Will update still allow having root? - Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus

I got my wife the Samsung galaxy plus 7 for her birthday today and it's saying that there is an update for it. I'm not sure if its ok to except the update or not, because eventually I would like to get it rooted. Also, I read that in order to get root, you must first update the kies. Sorry for possible a simple question to some, but what are kies?
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bluezr1 said:
I got my wife the Samsung galaxy plus 7 for her birthday today and it's saying that there is an update for it. I'm not sure if its ok to except the update or not, because eventually I would like to get it rooted. Also, I read that in order to get root, you must first update the kies. Sorry for possible a simple question to some, but what are kies?
Thanks,
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hey it is safer than safe to update it is infact encouraged to update at all times as updates are made to fix manufacturer bugs and/or issues that may be present on the device weather you have noticed them or not they will be present for sure like the SOD issue Screen of death a bug that makes your device shut down and/or reboot randomly with no control...this is a manufacturer bug and an update will be required to remove the issue from the device. so basically you will need to update on the device and with the Samsung kies (kies is a software that you will need to download from Samsung just search it on Google to learn more and to download kies is universal to all devices supplied by Samsung and i would also like to recommend not rooting your device until you are experienced enough to repair any damages you may encounter on the way if you do lol.
the purpose of root is to gain more advanced control of your device and/or install a custom ROM on the device (but we don't have any custom roms as of yet as Samsung will not release the sauce code) if you need any help and i will help you. if this post help you please press thanks button

jmar8124 said:
hey it is safer than safe to update it is infact encouraged to update at all times as updates are made to fix manufacturer bugs and/or issues that may be present on the device weather you have noticed them or not they will be present for sure like the SOD issue Screen of death a bug that makes your device shut down and/or reboot randomly with no control...this is a manufacturer bug and an update will be required to remove the issue from the device. so basically you will need to update on the device and with the Samsung kies (kies is a software that you will need to download from Samsung just search it on Google to learn more and to download kies is universal to all devices supplied by Samsung and i would also like to recommend not rooting your device until you are experienced enough to repair any damages you may encounter on the way if you do lol.
the purpose of root is to gain more advanced control of your device and/or install a custom ROM on the device (but we don't have any custom roms as of yet as Samsung will not release the sauce code) if you need any help and i will help you. if this post help you please press thanks button
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I've rooted many devices and understand the consequences that comes with it. What I was wondering is, if I except the update will I loose the option of gaining root.
I had this happen to me before when the wife decided (I was still in bed) to accept the update to her evo. So while she had to sit back watching me change rom's, making backups, she was stuck running the stock os for a while. I do understand that at present there aren't any rom's, but I would still like to use TB, ad blocker and everything else that comes with having a rooted device.
Thanks for your reply,
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The way that Garyd9 made the root script; by pushing it via recovery in a chroot environment; it should be safe to accept the updates. Unless Samsung changes the base recovery gary9d's method should always work.

bluezr1 said:
I've rooted many devices and understand the consequences that comes with it. What I was wondering is, if I except the update will I loose the option of gaining root.
I had this happen to me before when the wife decided (I was still in bed) to accept the update to her evo. So while she had to sit back watching me change rom's, making backups, she was stuck running the stock os for a while. I do understand that at present there aren't any rom's, but I would still like to use TB, ad blocker and everything else that comes with having a rooted device.
Thanks for your reply,
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yes you can still get root i have the latest update by kies and i have rooted meany times on the device after messing it up LOL. i would recommend using the root and clock work mod combo its stated not stable but i have used it for moths and have backed up 100s of times and restored lol

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[Q] Why Root?

I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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[Q] root question

Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.

[Q] Unroot or install new ROM?

Hello,
First I just wanted to apologize for my ignorance, I'm new to this form, well, forums in general, and the last thread I was unable to reply on, so I figured the only way is to just ask.
I recently received a tab plus model 6210 from ebay, and when it requested updates, they failed. after playing around a while i realized that there was a superuser icon, so it must have been rooted already, but prior to that, I had been having some issues. One of those being some apps crashing.
Another issue, which is currently one of my primary issues is my inability to use my Paypal Here App which includes a credit card reader, because when I attempt to re-download my app from the market, it says it's incompatible. That I don't quite understand. It's running ICS 4.0.4 as is my unrooted galaxy S2 on sprint, and I am able to run it on my phone. This was one of the major factors in my purchase of the tablet, to be able to better conduct business but I'm thinking maybe the root is part of the problem, or whoever had rooted it previously possibly messed it up somehow.
I'm wondering if it would be better to unroot the device and start clean, or if downloading a new ROM for it might help fix that issue. The device was supposedly factory reset as it left the seller, and was also reset through the recovery from poweroff mode. I am not sure what has been done to the device so I'm a little hesitant to proceed, but here are the stats that I have if they are any help:
android version is 4.0.4
build number imm76d.xxLPL
kernel: [email protected]#3 SMP PREEMPT mon jun 25 22:02:05kst 2012
Thank you in advance for anyone with advice on how to proceed with either unrooting/"re"rooting or a good rom recommendation to help get this thing in working order.
*Rayne
I wouldn't unroot the tab.
I would enter CWM and wipe cache, then factory reset.
Be sure you have latest 6.0.1.0 CWM installed before you reset.
Good luck!
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just.rayne said:
Hello,
First I just wanted to apologize for my ignorance, I'm new to this form, well, forums in general, and the last thread I was unable to reply on, so I figured the only way is to just ask.
I recently received a tab plus model 6210 from ebay, and when it requested updates, they failed. after playing around a while i realized that there was a superuser icon, so it must have been rooted already, but prior to that, I had been having some issues. One of those being some apps crashing.
Another issue, which is currently one of my primary issues is my inability to use my Paypal Here App which includes a credit card reader, because when I attempt to re-download my app from the market, it says it's incompatible. That I don't quite understand. It's running ICS 4.0.4 as is my unrooted galaxy S2 on sprint, and I am able to run it on my phone. This was one of the major factors in my purchase of the tablet, to be able to better conduct business but I'm thinking maybe the root is part of the problem, or whoever had rooted it previously possibly messed it up somehow.
I'm wondering if it would be better to unroot the device and start clean, or if downloading a new ROM for it might help fix that issue. The device was supposedly factory reset as it left the seller, and was also reset through the recovery from poweroff mode. I am not sure what has been done to the device so I'm a little hesitant to proceed, but here are the stats that I have if they are any help:
android version is 4.0.4
build number imm76d.xxLPL
kernel: [email protected]#3 SMP PREEMPT mon jun 25 22:02:05kst 2012
Thank you in advance for anyone with advice on how to proceed with either unrooting/"re"rooting or a good rom recommendation to help get this thing in working order.
*Rayne
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How do "unroot" device? It's extremely easy to mess things up when doing it, so I'll be somewhat vague hoping that only those with the ability to understand my directions will attempt it: You need to get rid of /system/bin/su (which requires su and remounts to do) and then to uninstall SuperUser. If you don't know how to do this, you will probably be better off restoring a factory image. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367478
The PayPal Here app on Google Play says it's incompatible with all my devices too. That includes my GT-P6210, which I don't think Play can know is rooted -- at least not when I'm accessing Play on my laptop. And the app description says nothing about not running on rooted devices.
IMO you have a couple of options:
Look for the PayPal Here .apk file (Google, this forum, wherever) and see if you can't simply install it on the tab.
Write to the developer and ask if the app is compatible with the tab, if they can change the Play parameters to show it's compatible, or if they can send you the .apk to install directly.
Not to be a spoil sport, but the app description clearly states that it doesn't support tablets. Until PayPal decides to change this, I think you're out of luck.
As for the root issues, I'd personally nuke-and-pave it and take it back to stock ICS then root it myself. Custom ROMs for this tablet aren't quite up to speed yet, despite awesome developer efforts.
When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.
By the way, its no a very good idea to use a pre rooted device, that you bought from internet, to do things related with money and credit card.
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devid801 said:
How do "unroot" device? It's extremely easy to mess things up when doing it, so I'll be somewhat vague hoping that only those with the ability to understand my directions will attempt it: You need to get rid of /system/bin/su (which requires su and remounts to do) and then to uninstall SuperUser. If you don't know how to do this, you will probably be better off restoring a factory image. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367478
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i thought i set this thing to email me new replies, alas i had not received any. but thank you, i actually did go into systems and deleted 3 items from the system and data folder, as i read from another senior member here on xda. i still think it is giving me issues though, samsung wont allow it to update correctly, so i think a factory image would be the best, however i do not know where to find one. i just want to get it back to factory, or updated with a new rom so it stops acting weird.. thank you for your help.
SlackOne said:
Not to be a spoil sport, but the app description clearly states that it doesn't support tablets. Until PayPal decides to change this, I think you're out of luck.
As for the root issues, I'd personally nuke-and-pave it and take it back to stock ICS then root it myself. Custom ROMs for this tablet aren't quite up to speed yet, despite awesome developer efforts.
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Thank you i actually had went to paypals site and checked compatibility shortly after this post lol, found that out, and had facepalm moment. guess i assumed since it was like a giant phone on the same os it would work, since they advertise it being used on tablets and stuff. or maybe im thinking the intuit. i can wait on that though, im sure its coming at some point. can still use on my phone

Root it or not.

I am in big dilemma; either to root my tab or not.
There is no bloatware to remove and I dont want to play with it with custom roms like I do in my phone.
But I want to install different launcher which need su power to fix widgets.
So should I root it or not I am soooo much confused.
Sorry I can't answer that for you. I was about to ask the same question but in a slightly different form. This is my first tab ( a tab isn't worth getting if it doesn't have an active digitizer ), and I would like to know whether or not to root. The way I see it is that it breaks down into two lists: pros and cons, which I think is also the way you want to look at it. So aside from a custom rom, what are the pros and cons of rooting your Note?
All I want is different launcher with su power. . Touch wiz is silly. Dont let me resize all widgets and eat my all space.
With out root I cant place widgets on home screen in different launcher.
bikrame said:
I am in big dilemma; either to root my tab or not.
There is no bloatware to remove and I dont want to play with it with custom roms like I do in my phone.
But I want to install different launcher which need su power to fix widgets.
So should I root it or not I am soooo much confused.
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I'm in the same dire dilemma...
Root Pros:
Many very useful apps require root to access the inner system settings
It allows to see what's behind the curtains of one's Android device (browse and see system files and settings) and (slowly) learn how does it work
Root Cons:
The device can loose its immaculate "official" status, loose the warranty and the OTA updates.
Some app (mainly apps dealing with media contents and concerned with possible copyright infringements) may stop working if they detect a rooted device, by means of the binary counter, that could anyhow be zeroed with "Triangle Away", or by the mere presence of the SuperUser (SuperSU) app.
The ideal way would be to root but, at the same time, being able to completely hide the rooted status of the device; both for Samsung warranty and Ota updates and for those apps that stop working if they "sniff" a rooted device... but I think that's not possible yet...
I find rooting a device also plugs a lot of security exploits too...
If you're able to, taking back to stock is fairly easy but that can be a BIG if sometimes....
Overall I find having root is a big "+". It allows me touse my device how I want and plugs those holes left by Google/Samsung in their OS.
Each person should evaluate if they need to or not but I find it a lot better to root simply for peace of mind... at least if I get a virus that destroys my tab , I'm the one who gave it root access... The blame is mine other than the tab dies mysteriously one day..
Rooting was super simple with the exynos exploit apk, if you didn't update. I rooted using that apk, then used the same developer's MobileOdin app to update while keeping root. For me, I'd say that rooting is very useful on this tablet because you can also enable multiwindow for every single app, something you won't have without rooting..
asdfuogh said:
For me, I'd say that rooting is very useful on this tablet because you can also enable multiwindow for every single app, something you won't have without rooting..
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I thought you got that with JB?
JB only have a few apps added to have multiwindows then ICS...but if you root you can use multiwindow manager to add multiwindows ability to all apps.
Also adds the ability to freeze unwanted apps, backup OS in case of bad things happening (settings, OS and user data) and to truly set things up as you, the owner and user, want...
Allows 3rd party tracking apps like cerberus to track and remotely wipe sensitive data in case tablet goes missing not to mention turn on GPS to track and get pics of person using it.
In my view worth it for Titanium Backup Pro and Nandroid backup .
Warranty void easy enough to put that right .
OTA updates don't work not a problem this is after all XDA .
jje
I don't see the confusion on your part. It's a simple decision imo. You want an ability to do something that can only be done with root. Just because you root, doesn't mean you have to customize in any other way.
As far as OTA's go that should be a non–issue as well since they are mostly a joke as far as improvement in any significant way. Everything they have is readily available here on XDA and more often than not sooner.
bikrame said:
All I want is different launcher with su power. . Touch wiz is silly. Dont let me resize all widgets and eat my all space.
With out root I cant place widgets on home screen in different launcher.
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Forgive me if I haven't totally understood what you want.....but you can install any launcher you want without rooting. I have Go Launcher, it allows me to resize Widgets etc.
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Markhypnosis said:
Forgive me if I haven't totally understood what you want.....but you can install any launcher you want without rooting. I have Go Launcher, it allows me to resize Widgets etc.
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Yeah. Do u really need root just to change launcher?
Unless u need it for other reason, I don't think root is needed just for changing the launcher.
But if u want root access, then yes, ur device need to be rooted.
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Yup I got that guys. Thank you.
I tried long time ago and it didnt work. Now it does
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sphere314 said:
...The ideal way would be to root but, at the same time, being able to completely hide the rooted status of the device; both for Samsung warranty and Ota updates and for those apps that stop working if they "sniff" a rooted device... but I think that's not possible yet...
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A new possible solution for some Samsung devices is here.
I haven't tried it yet, but, according to the thread posts it seems that:
it can preserve the official status and the binary counter
there's an "unroot" option, so that, if some apps sniffs the rooted status and stops working, you can temporarily unroot and have it work again
If anyone has actually tried it on the GNote 10.1, his comments will be appreciated.
Backup apps and data without root
JJEgan said:
In my view worth it for Titanium Backup Pro and Nandroid backup .
Warranty void easy enough to put that right .
OTA updates don't work not a problem this is after all XDA .
jje
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You all know that there is a new backup program that does not need root to backup apps and app data.
Its called "Carbon - App Sync and Backup" by ClockworkMod
Here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It works great.
sphere314 said:
A new possible solution for some Samsung devices is here.
I haven't tried it yet, but, according to the thread posts it seems that:
it can preserve the official status and the binary counter
there's an "unroot" option, so that, if some apps sniffs the rooted status and stops working, you can temporarily unroot and have it work again
If anyone has actually tried it on the GNote 10.1, his comments will be appreciated.
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kkretch said:
You all know that there is a new backup program that does not need root to backup apps and app data.
Its called "Carbon - App Sync and Backup" by ClockworkMod
Here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It works great.
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I've tried them both and I'm really satisfied with the results.
1) before trying the Framaroot app I used Carbon backup to make a full backup of all my apps data (without root).
2) after that, being confident enough I could restore back my tablet apps data (in case something went wrong), I used the Framaroot app to get root.
Result:
1) I could backup my app's data before rooting
2) With Framaroot I have now root access. Anyway, the most important thing is that my device status has remained "Official" (1) and the binary counter is "unchanged" as well!
I wouldn't ever think that it was possible to root a device without having to change the recovery and, by doing so, change the device status/binary counter.
Now I know it's possible
(1) EDIT feb-17-2013
Update: the device status is now "Custom". Yet, after the rooting, I checked and rebooted more than one time. There must be some Android service that checks the presence of root periodically and finds out, sooner or later, if the device is rooted
sphere314 said:
I've tried them both and I'm really satisfied with the results.
1) before trying the Framaroot app I used Carbon backup to make a full backup of all my apps data (without root).
2) after that, being confident enough I could restore back my tablet apps data (in case something went wrong), I used the Framaroot app to get root.
Result:
1) I could backup my app's data before rooting
2) With Framaroot I have now root access. Anyway, et hemost important thing is that my device status has remained "Official" and the binary counter is "unchanged" as well!
I wouldn't ever think that it was possible to root a device without having to change the recovery and, by doing so, change the device status/binary counter.
Now I know it's possible
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Thank you for the info on framaroot. I read the thread you had linked earlier and decided to try it out on my old Archos 101 gen 8 (since the developer indicated he was able to root this device with framaroot) before attempting to install it on my note. Needless to say, it didn't work on the Archos (tried it twice) and I ended up having to reformat both times because the tablet got stuck in a boot loop. Was installation really that smooth on your note and can you confirm that you're running JB 4.1.2 not 4.1.1 (saw your post in the framaroot thread).
mke1973 said:
Thank you for the info on framaroot. I read the thread you had linked earlier and decided to try it out on my old Archos 101 gen 8 (since the developer indicated he was able to root this device with framaroot) before attempting to install it on my note. Needless to say, it didn't work on the Archos (tried it twice) and I ended up having to reformat both times because the tablet got stuck in a boot loop. Was installation really that smooth on your note and can you confirm that you're running JB 4.1.2 not 4.1.1 (saw your post in the framaroot thread).
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As I said in the other thread I'm not 100% sure about JB 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.
All I'm sure of is that the firmware code is N8000XXCLL3-N8000ITVCLL1
According to Sammobile it is 4.1.1 but according to Samsung-updates it is 4.1.2. In the tablet, in the "Settings - About device" page the Android version reported is 4.1.2.
Since I'm now rooted maybe I could find out the real Android version (beneath Samsung's touchwiz) by having a quick look at some of the system file... if anyone could tell me where to look .
Anyway I can confirm that my rooting process was really smooth, that it took less than a minute and that my Note's Status has stayed "Official". (1)
Probably I was just lucky or the firmware I had on the GNote 10.1 is one of those with which Framaroot works ok.
(1) EDIT feb-17-2013
Update: the device status is now "Custom". Yet, after the rooting, I checked and rebooted more than one time. There must be some Android service that checks the presence of root periodically and finds out, sooner or later, if the device is rooted
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As I said in the other thread I'm not 100% sure about JB 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.
All I'm sure of is that the firmware code is N8000XXCLL3-N8000ITVCLL1
According to Sammobile it is 4.1.1 but according to Samsung-updates it is 4.1.2. In the tablet, in the "Settings - About device" page the Android version reported is 4.1.2.
Since I'm now rooted maybe I could find out the real Android version (beneath Samsung's touchwiz) by having a quick look at some of the system file... if anyone could tell me where to look .
Anyway I can confirm that my rooting process was really smooth, that it took less than a minute and that my Note's Status has stayed "Official".
Probably I was just lucky or the firmware I had on the GNote 10.1 is one of those with which Framaroot works ok.
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Thank you. I may wait to see if other note users with JB 4.1.2 report success with Framaroot before I try it on my note since I had issues with a device that the developer had been able to root with his program. Even though I've backed up with Carbon, I don't care to deal with my note stuck in a virtual boot loop. I appreciate you pointing out Framaroot I hadn't seen the thread on it.

What is the latest Root Method for SM-P900 us version?

Looking through many post, all of them seem rather old, Im finally ready to root my tablet, Im tired of all of the lag I get and it seems as Samsung has let the 12.2 pro die.
Im running 5.02
Build: LRX22G.P900UEU1COL1
Kernel: 3.4.39-5574008
Knox: 2.3
I found this post by dwl99 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/success-rooting-sm-p900-knox-0x0-t3377416
It seem only one person has tried it
Thanks for any input you may have
I'm not sure if you found your answer, but if you're willing to trip KNOX, I was able to root my p900 US version on 5.0.2 by using the method in the post found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/guide-install-official-lollipop-p900-t3154362
Thanks
I will check it out, I dont care about Knox at this point since Samsung has let this tablet die
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I will check it out, I dont care about Knox at this point since Samsung has let this tablet die
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Yep. My faith in Samsung hardware is hit or miss, but my faith in them having too many models for them to keep up with is starting to wane.
Anyways, I had no problem getting TWRP on it, and flashing SU. Just follow the post and if it doesn't show up on your computer, try other USB ports. For some reason these samsungs are picky. I had to try three USB ports to get it to register in Odin. After that it was no problem. I verified it with JRummy's tool, and have run other root apps, and it took just fine.
I wasn't able to get xposed working, but that might be an issue with the stock ROM. No big deal though. Backups, moving apps to SD, and such, are all capable with root and TWRP, though it would have been more tidy to have the SD card as an extension of the on-board, I can live without it.
If you need my stock ROM build info it's P900UEU1COI1_P900XAR1COI1 (cellular south). There are two US ones I see available for 5.0.2, and have no idea what the difference is, but that one works fine for me. So if you have to Odin first, or after, that one seemed to go well for my US P900. Use that info at your discretion, because I can't see your current build info.
Thanks for the info
The tablet seem very laggy when on the net lately, Im tired of it
My Build: LRX22G.P900UEU1COL1
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Thanks for the info
The tablet seem very laggy when on the net lately, Im tired of it
My Build: LRX22G.P900UEU1COL1
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Same build here.
Follow the directions carefully (you likely don't need to do the first area as you're already up to date), and you should be all set. Just remember to backup everything important first. Since you already have your info/apps in place, and aren't changing ROMS's, there isn't much to it. Don't forget to do a backup using TWRP after you have everything up and running. You'll want to download busybox from the app store, after you're rooted.
Careful if you decide to go with a custom ROM after. I didn't have much luck with cyanogen mod 13, because it knocked out a lot of my Spen needs, and there are a fair number of reports of random reboots on the one I tried. Hopefully that will change and I can update to 6.0.1 when/if it does.
For you, there shouldn't be a need to wipe data or factory reset, but if the lag continues you may want to wipe your cache's once you have your nandroid backup.
PM me if you run into any issues, or better yet, with any questions you're unsure about, before an issue happens
Will Do Blade, :good:
Thanks
build
Hello. I can't find the files for my build number. Can i use this one instead? ( Yes , I am noob.)
Build no: LRX22G.P900XXU0BPE1

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