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I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
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SamsungJohn said:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.
I am a dubious person and do not have expectations as I am still uncertain as to your intentions and more importantly you identity.
But if all is as you say I would take back to the powers that be, many are obviously unhappy with having to run outdated software in the form of the OS on what was at the time of purchase cutting edge hardware.
Give us a option. Give us a way to open the phone up and flash a AOSP option. A more Nexus-ish approach would be fantastic.
The Mainstream will have what they require in a stock configuration and we the ones that know what the potential of the device is can help you in pushing it to its limits.
Well I'm trying to get my post count up so I can comment in development. Anywho kudos to samsung.
Thanks again John, I'm excited and look forward to hearing your announcement!
For those skeptics, he's been trying to prove that he's legit;
http://img602.imageshack.us/i/20110211164013.jpg/
http://img193.imageshack.us/i/20110211205159.jpg/
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/20110211205212.jpg/
http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20110211205219.jpg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11300099&postcount=78
He already posted these in the captivate forum, let's show him a better welcome while we wait for final details!
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Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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maybe samsung will use us for testing and maybe some tweaking...that would give us a chance to develop on it before its officially released and we would just plain out have it early, cause if you give the devs here like 2 weeks with just about anything it will be fully modded and running to its full potential!!!
props to xda devs!!!
Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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Hopefully their next approach works out better, they should have known better than to open a topic up to the entire forum
They should probably have moderator's from each device take questions from their users, then they could collaborate and get only the good questions answered. (and you wouldn't have to deal with trolls/flames/etc.)
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Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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I suppose the question *since we can't ask specifics* is....
What can you do to help us and or what tools can you provide to the DEVs to help us get every bit of Awesome out of the device that we can.
Put the ball in your court.
Glad THIS thread is still open...
(Does SamsungJohn know how forums work?!?)
ANYhoo... I'm a give 'em enough rope to hang themselves kinda guy and I've actually been recommending the Mesmerize & Fascinate to friends that need new phones based solely on the great XDA community and what they can get those phones to do using only a bread tie, three pennies, and a jar of Cheez Wiz. Kudos to the devs once again!
I had no delusions that Samsung was a great manufacturer... my TV and DVD/home theater unit have had their share of problems... and I was also aware of the OS update delays in other product lines before I got my phone so that wasn't a big surprise either. BUT, I got in on the free phone thing through USCC and (if I EVER get my $80 rebate) I'll still consider being a Mesmerize owner/user a WIN.
What I see here is a classic example of a company that has the OBVIOUS solution within their grasp and they are actively choosing to find an alternative to it that will provide them SHORT TERM monetary gains. They have set themselves up for failure and they have only themselves to blame. Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
Guys if you haven't read through it, that topic was closed by a moderator because it was an experiment that failed miserably. (because the general XDA population isn't very good at reading and following instruction, and it turned into a huge flamefest.)
John has been confirmed by several sources to be who he says he is (at least works for samsung) and is here working with the XDA administration to (in an organized way) swap feedback with the developing community (on all samsung products).
On a side note Supercurio has been in correspondence with Korean Samsung and has been also pushing for this very thing to happen, but from what I've read i'ts pure coincidence that John arrived when he did.
Anyway, sounds to me like we need to be patient as information IS coming as soon as they figure out the best way to go about this whole thing. This is how I've taken things from what I've read today, don't quote me....
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Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
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In all fairness Crowdsourceing is what the whole AOSP is about. Android was and is developed to be Open Source. So if a company is reaching out to the community it can't be all bad.
I just think that for the most part a lot of us here are end users.
While I am sure that others like me want to, and strive to learn more, we simply will not be on a par with the current crop of DEVs as they progress as well.
I think the idea of a couple DEVs from each of the respective forums of the variations of the SGS platforms being in contact is a smart idea.
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
In fact a meeting of the minds in a channel of choice with only participants having voice would be nice as well.
I do understand and hope that SamsungJohn does know as well that most here are simply end users and just wanna know when we will get xxx or yyy ..
I will now go back to my corner get my Java Text out and see if I can learn, learn, learn....
If samsung really wants to get in good with the developement community, they would be wise to make it entirely official, and go to engadget or someone with a press release. If you want to gain our trust, give everyone the AOSP build.
Do I want sammy to be community-minded? Absolutely.
Am I going to trust one guy who says he works for our manufacturer? Well, let's get to the root of that. Do I trust the company who created out hardware? Not at all.
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Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
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Yeah I frequent the irc with those guys and we're always willing to help people... I think a lot of people come to forums just to get help and information rather than to develop and theme and stuff like we do. It would probably be more beneficial for Samsungjohn to maybe set up a date on the irc and say like "I will be on from x time to y time" and then people can get on and ask questions and talk about things, and more of the power users who use the irc regularly will get a chance to maybe learn some stuff or help out Samsung.
It would also make it much easier to control, if things get out of hand then the OPs can simply kick or ban the culprits.
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Cross-posting this from the LG G2X Cyanogen forums.
In case you missed it there is now a bounty on issue 4105 aka "no bluetooth stereo". As of this writing it's over $100 and though that probably won't cover the hours it takes to track down the Bluetooth driver and port it, it will buy a few cases of beer to celebrate.
I'd post a link, but I can't yet because I'm a newb - so you'll have to trust me.
Is this even possible??? Would they have to make a driver from scratch??? If it is possible and legit im down for adding to the pot.
It was my understanding that nVidia needed to release the source code for their drivers to get this to happen? I'm not holding my breath on that happening. I would really like to see the Bluetooth issues worked out though.
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It was my understanding that nVidia needed to release the source code for their drivers to get this to happen? I'm not holding my breath on that happening. I would really like to see the Bluetooth issues worked out though.
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..maybe NVidia wants the $100
Anything is possible. It's not easy, and very Time consuming, to reverse engineer drivers.
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..maybe NVidia wants the $100
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Lol that's awesome
That is the pretty ****ty thing about NVidia. If they are going to keep their doors closed then at least provide updated drivers frequently.
Maybe when Tegra 3 comes out they'll release Tegra 2.
I've seen so many devs so so many near impossible things here are XDA that I know someone will crack it. I think they are just being lazy now (which is smart) because why waste time and energy if NVidia will release it shortly? But now that we're finding out that it probably won't happen that hopefully they'll start crackin' on it.
I would add to the pot if someone can provide a link
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That is the pretty ****ty thing about NVidia. If they are going to keep their doors closed then at least provide updated drivers frequently.
Maybe when Tegra 3 comes out they'll release Tegra 2.
I've seen so many devs so so many near impossible things here are XDA that I know someone will crack it. I think they are just being lazy now (which is smart) because why waste time and energy if NVidia will release it shortly? But now that we're finding out that it probably won't happen that hopefully they'll start crackin' on it.
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That will be next to impossible. Nvidia is not open source friendy.
I think this will work. If many are doubting, better check out hd2 android...
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To write a driver, you need a register set. Apparently that is part of the IP NVidia isn't up-ing, at least not without an NDA. Without a register set, have fun...
So if you signed the NDA, get the register set description (which may come with sample code), wrote a lib, and posted the lib (but not the source code) here, would that violate the NDA?
I would add to the pot as well. I would LOVE to see this happen.
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To write a driver, you need a register set. Apparently that is part of the IP NVidia isn't up-ing, at least not without an NDA. Without a register set, have fun...
So if you signed the NDA, get the register set description (which may come with sample code), wrote a lib, and posted the lib (but not the source code) here, would that violate the NDA?
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No, that should not violate the NDA. The NDA covers the source code they provide to you to develop your products. The work product is okay to distribute as long as you don't disclose the source code.
I will donate of we find somone that is capable. Maybe we can drag another dev into a g2x as a result as well. Love this phone. Hopefully more will realize its superior smoothness to the crapsation.
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Ill trow down $30 on the pot.
I would definitely chip in for the bounty as well if someone could get a2dp/bluetooth to work. I've been pretty disappointed with my g2x and it's because of this.
CM_arcee tweeted it is working on 2x, i think we have a2dp thanks to the fine devs here!
http://tinyurl.com/66zc8un
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CM_arcee tweeted it is working on 2x, i think we have a2dp thanks to the fine devs here!
http://tinyurl.com/66zc8un
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Ummmmmm...... wow.
If this is coming out in a CM7 rom soon then where do I sign up to donate!!!!
maciek82 said:
Ummmmmm...... wow.
If this is coming out in a CM7 rom soon then where do I sign up to donate!!!!
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It will soon be in cm7! CM_arcee is the man to thank/donate.
This will make cm7 complete and my g2x perfect.
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It will soon be in cm7! CM_arcee is the man to thank/donate.
This will make cm7 complete and my g2x perfect.
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In the next release list, a2dp workaround is aready there. Probably come out within the week, maybe tomorrow. Check out the CM7 changelog page of g2x p999.
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In the next release list, a2dp workaround is aready there. Probably come out within the week, maybe tomorrow. Check out the CM7 changelog page of g2x p999.
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Already used it at work, thanks fits!
OK for all you haters. http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources
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Score!!!! F you LG we don't need you anymore.
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You should do a search before posting. That is not source for our device.
That's a start, can't help but knock people down. Yeah, I know it's O2x dumb ass.
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No, it's not O2X either, so knock off the attitude.
That is the development page for the reference Tegra 250 kit, and it's been around for a long time.
The O2X/G2X use the Tegra 250 AP20H. Nvidia has already stated that it's up to LG to release code specific to our phones.
I was saying you should search because that link has been posted tons of times.
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That's a start, can't help but knock people down. Yeah, I know it's O2x dumb ass.
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please know what you're talking about before trying to insult people.
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I'll admit u got me.... these type of posts need to stop, get hopes up.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
This looks legit, it was posted a couple days ago, read this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
It includes this:
"Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Ventana"
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.2 "Froyo" and above.
Hence, the "Tegra" it is talking about is Tegra 2
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This looks legit, it was posted a couple days ago, read this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
It includes this:
"Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Ventana"
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.2 "Froyo" and above.
Hence, the "Tegra" it is talking about is Tegra 2
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No. Ventana is what's used primarily in Tablets. We have "Harmony."
I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I wasn't bashing him and neither was anyone else. He (the op)called a guy a dumb ass because he told him its not the right driver lol.
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Cmon devs!
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This thread is funny.....rookies never learn
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I'll admit u got me.... these type of posts need to stop, get hopes up.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
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Agreed 100%
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I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I agree. I mean realistically I'm sure the devs will be the first to know when source or drivers get released, but but don't squash a guy for being enthusiastic and trying to be helpful.
First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage one another and promote how awesome our device is, which brings me to this... Why use these forums to bash the g2x? All the complaining and whining is why t-Mobile bailed out. I am a collision tech for highline vehicles, do you have any idea how much service a Ferrari requires to keep it running? I seriously doubt Enzo Ferrari endured customers calling to tell him what a pos his cars are(I know he's dead) Lastly, I happen to be a successful writer for another website, I happen to be a weath of knowledge with a lot of connections. I have been been working my butt off to help a certain group of devs get a certain app working on our device, all I'll say is those of us that are flashing addicts will appreciate this app. I get things done through kindness and support. I would love to see that sense of community here, lets face it, we ALL use these forums. Thank you so much all devs that have stuck it out with us, our device would be worthless without you, sincerely, artifintel.
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He called him a.......dumb ass? Gulp! I swear its a bunch of children on here. I know most of us get called worse than that on a daily basis.
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First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage one another and promote how awesome our device is, which brings me to this... Why use these forums to bash the g2x? All the complaining and whining is why t-Mobile bailed out. I am a collision tech for highline vehicles, do you have any idea how much service a Ferrari requires to keep it running? I seriously doubt Enzo Ferrari endured customers calling to tell him what a pos his cars are(I know he's dead) Lastly, I happen to be a successful writer for another website, I happen to be a weath of knowledge with a lot of connections. I have been been working my butt off to help a certain group of devs get a certain app working on our device, all I'll say is those of us that are flashing addicts will appreciate this app. I get things done through kindness and support. I would love to see that sense of community here, lets face it, we ALL use these forums. Thank you so much all devs that have stuck it out with us, our device would be worthless without you, sincerely, artifintel.
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qft. The saddest part is that some people will never learn.
BTW: Good luck
Thanks! I'm scheduled to do an article on the app, hopefully they will have it working soon.
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First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage on
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Very well said. Although I don't think the "you're wrong I'm right" has a lot to do with the problem. I think the problem goes a little deeper then that.
I feel the problem lies more upon the greed of many users who for some reason think devs/themers owe them something. Developers and themers do this because we like to in our own freetime. We like seeing the page views, downloads, thanks, and constructive criticism that push us to go a step further.
I will give an example of how many of us that make releases look at things. And use my personal releases as reference.
My precision theme for all devices I own and some I don't own has about 6k downloads. Precision for cm7 has about 900. Icecreamcomb has a little over 3k. Weapon new clip has about 400. And a few thousand for all my wallpapers, boot animations, and other images I have created. So apparently a lot of people use my work which is what I hope for upon releasing, seeing as I want people to enjoy it as much as I do.
Look at my thanks meter. I have 210 thanks. So that tells me that out of the 10k+ people using my work only 210 (2%?) where grateful enough to take the liberty to click a button and show appreciation for my hours and hours of hard work. But hey that's fine at least some people do appreciate it and many more use it.
However there are always those that do nothing but troll and complain that drives everyone away. It is sad when it gets to the point that people stop developing for a device because of users. I find it quite astounding the nerve of some people.
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Attention Android Developers!!!
Looking to help out or make some extra cash? Then we need you!!
Despite our best efforts TeamDRH has been unable to create a working webcam driver that is compatible with our kernel (2.6.39) and we are not ashamed to ask for help. TeamDRH is actively seeking an Android Developer that would be able to create a fully working driver for the webcam in our device and we are offering a $300 USD bounty to the first person to make this happen!
We believe we have all the documentation necessary for the creation of a driver however our team does not have the necessary skills to use this documentation to our advantage and we really require someone with an advanced skill set to get the heavy lifting done and we are willing to pay someone for their efforts. We are also having problems getting our microphone working as well and it would be an added bonus if this could be remedied but it is not our main focus at the moment.
If you are interested please email either myself or Fosser2 at one of the following email addresses.
fosser2 (at) teamdrh (dot) com
ch3vr0n5 (at) teamdrh (dot) com
In addition to the $300 USD we will also include any donations to our PayPal account with the note "Camera Bounty" attached to it so if you really want that camera working please feel free to donate to the cause however it of course not necessary. :-D
Donation Link
We look forward to the e-mails!!
Cheers!
Thank you
I just sent a message to the XDA Portal admins requesting they write about this on the front page. This sounds like a challenge some brilliant mind out there might be willing to attempt... especially for a sizable chunk of change like that! I set up TeamDRH's ICS Beta and I'm thoroughly impressed. The camera would just be the cherry on top
Huge thanks to ch3vr0n5 and the rest of TeamDRH! I will be sending donations your way soon, you all certainly deserve it!
-m2xtreme-
Team DRH is awesome. I'm definitely donating and I encourage every gtab running drh ics to do the same
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Any updates
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Any updates
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No not really...m2xtreme did send an email, but I have not heard anything back. The project is very tough though...
You guys are above legendary at this point, working your way out on ICS when even a crappy gingerbread release never came. Best of luck on this btw, I know you're gonna make it
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I urge those of you interested in this effort getting publicity to write to the XDA Portal and request they write about it. Come on everyone, they've been neglecting our aging gtablet in the portal, lets get them to show some love
I'm really surprised no one has stepped up. How do we write to the portal
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You can suggest content for the XDA Portal here:
http://www.xda-developers.com/suggest-content/
Sorry, I should have posted that earlier. Thanks in advance to everyone who writes in. I look forward to seeing this play out. Also, it sounds like TeamDRH might be coming out with a substantial upgrade soon since they are having an artwork contest. That's purely speculation, but regardless this is very exciting time for the ol' g-tab
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You guys are above legendary at this point, working your way out on ICS when even a crappy gingerbread release never came. Best of luck on this btw, I know you're gonna make it
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+100
Some of the users of other ventana phones (including the o2x) have started a petition for ICS drivers..
Sign it! It takes a few seconds and who knows, maybe Nvidia will cave under the pressure...
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-want-ics-drivers-for-nvidia-ventana/
Hi all.
I have started a petition for Nvidia to provide us the ICS drivers for venatana board so that if our manufacturers are unable to provide us ICS, our devs can make a ICS build with full H/W acceleration by using those drivers and if we will get those drivers we will surely get latest Jelly Build also (actually i trust in our devs more than our manufacturers).
This petition is not for only Galaxy R but for each and every device based on ventana board and their users suffers lacks of H/W acceleration with ICS (like Lg Optimus 2x, moto atrix).
kindly sign this petition and show your support also spread this to your friends so that they can also support in our petition against nvidia and so that we can show to nvidia that how we care about our devices and we want drivers from you.
if u guys think that anything should be added or edited in petition leave a reply here or PM me i will do it.
rate this thread and also report it as a news tip so that we can spread this thread on whole xda by xda-portal
Thanks.
Link: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-want-ics-drivers-for-nvidia-ventana/
PS: after signing the petition, ipetition website may ask u for donations, this petition is not related with that donation stuff and its not mandatory to donate. if u want to support that website u can donate.
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signed it!
If we're trying to get attention I think the petition should at least be professional. Grammar, for example, would help. Nonetheless, signed
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G2xer said:
If we're trying to get attention I think the petition should at least be professional. Grammar, for example, would help. Nonetheless, signed
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Yeah, I thought the exact same thing... But I guess it's better than nothing :laugh:
I think its time to give up on ever getting those drivers from Nvidia, petition or no petition. Think about it, if the drivers where ready but just sitting on a server somewhere they would have been leaked bu now.