Looking through many post, all of them seem rather old, Im finally ready to root my tablet, Im tired of all of the lag I get and it seems as Samsung has let the 12.2 pro die.
Im running 5.02
Build: LRX22G.P900UEU1COL1
Kernel: 3.4.39-5574008
Knox: 2.3
I found this post by dwl99 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/success-rooting-sm-p900-knox-0x0-t3377416
It seem only one person has tried it
Thanks for any input you may have
I'm not sure if you found your answer, but if you're willing to trip KNOX, I was able to root my p900 US version on 5.0.2 by using the method in the post found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/guide-install-official-lollipop-p900-t3154362
Thanks
I will check it out, I dont care about Knox at this point since Samsung has let this tablet die
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I will check it out, I dont care about Knox at this point since Samsung has let this tablet die
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Yep. My faith in Samsung hardware is hit or miss, but my faith in them having too many models for them to keep up with is starting to wane.
Anyways, I had no problem getting TWRP on it, and flashing SU. Just follow the post and if it doesn't show up on your computer, try other USB ports. For some reason these samsungs are picky. I had to try three USB ports to get it to register in Odin. After that it was no problem. I verified it with JRummy's tool, and have run other root apps, and it took just fine.
I wasn't able to get xposed working, but that might be an issue with the stock ROM. No big deal though. Backups, moving apps to SD, and such, are all capable with root and TWRP, though it would have been more tidy to have the SD card as an extension of the on-board, I can live without it.
If you need my stock ROM build info it's P900UEU1COI1_P900XAR1COI1 (cellular south). There are two US ones I see available for 5.0.2, and have no idea what the difference is, but that one works fine for me. So if you have to Odin first, or after, that one seemed to go well for my US P900. Use that info at your discretion, because I can't see your current build info.
Thanks for the info
The tablet seem very laggy when on the net lately, Im tired of it
My Build: LRX22G.P900UEU1COL1
Hitch_Itch said:
Thanks for the info
The tablet seem very laggy when on the net lately, Im tired of it
My Build: LRX22G.P900UEU1COL1
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Same build here.
Follow the directions carefully (you likely don't need to do the first area as you're already up to date), and you should be all set. Just remember to backup everything important first. Since you already have your info/apps in place, and aren't changing ROMS's, there isn't much to it. Don't forget to do a backup using TWRP after you have everything up and running. You'll want to download busybox from the app store, after you're rooted.
Careful if you decide to go with a custom ROM after. I didn't have much luck with cyanogen mod 13, because it knocked out a lot of my Spen needs, and there are a fair number of reports of random reboots on the one I tried. Hopefully that will change and I can update to 6.0.1 when/if it does.
For you, there shouldn't be a need to wipe data or factory reset, but if the lag continues you may want to wipe your cache's once you have your nandroid backup.
PM me if you run into any issues, or better yet, with any questions you're unsure about, before an issue happens
Will Do Blade, :good:
Thanks
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Hello. I can't find the files for my build number. Can i use this one instead? ( Yes , I am noob.)
Build no: LRX22G.P900XXU0BPE1
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Hi people, new to XDA, happy to be here.
I signed up so I could find out what the best/safest method is for rooting my SGS with my specific software version. By best, I mean most efficient, and by safest, I mean a method which retains all my data.
There are so many methods that I really don't know which one to choose. If you wish to simply link me to an existing thread, that's fine.
Attached is a screenshot of my phone's software specs.
Regards,
Nick
P.S When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?
Welcome to XDA!
I do not own a SGS, however i can a\give you some advice. You can try going to the SGS forums to look for tools and guides. Keep in mind that Samsung devices use Odin to change Roms and stuff. Do you want to change your rom or just have root access? Either way you can retain your data by having backups.
You can backup your smses using apps such as sms backup form the market. contacts can be backed up with google.
Here's the SGS forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=665&order=desc
Also check if your version is i9000 or i9003 or any others. Just keep reading up and you'll get the idea
Good luck
Oh and they are refering to baseband. Kernel changes with the different roms.
Thanks for the prompt reply!
What do I do about backing up my apps?
droidoidoid said:
Hi people, new to XDA, happy to be here.
I signed up so I could find out what the best/safest method is for rooting my SGS with my specific software version. By best, I mean most efficient, and by safest, I mean a method which retains all my data.
There are so many methods that I really don't know which one to choose. If you wish to simply link me to an existing thread, that's fine.
Attached is a screenshot of my phone's software specs.
Regards,
Nick
P.S When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?
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i used superoneclick to root my vodafone 845 succesfully it was completely safe i just had to enter bootloader mode and run the .bat file from the pc
here's the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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Thanks for the prompt reply!
What do I do about backing up my apps?
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try titanium backup you can restore/backup all of your apps/system apps
^ Cheers for this! I'm guessing Superoneclick is a program that simplifies the rooting process, but there's less learning involved?
I have Titanium Backup, however the issue is.... it looks as though the phone already has to be rooted for TB to work, but rooting the phone incorrectly could cause data loss if not backed up. Isn't this a catch 22? I could have it wrong though.
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^ Cheers for this! I'm guessing Superoneclick is a program that simplifies the rooting process, but there's less learning involved?
I have Titanium Backup, however the issue is.... it looks as though the phone already has to be rooted for TB to work, but rooting the phone incorrectly could cause data loss if not backed up. Isn't this a catch 22? I could have it wrong though.
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Yes, it simplifies the rooting process. Then again, why not try a custom rom by flashing through odin? Yes, theres a risk of losing your data. Theres a low chance though. good luck
I may as well update you guys.
Well, this is a little more technical than what I first thought, so I decided to do something simple to begin with - I used Odin to flash Gingerbread 2.3.4 into my phone. (I'm guessing you need to root your phone to flash a custom ROM, but not to flash the next version of the default Android OS like I just did, but correct me if I'm wrong here)
Anyway, the results are - I still have my contacts (cause they're on my sim) and media files, but my texts and free apps are gone. Why? Because I wrongly assumed that it would be the same as when I initially upgraded to Gingerbread through Kies (the official way). That is, all data is retained. The thing is, surely anything you download from the Market would be kept in your Google account, but obviously not.
Anyway, now that I have a feel for how Odin works, I'll go ahead do the root, followed by a custom ROM. I won't be using Superoneclick though, I like doing things the complicated way.
(to be honest I am a little pissed that my apps are gone, should've used MyBackupPro, a backup app that doesn't require root, but as always, I stumble upon these when it's too late)
okay then i just suggested you superoneclick because it was the safest and most convinient root method i ve ever used good luck rooting
Yay I'm rooted! Fun times! Didn't brick my phone or anything. Now begins the long journey of customising my phone as to how I want it. I guess a good place to start is to install MIUI.
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Yay I'm rooted! Fun times! Didn't brick my phone or anything. Now begins the long journey of customising my phone as to how I want it. I guess a good place to start is to install MIUI.
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have fun !
In response to my question...
"When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?"
a guy on another forum said...
"They are talking about the Build Number and in your case its JVP. Baseband is your modem which basically is your service,battery life."
This conflicts with what you said about it. Can you clarify this for me?
Cheers
Hello,
First I just wanted to apologize for my ignorance, I'm new to this form, well, forums in general, and the last thread I was unable to reply on, so I figured the only way is to just ask.
I recently received a tab plus model 6210 from ebay, and when it requested updates, they failed. after playing around a while i realized that there was a superuser icon, so it must have been rooted already, but prior to that, I had been having some issues. One of those being some apps crashing.
Another issue, which is currently one of my primary issues is my inability to use my Paypal Here App which includes a credit card reader, because when I attempt to re-download my app from the market, it says it's incompatible. That I don't quite understand. It's running ICS 4.0.4 as is my unrooted galaxy S2 on sprint, and I am able to run it on my phone. This was one of the major factors in my purchase of the tablet, to be able to better conduct business but I'm thinking maybe the root is part of the problem, or whoever had rooted it previously possibly messed it up somehow.
I'm wondering if it would be better to unroot the device and start clean, or if downloading a new ROM for it might help fix that issue. The device was supposedly factory reset as it left the seller, and was also reset through the recovery from poweroff mode. I am not sure what has been done to the device so I'm a little hesitant to proceed, but here are the stats that I have if they are any help:
android version is 4.0.4
build number imm76d.xxLPL
kernel: [email protected]#3 SMP PREEMPT mon jun 25 22:02:05kst 2012
Thank you in advance for anyone with advice on how to proceed with either unrooting/"re"rooting or a good rom recommendation to help get this thing in working order.
*Rayne
I wouldn't unroot the tab.
I would enter CWM and wipe cache, then factory reset.
Be sure you have latest 6.0.1.0 CWM installed before you reset.
Good luck!
Sent from my GT-P6200 using xda app-developers app
just.rayne said:
Hello,
First I just wanted to apologize for my ignorance, I'm new to this form, well, forums in general, and the last thread I was unable to reply on, so I figured the only way is to just ask.
I recently received a tab plus model 6210 from ebay, and when it requested updates, they failed. after playing around a while i realized that there was a superuser icon, so it must have been rooted already, but prior to that, I had been having some issues. One of those being some apps crashing.
Another issue, which is currently one of my primary issues is my inability to use my Paypal Here App which includes a credit card reader, because when I attempt to re-download my app from the market, it says it's incompatible. That I don't quite understand. It's running ICS 4.0.4 as is my unrooted galaxy S2 on sprint, and I am able to run it on my phone. This was one of the major factors in my purchase of the tablet, to be able to better conduct business but I'm thinking maybe the root is part of the problem, or whoever had rooted it previously possibly messed it up somehow.
I'm wondering if it would be better to unroot the device and start clean, or if downloading a new ROM for it might help fix that issue. The device was supposedly factory reset as it left the seller, and was also reset through the recovery from poweroff mode. I am not sure what has been done to the device so I'm a little hesitant to proceed, but here are the stats that I have if they are any help:
android version is 4.0.4
build number imm76d.xxLPL
kernel: [email protected]#3 SMP PREEMPT mon jun 25 22:02:05kst 2012
Thank you in advance for anyone with advice on how to proceed with either unrooting/"re"rooting or a good rom recommendation to help get this thing in working order.
*Rayne
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How do "unroot" device? It's extremely easy to mess things up when doing it, so I'll be somewhat vague hoping that only those with the ability to understand my directions will attempt it: You need to get rid of /system/bin/su (which requires su and remounts to do) and then to uninstall SuperUser. If you don't know how to do this, you will probably be better off restoring a factory image. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367478
The PayPal Here app on Google Play says it's incompatible with all my devices too. That includes my GT-P6210, which I don't think Play can know is rooted -- at least not when I'm accessing Play on my laptop. And the app description says nothing about not running on rooted devices.
IMO you have a couple of options:
Look for the PayPal Here .apk file (Google, this forum, wherever) and see if you can't simply install it on the tab.
Write to the developer and ask if the app is compatible with the tab, if they can change the Play parameters to show it's compatible, or if they can send you the .apk to install directly.
Not to be a spoil sport, but the app description clearly states that it doesn't support tablets. Until PayPal decides to change this, I think you're out of luck.
As for the root issues, I'd personally nuke-and-pave it and take it back to stock ICS then root it myself. Custom ROMs for this tablet aren't quite up to speed yet, despite awesome developer efforts.
When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.
By the way, its no a very good idea to use a pre rooted device, that you bought from internet, to do things related with money and credit card.
Enviado de meu GT-P6210 usando o Tapatalk 2
devid801 said:
How do "unroot" device? It's extremely easy to mess things up when doing it, so I'll be somewhat vague hoping that only those with the ability to understand my directions will attempt it: You need to get rid of /system/bin/su (which requires su and remounts to do) and then to uninstall SuperUser. If you don't know how to do this, you will probably be better off restoring a factory image. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367478
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i thought i set this thing to email me new replies, alas i had not received any. but thank you, i actually did go into systems and deleted 3 items from the system and data folder, as i read from another senior member here on xda. i still think it is giving me issues though, samsung wont allow it to update correctly, so i think a factory image would be the best, however i do not know where to find one. i just want to get it back to factory, or updated with a new rom so it stops acting weird.. thank you for your help.
SlackOne said:
Not to be a spoil sport, but the app description clearly states that it doesn't support tablets. Until PayPal decides to change this, I think you're out of luck.
As for the root issues, I'd personally nuke-and-pave it and take it back to stock ICS then root it myself. Custom ROMs for this tablet aren't quite up to speed yet, despite awesome developer efforts.
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Thank you i actually had went to paypals site and checked compatibility shortly after this post lol, found that out, and had facepalm moment. guess i assumed since it was like a giant phone on the same os it would work, since they advertise it being used on tablets and stuff. or maybe im thinking the intuit. i can wait on that though, im sure its coming at some point. can still use on my phone
Hey guy I recently got a Galaxy Note 10.1, the Wi-Fi only version (N8010 I think?). I really want to get Jelly Bean on it as soon as possible. I know there are a ton of ROMS out there for the Wi-Fi/3G version and most people who have flashed those onto the Wi-Fi only version have been successful. I just had a few questions for you guys as I'm still a noob at this.
1. Do I have to root my tablet to be able to flash a ROM on it?
2. Is there a chance of bricking the tablet? Is there any danger involved?
3. Will I still get OTA updates when they become available?
4. Anyone have instructions on how to flash Jelly Bean onto it?
5. Where could I find ROMS that will work with my tablet?
Thank you guys for taking the time to answer. If any of you have any experience with the Wi-Fi only version let me know. Also I live in the US if that is of any importance.
The U.S. version of wifi only is the 8013. It is what I have. There is always a risk involved with everything you do, even breathing. Every breath you take you take the risk it is not poision and feel the benefits of not suficating our weigh the risk of being poisoned.
For flashing the roms on here you need a custom recovery, like cwm. There are guides on this in the development area. Darkman-rs has some very good stuff out. I have some stuff for the 8013 as well. Check out everything, get a good feel, make a backup of your stuff, like apps, nand backups, copy your internal memory to something else, whatever else you feel like doing. One day when you have nothing going on, sit around and play with things, talk to the google machine about stuff. I have done a lot to this tablet, nothing I couldnt recover from. Always have a backup on your external sd card just in case, like an extra sd card in case you wipe the one in your tablet
Oh, and have fun!
Also, the thread for the roms should have the info on installing.
i am using @smaw51 jb uk release custom gt 8013 version and its very smooth rom really love it and there is a thread on how to add more apps to the multiwindow launcher which makes this tablet even more amazing
follow the guides on how to root and install cwm recovery and then start flashing and enjoy this beast tablet ...lol
I have recently rooted my 8010 using "method 2" do you have to unlock the bootloader too before you can use a new kernel (I know there isn't any for my model yet) . I just haven't seen much mention of bootloader unlocking
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Can you go to Settings > About device and see what your build number ends in? If it's LG4 then you will be getting Jelly Bean through Kies within a week.
Hey guys, thank you for all of the useful information. I honestly can't go into my settings right now because I don't have it yet. I bought it but am only getting it this weekend for my birthday. Then I'll be able to give you information about my device. What is the LG version?
Yes
Yes
Most likely not
Check the development thread
Check the development thread
CWM is super easy to install and obtain root (this was my first time using ODIN for anything). Simply follow the directions here (especially the part about turning Auto Reboot off): http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...t-galaxy-note-10-1-easiest-methodcwmmethod-2/
As for installing JB, I've got the 8010 version and I had no problem installing the older German version found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909950&page=9 along with the build prop fix here (which eliminates the random reboot issues): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909950&page=9
And once all that is done, don't forget to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985240 for all your Multi-Window app goodness!!
Thank you for those links Rickroller! They are extremely helpful!
Anytime!
Was anyone able to use chainfire3D on JB?
Is this normal?
I've avoided Lollipop this while time because of all the storage crap, but it has too many features for the shield I can't go without.
I'd hate to have to reflash from scratch (for the 100th time), this thing wipes data like it's nothing.
Let me know if you guys have any insight.
Thanks.
Nevermind
Reflashed from scratch.
It almost makes no sense to mod this thing. You can't get OTAs.
Every time you flash you have to wipe.
I almost don't want to start modding again in fear that I'll lose a function and have to start over again...
Gootah said:
Reflashed from scratch.
It almost makes no sense to mod this thing. You can't get OTAs.
Every time you flash you have to wipe.
I almost don't want to start modding again in fear that I'll lose a function and have to start over again...
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You know you can flash OTA's when rooted... So you don't have to wipe.
For example, let's say your rooted and on the latest 2.2.1. If 2.3 comes out, you just flash the 2.3 OTA in TWRP or CWM, and do NOT have to wipe data.
THIS link has all the OTA's, along with a bunch of other useful things.
FoxyDrew said:
You know you can flash the incremental OTA's... So you don't have to wipe.
For example, let's say your rooted and on the latest 2.2.1. If 2.3 comes out, you just flash the 2.2.1 - 2.3 incremental update in TWRP or CWM, and do NOT have to wipe data.
THIS link has all the incremental OTA's, along with a bunch of other useful things.
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Don't mean to step on your toes @FoxyDrew, but I believe you meant full OTAs. Incremental OTAs check the device version and report the wrong thing (if rooted), however full OTAs don't give two sh!t$ on what your build number is lol. You are correct however in that OTAs of any nature do not wipe a thing besides your rooted status.
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Don't mean to step on your toes @FoxyDrew, but I believe you meant full OTAs. Incremental OTAs check the device version and report the wrong thing (if rooted), however full OTAs don't give two sh!t$ on what your build number is lol. You are correct however in that OTAs of any nature do not wipe a thing besides your rooted status.
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Woops haha, was late when I posted that ;-;
BTW thanks for that thread, has saved my butt a few times and definitely helped when I was new to the tablet.
Thanks for replying guys.
The base of what I'm saying is that this is the most temperamental device I've ever had to maintain.
Even more so than my S4 with it's random kernel rejections (WiFi sometime doesn't work when swapping ROMs).
Another issues I have is pulling the OTAs. I hate waiting from a random contributor to post the link to the full OTA FOR me.
Then I have to worry about whether there's a root method for it afterward, so frustrating.
Seriously considering just going CM12+Limelight.
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Woops haha, was late when I posted that ;-;
BTW thanks for that thread, has saved my butt a few times and definitely helped when I was new to the tablet.
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Yea man, no worries. That's what the thread is for haha
Gootah said:
Thanks for replying guys.
The base of what I'm saying is that this is the most temperamental device I've ever had to maintain.
Even more so than my S4 with it's random kernel rejections (WiFi sometime doesn't work when swapping ROMs).
Another issues I have is pulling the OTAs. I hate waiting from a random contributor to post the link to the full OTA FOR me.
Then I have to worry about whether there's a root method for it afterward, so frustrating.
Seriously considering just going CM12+Limelight.
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I understand your complaints with this device. It's been buggy since release day, however I will say that the amount of hiccups per week has gone down to maybe 1 or 2 with 5.0.1.
Regarding OTAs - the thread that FoxyDrew posted (the thread that I maintain) will always have new OTAs and recovery images posted within a day. I'd recommend subscribing to that thread so you know when I post the new OTAs/recovery images. That is, as long as you're fine with waiting up to a day for the update. If not, maybe CM12 is right for you.
As for the root method, rooting has been as simple as flashing a zip file from recovery. It's been like that for quite awhile now. As long as there isn't some major change to the software, it should continue to be that simple for the lifespan of this device.
Hey man, custom ROMs may be the thing for you if you really hate stock android on this tablet. Give it a try and see what you like the best. Just know that there are solutions to almost every problem that you have stated, you just gotta dig around a little bit. If you do end up sticking with the stock ROM, be sure to bookmark that thread as it will make your life a hell of a lot easier
Gootah said:
Thanks for replying guys.
The base of what I'm saying is that this is the most temperamental device I've ever had to maintain.
Even more so than my S4 with it's random kernel rejections (WiFi sometime doesn't work when swapping ROMs).
Another issues I have is pulling the OTAs. I hate waiting from a random contributor to post the link to the full OTA FOR me.
Then I have to worry about whether there's a root method for it afterward, so frustrating.
Seriously considering just going CM12+Limelight.
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I personally run CM12.1. Best thing ever for this tablet in my opinion. Fixed the sluggishness of Lollipop that people had, and only con is lack of some Nvidia features, although Nvidia Hub and Grid Gaming still work just fine along with other things (the lack of the button mapper sucks most for me). Anyways before I start sounding like I'm being paid to promote CM, I recommend you make a nandroid, try it, and then if you hate it just flash back.
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I personally run CM12.1. Best thing ever for this tablet in my opinion. Fixed the sluggishness of Lollipop that people had, and only con is lack of some Nvidia features, although Nvidia Hub and Grid Gaming still work just fine along with other things (the lack of the button mapper sucks most for me). Anyways before I start sounding like I'm being paid to promote CM, I recommend you make a nandroid, try it, and then if you hate it just flash back.
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MidgetMob said:
Yea man, no worries. That's what the thread is for haha
I understand your complaints with this device. It's been buggy since release day, however I will say that the amount of hiccups per week has gone down to maybe 1 or 2 with 5.0.1.
Regarding OTAs - the thread that FoxyDrew posted (the thread that I maintain) will always have new OTAs and recovery images posted within a day. I'd recommend subscribing to that thread so you know when I post the new OTAs/recovery images. That is, as long as you're fine with waiting up to a day for the update. If not, maybe CM12 is right for you.
As for the root method, rooting has been as simple as flashing a zip file from recovery. It's been like that for quite awhile now. As long as there isn't some major change to the software, it should continue to be that simple for the lifespan of this device.
Hey man, custom ROMs may be the thing for you if you really hate stock android on this tablet. Give it a try and see what you like the best. Just know that there are solutions to almost every problem that you have stated, you just gotta dig around a little bit. If you do end up sticking with the stock ROM, be sure to bookmark that thread as it will make your life a hell of a lot easier
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Collectively you guys have outlined why this is a complicated decision. The button mapper gives my life meaning!
And I bought it for the Nvidia apps!
I think I'll just come to terms with the fact that this device just requires more time than most.
Maybe I'll commit to doing nandroid>clean flash/recovery flash via thread mentioned above>restore data if necessary.
I can never get a clean flash out of this device. I flashed 4.0->5.0, got a black screen.
Flashed 5.0->5.0.1, internal storage not working.
The only thing thas has been working is full clean flash via Fastboot and as far as root, finding the right ZIP I guess.
The one from Chainfire's site never works for me, but some on the forums do.
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
nafeasonto said:
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
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Your question has been asked by many people on multiple forums. Samsung's flagship is great as is, however the software has a few bugs that bother everyone which is why we root. Samsung built knox so there products would appeal to corporate customers. That is why it exists. To say there are no custom firm wares is false. Just read the development forums. Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
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I obtained root just to prove to myself it can be done. It is not the most important thing In the world. That said, I do understand your perspective. I appreciate the root apps and custom ROMs, and each year root access I harder and harder. Even without root you can appreciate any android device
I stopped rooting just because my Barclay's bank app doesn't work on rooted phones and it's very convenient for me. Also stock android got a lot better and I like it as it is. Also you have theme engines build it now so you can customize your phone without rooting. All that said of course there is some exceptional cases that root is needed, like recently with the new S6 there is no option to choose 2G only network mode on stock rom and I don't know if there is a no root solution for it
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
Two years ago I would not have dreamed of using an unrooted Android phone, but Android has come a long way now. I have been using my old Note 3 and my current S6 unrooted and I'm not missing root at all. Most of the reasons why I would root are available now without root.
I also enjoy unprecendented stability on my phones. No more flashing untested amateur stuff that fixes one thing and breaks 10 other things. So the answer to your question for me is, no, it's not worth rooting anymore.
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-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
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I appreciate your response. I have been looking at the development forums. I've been reading all kinds of threads and I guess I just find it daunting. I'm kind of in my own head about how I'm going to do all this and it SEEMS there are so many restrictions on what will work with what (moreso than used to be), incompatibilities and laser-focused restrictions.
I typically feel confident about these things, but when I start reading the various threads, I feel like a n00b. I have to ask because, as you've seen here, I convinced myself out of the possibility of rooting.
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Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Good to know. Possibly. Thing is, I haven't activated my phone yet (and I just got it 5 hours ago) because I know it will deactivate my old one and I'm still doing Titanium Backup to Dropbox. And I'm just incredibly terrified that I will lose the ability to do something that requires my old phone to be active. I don't actually know what that would be, but that's just me.
So, I don't know what variant I have yet. I will report back on that. I should be ready to activate by tomorrow morning.
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
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And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
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I do not like to ever use the word 'idiot' on XDA.
Newbie is the more appropriate word to use on these forums since 'idiot' is disrespectful.
Also, you sound more like the kinda guy who is not new to Android, just new to the Galaxy S6.
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Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
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KNOX & many other apps can be made non-functioning with the Google Playstore app:
"Package Disabler Pro".
It is very easy to follow or change any of their suggested recommendations.
Settings can be saved or restorded to or from .xml files. Password protection is possible.
Worthwhile.
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
hamstrman said:
Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
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Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Snowby123 said:
Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
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No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
Found this on rooting the sprint s6
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/27/install-twrp-recovery-root-sprint-galaxy-s6-g920p/
hamstrman said:
No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
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This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
hamstrman said:
This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
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Since your build number is for the Sprint variant, downgrade to the earliest build there is for the sprint variant.
If it is listed on the PingPongRoot thread, install it. The one you just mentioned looks like the one to use. Try it.
An update: Worked beautifully. Laterally changed my build from G920PVPU1AOC9 to G920PVPU1AOCF - success!
Installed PingPongRoot - success!
And everything followed... Titanium Backup, Lucky Patcher, etc.
Last part is kind of important, though. Tried to install Modded Google Play Store. Failed. Did research and found out I need Xposed to install it.
So I install Xposed (I already had a backup). It tells me my framework is outdated. So I do some more digging and find out I need a special version of Xposed for Lollipop, which I get and install. There's a .zip that I have to flash via recovery in order to make Xposed work which would make Lucky Patcher work which would make the Store work.
Flashing the zip requires TWRP or CWM recovery. Can I install either of those without tripping KNOX? This is getting way too complicated. I mean, logically, I would think that since I have PingPongRoot already, that I'm good.