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What are the advantages of root without custom rom

Hi
just a short question.. what are the advantages of having a rooted phone if one doesn't want to install a custom rom?
- Can I remove all the crap-ware that was delivered with the phone? e.g. Navigation
- Can I still get the HTC-OTA Updates?
- Can I use the market as usual?
Thanks & Cheers
Michael

Yes, you can remove bloat ware and still use market, but not sure about ota updates
You'll also be able to perform full nandroid backups of your device
With extra addition of a new kernel you'll be able to over clock cpu.
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I don't think you can use OTA's. but all you would have to do is unroot, update and reroot
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perfect - thanks for the information. I rooted it.. works perfectly.. finally "htc locations" is gone!!

the qestion i ask myself here: why wouldnt you want to flash a custom rom, when having the ability to do so?
im currently running lbc mod and im very happy with it
plus it seems to me that the roms that are out now are just the beginning!

why would I change? stock rom does what I need it to do.. if I find a reason I can still change...

chaelli said:
why would I change? stock rom does what I need it to do.. if I find a reason I can still change...
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You should at least try a custom ROM before you decide to stay on shipped stock, you can always re-stock by running an RUU.
You'll find that a good custom, I personally like LBC MOD is simply a faster, improved, better looking version of stock with less bugs and added functionality.
Otherwise its like buying a car and never using the top gear.

chaelli said:
Hi
just a short question.. what are the advantages of having a rooted phone if one doesn't want to install a custom rom?
- Can I remove all the crap-ware that was delivered with the phone? e.g. Navigation
- Can I still get the HTC-OTA Updates?
- Can I use the market as usual?
Thanks & Cheers
Michael
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YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET OTA!!!!!! STEP WAWY FROM OTA!!!!!!! DO NOT download OTA's if you have acustom rom!!!!!!! CLEAR ???????!!!!!!
What people don't seem to realise sometimes is that there is a difference between S-off and rooting. With the old Desire it was root first then S-off, which was a safer environment for a noob or the perpetually impetuously stupid. Root gives you Administrator access, like on a PC rather than a guest account, but S-off allows total control over system and data partitions for instance and a whole shed full of stuff that even some dev's don't regularly need. Be careful with S-off!
STEP AWAY FROM THE OTA!

@infernalByte: this is true for custom roms.. but no for s-off & root - right?
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?

chaelli said:
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?
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If you install a custom you shouldn't apply OTA updates. The person who created the custom ROM in the first place will often incorporate the OTA updates within the next release of their ROM.
No RUU, is a ROM Update Utility which is a program that you run on your PC to install a ROM. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
Although to be able to try a custom you must first use the AlphaRexv software to make your phone S-OFF.
If you then wish to take a backup of your stock you will additionally need to install a recovery like clock work mod (CWM) or the EXT4 one as you listed above. You will also need to use the ginger break software to get root on your phone before you can take a full useful backup (a Nandroid backup).
Yes after installing custom you would need to install all applications.
I suggest that you use the appbrain site and the application to manage your market applications..its assists re-installs.
I also would suggest that you don't rush into any of this.....you should read around the forum for a few more days until you are perfectly happy with what you are doing, ask more questions if needed.

chaelli said:
@infernalByte: this is true for custom roms.. but no for s-off & root - right?
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?
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The HTC OTA is not expecting you to be rooted. STEP AWAY FROM THE OTA!
An RUU is a HTC's Routine User Utility and they are what HTC's techies use to fix phones, RUU's are easy to administer but it will wipe EVERYTHING of your phone, data, your rom, your Hboot, some of them will even change your radio. EVERYTHING. Use an RUU and you will no longer be rooted or S-off.

Damn, beaten to it!!

thank you two for the additional information.. so RUU is a last resort.. usually I could use the backup I created with ext4.
I'm going to read some more about the different roms and decide if I want to try one...

chaelli said:
thank you two for the additional information.. so RUU is a last resort.. usually I could use the backup I created with ext4.
I'm going to read some more about the different roms and decide if I want to try one...
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Your welcome.
As for flashing roms; you may as well try one. At the moment all roms bar one that I can find use Sense, so all shouldn't look that different from HTC stock. Miui is the exception, it is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and looks radically different from what your used too.
Just do a Nandroid back up, then you can always wipe and restore.

RUU=ROM Upgrade Utility. It's just a way of flashing stock ROM to phone via usb connection with pc.
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Last stupid question (hopefully : nandroid backup is what I do in the restore menu when I choose "backup"
And a follow up.. sd-card contents are not backuped and also not overwritten when installing custom roms? But I still need to reinstall the apps on there?
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chaelli said:
Last stupid question (hopefully : nandroid backup is what I do in the restore menu when I choose "backup"
And a follow up.. sd-card contents are not backuped and also not overwritten when installing custom roms? But I still need to reinstall the apps on there?
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yes sd card contents are not backed up
& you need to reinstall the apps from your sd card,the apps from the old rom are replaced with the apps from the new rom

You can do 1 and 3, I don't think you can do 2 if you remove the udpate file from the ROM.

After rooting I still receive OTA updates (Arabic support)
Will there be any effect if I install it?
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Help a newbie?

Hi Guys,
Apologies if the following seems easy but I'm new to the rooting scene. Had an iPhone for a while and jailbroke on several occasions but never rooted an android before.
I have a desire S which I would like to root. Here's my plan of action.
1)S-off using alpharevx
2)Download and run ginger break to get root
3)download and install the free application rom manager from android market to flash CWM
5) Use rom manager to perform first full (Nandroid) backup
6) Wipe as per instructions for LBC Mod
7) Flash with LBC Mod
I attained that information on another thread. Here's my questions/concerns:
1. What is CWM? What does it do? Is it the same as ext4?
2. What is the Nandroid backup for? Where does it backup to?
3. Is the LBC Mod any good? Any other recommendations?
4. Will my SD card be wiped during this?
5. Is any of this flashing my radio? What does it mean to flash the radio? Do I need to do it?
6. Any way to backup apps during this? all my contacts and calendars are synced with google so not concerned about those.
I appreciate any and all help If I'm feeling confident enough I'm going to give this a go when I get home from work.

to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...

In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Eastnorth said:
to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...
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Good answer mate, nice & succinct
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ben_pyett said:
In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Thanks for the help - feeling a bit more confident about this now

so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......

steste01 said:
so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......
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did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...

Adidas108 said:
did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...
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Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?

xIntenso said:
Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?
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That's exactly what happened to me but still managed superuser.
Also when I tried to use RomManager it wouldn't work with EXT4, I had to flash CWM instead.

Im rooted now and running LBC custom ROM but I cant download anything from the marketplace - I get a download was unsuccessful errors.
Anyone know how to fix this? Ive tried fixing permissions, signing into goggle talk, stopping the market process but nothing is working.

You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
*Another newbie here *
Regards,

solojuve1897 said:
What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
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Seems too buggy to me. Just look at the bugtracker.

dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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isnt that the one that doesnt play video?

right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.

steste01 said:
right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.
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Just flash a stock rom

neomis said:
Just flash a stock rom
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So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?

steste01 said:
isnt that the one that doesnt play video?
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Solved in v1.2
Only problems are:
-Bluetooth not working
-battery usage
Since the rom is only a few days old I expect these will be solved pretty soon.
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steste01 said:
So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?
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Why dont you just restore your backup? You did create a backup first as instructed, right?
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Stock but rooted - Avoiding OTA Push?

As the title suggests I am stock gingerbread (the one pushed then oulled back). I would like to remain this way until cm7 has become official for the thunderbolt or at least until it has a few of the bugs ironed out in the rom so we don't have to flash fixes.
Anyway I am familiar with the method of renaming otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak and I have done that.
I wonder if others have had success blocking ota's with that method?
Is anyone familiar with a better method?

recDNA said:
As the title suggests I am stock gingerbread (the one pushed then oulled back). I would like to remain this way until cm7 has become official for the thunderbolt or at least until it has a few of the bugs ironed out in the rom so we don't have to flash fixes.
Anyway I am familiar with the method of renaming otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak and I have done that.
I wonder if others have had success blocking ota's with that method?
Is anyone familiar with a better method?
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well, renaming files at least works for boot animations & such, so i don't see why it wouldn't work for that ota file. normally, if it's something i don't want/need, i'll either freeze it or remove it entirely. try 'Anttek App Manager'(it's free).
additionally, i wouldn't wait around on an "official" CM7 for the Thunderbolt as that may never happen. i find at least that the latest 'SHIFTAO5P" roms that dhacker is now working on are the most stable ones and seem to have everything working ok.

recDNA said:
As the title suggests I am stock gingerbread (the one pushed then oulled back). I would like to remain this way until cm7 has become official for the thunderbolt or at least until it has a few of the bugs ironed out in the rom so we don't have to flash fixes.
Anyway I am familiar with the method of renaming otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak and I have done that.
I wonder if others have had success blocking ota's with that method?
Is anyone familiar with a better method?
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Has anyone actually tried the method I mentioned
Did it work

Now that an ota IS being pushed I guess i'll find out the hard way unless someone can help me out?

I got a OTA request right before I updated from Stock Rooted Gingerbread to the current stock rooted.
Now I'm on the current version same as OTA but rooted, renamed otacert.zip.bak but still had in the software update "deferred update pending".
Not sure how to stop this. Any help appreciated.

Can't u accept the OTA n just reinstall Superuser as long as ur S-Off? Been awhile so I can't remember.
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I accepted the OTA this evening & now I'm stuck. It shut down to then reboot & I ended up stuck at the triangle ! screen for over an hour.
Removing the battery & turning it on allows me to get it back, but as soon as the system is loaded it powers down again to complete the update...
Rooted via Revolutionary method & I'm stuck until someone with more xp comes along & can point me in the correct direction.
My bad.

Tantalin said:
I accepted the OTA this evening & now I'm stuck. It shut down to then reboot & I ended up stuck at the triangle ! screen for over an hour.
Removing the battery & turning it on allows me to get it back, but as soon as the system is loaded it powers down again to complete the update...
Rooted via Revolutionary method & I'm stuck until someone with more xp comes along & can point me in the correct direction.
My bad.
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Rev method copies its own version of hboot and does not allow an OTA to copy over its own version. I could be completely wrong since i didnt use Revo to root my phone but you may want to try powering to hboot menu if you can power on you can get there, and try flashing the rooted version after full system wipe.
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Could you just restore a nandroid?
I noticed when I updated manually (with help from mike and grlantern) that the file I had renamed otacerts.zip.bak is now back to otacerts.zip. I don't know if the update process created a new version or what but the date next to the zip folder is August, not October.
Is it possible for you to get to hboot by holding volume down as you push power key, then choose recovery, then restore to a nandroid (assuming you ever backed up your rooted rom).
I'm not sure if recovery will still be available though if the update made you s-on.
I'm no expert so perhaps you may want to wait for grlantern to chime in.

recDNA said:
I noticed when I updated manually (with help from mike and grlantern) that the file I had renamed otacerts.zip.bak is now back to otacerts.zip. I don't know if the update process created a new version or what but the date next to the zip folder is August, not October.
Is it possible for you to get to hboot by holding volume down as you push power key, then choose recovery, then restore to a nandroid (assuming you ever backed up your rooted rom).
I'm not sure if recovery will still be available though if the update made you s-on.
I'm no expert so perhaps you may want to wait for grlantern to chime in.
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1. Have you ever looked at other files in there or files in windows. They don't update files that don't need updates so some files could be from launch of Thunderbolt if the file did not need an update.
2. Revo protects you from an RUU gaining S-On with its version of Hboot. I think the process of returning to stock by flashing an RUU is just for the ADB method which is what I used. I think Revo has to use a different method to regain stock.
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You realize I was trying to give tanalin an idea of how to get his phone working again right?
I just thought he might be able to get into recovery and restore a nandroid or even wipe everything and install a custom rom? Of course I don't know if he can get into cwm.

recDNA said:
You realize I was trying to give tanalin an idea of how to get his phone working again right?
I just thought he might be able to get into recovery and restore a nandroid or even wipe everything and install a custom rom? Of course I don't know if he can get into cwm.
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I was answering your file question while telling him why his OTA didn't work cause of the hboot problem
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Grnlantern79 said:
1. Have you ever looked at other files in there or files in windows. They don't update files that don't need updates so some files could be from launch of Thunderbolt if the file did not need an update.
2. Revo protects you from an RUU gaining S-On with its version of Hboot. I think the process of returning to stock by flashing an RUU is just for the ADB method which is what I used. I think Revo has to use a different method to regain stock.
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I'm in the same pickle as tantalin. Let me ask some dumb questions:
- I can get to the CWM recovery screen. Are you saying I could do a factory re-set, then restore the ROM pre-update? Would I have to have backed up before the OTA (which I didn't, as I only rooted yesterday...argh).
Thanks for your help.

Keep in mind Im a beginner too so you may want to wait for someone with more experience.
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Yes, you would have had to have a rom to restore to. You could try wiping data, cache, and dalvik cache but I don't know whether phone would boot.
Another alternative would be to shut off phone, take out flash card, copy a custom rom like bamf forever 1.0.8 or the rooted version of the update on the sdcard. Put sdcard back in phone, turn on phone whole holding volume key down. Go to recovery. Wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache (under advanced choices)Choose instal from sdcard. Browse to custom rom you put on sdcard. Choose it and install.
Keep in mind Im a beginner too so you may want to wait for someone with more experience.

TOTALLY INADVERTENT SUCCESS!!
I booted into clockworkmod recovery, deleted the cache partition, then under "advanced", I deleted the dalvik cache. I have literally no idea what either of these two things are, but since a factory reset was my worst case scenario, jimmy cracked corn and I didn't care.
Rebooted recovery (accidentally), then rebooted the phone. An error message saying the update failed! Happy day!
Now I can back the phone up properly, and go forward. So worried I'd lose all my apps and information not backed up to my Exchange server! Phew!!!!

If you have a rooted stock phone, and then you accept an OTA or load an RUU, you WILL lose root and the custom recovery program. But you SHOULD still be S-Off. If you are in that position right now, you need to re-flash the custom recovery to be able reload the SU app to regain root.
If you are actually back in S-on, you need to restart the root process from the beginning.
THEN BACK UP IMMEDIATELY BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE....
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Fastlivin said:
TOTALLY INADVERTENT SUCCESS!!
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Good job.

Fastlivin said:
TOTALLY INADVERTENT SUCCESS!!
I booted into clockworkmod recovery, deleted the cache partition, then under "advanced", I deleted the dalvik cache. I have literally no idea what either of these two things are, but since a factory reset was my worst case scenario, jimmy cracked corn and I didn't care.
Rebooted recovery (accidentally), then rebooted the phone. An error message saying the update failed! Happy day!
Now I can back the phone up properly, and go forward. So worried I'd lose all my apps and information not backed up to my Exchange server! Phew!!!!
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Excellent! I know that phew feeling all to well!
Now please, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (You'll be glad you did!)
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=829066

Grnlantern79 said:
Rev method copies its own version of hboot and does not allow an OTA to copy over its own version. I could be completely wrong since i didnt use Revo to root my phone but you may want to try powering to hboot menu if you can power on you can get there, and try flashing the rooted version after full system wipe.
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I was able to get to HBOOT & I followed the steps in the 3rd post of this thread starting at step 5.
I didn't wipe anything (Wipe data, cache, and dalvik), so I don't know what the short term or long term effects are.
I used TiBup & My Backup Pro to restore my SMS/MMS...I don't really want to go any further until I know if I should go back & wipe those things & then do it over...anyone?

I ended up in the exact situation as the op. I went back to stock rooted with perm S-Off and the update got pushed to my phone.
When I noticed the phone trying to update but stuck at the screen you are describing I pulled the battery and went into recovery from hboot. In recovery under mounts there is an option to turn on sd storage or something like that. I've used it before so I knew it would allow me to access the sd card from pc. I then downloaded the rooted rom of the ota. Then I unmounted the phone from pc, rebooted recovery, and went through the normal rom installation.
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The only issue to me seems if you have something on the phone not backed up you want to keep. Even if the update installs and it updates the bootloader back to s-on, revolutionary root still works so you cam just re-root.
Edit: I recommend you head over to thunderboltforums to at least restore the bootloader to stock s-off if you want to accept the update and re-root.
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Multiple Roms stored on phone

Just want to be sure before I proceed. Ive rooted my Nexus S (i9023) and have installed Clockwork Recovery and have also installed Rom Manager Premium. This might sound like a silly question and if it does, I apologise. Can I store multiple ROM (zipped) on my phone and install them when I want? I mean, once I get bored with one, can I just use rom manager to pick out any rom stored in my phone memory and install it?? Thanks in advance guys. Any help with this, will be very much appreciated.

Yes... multiple roms can be stored.
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melvinchng said:
Yes... multiple roms can be stored.
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Thanks, very much appreciated.

There's no problem storing the roms or backups in CWM ... however be careful to wipe appropriately between installs.

Ive stored 4 roms on my nexus and have tried them all, before finally deciding on CdTDroiD's which, Im liking a lot. I do have another question though. How would I go about restoring my phone to as it was when I first took it out of the box. Im not going to do it if I can help it, Im just thinking ahead, should it become faulty and needs a warrenty repair etc. Thanks once again guys.

I rarely delete rom zips unless I really disliked the rom. My SD card typically has 3 or 4 roms stored on it at any given moment.

Tried the matrix rom. I couldnt get it to boot up and kept getting an error message. Ive taken it off and gone back to CdTDroiD's rom which I quite like.

To get your OOTB phone back just backup everything, download the FULL FLASHABLE ROM from this sticky (you'll be wanting the i9023 2.3.6 GB or 4.0.3 ICS, and these are files straight from google) and copy it onto your sdcard. Now wipe the usual; data/factory reset, /system and /boot, and install the zip.
After this you will have no root and your stock recovery back. You'll also want to lock your bootloader if you want to send it back, do this by "fastboot oem lock" and it's like it was still in the box

Thanks mate, very much appreciated.

How to disable update notification

Hey guys,
First off, I am an admitted noob. From what I can tell, updating to 2.20/4.04 will un-root your device so I'm looking for a way to disable the update notification. Is there a way to get it to stop bugging me until 2.20 is rooted?
Also, how do upgrades generally work when you're rooted and want to maintain root?
Thanks!

Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Goood

footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?

nyteroot said:
Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
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Something like that
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If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..

gentzleon said:
If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
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I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...

nyteroot said:
I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
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To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Normally with OTAs, after the OTA is downloaded, you will have the option to install or not. Just cancel, then delete the file from the SD card. Somebody will have to verify this is the case (haven't gotten the notification, personally), but that is normally how HTC does it. You have to be really careful not to hit the wrong option. But once you've cancelled the install, you won't get any more notifications for this particular OTA.
Really, the "settings" method suggested by footbal9584 seems much safer (as a wrong button press will actually install the OTA for my way). But if his method doesn't work, you might try mine.
Also, all the info you will probably ever need about unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMs, etc. can be found in my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There you will find a method for keeping your user data while doing the bootloader unlock. But honestly, I'd recommend not going through the hassle. If you intend to flash custom ROMs, you should wipe data anyway.

E.Cadro said:
To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
EDIT: Whoops -- didn't see post above. The method there uses dd to do a block-level backup -- does one of the above methods work, or not so much?

nyteroot said:
Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
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Nandroid is a full backup of the ROM, all user data, apps, and settings. If you are flashing custom ROMs, that is not what you want for restoring user data, etc. But its a good idea to do a nandroid backup of the stock ROM, in case you want to go back.
Titanium Backup is great for backing up user apps, and some settings. Some people use it to restore various settings, but this can be problematic, as all ROMs don't treat this data the same. Personally, I just use Titanium to backup and restore my apps and app save data, and sometimes WiFi and Bluetooth pairings. But I configure everything else manually. Usually takes me about 20 minutes to do it all when moving between ROMs.

footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now

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Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
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Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.

If I freeze the updater, will it break my phone?

I do not know I highly doubt it would but no guarantees. I cleared my data before it downloaded anything it just started the "there is an update you cannot use tour phone during install do you want to install now" I postponed it 8 hours a few times, but then just cleared the data and still haven't gotten any notifications.
Maybe see of what the other user said is correct maybe the update was downloaded to your phone and you need to remove the file before it will leave you alone.
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nyteroot said:
Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
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At least on other devices, if you let the OTA download, then cancel it, it should stop the notifications. Can you confirm or deny this?
You can then just find the file on the internal SD and delete it. At least that is how it worked on the HTC Flyer.
If you can confirm, this would probably be a handy method for others. At least one other person is asking how to cancel the install (and other that want to stop the notifications, I'm sure): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29903041

Update: nevermind I restarted my phone today and ad soon as it booted up I got the is your last time to postpone message so I cleared updater again but now every time I unlock my phone I'm prompted to update and just have to push the back button. Sorry I'll keep looking into it.
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Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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footbal9584 said:
Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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Finally got my last chance to postpone. Glad you posted exactly where it was located. Deleted and hopefully it wont update.
Thanks!

footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks for this info. I went one step beyond that and backed up and uninstalled the updater and updater setup within Titanium Backup. Will report back if anything gets messed up.