Running Sensation XE...
Does anyone have lag when switching between the home screens?
I have 5 screens all pretty much full with desktop visualizer widgets.
I realise this might be alot for the phone to handle, and the problem is not THAT bad, but it is something I would like to know more about solving.
First of all can anyone tell me if Launcher Pro is an 'Overlay' to Sense, then presumably sense is still running in the background?
So would deleting all the widgets I used to have when running sense help? (from the screens) or clearing sense data through settings-applications.
kevinsmbuk said:
Running Sensation XE...
Does anyone have lag when switching between the home screens?
I have 5 screens all pretty much full with desktop visualizer widgets.
I realise this might be alot for the phone to handle, and the problem is not THAT bad, but it is something I would like to know more about solving.
First of all can anyone tell me if Launcher Pro is an 'Overlay' to Sense, then presumably sense is still running in the background?
So would deleting all the widgets I used to have when running sense help? (from the screens) or clearing sense data through settings-applications.
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If you have launcher pro set as the default launcher the sense launcher should not still be running, things from sense however may still be running, like weather. I noticed lag with lp, adw seemed to be better. I actually prefer sense, though I'm in the minority for that. I would personally remove all widgets and icons from sense launcher to be on the safe side if you're not planning on using it.
Many Sense things remain running in the background even if you don't use it, including the Launcher and Rosie, even if you don't use them at all. Sense is part of the ROM, so really invasive.
If you're using Launcher Pro, and never Sense, you should flash a Non-Sense script to completly remove Sense (or freeze it with Titanium backup)
That's what I do=> No Sense script from Mike1986, Android Revolution HD thread, post 2. It's supposed to work with every ROM
It will already be really faster.
Then go into Launcher pro options, advanced options, memory usage:
most of the time, by default, memory usage is set to light or medium. With the Sensation, and all the free RAM we have, you should set it to high or maximum memory usage.
Once it done, using Launcher pro with 5 pages full of widgets (like mine) will be as smooth or smoother that Sense.
NOTE: Sense is optimized to handle correctly or both cores, Launcher Pro may take time to wake the second core. But if you force CPU1 online, it will fly!
(no no, it won 't kill your battery, you'll just always consume 192mhz more, but your device will suddenly be so smoother that you will reduce your max CPU clock, so in the whole, battery drain is the same for better overall performances)
I'm surprised no one else suggested you use a different launcher that's being attended to. The developer of Launcher Pro updated it quite often up until he released the Plus(paid) version, now he doesn't update at all. I know of the lag issue you're having, as I've had it myself. It's basically old code trying to run along side new code. I promise you if you choose a different launcher you won't run into this problem. I too loved Launcher Pro, but even the most beloved apps need a little maintenance once in awhile.
this is the first time ive heard tht launcherpro is lagging. it never lags on me. ive been using it since the original g1! no lag
g1user101 said:
this is the first time ive heard tht launcherpro is lagging. it never lags on me. ive been using it since the original g1! no lag
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I had the pro version on my three last android mobiles also. Never had a lag. I have all set to full speed in settings and it flies.
Never had a problem.
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even on the stock rom, the day I had my Sensation, Launcher Pro was smoother than Sense, once well configured.
Now with custom ROMS and kernels, both are smooth
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What is the best or most functional home screen launcher on the market for the Droid X? Not sure witch one to buy.
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I love launcher pro
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I woulnd't buy anything. I'd with one of the free ones like ADW or Launcher Pro.
Launcher Pro...
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I love Launcher Pro, which is free. But if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you get some AWESOME widgets, including the Facebook widget which is the best facebook app available IMHO. Also get messaging, twitter, calendar, and people widgets. They are some of the nicest widgets on the market and you get them all while supporting a great developer who is always improving his app.
+1 for LP. Use the free one first, then you will be UPgrading in no time.
picked up launcher pro not sure why many use adw. IMO LP works much better. gl with your choice.
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What is the best or most functional home screen launcher on the market for the Droid X? Not sure witch one to buy.
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I think it really depends on who you talk to. Some like ADW, others (like myself) love or prefer Launcher Pro (or Pro Plus, which is the paid version).
I like LP+ because of the very functional widgets that come with, along with the very nice widget resizer that works on ALL widgets. Both of these features come with the paid version of LP+. What really endeared me to LP+ over ADW was the memory settings. ADW when I tried it really ran my system down into stutter territory. LP+ in stock settings did this, but what it had over and above ADW was the ability to custom tweek its memory settings. I found a balance of settings in LP+ that really allowed it to run lightly on my system and aside from giving it time (say about 10 seconds or so) initially to build the caches on startup and after a long time out of the launcher, it really flies. That's b/c I have it set to load up all its relevant caches first and keep them unless heap memory is needed. That means valuable cpu clock time isn't spent building caches or spent refilling the cache for redrawing when I switch homescreens.
Also, the customizable dock and icons was a major selling point. I also like having the ability to have multiple docks (only running just one right now, but still, I can see future situations where it would be nice to have multiple docks) and have gestures enabled on top of the dock icons, giving each the possibility of an alternate function (doubling the amount of stuff one can launch from the dock.... including custom-programable activities).
I don't know about the responsiveness of the devs for ADW, so don't take this as any statement concerning them, but the developer for LP+ is quite active and listens to his users. His own forum is quite active and he's involved on there, as are his forum mods. Suggestions are listened to, and if viable and practical they are implemented, and we've seen this happen.
So, all in all, I really love LP+ and find it to really be a superior launcher program. The brief time I spent using ADW I felt it was neat but didn't really offer anything that made it shine above LP+, but it did have some flaws that while not deal-breakers collectively or in and of themselves, still essentially turned the balance of favor for me clearly over to LP+.
I prefer LauncherPro. Have used ADW briefly but always go back to LP. Even upgraded to the Plus version.
In the LauncherPro settings under General, I checked the Droid Hack and noticed some apps would hang when I would exit them. Unchecked this option and it improved performance, but there is still some lag sometimes.
Was wondering if anyone can post optimal settings here so we can try them out. I purchased the Pro lisence.
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+1 on LauncherPro Plus! Hard to beat, and the sense type widgets are awesome! I barely miss the sense ui on my incredible.
they are both fantastic. LP widgets (especially themed) and 3d drawer look awesome and another plus with the dock. ADW though i find to be nices scrolling through homescreens and the upswipe to bring up a new osx-like dock is appealing. That being said im running both with ADW as my hard button default home, 10 homescreens between the two of them, LP used for "large" widgets and ADW for shortcuts and smaller widgets. It switches launchers instantly thru dock shortcuts so i wont be getting rid of either one of them. Attempting to skin them 2 different colors isnt going so well tho...
How do you keep your phone from stuttering and lagging running two cpu-demanding launcher setups? With all those screens and the need for quick redraws, your heap memory has GOT to be ready to burst.
I was actually pretty surprised. Android does a pretty damn good job managing resources it seems. I do keep setcpu at 1k all the time unless the screen is off or im under 20%, which is never. That probably helped. I honestly didnt expect it to work this well though
add me up on the LP users...
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Launcher Pro....no contest. ADW launcher is ok but Cyanogen like to talk @#$%
Launcherpro ftw!!!! never use ADW it is pure crap compared to LP
I am surprised no one has mentioned Zeam. Pretty good. And there is a thread right here on XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664149
I like some of the settings (swipe up for app drawer, swipe down for taskbar, double tap for dialer etc).
I have LaincherPro+, but right now I am using Zeam.
I’ve been using launcher pro plus since I bought my DX at launch. It's been great and has lots of options to customize the hell out of the phone.
Well since I'm always looking for the lightest launcher (not that my phone is slow but I want a launcher just to play my 3d intensive games), I decided to post my findings about various Launchers here, I'll add more as I test them, this is using Task Manager when the Launcher is running as the main app (because if I launch GO for example and it isn't the default one, it will show the same RAM usage but 0% CPU usage), I measured at least five times each so I could get an average - that's using a Milestone 2 (Droid 2) non overclocked, rooted:
Home (Motorola): CPU 5%ish, RAM 20-25 MB
Go Launcher: CPU 10-12%, RAM 20-31 MB
Launcher 7: CPU 10-12%, RAM 22-25MB
Regina Launcher 3D: CPU 1-5%, RAM 15-25MB
Zeam: CPU 0%, RAM 9-12 MB
Zeam would always give me 0% CPU no matter what except when it was starting (drawing icons, app drawer and all) when it gave me 40%ish CPU and 50mb RAM.
LauncherPro would never appear on Task Manager so if anyone has a tip on which program to use to measure its RAM and CPU consumption I'd love a suggestion.
Since Dungeon Hunter 2 is the only game that constantly gives me slowdowns (other demanding games like Eternal Legacy, Reckless Racing and Spider Man Total Mayhem almost never show slowdowns, Hero of Sparta does but al reviews say it was badly coded compared to the iPhone version so I thought there was no point in using it to test Launchers), I used that game as a 'benchmark'.
I was only able to play it without it slowing down constantly when I performed certain actions (the animation of the trasure flipping when you open a chest) and having 90% smooth battles even using the fairy spells (which are full of effects) using Zeam. The game was almost unplayable using default Motorola Blur Home (although I tested Spider Man, which is the fastest action 3D game I have, and it worked flawlessly), and I'd say LauncherPro, even leaving all widgets (facebook, twitter, sms, calendar) on, delivered an experience almost as good as Zeam, same can be said for Regina Launcher although the Launcher itself slows down because it's all 3D and stuff. Performance under Launcher7 wasn't good.
I'm going to test ADW and the Gingerbread launchers now (have 4 of them, one by Steve Lin, one by someguy373 - sorry forgot the name, HELauncher and another one called Gingerbread Launcher like the 373 guy's one), but I'm hoping someone will come with better way to test hi-end game performance under several launchers (since in my case it's the only thing that seems to be affected by them, I charge my phone daily and since Droid2's battery sucks anyway I can't say I have noticed battery differences among them).
Awesome info Although I'm surprised at the moto home using up so little resources though
And to see Launcher Pro, If you're using Advanced Task manager go into Settings then change the security level to low so you can see all the Apps and processes running, Launcher Pro should be one of them
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Awesome info Although I'm surprised at the moto home using up so little resources though
And to see Launcher Pro, If you're using Advanced Task manager go into Settings then change the security level to low so you can see all the Apps and processes running, Launcher Pro should be one of them
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Oh thanks, I'll install advanced Task Man to see, there are other launchers I can't see as well such as the gingerbread ones.
LauncherPro has a debug feature IIRC, it should be in the Advanced settings.
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LauncherPro has a debug feature IIRC, it should be in the Advanced settings.
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Yeah it's showing me 15-25mb most of the time.
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With atrix I use adw paid version with every animation possible but HTC magic 32b I needed all the resources I could get and use zeam. Thanks for the info
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Try GO, too. It appears to consume little overhead while offering the best features of adw ex and lpp (plus I like its task management widget).
I'm curious to find out what its footprint is in comparison to the others
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LauncherPro would never appear on Task Manager so if anyone has a tip on which program to use to measure its RAM and CPU consumption I'd love a suggestion.
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You can try Home Manager for the RAM usage (about 28 -32MB on my phone - X8, stock 2.1). Still no clue to the CPU consumption tho.
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Thank you so much for this info, is very very helpfull.
Currently I'm using ADW Ex, but I will look for either Zeam of LauncherPro.
Zeam is a very good launcher, I hope to get more features in the next updates.
Thanks again.
This pretty much sums up why I use the Zeam Launcher over other feature-heavy launchers like LPP, GO or ADW. Of course, the results are more or less expected except for the MotoBlur. @[email protected]
If anyone can provide the info regarding the usage of the Touchwiz and Sense, I'll really appreciate it. I'm itching to go back to my home launcher again. XD
Have you tried HeLauncher?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.handlerexploit.launcher_reloaded&feature=search_result
Seems like it might be light but im not sure...
With the built in launcherpro memory useage display the highest I see is 10.x MB, and for the most part it hovers around 9.5-9.8MB.
EDIT: I found launcherpro in Task Manager as android.process.acore. Task manager has it consuming about 28MB of memory and 0-1% CPU.
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I've had several HTC phones and I really don't see the appeal of Sense. Disable Sense, either with script, new launcher, or new rom is literally the first thing I do when I get a new HTC phone. Yet I see a steady request from people to make more Sense ROMs or add Sense features to nonSense ROMs. I know it's blasphemy around here, but I actually like TouchWiz and the iPhone UI. So I ask:
What is it about Sense that you find attractive?
EDIT: I want to add that I'm not trying to "troll" or be confrontational or contrary, more wondering if there is something about Sense that I'm missing or possibly haven't taken advantage of. Obviously HTC is doing really well right now and I'm sure that their Sense UI plays a role in that.
MHO, im in the same boat you are sir, the only thing I do like is the social networking features built in, although now, i use launcherpro, so i am just waiting till i can root, then its CM time!
Its simple and very user friendly. The UI is very eye appealing to me. Its really all personal choice. I always find myself enjoying things built into sense roms like the ringtone trimmer is pretty stellar!
Sense 4+ and Sense 5 are awesome implementations to HTCs new devices, I got my HTC One in the mail yesterday and I have been enjoying the less intrusive side of Sense 5 but blink feed needs to go ASAP
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I don't see anything in it, except more battery and more heavy. Deleting it is the first thing I do in any ROM. Well, the ROMs I use now don't have Sense bundled
Edit: I have been using ZEAM launcher for months now... both on Captivate and Inspire.
I hate how it reaches to every aspect of the phone. I never liked TouchWiz, but at least TouchWiz was pretty much just a launcher. I really don't like anything besides AOSP, though.
I like the themeing, but I hate Sense itself. That's why I'm using CM7 themed like Sense.
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I don't like Sense either. I find that it normally slows my phone down dramatically and drains the battery. I rarely used anything in Sense, so I have also always disabled it!
I'm in the middle.. I enjoy sense because it is pretty much one thing EYE-CANDY. Its awesome to see and show off as well as some of the features built in especially friendstream and the weather. I love AOSP as well, reason I have widgetlocker and a few other apps to bring me my AOSP goodness. Sense roms dont really drain battery.. I get amazing life on Kingdom Sense 3.0 and Honey Sense HD 1.5.
This is gonna be a stupid reason, but the clock/weather widget.
I also think that it's the #1 replicated part of Sense.
I like it as it looks sweet. It also hooks me into my entire social world. When I have a sense rom running anyone and everyone can hit me up, Facebook friends, google friends, tweet friends. Everything shows me as logged in and ready to communicate.
That said I am running Gingerbeast ASOP, with Go Launcher EX and Widget locker right now and loving the Battery Life. while still looking amazing.
I'm on the fence on Sense, seem to flash back and forth between AOSP roms and sense roms like clockwork. I can say that my preference is stock Gingerbread with Launcher Pro widgets.
Here are some of the Sense pros:
-The lock screen on Sense 3.0 is almost enough to keep me using sense.
-I also like the better integration with Facebook and LinkedIn in my contacts.
-It's near impossible and expensive to re-create all of the HTC Widgets in a non-sense rom. The closest alternative is Launcher Pro, paid version to get the extra widgets, plus Beautiful widgets for the home screen clock. You can find comperable widgets, but if your a design purist, it's hard to get all of them looking consistant
- You can actually get decent battery with the right custom roms. I run TBFusion with the Lee kernel, undervolt, setcpu, and it's good for a full day.
Dislikes:
-Dialer - very old-school number search approach I have never liked. It was designed for when phones had only numberpads to allow you to find contacts quickly. Basically the deal-breaker for me on Sense.
-Keyboard layout; hide key is too close to space and shift, plus very cluttered (easily fixed by installing another keyboard)
-Not a fan of the way they implemented quick settings in the notifications. Having to slide down, then tab between notifications and settings is an extra step. Seems silly, but gets annoying if you've ever used CM7 or something like that.
I really like the simplicity, speed, and battery performance of pure AOSP Gingerbread. I'm running Gingerbeast at the moment. Very smooth.
IMO - if you like iPhone and touchjizz, try MIUI
IMHO, Sense is a very cool thing. I love Sense ROMs and wish that Sense was open source so that many of its features could be added to CM7 or vice versa. For me, the cons list is short so I'll start there.
---CONS---
-Battery life is reduced
-System is slightly slowed
-RAM is hogged by Rosie, Sense, and Sense apps
+++PROS+++
+The keyboard is very good IMO
+The UI is clean and appealing
++Menus are colorful and therefore easier to navigate IMO
++Organization and useability of things such as the Customizations menu is superior to Android Stock
+The widgets are all built in and are very functional (Mail, News, Settings, Stocks)
+Many HTC apps are superior IMO to the stock Google apps.
+Seven home screens as opposed to 5 for stock. (However, I know CM7 and many others can add screens, I like the layout of Sense better as you do not have to choose whether home key goes to default screen or overview as you do in CM7. Sense home key toggles between the two)
Yes, I realize many will argue that the genie widget is great for news, but HTC's News widget (Google RSS reader) is the most visually appealing and easiest to use of all news widgets I have tried.
I do have to give HTC props on their implementation of Select/Copy/Paste, it is much better than AOSP - the magnifying glass method is definitely better than the stupid little marker method.
I like sense but would be interested in trying go launcher. So If I install go launcher will sense continue to run and consume resources? Are there any known conflicts?
You can try it out. Don't have much experience with sense because I don't like it. But try it out and see what happens
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I like sense but would be interested in trying go launcher. So If I install go launcher will sense continue to run and consume resources? Are there any known conflicts?
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Will it still run? Yes it will still run in the background. You an freeze it with TIBU and that will stop it.
I've been running GO Launcher since about a month after I got the phone. Don't recall ever having any problems with it conflicting. If Sense is still running in the background there hasn't been any noticeable difference in performance or battery life. I did read somewhere that any widgets you have on the Sense home screens will still run/update even if you're using GO. So I just removed all the widgets. Of course, you're not able to use the Sense widgets on the GO home screens but I haven't come across any non-Sense widgets that I couldn't run on GO.
This isnt a new problem but something carried over from ICS. However given the immense performance improvements throughout the system this one is just surprising.
The home screen navigation on the stock launcher is just blocky. Every now and then I have to swipe my thumb twice or thrice to get to the next homescreen. There is no lag or stutter it's just that the phone doesnt recognise my swipe as a significant one so doesnt move to the next screen.
Now the thing is that this is not an issue at all with APEX launcher which just doesnt make sense to me how come a third party launcher is faster than stock launcher? Have you guys felt this problem?
The stock launcher has a 'bounce-back' effect. Which makes it look blocky. At least that's what I noticed.
Apex has an option to enable/disable that. But that doesn't mean it's faster or slower, it just looks that way.
And actually most 3rd party launchers are supposed to be faster, or better in some aspects or else we wouldn't install them.
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Ya I figured it is some "effect" instead of an inherent performance problem. Too bad there is no way to disable it without changing launcher and also the galaxy nexus didnt seem to have this issue or effect whatever it is.