this is not the answer you were looking for... however , it may help someone who may want to go that route!
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I have tried this aswell. Could not find answers ... being a heavy user , I did the next best thing. I Installed a ROM which gave me a good battery life. I am currently using Gingerbeast and I am pretty happy that it gets me through most of the day. This is 'my' solution until a decent battery with bigger capacity comes in.
I am sorry this is not the answer you were looking for... however , it may help someone who may want to go that route!
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Yeah i def plan on rooting and flashing whatever sense rom there are,that was gonna be my next step after i receive the phone tomorrow. I know with my old cappy there was a rom that conerved battery and boosted my battery life by atleast 3 or 4 hours a day. Amazing what the devs can do,but me,im a VERY HEAVY user but im only using my phone from around 5pm until maybe 2am because of my work shcedule. I just hope a better battery comes out. My whole past week consisted of 2384720589 million google searches and reading through 84573809 million threads to see if i should get an atrix,or an inspire and i chose the inspire. After all the android phones ive had,i want this one to be something that makes me wanna stick with it for my 2 years. ehh,we'll see
If you guys want good battery. I have my wife's inspire running inspired saga rom using the 12.35..... radio and using juice defender and she avgs 1d 4hrs on one single charge with the stock battery. Just thought i would share that. Also it is 100% stable.
TaterTot85 said:
If you guys want good battery. I have my wife's inspire running inspired saga rom using the 12.35..... radio and using juice defender and she avgs 1d 4hrs on one single charge with the stock battery. Just thought i would share that. Also it is 100% stable.
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Yeah, I am using juice defender as well. Not a fan of the fact that it toggles my data on a schedule ... but hey... it sure helps.
Yeah , some replacement battery is sure to come along ! Right now, you are probably better off flashing the right rom and working with it a little bit. I am sure when a genuine/ good quality high capacity battery comes in.... we will surely see the "OMG...Inspire's new battery can power my house" threads
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Yeah , some replacement battery is sure to come along ! Right now, you are probably better off flashing the right rom and working with it a little bit. I am sure when a genuine/ good quality high capacity battery comes in.... we will surely see the "OMG...Inspire's new battery can power my house" threads
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The thing is, due to the design of the phone, there's not a lot of wiggle room to make a larger capacity battery.
A larger capacity battery has to be physically bigger in size. That works for phones that have the battery on the back side of the phone, because you can provide a modified battery cover to accommodate it.
The inspire, not so easy, as it slips inside the phone, from the side, so the only dimension that could be enlarged is the length.
A little more length *might* be possible, but it would be a tight squeeze, and probably wouldn't result in that much of an increase in capacity.
Better to try to focus on optimizing the phone with the existing battery, by way of roms and such, as mentioned, instead of holding your breath waiting for some dramatic advance in battery technology to appear that allows more juice to be stored in the same physical space.
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The thing is, due to the design of the phone, there's not a lot of wiggle room to make a larger capacity battery.
A larger capacity battery has to be physically bigger in size. That works for phones that have the battery on the back side of the phone, because you can provide a modified battery cover to accommodate it.
The inspire, not so easy, as it slips inside the phone, from the side, so the only dimension that could be enlarged is the length.
A little more length *might* be possible, but it would be a tight squeeze, and probably wouldn't result in that much of an increase in capacity.
Better to try to focus on optimizing the phone with the existing battery, by way of roms and such, as mentioned, instead of holding your breath waiting for some dramatic advance in battery technology to appear that allows more juice to be stored in the same physical space.
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is the evo's battery thicker or wider? i know the evo's wont work but i know it cant be too much bigger
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The only possible way to get a larger capacity battery would be very tricky. It would require a battery door that had power posts to contact the battery contacts, while maintaining connection of the required contact points on the battery door. Sounds simple enough, but trust me, the development and production costs of said battery would prolly far outweigh potential profit. As a result, I don't think we'll ever see one those type batteries. I suggest following the advice of the other members previous replies, as their insight is that of a Jedi Master. More like, we are Droidi, they are Droidi Masters. Lmao
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Why couldn't they just stick a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone, and have a wire with a little adapter that goes into the normal battery spot. Make a rubber case to go around it, and hot dang, ta-da you're done.
For me, I use an iSound 8000mAh battery that's about 2 pounds, and cost me all of $80. A bit steap, but being able to fully charge my phone a handful of times on the go makes it worth it to me.
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Why couldn't they just stick a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone, and have a wire with a little adapter that goes into the normal battery spot. Make a rubber case to go around it, and hot dang, ta-da you're done.
For me, I use an iSound 8000mAh battery that's about 2 pounds, and cost me all of $80. A bit steap, but being able to fully charge my phone a handful of times on the go makes it worth it to me.
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Sheesh, you use your phone *that* much? I mean, how about a couple more stock batteries and an external charging dock?
Two pounds is a bit more than most people want to lug around.
The type of setup you suggest sounds like the rigs we used to use to power our portable DAT recorders to tape Grateful Dead shows.
Whatever floats yer boat, but that starts to remove the portability of the device.
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Hooray for deadheads. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing these threads pop up and stick on the first page of the forums in the DHD and Inspire sections. If you have seen how the battery goes in there, there is no way to stick a new one in there without some serious R&D. There have been a number of efforts on xda attempting to dispel the myths that state a battery that's identical in physical volume to the stock battery can hold any more juice. That's a boldfaced lie until something better and more cost-effective than Li-Po comes along. Even the giant batteries that say "3500 mah" usually have 2,xxx mah. I used to not care about the latter because I could make my Wizard, Hermes, Kaiser, and Rhodium last for two or three days on a charge for $10 on ebay. I testmed my "2800 mah" batteries and they were anywhere between 1940 and 2300 mAH, but it was still worth it to me until I got my Rhodium and figured out HTC made an official 2,150 mah battery and door that I tested and sent to xda member "Dougie" to test with a more accurate method than mine and it tested at exactly 2,150 mAH. Stock HTC batteries usually test around 95% of their rated capacity.
I don't want to write a 5 paragraph essay on the chemistry of Li-Po batteries, so please take it from a battery life freak that a larger battery in this phone is impossible. The best they'll be able to do is things like the iPhone's Mophie Juice Pack. My solution is that of the previous poster in that I bought an 8,800 mAH battery that weighs a couple of pounds that I take with me when I go camping for a week or two and use the phone for satnav with satellite imagery. It takes a while to load on GPRS, but who cares when I've got 10,000 mAH of juice? For outdoor sessions greater than 14 days I have a few photovoltaic panels and a waterproof project box to get it to 5V. It'll charge the big battery in about 4 days of direct sunlight as long as I don't uberkill the battery and have to 'shock' it back to life.
Yet another thread on battery. Sigh.
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Scott_S said:
Sheesh, you use your phone *that* much? I mean, how about a couple more stock batteries and an external charging dock?
Two pounds is a bit more than most people want to lug around.
The type of setup you suggest sounds like the rigs we used to use to power our portable DAT recorders to tape Grateful Dead shows.
Whatever floats yer boat, but that starts to remove the portability of the device.
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I've seen that type of setup work on some equipment where I work too. Except professionally done so that its housed right and doubled nicely as protection for the devices.
As for the external battery, it isn't much in weight for me, but I tend to go everywhere with some kinda backpack on, or a laptop bag, so to me its just there. Plus when I'm at work, all the outlets are in areas that I'd have to either duck under my desk to mess with my phone, or buy longer USB cables. I just go with the battery, more so since I can use it when out of the office and there isn't any outlets around. Same with like on a plane, at an airport, etc where outlets are crowded or not as enjoyable to work with. Plus the case I have the phone in requires I use a knife to get the stupid thing open, which means changing batteries is ten times the work as plugging in a USB cable.
if you think about it. a few years ago everyone probally thought it was "impossible" to squeeze so much into a phone and make them as thin as they are today. but as technology evolved the manafactuers have put alot into the thinnest phones on the market. so i believe that within time they will make a battery for us thats the same size and has more mAH. just my opinion,others may argue but i mean,when dulecore proccessers came out im sure no one thought we would never see a phone with all that squeezed into a cell phone. never doubt the possibilities
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if you think about it. a few years ago everyone probally thought it was "impossible" to squeeze so much into a phone and make them as thin as they are today. but as technology evolved the manafactuers have put alot into the thinnest phones on the market. so i believe that within time they will make a battery for us thats the same size and has more mAH. just my opinion,others may argue but i mean,when dulecore proccessers came out im sure no one thought we would never see a phone with all that squeezed into a cell phone. never doubt the possibilities
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Oh I have no doubt the technology will improve, more juice in a smaller space, kinda like hard drives... Somehow they always manage to get more into the same space.
Just not in time to be an alternative after-market battery solution for this particular phone.
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i read through the whole entire other battery thread,and it did not answer my question. it was filled with arguing abd people trying to prove there "intelligence". i just wanted a "no,no decent after market battery yet" or and kick towards the rite step which i recieved. no need to post in the thread no more with the complaining over "another battery thread". xda is built on the threads and each user receiving help so that maybe they can help someone else out. damn
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i read through the whole entire other battery thread,and it did not answer my question. it was filled with arguing abd people trying to prove there "intelligence". i just wanted a "no,no decent after market battery yet" or and kick towards the rite step which i recieved. no need to post in the thread no more with the complaining over "another battery thread". xda is built on the threads and each user receiving help so that maybe they can help someone else out. damn
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Truely........yer answer was available in every battery thread. Whybdid you think this thread would be less then those? Same thread type, same answers........
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Truely........yer answer was available in every battery thread. Whybdid you think this thread would be less then those? Same thread type, same answers........
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No,people gave bad reviews of battery and argued the fact if there will be a better battery. My question was has anyone found one that boosted it at all. Any,whatsoever. I didn't post in that thread because I didn't want one of those rude asses to jump down my throat. So as I have the right,I started my own thread.
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So then to answer your question. I have not read, heard or seen a battery that will do any better than the original. Best bet at this point in time is to by a spare or carry a charger with you.
I have experience much better battery life with custom ROMs vs the stock ROM.
I looked all over eBay and all I see are cases for the international HOX and I really want to be able to have one that works for our phone. I remember mugen mentioning that they would have one out already, but they said that over a month ago. Are companies not making it because HTC's sales in the recent quarter was extremely low compared to the projected numbers? If anybody has found one please let me know I love everything about this phone but I hate lugging around a charger, and I don't always have access or the time to plug it in.
PS I don't want to hear anybody come in and say they get 4 hours of screen time blah blah blah on whatever mods they do. That's great, but 4 hours of screen time equals about 6 hours of total usage which is only half the day for me. I'm a college student and I do a lot on my phone whether it be in class taking notes, or on conference calls.
And I'm not complaining about the phone, just lack of this particular accessory. I believe this is a damn near perfect phone I just want the juice to make it even more perfect!
There's no battery cases that are either good or work for the S4 variant as the pins are placed differently.
There are however external battery packs that are relatively small and provide a punch. Had one for the Sammy Vibrant and was super easy to hide in back pack, as you are a college student.
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There's no battery cases that are either good or work for the S4 variant as the pins are placed differently.
There are however external battery packs that are relatively small and provide a punch. Had one for the Sammy Vibrant and was super easy to hide in back pack, as you are a college student.
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Yeah, I ordered one of these in preparation for Comic Con:
http://www.amazon.com/10000mAh-External-Battery-Sensation-Motorola/dp/B005NGKR54
Pretty happy with it so far, and the price is definitely right.
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Yeah, I ordered one of these in preparation for Comic Con:
http://www.amazon.com/10000mAh-External-Battery-Sensation-Motorola/dp/B005NGKR54
Pretty happy with it so far, and the price is definitely right.
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how many charges for your phone can you get off it? I'm curious if you've tested that yet
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how many charges for your phone can you get off it? I'm curious if you've tested that yet
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+1 I want something that can at least double my battery life. That would be great.
EDIT: they reviews on this look solid! I would like to know how many full charges it would do on our phones.
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how many charges for your phone can you get off it? I'm curious if you've tested that yet
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Haven't fully tested, but judging by the MaH, I would expect to be able to charge it two or three times over at least.
Actually judging by the mah I'd say it would charge it around 4 times.
10,000/1,800 is a little more than 5 so its safe to assume 4 times over.
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Actually judging by the mah I'd say it would charge it around 4 times.
10,000/1,800 is a little more than 5 so its safe to assume 4 times over.
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This is all assuming that the phone uses 0 power while it's on and charging
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This is all assuming that the phone uses 0 power while it's on and charging
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These external chargers actually lose quite a bit of power in translation... I think I remember reading it's a 35% loss but don't remember exactly, so that 10000 mah is really more like 6500 for the phone (somewhere along those lines, anyways).
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These external chargers actually lose quite a bit of power in translation... I think I remember reading it's a 35% loss but don't remember exactly, so that 10000 mah is really more like 6500 for the phone (somewhere along those lines, anyways).
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Do you happen to know if that 35% is per use or overall?
Any updates on this front? Went to chicago recently and the daily murdering of my battery life had me itching for a good charger case!
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battery case
I really hope a better looking one comes out the options are either cheap looking or incompatible from the moved pins
Hey one and all,
Now I know there are already a few threads with some external battery chargers but a few are quite outdated and it's quite a pain looking through them all so I've been a little lazy and started this new thread.
Basically im currently using the ZeroLemon 7500 extended battery, which with my heavy usage lasts 2 days which is fine by me. I am now starting to get bored with my mini brick and would like to downsize to a 3000mAh battery so as to be able to use stock sized cases, but invest in a high capacity external battery charger. Something in the range of 12000mAh or thereabouts.
Ive searched amazon and google and seen countless brands and sizes and some with extra functions like wifi file transfer / wifi hotspot / sdcard reader etc. My main interest is for the charging, optional extras are just a bonus. Ive had my fair share of fakes from china / hong kong which although super cheap do tend to lack staying power.
I want something that will keep its charge, that has a high capacity to enable me to charge a 3000mAh battery 3-4 or more times and that i can charge fully overnight between 12-16 hours.
Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated, I dont want speculation on products that are out there as i have searched loads and read reviews on what i can. I would just like to hear from people who have similar wants and needs to myself that have used certain products and can give any recommendations.
Muchos Gracias in advance :good:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/meri...table-charger-us-22-99-free-shipping-1479493/
There are no higher capacity stock sized batteries, its usually fake or over rated. If it exists, Samsung should have produced it already. Better get a power bank to extend your usage.
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There are no higher capacity stock sized batteries, its usually fake or over rated. If it exists, Samsung should have produced it already. Better get a power bank to extend your usage.
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Appreciate the input mate .... But ... Thread title ... External battery charger .... plus I'd already stated I'm using g a 7500 zerolemon extended battery already. Cheers.
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/meri...table-charger-us-22-99-free-shipping-1479493/
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Looks pretty good. I worry about the prixe being too low sometimes but lots of good reviews it seems. I'll give it a look
Don't worry about price per se. I have this and I charges my S4 three times to full. Apparently uses Samsung batteries.
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Don't worry about price per se. I have this and I charges my S4 three times to full. Apparently uses Samsung batteries.
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That's pretty good. Only need it to give a few charges anyway. Does it hold charge properly too? So say if you didn't use it for a week and then used it to charge your phone, does it still have the same charge left on it?
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That's pretty good. Only need it to give a few charges anyway. Does it hold charge properly too? So say if you didn't use it for a week and then used it to charge your phone, does it still have the same charge left on it?
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Mine stays charged for WEEKS at a time.
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Mine stays charged for WEEKS at a time.
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Im gonna order one its a good price and sounds good so may as well give it a go. Will report back when it comes thanks mate.
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Appreciate the input mate .... But ... Thread title ... External battery charger .... plus I'd already stated I'm using g a 7500 zerolemon extended battery already. Cheers.
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You mistitled the thread. It's external battery pack, power pack, etc. Not charger. Battery packs do charge the phone but "external battery charger" mostly refers to those wall-chargers on which you put the battery to charge directly out of the phone.
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You mistitled the thread. It's external battery pack, power pack, etc. Not charger. Battery packs do charge the phone but "external battery charger" mostly refers to those wall-chargers on which you put the battery to charge directly out of the phone.
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Again ... I appreciate your input and willingness to make a point however if you had read what the guy put, regardless of my thread title, he was talking about extended stock size batteries, whereas the title is still pretty accurate for what I want .... An "external" pack to "charge" the "battery". And secondly the title I feel is pretty relevant, but even if it wasn't all you need to do is read my post to understand exactly what i wanted.
Please don't feel the need to take time out of your day to say I did something wrong when in fact you have done exactly the same as the first guy and countless other people by just not reading.
Thank you.
P.s. external battery charger as a description does not restrict itself to just wall chargers at all. External could be referring to a battery charger that can be taken outside its usual confines of somewhere like a house or building and used externally / outside where there is no access to a socket.
Thanks again.
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Again ... I appreciate your input and willingness to make a point however if you had read what the guy put, regardless of my thread title, he was talking about extended stock size batteries, whereas the title is still pretty accurate for what I want .... An "external" pack to "charge" the "battery". And secondly the title I feel is pretty relevant, but even if it wasn't all you need to do is read my post to understand exactly what i wanted.
Please don't feel the need to take time out of your day to say I did something wrong when in fact you have done exactly the same as the first guy and countless other people by just not reading.
Thank you.
P.s. external battery charger as a description does not restrict itself to just wall chargers at all. External could be referring to a battery charger that can be taken outside its usual confines of somewhere like a house or building and used externally / outside where there is no access to a socket.
Thanks again.
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lol.. all chargers are external. nuff said.
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lol.. all chargers are external. nuff said.
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God loves a tryer.
Perhaps try reading dude it'll give you an advantage over ignorance.
Lol nuff said indeed.
Anyway back on topic (don't post in a thread unless you have something useful to say )... I've ordered one and it should be arriving on Monday so I will let you know how it goes
I have a 10000 mAh EasyAcc. Purchased from Amazon, 28 euros.
It is quite slim (similar size as S4, double the thickness) and not very heavy.
I have already used it a couple of times and I am very happy with it. I can charge 2 phones at once, and the charging seems similar like from a normal power cord (got from 10 to 50 in about 30mins).
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I have a 10000 mAh EasyAcc. Purchased from Amazon, 28 euros.
It is quite slim (similar size as S4, double the thickness) and not very heavy.
I have already used it a couple of times and I am very happy with it. I can charge 2 phones at once, and the charging seems similar like from a normal power cord (got from 10 to 50 in about 30mins).
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That's cool. How many time could you charge your s4 with it?
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That's cool. How many time could you charge your s4 with it?
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Four times.
But I am usually using in different combinations... so hard to say. But then I did the test it charged the S4 four times.
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Four times.
But I am usually using in different combinations... so hard to say. But then I did the test it charged the S4 four times.
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Cool that's plenty. Its just gonna be something I keep in my car as I'm out and about a lot so on my way to work or back I can give it a boost up. Cheers dude.
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Cool that's plenty. Its just gonna be something I keep in my car as I'm out and about a lot so on my way to work or back I can give it a boost up. Cheers dude.
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To be honest, power bank is pretty handy at times but please note that it takes time to charge your phone thus you need to carry your phone with the powerbank on the move which will be even heavier than your zerolemon battery alone. :good:
I've been using the PowerGen 9000mAh since August last year. It is a good size to carry in your pocket.
It has dual USB outputs plus an attached Micro USB cable that shares the 2 amp output. I like the dual output because I can charge it fast with a 2 amp port that will charge my phone a good 60% in an hour or so, or leave it on the .6 amp port over night and only have the battery pack drop 25%, or charge 2 or even 3 devices at the same time. I really like that it has an attached cable.
I can get a good 3 full charges of my S4 from it.
I mainly use it when traveling. If I am not going to be using it for a while, I discharge it to about 50% and it will stay there for months at a time. This is good practice for any LiPo battery not being used. They basically last forever at that charge level.
I also carry a spare OEM battery with me all the time, which is why I don't carry the battery pack often.
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Appreciate the input mate .... But ... Thread title ... External battery charger .... plus I'd already stated I'm using g a 7500 zerolemon extended battery already. Cheers.
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Ah, sorry about that. I was thinking about the internal battery.
Anyways, I'm using a Yoobao 7800MAh Power Bank. Its quite well known in the Asia region (like in the PH), can charge my S4 2-3 times, and quite handy (not that heavy).
Alright. Just like what happens with many smartphones, third party sources have started releasing batteries with a little more juice than the Original LG Batteries of 2800mAh. I have to admit it, i was kind of counting on it because it happens a lot of time. But how reliable could they be? Would NFC work with them? Will it make our phone explode? From 2800mAh to 3250mAh is 450 more juice to drain. Has someone tested it? I've posted the link and a couple of pictures.
Links:
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Yifa...qid=1466065770&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+g5+3200+mah
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Extende...801116?hash=item281a5a0d5c:g:hsUAAOSwjXRXX5q7
If you have tried any similar please share. I'm sure many people will be interested to know :good:
Good luck with that company 1 star and arrives mid to late July from China. No thanks original LG battery and charger 35$ get it in a couple days
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I just recieved two of them from Ebay. Charged one in the charging cradle, took a little longer than the stock battery. Installed it in the phone last night and will report on my findings. Everything seems fine so far.
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I just recieved two of them from Ebay. Charged one in the charging cradle, took a little longer than the stock battery. Installed it in the phone last night and will report on my findings. Everything seems fine so far.
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Can you please also try the NFC feature if you have another phone with NFC capability? And also, whether the SOT improves or if it remains the same. and finally, in comparison to the other battery, how long does the phone last , based on your average usage (say: wifi on/off, usual brightness or auto brightness, etc. ) Let us know. Thanks
On my Thread I found one that has 3600mah found at AliExpress
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On my Thread I found one that has 3600mah found at AliExpress
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did you buy it? How was it? but there is something odd with that one. They sell 5 pcs for 30 dollars? there is something off
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did you buy it? How was it? but there is something odd with that one. They sell 5 pcs for 30 dollars? there is something off
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I have the G4 and I'm sure you can find one for just 1 pcs
Here's one from brand TQTHL which I would trust as I have 2 for my G4 and both work great
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Can you please also try the NFC feature if you have another phone with NFC capability? And also, whether the SOT improves or if it remains the same. and finally, in comparison to the other battery, how long does the phone last , based on your average usage (say: wifi on/off, usual brightness or auto brightness, etc. ) Let us know. Thanks
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I have tested for two day and although I haven't gotten any numbers to prove it...the battery works great. It does last longer with the same usage...but I wouldn't say that the difference is huge but it does have a little more endurance. I'd say that if you are looking for an extra battery...this is not a bad choice especially just to keep as a spare. Everything works fine as well.
Also...it may take a few cycles to get the battery calibrated...my first discharge I was disappointed because it dad extremely fast but after letting it run down and charging it a few times it seems to last a little longer than stock. I'll leave the battery in for a while and if I get time to collect screen on before I charge it I will.
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I have tested for two day and although I haven't gotten any numbers to prove it...the battery works great. It does last longer with the same usage...but I wouldn't say that the difference is huge but it does have a little more endurance. I'd say that if you are looking for an extra battery...this is not a bad choice especially just to keep as a spare. Everything works fine as well.
Also...it may take a few cycles to get the battery calibrated...my first discharge I was disappointed because it dad extremely fast but after letting it run down and charging it a few times it seems to last a little longer than stock. I'll leave the battery in for a while and if I get time to collect screen on before I charge it I will.
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I think one would see a real difference if it had 900mah ane up more than usual. I was kind of expecting for that though. Hahaha. But i have the feeling they will release an eveb bigger one. Something like 4000mAh+ but you have provided us with great detail. Thank you. If you have the SOT in the future feel free to provide if
I doubt we will see anything much larger in the same size. Batteries have limited capacity/cm3, and LG, being one of the best and largest battery manufacturer, maxed out on that value. The problem here is the physical size of the battery cell...
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I doubt we will see anything much larger in the same size. Batteries have limited capacity/cm3, and LG, being one of the best and largest battery manufacturer, maxed out on that value. The problem here is the physical size of the battery cell...
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Actually Zerolemon emailed me and said they are working on a battery for the G5 as we speak. They can be miracle workers lol
BR7fan said:
Actually Zerolemon emailed me and said they are working on a battery for the G5 as we speak. They can be miracle workers lol
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They managed to do that by replacing the back cover with their own "case", including an extra-size cell. The G5's different battery removal mechanics make it a lot less viable option, especially adding the bottom module (which houses not just the USB connector, but speakers, microphone, and some antennas) as a cost.
My original comment was directed at the allegedly 3200/3250mAh cells popping up for 5-10$ a piece. There's a reason why official LG cells are 25$, and these after-market ones cost less than half of that. Sure, LG needs to cover the development costs, but I'm pretty sure the after-market ones are so cheap mainly because of corner cutting. And that comes with extended hazard. But if you feel like ruining your 600$+ phone because you went cheap and paid 10$ instead of 25$ for a battery... It's your call.
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They managed to do that by replacing the back cover with their own "case", including an extra-size cell. The G5's different battery removal mechanics make it a lot less viable option, especially adding the bottom module (which houses not just the USB connector, but speakers, microphone, and some antennas) as a cost.
My original comment was directed at the allegedly 3200/3250mAh cells popping up for 5-10$ a piece. There's a reason why official LG cells are 25$, and these after-market ones cost less than half of that. Sure, LG needs to cover the development costs, but I'm pretty sure the after-market ones are so cheap mainly because of corner cutting. And that comes with extended hazard. But if you feel like ruining your 600$+ phone because you went cheap and paid 10$ instead of 25$ for a battery... It's your call.
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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I have been following the forum site for lg g5 modules development and untill now no one has has stepped up with the idea (no one that would have the knowledge to start building a module for the g5 at least)
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It's just a matter of time and I think lg should be the one to do.
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Yeah I could see someone make a module that has a slim but like a little bit more mah
Check out this thread I did for the Sensation (ages ago). It's not relevant to this phone, other than to say that you'll recognize some of the labels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753726
The TLDR: Actual mAh was was tested reliably (external discharge, outside of the phone) and batteries with the same label style as the two linked in the OP actually had roughly 30% and 50% of their stated capacity, and much less than stock.
I've got a G5 coming this week. I wouldn't be against doing another thread like the one I did in 2012 on the Sensation, if there's demand.
I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
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The mixed reviews are in part my fault. I'm one of the reviewers with that battery and for some reason Amazon will not post my updated review, I've tried 3 different occasions to post follow ups but they won't post.
What I learned with that battery is it works, only it does give me the invalid battery message and the phone shuts off but only if I reboot the phone at 100% battery life, upon booting the phone reports 50% charge and shuts off. You have to restart it a couple times until it's used a percentage or 2, then it boots fine. I emailed the seller about it and they responded with the cells are tested and they only use quality parts, they sent me another battery but that one does the same as the original. With the issue with the note 7 and other phones/chargers I stopped using the battery. It might be perfectly safe but I can't determine that and the risk is not one I am willing to wait and see. Here's a link to another topic here on XDA where I responded about this battery.
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I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So, after the first full charge and discharge to 11%, I'm getting very good times better than stock. This will probably increase with a few more charging cycles. My opinion is this battery is definitely more mA. I will review more when later.