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nandroid backup

Hey guys, quick question. Does the nandroid backup, backup your apps as well? If not, what does it backup?

yes it backs everything up

thorracing1 said:
yes it backs everything up
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thats good to know.. would hate to have to install all those apps again

uggghhhh my roomie just flashed to modacos rom on my phone withouT doing a nandroid backup.....
will the backup from someone elses phone get me back to stock?
sorry for the noobish question

phelony said:
uggghhhh my roomie just flashed to modacos rom on my phone withouT doing a nandroid backup.....
will the backup from someone elses phone get me back to stock?
sorry for the noobish question
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You can always flash the stock Sprint RUU but then you will have to root again, but it will bring your phone to exactly like the day you took it out of the box.

Noob here too. I did a Nandroid backup before I flashed MoDaCo's rom and after. If I wanted to go back to the Way it was before I rom'ed it would I just flash the first backup? Also, where do you find the Sprint RUU?

ELIMINATED said:
Noob here too. I did a Nandroid backup before I flashed MoDaCo's rom and after. If I wanted to go back to the Way it was before I rom'ed it would I just flash the first backup? Also, where do you find the Sprint RUU?
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yes, to go back to before you had the rom, you would restore the nandroid backup you did before you rom'ed

I had 2 Nandroid backups from different dates and when I went to restore my latest one it kept grabbing the older one, maybe because it was first in the list. I deleted the older one and it restored the correct one. Anybody else experience this or am I just doing something wrong?

watzone69 said:
I had 2 Nandroid backups from different dates and when I went to restore my latest one it kept grabbing the older one, maybe because it was first in the list. I deleted the older one and it restored the correct one. Anybody else experience this or am I just doing something wrong?
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Just take the one you don't want and copy it to your laptop or desktop.

goku14238 said:
Just take the one you don't want and copy it to your laptop or desktop.
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Yes, I'll do that in the future.
I thought that nandroid restore would automatically use the folder with the latest date but obviously not. Just a heads up to others.

This is a little off topic, but can you restore a nandroid backup on a different phone?
I've got some dust under the screen and i'm going to try and get the phone replaced (only been 2 weeks) and it would be nice if i could just restore from a nandroid backup of the old phone.

It backs up your apps if you are not running AppsToSD.
Nandroid does NOT back up anything at all off the SD card, including the EXT2 partition where your apps are located using AppsToSD.

cool, good to know, I don't run apps to sd anyone so i think im good there

[Q] Backup / Nandroid rom

Hello All,
I just bought an Lg P999 from vidéotron here in montreal. I would like to try other rom (cyanogen etc...) But I can't find any "videotron stock firmware" If I want to go back to stock.
Can I create a backup of my current rom and make the phone exactly as is right now ? Or maybe there is already a stock firmware available somewhere i'm not aware of.
Thanks for your help

demonte21 said:
Hello All,
I just bought an Lg P999 from vidéotron here in montreal. I would like to try other rom (cyanogen etc...) But I can't find any "videotron stock firmware" If I want to go back to stock.
Can I create a backup of my current rom and make the phone exactly as is right now ? Or maybe there is already a stock firmware available somewhere i'm not aware of.
Thanks for your help
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Once you root and install cwm recovery then yes you can make a backup that is an exact copy of the way your phone is setup at the time of the backup.

+1. Its very important to make a stock backup so you always have something to fall back on.
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What are the advantages of root without custom rom

Hi
just a short question.. what are the advantages of having a rooted phone if one doesn't want to install a custom rom?
- Can I remove all the crap-ware that was delivered with the phone? e.g. Navigation
- Can I still get the HTC-OTA Updates?
- Can I use the market as usual?
Thanks & Cheers
Michael

Yes, you can remove bloat ware and still use market, but not sure about ota updates
You'll also be able to perform full nandroid backups of your device
With extra addition of a new kernel you'll be able to over clock cpu.
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I don't think you can use OTA's. but all you would have to do is unroot, update and reroot
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perfect - thanks for the information. I rooted it.. works perfectly.. finally "htc locations" is gone!!

the qestion i ask myself here: why wouldnt you want to flash a custom rom, when having the ability to do so?
im currently running lbc mod and im very happy with it
plus it seems to me that the roms that are out now are just the beginning!

why would I change? stock rom does what I need it to do.. if I find a reason I can still change...

chaelli said:
why would I change? stock rom does what I need it to do.. if I find a reason I can still change...
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You should at least try a custom ROM before you decide to stay on shipped stock, you can always re-stock by running an RUU.
You'll find that a good custom, I personally like LBC MOD is simply a faster, improved, better looking version of stock with less bugs and added functionality.
Otherwise its like buying a car and never using the top gear.

chaelli said:
Hi
just a short question.. what are the advantages of having a rooted phone if one doesn't want to install a custom rom?
- Can I remove all the crap-ware that was delivered with the phone? e.g. Navigation
- Can I still get the HTC-OTA Updates?
- Can I use the market as usual?
Thanks & Cheers
Michael
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YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET OTA!!!!!! STEP WAWY FROM OTA!!!!!!! DO NOT download OTA's if you have acustom rom!!!!!!! CLEAR ???????!!!!!!
What people don't seem to realise sometimes is that there is a difference between S-off and rooting. With the old Desire it was root first then S-off, which was a safer environment for a noob or the perpetually impetuously stupid. Root gives you Administrator access, like on a PC rather than a guest account, but S-off allows total control over system and data partitions for instance and a whole shed full of stuff that even some dev's don't regularly need. Be careful with S-off!
STEP AWAY FROM THE OTA!

@infernalByte: this is true for custom roms.. but no for s-off & root - right?
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?

chaelli said:
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?
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If you install a custom you shouldn't apply OTA updates. The person who created the custom ROM in the first place will often incorporate the OTA updates within the next release of their ROM.
No RUU, is a ROM Update Utility which is a program that you run on your PC to install a ROM. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
Although to be able to try a custom you must first use the AlphaRexv software to make your phone S-OFF.
If you then wish to take a backup of your stock you will additionally need to install a recovery like clock work mod (CWM) or the EXT4 one as you listed above. You will also need to use the ginger break software to get root on your phone before you can take a full useful backup (a Nandroid backup).
Yes after installing custom you would need to install all applications.
I suggest that you use the appbrain site and the application to manage your market applications..its assists re-installs.
I also would suggest that you don't rush into any of this.....you should read around the forum for a few more days until you are perfectly happy with what you are doing, ask more questions if needed.

chaelli said:
@infernalByte: this is true for custom roms.. but no for s-off & root - right?
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?
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The HTC OTA is not expecting you to be rooted. STEP AWAY FROM THE OTA!
An RUU is a HTC's Routine User Utility and they are what HTC's techies use to fix phones, RUU's are easy to administer but it will wipe EVERYTHING of your phone, data, your rom, your Hboot, some of them will even change your radio. EVERYTHING. Use an RUU and you will no longer be rooted or S-off.

Damn, beaten to it!!

thank you two for the additional information.. so RUU is a last resort.. usually I could use the backup I created with ext4.
I'm going to read some more about the different roms and decide if I want to try one...

chaelli said:
thank you two for the additional information.. so RUU is a last resort.. usually I could use the backup I created with ext4.
I'm going to read some more about the different roms and decide if I want to try one...
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Your welcome.
As for flashing roms; you may as well try one. At the moment all roms bar one that I can find use Sense, so all shouldn't look that different from HTC stock. Miui is the exception, it is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and looks radically different from what your used too.
Just do a Nandroid back up, then you can always wipe and restore.

RUU=ROM Upgrade Utility. It's just a way of flashing stock ROM to phone via usb connection with pc.
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Last stupid question (hopefully : nandroid backup is what I do in the restore menu when I choose "backup"
And a follow up.. sd-card contents are not backuped and also not overwritten when installing custom roms? But I still need to reinstall the apps on there?
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chaelli said:
Last stupid question (hopefully : nandroid backup is what I do in the restore menu when I choose "backup"
And a follow up.. sd-card contents are not backuped and also not overwritten when installing custom roms? But I still need to reinstall the apps on there?
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yes sd card contents are not backed up
& you need to reinstall the apps from your sd card,the apps from the old rom are replaced with the apps from the new rom

You can do 1 and 3, I don't think you can do 2 if you remove the udpate file from the ROM.

After rooting I still receive OTA updates (Arabic support)
Will there be any effect if I install it?
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Help a newbie?

Hi Guys,
Apologies if the following seems easy but I'm new to the rooting scene. Had an iPhone for a while and jailbroke on several occasions but never rooted an android before.
I have a desire S which I would like to root. Here's my plan of action.
1)S-off using alpharevx
2)Download and run ginger break to get root
3)download and install the free application rom manager from android market to flash CWM
5) Use rom manager to perform first full (Nandroid) backup
6) Wipe as per instructions for LBC Mod
7) Flash with LBC Mod
I attained that information on another thread. Here's my questions/concerns:
1. What is CWM? What does it do? Is it the same as ext4?
2. What is the Nandroid backup for? Where does it backup to?
3. Is the LBC Mod any good? Any other recommendations?
4. Will my SD card be wiped during this?
5. Is any of this flashing my radio? What does it mean to flash the radio? Do I need to do it?
6. Any way to backup apps during this? all my contacts and calendars are synced with google so not concerned about those.
I appreciate any and all help If I'm feeling confident enough I'm going to give this a go when I get home from work.

to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...

In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Eastnorth said:
to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...
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Good answer mate, nice & succinct
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ben_pyett said:
In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Thanks for the help - feeling a bit more confident about this now

so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......

steste01 said:
so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......
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did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...

Adidas108 said:
did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...
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Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?

xIntenso said:
Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?
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That's exactly what happened to me but still managed superuser.
Also when I tried to use RomManager it wouldn't work with EXT4, I had to flash CWM instead.

Im rooted now and running LBC custom ROM but I cant download anything from the marketplace - I get a download was unsuccessful errors.
Anyone know how to fix this? Ive tried fixing permissions, signing into goggle talk, stopping the market process but nothing is working.

You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
*Another newbie here *
Regards,

solojuve1897 said:
What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
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Seems too buggy to me. Just look at the bugtracker.

dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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isnt that the one that doesnt play video?

right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.

steste01 said:
right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.
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Just flash a stock rom

neomis said:
Just flash a stock rom
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So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?

steste01 said:
isnt that the one that doesnt play video?
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Solved in v1.2
Only problems are:
-Bluetooth not working
-battery usage
Since the rom is only a few days old I expect these will be solved pretty soon.
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steste01 said:
So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?
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Why dont you just restore your backup? You did create a backup first as instructed, right?
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[SOLVED] System Software Update is Corrupted

I have been waiting for a while to get the OTA update to ICS on my Sensation XE and finally got it today in the UK. When i come to download and install the update it will download fine but as soon as its finished it says "The downloaded system software update is corrupted" and the only options are to download again or do nothing and stick with gingerbread - i don't really want to do either of those. I have tried to download the update about 20 times now with the same result!
I have found something on another forum who said a factory reset is the only cure for this but as i am not rooted or anything like that I cant properly backup my apps using titanium backup so i will lose all my progress in my games and stuff so I really don't want to do this unless I absolutely have no other choice.
I was wondering if anyone else on here has had this problem and found a way around it without doing a hard reset. I have already taken the battery out and left it for a while but that did nothing either.
Thanks in advance!

If u can't backup coz u r not rooted - move sensitive apps to SD (then ur personal data like saves in games is moved to sd), and then use "Apps Backup & Restore" app to backup all apk's from installed apps to sd. Then, backup ur SMS using system core feature from MEssages > Menu > BAck-up messages
That should be enough for you. But in my opinion you should do CLEAR install, and again after ICS update wipe to factory settings, because without this - phone is useless, believe me.
I hope my english is understandable

hexen88 said:
If u can't backup coz u r not rooted - move sensitive apps to SD (then ur personal data like saves in games is moved to sd), and then use "Apps Backup & Restore" app to backup all apk's from installed apps to sd. Then, backup ur SMS using system core feature from MEssages > Menu > BAck-up messages
That should be enough for you. But in my opinion you should do CLEAR install, and again after ICS update wipe to factory settings, because without this - phone is useless, believe me.
I hope my english is understandable
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Thanks for the reply!
I have already done the SMS backup but not the app back up. I was wondering if the app you suggested to back up apps re links the apps back to the market once they have been restored like titanium backup does it?
I was also hoping someone could tell me if they have had to do a factory reset to solve the problem because I don't want to do a reset to find it hasn't solved the problem.
Thanks

Get the ICS RUU from the shipped roms thread and flash that. OK, you lose your data but at least it's a 100% fresh install
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how to do the same here?
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EddyOS said:
Get the ICS RUU from the shipped roms thread and flash that. OK, you lose your data but at least it's a 100% fresh install
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Cheers eddy.
For doing this do I need to be s off and root with a custom recovery or is flashing a ruu different so I just have to put it somewhere and trick the phone into flashing it?
I think I'll do this method if doing a factory reset doesn't work as I'll be doing a fresh install anyway.

As Far As I know, to RUU you won't have to have S-OFF and Custom Recovery. Because if you installed Custom Recovery it will replace with the default HTC Recovery.
If you planned to have S-OFF later I would you recommend you to do it before upgrade, because I think right now no body have release out on how to get S-OFF on HTC's ICS yet.
Have you try to used different Micro SDCard before try to download the upgrade.

If you have a stock XE then the XE RUU is fine without S-OFF. Here's the link:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3aa...00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_251961_signed.exe
As said above, S-OFF whilst still on 2.3 as you can't S-OFF with the new 1.27 HBOOT YET (it's coming soon, though). Then flash the RUU and you keep S-OFF

XaQi 101 said:
As Far As I know, to RUU you won't have to have S-OFF and Custom Recovery. Because if you installed Custom Recovery it will replace with the default HTC Recovery.
If you planned to have S-OFF later I would you recommend you to do it before upgrade, because I think right now no body have release out on how to get S-OFF on HTC's ICS yet.
Have you try to used different Micro SDCard before try to download the upgrade.
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You f#%king beauty xaqi!!! Another sd card worked. If I could hug you I would!!! I really wasn't wanting to flash anything or do anything extra to it. So I'm presuming if I was to format my sd card that would work as well...
Thank you everyone for your help! ICS W00P

Fulwood Sedge said:
You f#%king beauty xaqi!!! Another sd card worked. If I could hug you I would!!! I really wasn't wanting to flash anything or do anything extra to it. So I'm presuming if I was to format my sd card that would work as well...
Thank you everyone for your help! ICS W00P
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Not to revive an old thread, but I just wanted to add that using a new sd card worked for me, too.