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Apple Patent Dispute aims Android*ICS Lock Screen

http://technofierce.com/2012/01/24/...ck-screen-in-samsung-galaxy-nexus/news/001926
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And yet another reason to prove apple is gay aswell as its users. They cant handle a phone thats better then theirs.

I dont know why anyone gave them the right to patent a motion. Are they going to patent high fives next?
and apparently they patented rounded edges in Australia.

Seems ppl were jumping to conclusions again.... more so the s2. Series is the target
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-unlock-screen-not-targeted-apple-lawsuit-after-all
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jim93 said:
I dont know why anyone gave them the right to patent a motion. Are they going to patent high fives next?
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http://www.google.com/patents/US5356330

jim93 said:
I dont know why anyone gave them the right to patent a motion. Are they going to patent high fives next?
and apparently they patented rounded edges in Australia.
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saltmine said:
http://www.google.com/patents/US5356330
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...pwned.
It's not uncommon for Apple to target Samsung, Motorola...or Android for that matter. Whether or not Apple actually has a case is above me, but it's apparent both of these OS use or "borrow" features from the other...a self-made "improved" version of the former.

Joy2DaWurld said:
...pwned.
It's not uncommon for Apple to target Samsung, Motorola...or Android for that matter. Whether or not Apple actually has a case is above me, but it's apparent both of these OS use or "borrow" features from the other...a self-made "improved" version of the former.
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i assume google wasn't smart enough to patent stuff that apple borrowed?

jessejames111981 said:
i assume google wasn't smart enough to patent stuff that apple borrowed?
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I can't stand this patent stuff
I understand companies waiting to protect intellectual property
But apple and other companies are going to far.
I think only their devices and distinct styles should be patented
That's it...
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Sounds like Apple is really grasping for straws at this point.

gstar_raw said:
Sounds like Apple is really grasping for straws at this point.
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how so? iOS still accounts for a signifigant (even if it isn't majority) & of smartphones. Apple owns that entire portion of the pie where as the android portion is shared by a handful of companies. Plus they got a name. As long as they put out a half decent product, it will sell.

can't these guys just drop all the lawsuits and actually improve their os/ui? seriously.. most of the time they just sue each other instead of improving things -.-

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how so? iOS still accounts for a signifigant (even if it isn't majority) & of smartphones. Apple owns that entire portion of the pie where as the android portion is shared by a handful of companies. Plus they got a name. As long as they put out a half decent product, it will sell.
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Your logic is flawed. He didn't say that they were doing poorly, he simply said they are going for anything and everything they can. Maybe they want to own more of the market, maybe they are afraid of android getting ahead... Just because iOS is doing well doesn't mean they aren't getting defensive lately.

Another one of the many reasons why I refuse to buy any apple products.
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What i dont fet is why in hell can companies like Apple keep wasting so much money on lawauits instead of investing in innovationwhich theyve lost a few years back
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ktynchy1 said:
What i dont fet is why in hell can companies like Apple keep wasting so much money on lawauits instead of investing in innovationwhich theyve lost a few years back
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the OG iPhone spawned a growth spurt in transforming PDAs to our modern smartphone. We are currently in a spot where noone is doing anything innovative so I guess this is their way of passing time

Apple needs to go #UCK themselves with all their frivolous lawsuits.
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clninja said:
Another one of the many reasons why I refuse to buy any apple products.
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I think about it the same way!

This is the only thing that left for Apple to do since they enjoy taking everyone and their brothers to court
BREAKING NEWS: Apple Computer, Inc. has filed a copyright infingement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.

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BREAKING NEWS: Apple Computer, Inc. has filed a copyright infingement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.
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nice.
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clninja said:
Another one of the many reasons why I refuse to buy any apple products.
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Chileno4Live said:
I think about it the same way!
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Bah you guys must be new to the Anti Apple party .......... i've had a complete unilateral ban on all Apple products (except quicktime...*sigh*) since about 1990 !!!
What i find most perverse and ironic about Apple is that they ARE the Stalinist, monolithic, all seeing, all controlling, big brother, facelessly corporate, tech company the much famed old Apple advertisement painted every other tech company to be. And whats more they always where. Developing nation sweat shop worker conditions is only the tip of the iceberg where Apple are concerned ....... you can be sure Bono will never do another Apple advert ... lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhsWzJo2sN4
If you've never seen it.

Its official - court rules that Motorolas patents cannot be used against Apple

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2012/02/motorola-cant-enforce-standard.html
German courts have made a ruling that means if Motorola tries to use its most important patents against Apple in a court case the company will be in violation of European Anti trust law.
As the article says:
"Apple scored a breakthrough court victory today against Motorola. Its important can hardly be overstated. This is so huge that it even begs the question of whether Google's strategy for its $12.5 billion purchase of Motorola Mobility has failed before the deal is even formally closed (they're still waiting for some regulatory approvals)."
It would be nice to see Apple bought down a peg or two but the way things are going its likely to be Google-Motorola (and therefore also Android) that is on the losing side.
After all Motorola cannot use its genuinely essential patents in court now and yet Apple can still use dumb ones like voice search, touch screen, text completion etcetera that although every decent phone nowadays has these features Apple own the patents to and have been able to use in court cases so it seems Apple now have the upper hand.
Dave

Why, yes, Apple, you can patent intuitive actions on your devices all you please; and don't worry about those pesky other companies patenting worthwhile operating features, we'll make them play ball with you. Hahaha, let's go smoke this cigar together and laugh at all the little people.

this is getting hilarious...they all should concentrate on developing new devices instead of sueing each other. I hate Apple for all these lawsuits...

Firetribe said:
this is getting hilarious...they all should concentrate on developing new devices instead of sueing each other. I hate Apple for all these lawsuits...
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They can't develop new devices without violating apples patents anymore. When the new phones with android get released after mwc you'll see more lawsuits against those models too.
Apple will win because they have patents that are not subject to frand so don't have to let people use them.
Odd thing is that apples licence offer to motorola, which stopped the injunction on iphones in Germany, is still less than motorola asked for yet judges order them to not sue apple as a result.
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Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all... I just feel sorry for the time wasted in court, only to slow down the other side, time and money which could be used much better.
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Firetribe said:
Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all... I just feel sorry for the time wasted in court, only to slow down the other side, time and money which could be used much better.
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Things got worse for motorola today as apple won court case over the android gallery and they have to change it or all their products running android get banned and recalled.
Dave
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First of all you have to consider the source of this information to be able to evaluate the spin on this. Florian Mueller is a anti Google/Android pro MS mouthpiece who tends to be clueless.
This is a lifting of the preliminary injunction. The case itself is still pending, but It'll likely to take quite a while to finish up. Granted this isn't good news for Motorola, but it's NOT the end of the road.
Check out Groklaw for a different slant on this and other issues (eg Oracle/Google)

jcmm11 said:
First of all you have to consider the source of this information to be able to evaluate the spin on this. Florian Mueller is a anti Google/Android pro MS mouthpiece who tends to be clueless.
This is a lifting of the preliminary injunction. The case itself is still pending, but It'll likely to take quite a while to finish up. Granted this isn't good news for Motorola, but it's NOT the end of the road.
Check out Groklaw for a different slant on this and other issues (eg Oracle/Google)
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Actually he uses android devices as he has a Samsung that was affected by the german court case against them last year and he is actually very knowledgeable.
I follow his work and have not noticed any pro apple bias but the things he states are facts, motorolas cannot sue apple using their patents for the duration of the appeal which is between one to two years so how would any bias change the facts?
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He said "pro MS" and not "pro apple"
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Actually he uses android devices as he has a Samsung that was affected by the german court case against them last year and he is actually very knowledgeable.
I follow his work and have not noticed any pro apple bias but the things he states are facts, motorolas cannot sue apple using their patents for the duration of the appeal which is between one to two years so how would any bias change the facts?
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atljatl said:
He said "pro MS" and not "pro apple"
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He said anti android as well which if the guy uses android as he does is unlikely.
Dave
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Sucks for Motorola. I really had hope this would be a big battle for the long lasting.

starable said:
Sucks for Motorola. I really had hope this would be a big battle for the long lasting.
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I thought that steve jobs was gone, apple would stop these law suits but it seems to be differing
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The patent trolling will never end.

Patent fraud is some really easy money, especially when you've got easy victories guaranteed, like Apple does.

Firetribe said:
Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all...
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Motorola sued apple first, which started the ball rolling..

Tone_ said:
Motorola sued apple first, which started the ball rolling..
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Motorola sued after apple didn't pay licencing fees in 2010, something apple still won't pay. Bit different to apple suing because phones can auto complete text for example.
Motorola sued for a good reason but apple do so to stifle competition.
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So ridiculous.
European courts seem to be all over Apple's side.

mistermentality said:
Motorola sued after apple didn't pay licencing fees in 2010, something apple still won't pay. Bit different to apple suing because phones can auto complete text for example.
Motorola sued for a good reason but apple do so to stifle competition.
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saw this and i thought i would say that apple originally started all of this by suing google and HTC first
they r trying to hold back developemnet becuz thats all apple has done is steal and try and stop competition
in the long run apple will fall
and ppl only buy apple products cuz they br pretty i buy google products for quality and interfacing
all in all apple products r made for the stupid and wealthy while android/windows r made for ppl that want to improve thru the reason y google is open source

Long live open source!
Apple are thieves.
Buy an Apple product and you support your own demise.
Wake up people!
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Do your own research and decide. His name is mud on Slashdot and Groklaw. Here's one article. found at m.paidcontent.org/article/419-is-patent-expertblogger-florian-mueller-getting-too-cozy-with-microsoft/
Partial quote:
The problem lies not with Mueller’s analysis—but with his impartiality. The engineer is right when he says that Mueller has the knives out for Google. Even a casual reader of the FOSS blog can easily discern that Mueller is quick to amplify any legal setback for Google’s Android or its affiliates. His tone can be crowing and haughty—see the tendentious “Google scores an Own Goal” post about Motorola (NYSE: MMI)—and for all the world echoes Microsoft’s own “they’re getting what they deserve” attitude to Google.
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Anyone noticed an increase in Apple fanboy articles bashing Android since yesterday?

Definitely a lot more than usual, they must be panicking

I see a lot more android fanboy posts bashing apple. Must be the panicking.

monkeyluis said:
I see a lot more android fanboy posts bashing apple. Must be the panicking.
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That's probably due to the high profile court cases this week where some androids were banned for violating patents such as being able to act on a phone number you've been sent in a message (data tapping) and having a unified search feature (siri patent).
People rightly get annoyed when a big company patents things that were in use before the patent and then uses them to stifle the competition.
Dave
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Well lately its been sad news in the Android world because Flash Player is no longer supported on 4.1 and Gnex was banned.

And yet both side can't change anything.. let's grab some popcorn
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^+1

Its those kind of Apple Fanboys that gives good and kind iPeople a bad name.

Let them KEEP BARKING LIKE STRAY DOGS. They are afraid that their iOS is loosing to the New Generation of Android phones, so inorder to stay in top they are trying to make android's position low.
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ifanboy raging ? :highfive:

mistermentality said:
That's probably due to the high profile court cases this week where some androids were banned for violating patents such as being able to act on a phone number you've been sent in a message (data tapping) and having a unified search feature (siri patent).
People rightly get annoyed when a big company patents things that were in use before the patent and then uses them to stifle the competition.
Dave
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Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.

monkeyluis said:
Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.
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Pretty sure apple patenting anothers ideas then suing over people using them is just a little worse, and does more to hold tech back, than motorola who are owned by google allegedly charging a high price for patent rights.
One copies existing ideas and then stops rivals using them while not allowing them to licence the rights, the other own patents vital to tech products and lets anyone use them but possibly overcharges.
Pretty big difference between them.
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jahider said:
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Seriously can you stop spamming so many threads?
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monkeyluis said:
Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.
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The thing about Apple getting in hot water over frand is that they didn't pay the frand rate at all.
Motorola objected as it should be paid.
Now Apple have entered into a frand agreement, however they want to have their cake and eat it by not paying for the time they were illegally using the patents.
As they hadn't entered into a frand agreement with Motorola back then, Motorola is not obliged to charge a frand rate and so want to charge a compensatory rate that punishes Apple for breaking the ethics of frand. This upsets Apple and the protectionist US authorities.
Had Apple played by the rules in the first place they'd not be in this mess but they wanted to rip off Motorola so must pay the price.

This is xda not androidCentral or imore. Keep the fan crap out!

It is time a new OS to pop out and steal everything the others got lol
We will have the perfect smartphone and they can spend all their money in court muahahaha

smile_ppl said:
Well lately its been sad news in the Android world because Flash Player is no longer supported on 4.1 and Gnex was banned.
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There not supporting flags player!? :O
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Yeah I have too, it's quite funny to read through, honestly.

Just proves how "evil" Apple is. A company that plays dirty tricks to stifle the competition is highly unattractive towards me.
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I bet the American court system won't have the balls to ban sales of the Xbox 360 due to the courtroom loss of Microsoft to Motorola since Microsoft is an American company.

Looks like there already is a new os make by mozila, with a android kernel and a "mordern" UI~

Google Vs Apple the Facts

With All the legal wrangling going on Apple has made some pretty outrageous claims about how they did "XXX" 1st and Google copied them.
Well, here is some facts (proof) to refute the claims.......
See for yourself........
http://team-nocturnal.tumblr.com/post/26388747742/proof-apple-stole-from-google-boycottapple

Now Google needs to sue the hell out of apple.
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rolltide1995 said:
Now Google needs to sue the hell out of apple.
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Agreed
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oka1 said:
With All the legal wrangling going on Apple has made some pretty outrageous claims about how they did "XXX" 1st and Google copied them.
Well, here is some facts (proof) to refute the claims.......
See for yourself........
http://team-nocturnal.tumblr.com/post/26388747742/proof-apple-stole-from-google-boycottapple
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May your child be a masculine child. Nice to see it presented clearly for any idgets who are incapable of understanding facts in print. I can't wait until that patent is granted.

MissionImprobable said:
May your child be a masculine child. Nice to see it presented clearly for any idgets who are incapable of understanding facts in print. I can't wait until that patent is granted.
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Apple is going to sue for them patenting their stolen idea.
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Jealousy
I was an avid Apple user, switched to Android, and staying that way. I believe that Apple is upset that they can come up with an idea at the same time Android developers do, but android does it faster and better every time. When apple announced Siri, before it was even out; Android users had similar programs already such as Iris(Iris being created after of course).

We had Google Voice Search since uhh... the G1. September of 2008.

Nice
This morning I slightly moved my mom away from thinking about an iphone for her first smartphone. The main thing that got her was the terrible working conditions and suicide side nets that had to be installed.
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Apple actually failed this time

They tried to get an emergency ban on HTC products, but were denied.
It seems as if Apple is getting scared now.
Check it out
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the comments are hilarious lmao

jianC said:
the comments are hilarious lmao
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Haha they are. Don't get me wrong, I like all manufacturers, including Apple. When you try to stoop that low to remove other devices off the market just because you can, that's just wrong and disgusting.
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They've also lost in the UK
(may have been posted elsewhere, I couldn't find it though)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18709232
The four patents at stake were:
1. Unlocking a device by performing a gesture on an image.
2. The use of a multilingual keyboard offering different alphabets on portable devices, including mobile phones.
3. A system to determine which elements of a screen were activated by single-finger touches; which were activated multi-finger touches and which ignored touches altogether.
4. Letting a user drag an image beyond its limits and then showing it bounce back into place to illustrate that they had reached its furthest edge.
The judge ruled that the first three patents were invalid in this case, while the fourth did not apply to HTC's devices.
Lawyers fighting other lawsuits against Apple are likely to pay close attention to the decision regarding its slide-to-unlock patent.
The judge said that HTC's "arc unlock" feature - which also involves a predefined gesture along a path shown on-screen - would have infringed Apple's technology had it not been for a device released in 2004.
The Neonode N1 showed a padlock on its screen with the words "right sweep to unlock" when it was in its protected mode. A later version replaced the text with an arrow.
The judge said it would have been an "obvious" improvement for the developers to have offered users visual feedback in the form of a "slider" in the way that Apple later used.
He added that the concept of a "slider" was not new since it had already appeared in Microsoft's CE system.
As a result Apple's claim to the innovation was rejected.
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I know there's at least one intelligent judge in California and one in D.C., but it seems like the rest are all in other countries. Sad that American judges are so clearly biased by the corporate atmosphere of this country. Sadder still that I'm having to talk about all this nonsense on the 4th of July.

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I know there's at least one intelligent judge in California and one in D.C., but it seems like the rest are all in other countries. Sad that American judges are so clearly biased by the corporate atmosphere of this country. Sadder still that I'm having to talk about all this nonsense on the 4th of July.
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Agreed.
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KayxGee1 said:
They tried to get an emergency ban on HTC products, but were denied.
It seems as if Apple is getting scared now.
Check it out
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they are even the one x will probaly beat the frigging daylights out of the i crap 5

paintball23456 said:
they are even the one x will probaly beat the frigging daylights out of the i crap 5
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I wouldn't call it icrap. They are pretty good phones really. Just the company behind them has become "evil".

I will pay 10$ to anyone who will blow an Apple store with a RPG.
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DD-Ripper said:
I will pay 10$ to anyone who will blow an Apple store with a RPG.
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I know you are probably kidding, but common...

snappjay said:
I know you are probably kidding, but common...
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No. Im serious. But nobody would do that for only 10$
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DD-Ripper said:
I will pay 10$ to anyone who will blow an Apple store with a RPG.
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lol i havent got an rpg so can i borrow yours
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DD-Ripper said:
I will pay 10$ to anyone who will blow an Apple store with a RPG.
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$1000 NOOOOO THE APPLE HQ

Couldn't agree more with the majority of the comments. It seems Apple really are getting too big for their boots, and trying to throw their substantial weight around. Pleased to see someone stand up to them and put them in their place, for once.

Can't wait to see Apple patent the air we breathe... and name it iAir which syncs with iCloud and iRain....

TotalManiac said:
Can't wait to see Apple patent the air we breathe... and name it iAir which syncs with iCloud and iRain....
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I know your joking but given that an american company patented dna nothing would surprise me
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DD-Ripper said:
No. Im serious. But nobody would do that for only 10$
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Maybe we could get this guy to do it for free
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57465015-71/man-destroys-t-mobile-store-in-a-fit-of-anger/

i think something wroing is going with apple , they are almost against all phones... and i just hate it .

Apples iPhone craze is just a phase. It'll soon be in the closet with our pet rocks and the members only jacket, and the furby( not nearly enough of this met the end to a gun.. who would make such an annoying toy)
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