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ROM Manager-Backup Help..

I perma rooted my shift here, and installed ROM Manager. I wanted to backup my current stock rom+root just incase I f#*k something up, under flash recovery image i selected htc evo (cdma) (evo shift is not listed) it says successful but when i click backup current rom, it turns off and is stuck on htc screen...any suggestion??
by the way, i have busybox v1.17.1, updated via busybox app from market.

I don't think RM is supported on the shift yet...
OMG, Just read what you wrote. Um, you installed an evo recovery on your shift? That's not good.

ROM manager, and more importantly ClockworkMod are not yet supported on our device...
There are some versions that "work" -- I say that because they have issues, but have some functionality.
You need to flash your recovery manually with the one from the perma-root thread, using those steps.

grunge315 said:
ROM manager, and more importantly ClockworkMod are not yet supported on our device...
There are some versions that "work" -- I say that because they have issues, but have some functionality.
You need to flash your recovery manually with the one from the perma-root thread, using those steps.
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Is it possible to flash it manually now, after I did it for evo..or start from stock rom again?
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gbL420 said:
Is it possible to flash it manually now, after I did it for evo..or start from stock rom again?
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If you can boot to recovery I'd recommend running the stock ruu from your computer...that should fix the problem but know it will wipe all data and return you to out of the box stock...you can find it in the development section in the perm root/recovery/stock ruu thread (or something like that not sure exactly what the thread is called)
Edit: ha sorry thats what its called on the android central forum...you can find it still in the development section as speedy ruu

StAlphonso said:
If you can boot to recovery I'd recommend running the stock ruu from your computer...that should fix the problem but know it will wipe all data and return you to out of the box stock...you can find it in the development section in the perm root/recovery/stock ruu thread (or something like that not sure exactly what the thread is called)
Edit: ha sorry thats what its called on the android central forum...you can find it still in the development section as speedy ruu
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Lol yeaa I have the ruu saved on my pc, question: after I install stock rom can I restore my sys data/apps (minus clockwork) without having problems? (Using titanium backup)
Also I dunno if anyone else is having problems with mobile data but once in a while I have to reboot to get 3g back.
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gbL420 said:
Lol yeaa I have the ruu saved on my pc, question: after I install stock rom can I restore my sys data/apps (minus clockwork) without having problems? (Using titanium backup)
Also I dunno if anyone else is having problems with mobile data but once in a while I have to reboot to get 3g back.
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i think you would probably have to root again since not sure you would be able to even access sys data/app without root but not 100% about that and i dont imagine it causing any trouble as long as you get rid of clockwork but again im really not sure at all so i dont wanna say with any certainty.....also i havent had any problems with mobile data so far

StAlphonso said:
i think you would probably have to root again since not sure you would be able to even access sys data/app without root but not 100% about that and i dont imagine it causing any trouble as long as you get rid of clockwork but again im really not sure at all so i dont wanna say with any certainty.....also i havent had any problems with mobile data so far
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Thanks
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Help a newbie?

Hi Guys,
Apologies if the following seems easy but I'm new to the rooting scene. Had an iPhone for a while and jailbroke on several occasions but never rooted an android before.
I have a desire S which I would like to root. Here's my plan of action.
1)S-off using alpharevx
2)Download and run ginger break to get root
3)download and install the free application rom manager from android market to flash CWM
5) Use rom manager to perform first full (Nandroid) backup
6) Wipe as per instructions for LBC Mod
7) Flash with LBC Mod
I attained that information on another thread. Here's my questions/concerns:
1. What is CWM? What does it do? Is it the same as ext4?
2. What is the Nandroid backup for? Where does it backup to?
3. Is the LBC Mod any good? Any other recommendations?
4. Will my SD card be wiped during this?
5. Is any of this flashing my radio? What does it mean to flash the radio? Do I need to do it?
6. Any way to backup apps during this? all my contacts and calendars are synced with google so not concerned about those.
I appreciate any and all help If I'm feeling confident enough I'm going to give this a go when I get home from work.

to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...

In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Eastnorth said:
to your question
1.
2.
3.LBC Mod is very good
4.no
5.no
6.titanium backup to backup all your apps
I am newbie too...
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Good answer mate, nice & succinct
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ben_pyett said:
In all honesty you could have used google for a great deal of this, especially CWM and Nandroid backup!
1) CWM (clock work mod) is a recovery program that permits you to perform advance functions (ie backups, restores, formats and flash roms etc) on your device that you wouldnt be able to do with Android alone. Ext4 is an improved version of CWM built from the same code base, which is easier to use and offers more functionality.
2) A nandroid backup is simply a full backup of your device. that you can restore at a later time, including everything except the SD card.
3) I like LBC MOD that’s why I use it.
4) No sd will not be wiped, but everything elseon the device will.
5) None of these steps flashes your radio. The radio is the software on your device that controls your phones interaction with the mobile network and wi-fi. You should only upgrade your radio if its advised in the ROM installation instructions or your experiencing problems. Flashing a radio is in theory more dangerous than flashing a rom.
6) You can backup apps, by using an application like Titanium Backup but its not advised when moving from one ROM to another completely differing one, like you are from stock to LBC.
Good luck
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Thanks for the help - feeling a bit more confident about this now

so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......

steste01 said:
so much for feeling confident
I have attained S-OFF no problems but cant get gingerbreak to work.
Have tried a couple of times. Once it just hung at "rooting" for a long long time so i cancelled it.
Then I thought it was successful as the phone rebooted but ROM Manager is telling me there is no superuser available. What could I be doing wrong?
EDIT: formatted the SD card and tried gingerbreak again.. Success!! Now for some ROM fun......
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did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...

Adidas108 said:
did u formatted via phone or some card reader?
i cant get gingerbreak to work...
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Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?

xIntenso said:
Did you actually use an app to test if you have root?
Because it's normal that gingerbreak gives you an error and tells you to reboot.
Do you have superuser after trying?
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That's exactly what happened to me but still managed superuser.
Also when I tried to use RomManager it wouldn't work with EXT4, I had to flash CWM instead.

Im rooted now and running LBC custom ROM but I cant download anything from the marketplace - I get a download was unsuccessful errors.
Anyone know how to fix this? Ive tried fixing permissions, signing into goggle talk, stopping the market process but nothing is working.

You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
*Another newbie here *
Regards,

solojuve1897 said:
What about Virtuous Unity? (For some reason I thought it looked like the best room, but what do I know?)
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Seems too buggy to me. Just look at the bugtracker.

dohnjoe said:
You may wanna checkout the cyanogenmod rom created recently, it is remarkably stable and fast. There's a thread in the dev section with links and instructions.
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isnt that the one that doesnt play video?

right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.

steste01 said:
right how do i go back to stock? This is just too unreliable.
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Just flash a stock rom

neomis said:
Just flash a stock rom
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So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?

steste01 said:
isnt that the one that doesnt play video?
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Solved in v1.2
Only problems are:
-Bluetooth not working
-battery usage
Since the rom is only a few days old I expect these will be solved pretty soon.
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steste01 said:
So im on o2 UK.
Flashing with this ROM:
RUU_Saga_O2_UK_1.31.206.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38 .03.02.14_M_release
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca32...935_signed.exe
will get back to sa it was when it shipped?
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Why dont you just restore your backup? You did create a backup first as instructed, right?
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OTA on rooted phones?

My first question is: is it possible to get the OTA update on a rooted phone?
The 2nd question is there something I can do to get the Software Update check work?
I realise that my first question may answer this one as well, it's only just that all of the other ROM's I've tried did at least seem to contact a checking service and come back with a response that No Updates have been found. This one just keeps waiting for a response and never gets one.
Want to at least try the official OTA ICS update from Vodafone UK if possible, without having to load a stock ROM and locking my phone again.
Thanks
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It has always been traditionally said not to apply an OTA on a rooted phone as, historically, it's caused nothing but problems. Whether the same is true now I can't say BUT I would not recommend it personally

do i need to uninstall only SU, or su and clockwork to install ota?
sorry for my bad english
thanks

CWM needs to go as well - you need the stock recovery

Thanks for the advice. I'll have to go stock if CM9 is a long way off. Or try 7.x again, although I'll really miss ICS.
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I think as long as you have stock recovery but are S-OFF; it shouldn't be an issue. I looked at some previous posts , albeit from the Evo forum and it seems to be fine. I could be wrong, though.

I keep seeing people post about being rooted and flashing the OTA update. Now someone please, please, please correct me if I am wrong, but when you flash as new ROM, unless you just flash a new system via ADB fastboot commands, you flash a new kernel and all every time you flash a new ROM. So therefor it does not matter if you are rooted cause the rooted kernel will be replaced with a new ROM. For those out there that do not know the kernel is contained in the boot.img of a ROM. Now in a s tock ROM it is. Of always named boot.img but it is still pretty much the same thing with maybe a little more than a custom TOM's would be. So please people stop wording about being rooted, it does not matter. If you are on the correct stock ROM and have the stock recovery you are good to go to flash and run the OTA. It does not matter if you are S-off or S-on either.

It does 100% matter as otherwise the SU app/binary will still be present and potentially cause issue to the 'stock' ROM. Go look at the Desire forums all over the net for examples as to why you shouldn't flash an OTA onto a rooted handset

EddyOS said:
It does 100% matter as otherwise the SU app/binary will still be present and potentially cause issue to the 'stock' ROM. Go look at the Desire forums all over the net for examples as to why you shouldn't flash an OTA onto a rooted handset
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So as long as you're stock recovery, and stock ROM, but s-off, it shouldn't have any bearing whether or not you upgrade ota... Right?
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EddyOS said:
It does 100% matter as otherwise the SU app/binary will still be present and potentially cause issue to the 'stock' ROM. Go look at the Desire forums all over the net for examples as to why you shouldn't flash an OTA onto a rooted handset
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Ok I well look into this further when I get home from work. I have not looked at the Desire forums yet, bit I will later today. My question is though are the Desire users having to use the stock recovery, or has someone made a flashable .zip file for them of the OTA? If so this could have something to do with the troubles. Like I said I will check into this further this evening. I still say it should not as the kernel is replaced when you flash the OTA update, bit I could very well be wrong.

It's not that you can't do it, you can, it's just not recommended. By all means try it but should it go wrong flashing an RUU is all that would work
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EddyOS said:
It's not that you can't do it, you can, it's just not recommended. By all means try it but should it go wrong flashing an RUU is all that would work
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I totally understand what you are saying, but flashing stock is not the only way to fix it, it is just the easiest and most user friendly way to fix it. It is pretty much a one click fix, and that is because of the RUU it self. When you flash via a RUU the utility runs a Task 28 on the NAND memory first meaning the NAND is totally wipped, meaning all partitions, before the ROM is flashed. Now you can also use ADB to remove and reflash all partitions,Splash 1(mtdblock0), recovery(mtdblock1), boot(mtdblock2), system(mtdblock3). cache(mtdblock4), userdata(mtdblock5).
Now back to the question about being rooted, I still have not got home yet to get on my computer to look at the desire forums. Now from what I know root is acheived on the kernel level cause that is what root is. It allows for direct communication with the kernel, again correct me if I am wrong. Now I understand that Superuser app binaries would still be present if you flashed just the system. But if you flash a whole new ROM wich is what the OTA update does, then the kernel is replaced with the kerneel in the OTA update, which by is either a completely new kernel or a modified kernel that HTC has made to work with ICS. I have not had time to look into wich one it is, but from my experience of trying to help port the SDK of ICS to the Sensation it is probably a completely new kernel.
Anyway I will have to do some research on the differences between stock recoveries and custom recoveries. Specifically the processes the recoveries run when flashing a ROM from SD card, and just what all is in the OTA update files. Once I get to do this I will be more able to give a hard core answer to this question. Oh and thinks to the EddyOS for helping to get me back into digging around in ROM files and learning more about how Android works.
Edit: I totally forgot to mention JTAG, this is another way that you could fix the problem, all be it sort of a major over kill for the problem, but still a fix.

[SOLVED] System Software Update is Corrupted

I have been waiting for a while to get the OTA update to ICS on my Sensation XE and finally got it today in the UK. When i come to download and install the update it will download fine but as soon as its finished it says "The downloaded system software update is corrupted" and the only options are to download again or do nothing and stick with gingerbread - i don't really want to do either of those. I have tried to download the update about 20 times now with the same result!
I have found something on another forum who said a factory reset is the only cure for this but as i am not rooted or anything like that I cant properly backup my apps using titanium backup so i will lose all my progress in my games and stuff so I really don't want to do this unless I absolutely have no other choice.
I was wondering if anyone else on here has had this problem and found a way around it without doing a hard reset. I have already taken the battery out and left it for a while but that did nothing either.
Thanks in advance!

If u can't backup coz u r not rooted - move sensitive apps to SD (then ur personal data like saves in games is moved to sd), and then use "Apps Backup & Restore" app to backup all apk's from installed apps to sd. Then, backup ur SMS using system core feature from MEssages > Menu > BAck-up messages
That should be enough for you. But in my opinion you should do CLEAR install, and again after ICS update wipe to factory settings, because without this - phone is useless, believe me.
I hope my english is understandable

hexen88 said:
If u can't backup coz u r not rooted - move sensitive apps to SD (then ur personal data like saves in games is moved to sd), and then use "Apps Backup & Restore" app to backup all apk's from installed apps to sd. Then, backup ur SMS using system core feature from MEssages > Menu > BAck-up messages
That should be enough for you. But in my opinion you should do CLEAR install, and again after ICS update wipe to factory settings, because without this - phone is useless, believe me.
I hope my english is understandable
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Thanks for the reply!
I have already done the SMS backup but not the app back up. I was wondering if the app you suggested to back up apps re links the apps back to the market once they have been restored like titanium backup does it?
I was also hoping someone could tell me if they have had to do a factory reset to solve the problem because I don't want to do a reset to find it hasn't solved the problem.
Thanks

Get the ICS RUU from the shipped roms thread and flash that. OK, you lose your data but at least it's a 100% fresh install
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how to do the same here?
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EddyOS said:
Get the ICS RUU from the shipped roms thread and flash that. OK, you lose your data but at least it's a 100% fresh install
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Cheers eddy.
For doing this do I need to be s off and root with a custom recovery or is flashing a ruu different so I just have to put it somewhere and trick the phone into flashing it?
I think I'll do this method if doing a factory reset doesn't work as I'll be doing a fresh install anyway.

As Far As I know, to RUU you won't have to have S-OFF and Custom Recovery. Because if you installed Custom Recovery it will replace with the default HTC Recovery.
If you planned to have S-OFF later I would you recommend you to do it before upgrade, because I think right now no body have release out on how to get S-OFF on HTC's ICS yet.
Have you try to used different Micro SDCard before try to download the upgrade.

If you have a stock XE then the XE RUU is fine without S-OFF. Here's the link:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3aa...00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_251961_signed.exe
As said above, S-OFF whilst still on 2.3 as you can't S-OFF with the new 1.27 HBOOT YET (it's coming soon, though). Then flash the RUU and you keep S-OFF

XaQi 101 said:
As Far As I know, to RUU you won't have to have S-OFF and Custom Recovery. Because if you installed Custom Recovery it will replace with the default HTC Recovery.
If you planned to have S-OFF later I would you recommend you to do it before upgrade, because I think right now no body have release out on how to get S-OFF on HTC's ICS yet.
Have you try to used different Micro SDCard before try to download the upgrade.
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You f#%king beauty xaqi!!! Another sd card worked. If I could hug you I would!!! I really wasn't wanting to flash anything or do anything extra to it. So I'm presuming if I was to format my sd card that would work as well...
Thank you everyone for your help! ICS W00P

Fulwood Sedge said:
You f#%king beauty xaqi!!! Another sd card worked. If I could hug you I would!!! I really wasn't wanting to flash anything or do anything extra to it. So I'm presuming if I was to format my sd card that would work as well...
Thank you everyone for your help! ICS W00P
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Not to revive an old thread, but I just wanted to add that using a new sd card worked for me, too.

[Q] Rooted stock: need system update and install LeeDroid. Just want to make sure..

So I got the HTC One S on launch day and it's been working fine but now it has an available system update which I'm not sure applies to me as I don't use wifi calling.
My phone is already rooted with the stock rom and I just fixed my CWM recovery installation.
I have had experience with flashing new roms with my old mytouch 3g slide but I want to make sure I get it right on this phone.
I bought a copy of titanium backup pro so I assume I should just use that to backup everything (except recent calls and texts, never figured that out but feel free to suggest an app for that...maybe built in google account?).
If I got it correct, this is what I plan to do:
1. Backup everything
2. Flash stock rom
3. Perform System /update
3. Re-root?
4. Flash LeeDroid
5. Restore apps
Let me know if that's right, or maybe I don't need to re-root? Or maybe root after installing LeeDroid?

You only really want it for the radio update. Roms come with new bases and there's no reason to update the hboot.
Check out the dev section for a way to update the radio while rooted.
However of you want to go the long way, you will have to
Back up
Relock the bootloader
Run the correct ruu
Run the update
Repeat the steps you have taken to unlock and root
Then restore etc...
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Big_Den said:
You only really want it for the radio update. Roms come with new bases and there's no reason to update the hboot.
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Just update the radio. Takes a couple of minutes.
No point going through that whole process if you are going back to Leedroid!!

Thanks guys, it's just as simple as flashing the new radio from a zip file in cwm (like on my old mytouch slide), right? I'm gonna do a full backup and try out leedroid tomorrow.
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I have the same update on my notification bar...question is, how do i erase it?
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What do you mean by leedroid? Like his room or his tweaks? I'm asking because you said you're stock rooted.
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Big_Den said:
You only really want it for the radio update. Roms come with new bases and there's no reason to update the hboot.
Check out the dev section for a way to update the radio while rooted.
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But isn't updating radio much more dangerous than a normal full upgrade? I mean you risk a permanent brick!

Yup
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