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[Q] Is anyone getting operating lag?

The OS seems to be lagging. It could be the hardware or maybe its the infancy stages of Honeycomb, but not a single thing on the TF is smooth.
-Switching home screens lags
-Playing Angry Birds lags
-Window animations lag
[Q] Is anyone else getting these problems?
It kind of hinders the experience, and for industry leading specs, the performance is quite poor.

The only lag I've noticed so far is with the keyboard input on web pages.

denverseven said:
The OS seems to be lagging. It could be the hardware or maybe its the infancy stages of Honeycomb, but not a single thing on the TF is smooth.
-Switching home screens lags
-Playing Angry Birds lags
-Window animations lag
[Q] Is anyone else getting these problems?
It kind of hinders the experience, and for industry leading specs, the performance is quite poor.
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Have you tried using Advance Task Killer to kill background running apps or processes? This helps me when I experienced any lags.

I have never experienced lag on Angry Birds, but then again you may be running more apps than me.

denverseven said:
The OS seems to be lagging. It could be the hardware or maybe its the infancy stages of Honeycomb, but not a single thing on the TF is smooth.
-Switching home screens lags
-Playing Angry Birds lags
-Window animations lag
[Q] Is anyone else getting these problems?
It kind of hinders the experience, and for industry leading specs, the performance is quite poor.
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I experienced this a few days after I got my tablet. It ended up being an app/widget I had installed off of the market called weather3d. As soon as I tracked the problem down and uninstalled the app, it was smooth again. Kind of scary how much a wonky/non honeycomb tested app can destroy the performance of your device.

jimbob1971 said:
I have never experienced lag on Angry Birds, but then again you may be running more apps than me.
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I checked out my memory usage, at the moment the tablet is telling me I am using 157 mb and have 353 mb of Ram left.

evensen007 said:
I experienced this a few days after I got my tablet. It ended up being an app/widget I had installed off of the market called weather3d. As soon as I tracked the problem down and uninstalled the app, it was smooth again. Kind of scary how much a wonky/non honeycomb tested app can destroy the performance of your device.
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Unfortunately, it was lagging out of the box. I was showing it off to my sister and she's like "what are you trying to show me, the sketchy transitions?"
Maybe its all the widgets? I have all the stock ones including calendar, youtube, android market, and browser widgets

Mine is laggy too especially during home screen transitions using the HC launcher. It is noticeable especially if you are coming from an iPad. I have read that 3.1 fixes these problems and transitions are silky smooth with no lag. I'm currently using Launcher Pro with 1 home screen since I don't use widgets and I like to keep all my apps on one screen. This seems to save on RAM and makes app switching smoother.

denverseven said:
Unfortunately, it was lagging out of the box. I was showing it off to my sister and she's like "what are you trying to show me, the sketchy transitions?"
Maybe its all the widgets? I have all the stock ones including calendar, youtube, android market, and browser widgets
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I have all of the stock widgets and then some. Runs as fast as any other tab I've seen including if ad. I'm also running the newer firmware 8.2.3.9.

evensen007 said:
I have all of the stock widgets and then some. Runs as fast as any other tab I've seen including if ad. I'm also running the newer firmware 8.2.3.9.
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How much RAM is everyone getting. My tablet is reading out 185 mb being used and 380 mb free, so a total of 565 mb.
I know the tablet is supposed to have 1 gb of RAM.

Turn the Live Wallpaper off.

denverseven said:
How much RAM is everyone getting. My tablet is reading out 185 mb being used and 380 mb free, so a total of 565 mb.
I know the tablet is supposed to have 1 gb of RAM.
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that's shared memory (with video)

atxer said:
Turn the Live Wallpaper off.
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I don't have live wallpaper. Plus, if I did, isn't it supposed to handle it?

I was getting lag with the default launcher, right now using VTL Launcher and its much better. I am getting lag with the browser (default) but with the debug tweak pages are loading much faster then before but theres times when it does lag. Was getting lag with the asus keyboard and just the android one and its much better.

Like any techsupport would ask:
what have u loaded on-the-job tablet? And don't say nothing because everyone loads at least one thing on a new tablet.
Have u tried to remove all installed apps (and Flash-bet u installed that)?
Have u rooted it yet?
Have u tried to root it yet?
Have u attempted/completed any firmware upgrades?
Are u using a dock?
Have u tried it without the dock?
Have u tried a hard reboot (hold power button for 12-15 secs?

i get panel transition lags when i set some live wallpapers
stock, no root, with latest firmware

If u want no lag and and want to use as many widgets with out system lagging do this
1 download ADW ex in market
2 go to adw setting and go to general behavior,animations and effects, transition effect and select *Curve ( I've tryed all pf them and some reason curve has the best fluid swiping)
4 make sure wallpaper scrolling is disabled
5 set desktop bounce to 15
6 set scrolling to 230
This is my way of a lag free life.
Also turn off alm the gestures there not needed
Ill do a video of before and after soon

You are correct...that really made my home screens fly!

unknown_owner said:
Like any techsupport would ask:
what have u loaded on-the-job tablet? And don't say nothing because everyone loads at least one thing on a new tablet.
Have u tried to remove all installed apps (and Flash-bet u installed that)?
Have u rooted it yet?
Have u tried to root it yet?
Have u attempted/completed any firmware upgrades?
Are u using a dock?
Have u tried it without the dock?
Have u tried a hard reboot (hold power button for 12-15 secs?
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-First thing out of the box: lag from scrolling. Then got flash, still lagging
-then got Angry Birds
-then got other android apps
-Not rooted, haven't tried
-just got notice of available firmware update today, will do after battery charges past 50
-No dock
-hard reboot did help a touch
I think I will try to restore it factory settings first, then runnig the firware upgrade, then getting flash. Will post results

Good News! I restored the tablet to factory settings and actually restored it from backup after that. Here is what I have noticed:
-The tablet is working much faster now, with no appreciable lag. Still some tiny amounts here and there but totally forgivable
-The preloaded music (4 songs) was gone. I think this means that before the ship the tablet they preload it with random software. So now its all gone, and whatever was causing the slow down before is gone now as well.
-I restored from back up so I have all my apps back as well as flash and it works perfect
-Also, the Asus keyboard no longer lags! Which is great because I like it better than the Android one. So if anyone wants to use the Asus keyboard without lag, just reset your tablet to factory settings.
Thanks for all the help everyone, I will still try Cowballz69 idea to speed it up even more

Hardware acceleration at Launchers

Guys, I know NOTHING about any kind of programing, development or Android.
I am experiencing it for less than a month! (And I loved it)
The only downside from ipad2 (Yeah.. I said it) is feel of GUI.
I read a lot of xda and rooted my device, loaded clockwork, installed tiamat 1.4.4 and clocked it to 1.6 (interactive), and loaded Launcher pro.
So I think it is as far as I can get close to THAT feeling of smoothness.
In my last week of massive Googling I found out that at Android 3.x,
there is 2d hardware acceleration for apps that have the proper code. And GUI is not using it currently.
Is it possible to write down a Launcher app that have actual 2D Hardware Acceleration at GUI?
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

Turkawa said:
Guys, I know NOTHING about any kind of programing, development or Android.
I am experiencing it for less than a month! (And I loved it)
The only downside from ipad2 (Yeah.. I said it) is feel of GUI.
I read a lot of xda and rooted my device, loaded clockwork, installed tiamat 1.4.4 and clocked it to 1.6 (interactive), and loaded Launcher pro.
So I think it is as far as I can get close to THAT feeling of smoothness.
In my last week of massive Googling I found out that at Android 3.x,
there is 2d hardware acceleration for apps that have the proper code. And GUI is not using it currently.
Is it possible to write down a Launcher app that have actual 2D Hardware Acceleration at GUI?
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
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Who says the stock launcher has hardware acceleration off? Have you checked the AndroidManifest XML to verify?

ydaraishy said:
Who says the stock launcher has hardware acceleration off? Have you checked the AndroidManifest XML to verify?
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What is that?
I only tell you what I remember from heaps of reading I did..lots of them junk probably..
But it makes sense.
I can play a 3d game flawlessly and my icon jitter and stutter when I scroll from A screen to B screen?
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Here it is..
Romain Guy wrote
" It is not turned on by default for compatibility reasons. Not 100% of the Canvas API is supported when turned on (although the missing parts are very few and rarely used) and there might be bugs in the new implementation. There are also new constraints (for instance if you try to draw a bitmap larger than the maximum OpenGL texture size, it will fail.)
The new rendering pipeline also uses native display lists for each View, which triggers bugs in some apps. For instance, if a View relies on its parent to invalidate() to redraw itself, it's a bug in the app, but it "works" without hardware acceleration. It will however not work with hardware acceleration on.
Our goal is to make hardware acceleration on by default as soon as possible but we do not want to break apps. That said, apps using standard views and APIs should work just fine."
Much more detailed at
hxxp://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/03/android-30-hardware-acceleration.html (cant post links yet)
I dont know If ADW ex or Pro launcher uses 2D_HWA.
But as far as i know both these apps are not optimized for honeycomb yet.
And i hope thats true. Couse if they are, that means thats all we can get from xoom on "Sliding icons" department.

Turkawa said:
Guys, I know NOTHING about any kind of programing, development or Android.
I am experiencing it for less than a month! (And I loved it)
The only downside from ipad2 (Yeah.. I said it) is feel of GUI.
I read a lot of xda and rooted my device, loaded clockwork, installed tiamat 1.4.4 and clocked it to 1.6 (interactive), and loaded Launcher pro.
So I think it is as far as I can get close to THAT feeling of smoothness.
In my last week of massive Googling I found out that at Android 3.x,
there is 2d hardware acceleration for apps that have the proper code. And GUI is not using it currently.
Is it possible to write down a Launcher app that have actual 2D Hardware Acceleration at GUI?
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
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I agree.....UI seems very laggy to me compared to my iPad 1....its not even close to being on the same level of the iPad 2.

[Q] Are there any home launchers with hardware acceleration? (For phones)

Anyone know of any existing home launchers with hardware acceleration? I know ADW and GO do not support hardware acceleration right?

I believe that SPB and Regina 3D use hardware acceleration.

cyansmoker said:
I believe that SPB and Regina 3D use hardware acceleration.
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Regina and spb feel slow while scrolling... they should be faster than go launcher or adw if they are hardware accelerated right?

kryptoner said:
Regina and spb feel slow while scrolling... they should be faster than go launcher or adw if they are hardware accelerated right?
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Yeah, Regina feels a wee bit laggy for a HW accelerated launcher...

Bump, nothing else?

As someone who's looked into this as well, I don't believe there are any. The launcher on the newest Motorola skin (like on the Droid 3) "feels" like it might be hardware accelerated, but it's difficult to tell, and doesn't offer a stutter-free experience, just fancier animations and, again, a different "feel." I also believe the stock GB launcher uses hardware acceleration on some phones like the Nexus S, but again, it's hard to tell.
Unless you're using live wallpapers however, LauncherPro, GO Launcher EX, ADW Launcher EX, and other launchers that allow for ~55/60fps scrolling and are "well coded" should offer consistently responsive and smoothly animated performance.
I think it's a limitation in Android, and developers simply aren't able to access whatever they would need to in order to implement HW acceleration. I haven't been able to get any to comment on it.

^Launcher pro has the 3d app drawer but it feels like it only runs at 30fps or whatever.
However, I have found if you
1. set app drawer to 3d
2. set the fly-in effect for the app drawer to instant
3. now set it to "6" (or 7? Haven't tried, but I know 6 works)
4. now set it back to instant
then go to the app drawer, you'll get into a "buggy" state where the scrolling is BUTTER SMOOTH like it should be. Doesn't have any of the nasty hickups from the garbage collection running in the background on the non-3d-app drawer.

try launcher pro , no need hardwares .

Did you try Regina 3D Launcher?

Another bump, still looking for one.

The tw launcher. But only works for sgs 2.
$1 gets you a reply

i dont think so..
Vulpix said:
Anyone know of any existing home launchers with hardware acceleration? I know ADW and GO do not support hardware acceleration right?
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Is it part of the home launcher to have HW acceleration or is it the framework in which android is running that handles HW acceleration?.. I havent heard of apps that say they have hardware acceleration.. usually, just roms..

Ice Cream Sandwich has hw launcher. Maybe wait for devs to modify that one. Also launcher pro is being totally rewritten
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perern said:
Ice Cream Sandwich has hw launcher. Maybe wait for devs to modify that one. Also launcher pro is being totally rewritten
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I have heard of this LPP rewrite for many years. Don't think I will bother with them.

Kailkti said:
The tw launcher. But only works for sgs 2.
$1 gets you a reply
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TW doesn't support scrolling widgets. I can't do without it.

Launcher Pro Lag

Running Sensation XE...
Does anyone have lag when switching between the home screens?
I have 5 screens all pretty much full with desktop visualizer widgets.
I realise this might be alot for the phone to handle, and the problem is not THAT bad, but it is something I would like to know more about solving.
First of all can anyone tell me if Launcher Pro is an 'Overlay' to Sense, then presumably sense is still running in the background?
So would deleting all the widgets I used to have when running sense help? (from the screens) or clearing sense data through settings-applications.

kevinsmbuk said:
Running Sensation XE...
Does anyone have lag when switching between the home screens?
I have 5 screens all pretty much full with desktop visualizer widgets.
I realise this might be alot for the phone to handle, and the problem is not THAT bad, but it is something I would like to know more about solving.
First of all can anyone tell me if Launcher Pro is an 'Overlay' to Sense, then presumably sense is still running in the background?
So would deleting all the widgets I used to have when running sense help? (from the screens) or clearing sense data through settings-applications.
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If you have launcher pro set as the default launcher the sense launcher should not still be running, things from sense however may still be running, like weather. I noticed lag with lp, adw seemed to be better. I actually prefer sense, though I'm in the minority for that. I would personally remove all widgets and icons from sense launcher to be on the safe side if you're not planning on using it.

Many Sense things remain running in the background even if you don't use it, including the Launcher and Rosie, even if you don't use them at all. Sense is part of the ROM, so really invasive.
If you're using Launcher Pro, and never Sense, you should flash a Non-Sense script to completly remove Sense (or freeze it with Titanium backup)
That's what I do=> No Sense script from Mike1986, Android Revolution HD thread, post 2. It's supposed to work with every ROM
It will already be really faster.
Then go into Launcher pro options, advanced options, memory usage:
most of the time, by default, memory usage is set to light or medium. With the Sensation, and all the free RAM we have, you should set it to high or maximum memory usage.
Once it done, using Launcher pro with 5 pages full of widgets (like mine) will be as smooth or smoother that Sense.
NOTE: Sense is optimized to handle correctly or both cores, Launcher Pro may take time to wake the second core. But if you force CPU1 online, it will fly!
(no no, it won 't kill your battery, you'll just always consume 192mhz more, but your device will suddenly be so smoother that you will reduce your max CPU clock, so in the whole, battery drain is the same for better overall performances)

I'm surprised no one else suggested you use a different launcher that's being attended to. The developer of Launcher Pro updated it quite often up until he released the Plus(paid) version, now he doesn't update at all. I know of the lag issue you're having, as I've had it myself. It's basically old code trying to run along side new code. I promise you if you choose a different launcher you won't run into this problem. I too loved Launcher Pro, but even the most beloved apps need a little maintenance once in awhile.

this is the first time ive heard tht launcherpro is lagging. it never lags on me. ive been using it since the original g1! no lag

g1user101 said:
this is the first time ive heard tht launcherpro is lagging. it never lags on me. ive been using it since the original g1! no lag
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+1
I had the pro version on my three last android mobiles also. Never had a lag. I have all set to full speed in settings and it flies.
Never had a problem.

+1
even on the stock rom, the day I had my Sensation, Launcher Pro was smoother than Sense, once well configured.
Now with custom ROMS and kernels, both are smooth

hw acceleration

As you know our android devices did not use that from the beginning to the ics. Our devices was not smooth as iPhone coz it didnt use gpu instead of cpu in transitions as i hear. But ics uses hw acceleration and it is smooth on even i9000. Now i ask you, is it possible to port hw accelaleration to our gingerbread devices as a mod or tweak?
Ps: i am a noob about these things for now sorry if i am wrong but i said these as i understood

dorukc said:
As you know our android devices did not use that from the beginning to the ics. Our devices was not smooth as iPhone coz it didnt use gpu instead of cpu in transitions as i hear.
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It's not true.
1. We have acceleration. But this is not requirement. IE developers can use hw acceleration and can not use it. For iPhone they should use only accelerated API.
2. In iPhone the user interface process has realtime priority. When user made some action, all background processes stopped and only process processed user action will work: try open some page in browser and while it is loading try to move the screen. The loading will stopped. In Android UI process is usual process. When you will move the page in browser it will continue loading the page. But because not all CPU used for work with UI process it can be lesser smooth than iPhone one
It's just different logic of UI. That's all.
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Ya but I have used iphone 4. And believe me guys our phone looks really a piece of crap infront of iphone. Its really smooth like silk. Our phone lag like hell when we want to do some heavy multi tasking (only 3-4 apps). But with nearly 11 open apps still iphone run so much smooth. I accept that its not open source bla bla bla...but remember guys still android has to learn a lot to reach level of smoothness of iphone.

The advantages of Android will be on multicore CPUs. This is because of logic. While one core will be executing UI process, others will execute other processes. On IOS all other processes will be frozen
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vishal24387 said:
Our phone lag like hell when we want to do some heavy multi tasking (only 3-4 apps). But with nearly 11 open apps still iphone run so much smooth.
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That tends to happen when you have 3-4 processing apps and compare it to 11 frozen apps. Try having a few apps idle in the background on the i9003 and it's smooth as silk too.

Are you sure about GPU ? I don't think our i9003 use that.
A made a test : Opera mobile is the best browser ever because of he uses GPU acceleration. And the GPU acceleration is so awesome wich some big websites are more smooth in i9003 than iphone 4. If all the UI use the GPU, I don't think the phone laggy.

Ryryoku said:
Are you sure about GPU ? I don't think our i9003 use that.
A made a test : Opera mobile is the best browser ever because of he uses GPU acceleration. And the GPU acceleration is so awesome wich some big websites are more smooth in i9003 than iphone 4. If all the UI use the GPU, I don't think the phone laggy.
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I am agree with Ryryoku, the smoothness of opera mini/mobile gives as same experience as we get in iPhone , so i think his point is valid, this is the reason why Opera is smoother than any other browser of android...