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Xiaomi Phone with MIUI + 1.5Ghz Dual Magic for 310 bucks

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/
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If you've already seen the Xiaomi M1 announcement about a month ago, well, forget it, because Xiaomi has already made some significant changes since then. What we've just learned from today's Beijing launch event is that the M1 -- now officially "Xiaomi Phone" -- no longer packs a 1.2GHz dual-core chip; instead, it's been given a bump to a Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC, thus becoming the first Chinese phone to sport a 1.5GHz dual-core chip. As part of the Snapdragon package, the phone is also powered by a powerful Adreno 220 graphics processor, which will no doubt make good use of the phone's 1GB RAM and a staggering 4GB ROM. Oh, and that ¥2,600 (about US$410) price tag? It's now ¥1,999 ($310), and will be available for pre-order on August 29th for October delivery. Read on for more surprises!
Update: We've just been informed that there will also be a 1.2GHz version available for an even cheaper price!
Update 2: Our hands-on post is up!
Xiaomi Phone with MIUI OS: a $310 phone with 1.5GHz dual-core SoC and other surprises
Unlike most phones with a 1400mAh or 1500mAh battery these days, the Xiaomi Phone gets a ginormous 1930mAh cell instead, and we're promised to get two days worth of real-life usage out of it -- CEO Lei Jun emphasised the "real-life" part, so we shall see. Another surprise -- albeit an odd one -- is that this phone supports both GPS (with A-GPS) and Russia's GLONASS, meaning President Medvedev can navigate around his country just fine while updating his Weibo Twitter.
As for the rest, you get a 4-inch 480 x 854 LCD courtesy of Sharp (LCD for better outdoor performance, and 4 inches for Asian ergonomics), three touch buttons below the screen, a customisable "Mi key" (camera shutter or Weibo; long press for home screen), an eight megapixel camera with an F2.4 lens, and a dual antenna design that plays well with any kind of grip (obviously a little wink at Apple). Dimension-wise we're looking at 125mm x 63mm x 11.9mm, weighing 149g or 5.3 ounces -- just a tad heavier than the iPhone 4. As for accessories, we're told that there will cases in at least seven bright colors, along with spare batteries of the same set of colors (that's how awesome Xiaomi is).
Of course, let's not forget the real star here: the MIUI (pronounced "mee-you-eye") OS, which is a low-level custom UI based on Android 2.3.5. There's no question about MIUI's rapidly increasing popularity in recent years (Xiaomi quoted a user base of about 500,000), but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that this phone lets you flash whatever firmware you like.
If you're starting to doubt the Xiaomi Phone's reliability, you shouldn't -- we've been told that this phone's been thoroughly torture-tested in the lab, simulating two years worth of usage. "This is why we take much longer than shanzhai factories to make a phone," said the CEO. We'll see about that in two months time, really looking forward to it.
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i dun speak/read chinese

I hope its translated into English...if not this seems like a great birthday present for my dad

This thing is pretty awesome. Look at the price for the hardware people...$300...1.5Ghz dual core. Good camera, decent screen. Big battery, customizable....hell if it supports US 3G bands, that's make it an instant sell.

Can you put CM7 on it?
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Jasonhunterx said:
Can you put CM7 on it?
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.

}{Alienz}{ said:
This thing is pretty awesome. Look at the price for the hardware people...$300...1.5Ghz dual core. Good camera, decent screen. Big battery, customizable....hell if it supports US 3G bands, that's make it an instant sell.
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Looks like it has the bands to support AT&T 3G.

Get this phone if you dont feel like Waiting forever to get your phone updated to the latest Android release.

I am thinking when will there a CM phone

xriderx66 said:
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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"...but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that this phone lets you flash whatever firmware you like."
i'm assuming that means unlocked bootloader and superuser capabilities. and given the awesomeness of this phone it will be a /very/ short wait for cm7 to support this phone. i'm guessing the dev community will be huge if this phone delivers on it's promised awesomeness

I am extremely interested in this phone.
I find it interesting that the price point that this phone comes in at is just a little more then most of our new phones in the US with a 2 year contract!
Talk about getting ripped off!

xriderx66 said:
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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It was a joke calm down
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I might buy cuz I switching to att but keeping vibe as my main just want to experience dual core cuz this is great price might wait a little after release an buy on Craigslist or eBay lol I'm cheap
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it'll be on ebay as "ships from USA", for $450 to get it that week. or you can play the customs games from hong kong shippers and wait 21-28 days to *hopefully* get the phone. i'll stick with newer devices hood rats sell on craigslist because they can't afford the bill they promised to pay. =P

jamesd86 said:
it'll be on ebay as "ships from USA", for $450 to get it that week. or you can play the customs games from hong kong shippers and wait 21-28 days to *hopefully* get the phone. i'll stick with newer devices hood rats sell on craigslist because they can't afford the bill they promised to pay. =P
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Lmao me to seen a galaxy s2 for 450 but not ready to move on from vibrant phone is just to awesome
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xriderx66 said:
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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I think MIUI is based of CM.. so the answer is yes

Someone's going to get sued.
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I am also looking forward for this phone. Will it be available in INDIA??
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amitanshu said:
I am also looking forward for this phone. Will it be available in INDIA??
LG OPTIMUS P500, mik's OS 2.3.4
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specs are pretty amazing for a $300 non contract phone. wonder what 3g/4g networks it will work on for us in the the US...?

Why in US phones comes with contract??
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Samsung confirms they are making Nexus Prime?

It looks like Samsung has been forced to admit they are the ones working on the nexus prime, is anyone else as disappointed as I am about that?
Samsung accidentally confirms the Nexus Prime?
"To <recipient>
It has come to our attention that you are wrongfully in possession of, and intend to release or otherwise publicly disclose without Samsung’s consent, firmware for the Nexus Prime. By this letter, Samsung orders you to immediate cease, desist, and refrain from any and all such activities.
The Nexus Prime firmware is the exclusive property of Samsung and/or its partners, suppliers and affiliates. Any continued retention, use, or disclosure of Nexus Prime firmware, and/or Samsung’s confidential, proprietary, and trade secret information pertaining to Nexus Prime, will expose you to significant liability, both civil and potentially criminal.
Samsung expects your immediate compliance with the terms of this letter. You are instructed to contact my office immediately to discuss the return of Nexus Prime data in your possession and other remedial action. Samsung reserves all rights.
By this letter, you are also put on notice of your obligation not to alter, modify, delete, erase, or destroy, or cause or permit anyone else to alter, modify, delete, erase, or destroy, any evidence pertaining to the subject matter of this letter.
Thank you for immediate cooperation.
<Email sender>
General Counsel
Samsung Telecommunications America, LLC."

Eh...typical S. Korean mentality. They think they can intimidate people into doing what they want.

MartyLK said:
Eh...typical S. Korean mentality. They think they can intimidate people into doing what they want.
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What does this have anything to do with south korean mentality? Someone has in their possession something that belongs to samsung that wasn't released to public and they're demanding that person to return it. That's an issue?
Is this any different than what jason chan from gizmodo went through with iphone4 leakage to a lesser extreme?
You've been ranting about samsung in every other post. If you don't like the company, just don't buy their product

I am very disappointed
i was hoping that htc will be the next one again
they did great job with nexus one

Someone on another site that reported on this stated that the letter didn't seem to be well enough written to be from a Samsung lawyer and the more I read it the more I start to agree. "By this letter?" Even I could find a dozen ways to say that in a more grammatically correct way...

LosT SpiriT said:
I am very disappointed
i was hoping that htc will be the next one again
they did great job with nexus one
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That's kind of what I'm thinking. I've never owned an android phone from Samsung so I don't have any first hand experience with them, but after hearing complaints about their lack of support and their under performing radios for Sprint I'm weary of them.
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Someone on another site that reported on this stated that the letter didn't seem to be well enough written to be from a Samsung lawyer and the more I read it the more I start to agree. "By this letter?" Even I could find a dozen ways to say that in a more grammatically correct way...
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I saw that too after reading some of the comments from people about it, they also fail to give a source for where they found it at. Although, by the looks of how Nexus Prime is highlighted it may have accidentally been indexed by Google. As Yale just found a few days ago Google is very good at finding stuff it's not supposed to and exposing it for the whole world to see.

LosT SpiriT said:
I am very disappointed
i was hoping that htc will be the next one again
they did great job with nexus one
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yes，agree with you.also like htc

xHausx said:
That's kind of what I'm thinking. I've never owned an android phone from Samsung so I don't have any first hand experience with them, but after hearing complaints about their lack of support and their under performing radios for Sprint I'm weary of them.
I saw that too after reading some of the comments from people about it, they also fail to give a source for where they found it at. Although, by the looks of how Nexus Prime is highlighted it may have accidentally been indexed by Google. As Yale just found a few days ago Google is very good at finding stuff it's not supposed to and exposing it for the whole world to see.
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Lack of updates only applies to the US carrier devices as the international version of galaxy s was updated to gingerbread before pretty much anyone else. Also this is a nexus device we're discussing here. No matter who the manufacturer is, update will be released on these devices first

the nexus s, was....meh, samsung pretty much was known to be making it ever since they announced the prime. that pic that was leaked a few months ago (the one with the phone sitting on the fur rug) i could have told you right away that was a sammy.
i'm not a big fan of the sammy's. mainly because without a rubber case or bumper, their phones are VERY VERY VERY VERY easy to drop.

Kiboe said:
the nexus s, was....meh, samsung pretty much was known to be making it ever since they announced the prime. that pic that was leaked a few months ago (the one with the phone sitting on the fur rug) i could have told you right away that was a sammy.
i'm not a big fan of the sammy's. mainly because without a rubber case or bumper, their phones are VERY VERY VERY VERY easy to drop.
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I've just come to the conclusion that a massive water proof case in an added cost to any smartphone these days...

This is going to Verizon only?

luckymeeh said:
This is going to Verizon only?
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Well Verizon says they aren't getting the SGS2 because thy are already getting another Samsung device and Tmoble, Sprint and ATT are all getting the SGS2 refresh so it would appear to me that Verizon wont be the only carrier to get the Nexus Prime but it seems that Verizon may be the sole carrier for a limited time.

iLiberate said:
Well Verizon says they aren't getting the SGS2 because thy are already getting another Samsung device and Tmoble, Sprint and ATT are all getting the SGS2 refresh so it would appear to me that Verizon wont be the only carrier to get the Nexus Prime but it seems that Verizon may be the sole carrier for a limited time.
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No Nexus device became available in CDMA only model when it launched. Either they are getting a world phone or they are getting it later ala Nexus S 4G
No way Google decides something like this. Bet my head on this

narta said:
No Nexus device became available in CDMA only model when it launched. Either they are getting a world phone or they are getting it later ala Nexus S 4G
No way Google decides something like this. Bet my head on this
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I hope you're right it would just seem odd to release the SGS2 then release the Nexus prime a couple weeks later...

When google first released the nexus s it wasnt directly thru tmobile. You had to go to best buy. I wonder if the nexus prime will be one phone for all carriers, one phone that is open with gsm/ cdma capability and all bands for world use.
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I hope that the email is fake lol Samsung's screens are aweful imo they have yellow tints to the whites and their phones always feel cheap. id like it to be made by HTC. Idk how the bid goes on to make the nexus line if its based off of $ it will be hard for another company to get the contract seeing how Samsung has deep pockets...
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ckoadiyn said:
I hope that the email is fake lol Samsung's screens are aweful imo they have yellow tints to the whites and their phones always feel cheap. id like it to be made by HTC. Idk how the bid goes on to make the nexus line if its based off of $ it will be hard for another company to get the contract seeing how Samsung has deep pockets...
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Samsung's screen is so awful that this late in the game, LG jumped into the amoled race :rollseye:

ph00ny said:
Samsung's screen is so awful that this late in the game, LG jumped into the amoled race :rollseye:
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Just hate how the whites went white man the darker colors are nice but the fact that they can't get white whites annoy me also they need to make it qhd
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I have the nexus s and I got to say. It is a lovely phone. I am not happy or disappointed that they are making the next nexus. Personally I thought it would of been Motorola as Google have bought them out now. Or maybe LG was the other speculation. I hope this phone dont have the efs folder like the galaxy s and the nexus s has as that has caused a lot problem with people losing there imei number when flashing roms.
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ckoadiyn said:
Just hate how the whites went white man the darker colors are nice but the fact that they can't get white whites annoy me also they need to make it qhd
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Darker colors aren't the only ones to be excited about. Unlike most typical LCD panels which can't support the whole color gamut, amoled panels typically exceed the color gamut support along with other benefits such as overall thinner panel package and power efficiency difference from lack of backlight usage
oh yeah yellow tint is really bad on these phones right? In real life, my laptop screen looks more yellowish than my phone
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No ICS... yet, from Samsung

Just asked in Twitter and this is the answer:
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So sad!

That is really sad.
P6200 has almost the same spec as galaxy tabs 2 7.0 and it should be an easy job for Samsung to write the ics update of P6200.
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While I question is this is the right section for this post, I'll just add that I did chat with Samsung support yesterday in regards to ICS. Peel support (remote control app) basically told me that my LCD TV (Olevia brand) has an issue that is known and is going to be fixed in ICS. So I of course as Samsung when ICS is coming and was told "IF it is released, not when".
I clarified with him a number of times.
He stood by If not when it is released.

Samsung has already announced that they will be releasing ICS for the Tab Plus:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
If you look about halfway down it says:
"ICS for GALAXY Note, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY R, GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus, 7.7, 8.9, 8.9 LTE and 10.1 will follow soon"
lokijux2 said:
While I question is this is the right section for this post, I'll just add that I did chat with Samsung support yesterday in regards to ICS. Peel support (remote control app) basically told me that my LCD TV (Olevia brand) has an issue that is known and is going to be fixed in ICS. So I of course as Samsung when ICS is coming and was told "IF it is released, not when".
I clarified with him a number of times.
He stood by If not when it is released.
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Well the release of tab 2 will be end of April so we can expect ics a month or two after that. They have to make money after all.
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Why Do I Want ICS BTW?
I've had my 7+ for 6 months now. Other than the low-level audio problem, I'm extremely happy with the way it performs. I'm not a gamer. I'm not a tinkerer. I don't want to design my own fancy UI with cool animation. I don't want to do any 'work' on the Tab.
I just want to look at and listen to stuff. I even found a Media Player that finally displays the Album Art properly. Netflix works, OfficeSuite works, PowerAmp, TuneIn, email, they all work. Perfectly (almost).
I feel like I'm missing some majorly cool stuff that I won't be able to do as I sit here happily noodling along with Honeycomb while you lot are all blazing away with ICS, doing something else. What do I need ICS for?

rtfm1777 said:
I've had my 7+ for 6 months now. Other than the low-level audio problem, I'm extremely happy with the way it performs. I'm not a gamer. I'm not a tinkerer. I don't want to design my own fancy UI with cool animation. I don't want to do any 'work' on the Tab.
I just want to look at and listen to stuff. I even found a Media Player that finally displays the Album Art properly. Netflix works, OfficeSuite works, PowerAmp, TuneIn, email, they all work. Perfectly (almost).
I feel like I'm missing some majorly cool stuff that I won't be able to do as I sit here happily noodling along with Honeycomb while you lot are all blazing away with ICS, doing something else. What do I need ICS for?
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I want it for the Peel remote fixes and the hope that the HBO GO app is finally compatible with our device. Not to mention lockscreen player capability added to Google Music.

Could always be worse (not much worse) but we could just get a "value pack" like Galaxy S devices.
Bahahahaha.

Is anyone really surprised that Samsung is taking their time to rollout an update?
But seriously, I always say that I am never buying another Samsung device for this reason, but then I always end up buying another Samsung device.

The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0's release is being delayed to the end of the month, according to Samsung themselves. The reason is because they just haven't got ICS working properly with the device yet.
Whilst this is no doubt frustrating for some, at least they are waiting until they've got it ready. There's a general tacit acceptance that any release of any products software will come with bugs that will reveal themselves, and I for one would rather wait a little longer so that the "final" product has less of the buggers to deal with when released.
Whilst Samsung won't confirm I think that it is reasonable to assume that when the Tab 2 gets released then there should be ICS for our beloved Tab+ following swiftly afterwards... Aside from the slower CPU (and why is the newer product getting a slower ) the two units are pretty darn similar, are they not ?
And lets be honest, it's not as if our beloved Tab+ is suffering terribly with Honeycomb... IT IS A GREAT STANDALONE product. Want it to look different? Go investigate some of the Launchers available from the app store/market. Want it to perform differently? Take a manup pill and ROM the bastard, I managed it, and I'm a grumpy old Windows luddite.

Some people are speculating that the hold up for the Tab 2 is due to it using the new Broadcom SoC. The Tab Plus uses the Exynos which is already working for ICS on the SGSII.
Of course, this is just hearsay and speculative but I do hope the development for ICS on the Tab Plus is just as much completed as it is on the Tab 2.
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The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0's release is being delayed to the end of the month, according to Samsung themselves. The reason is because they just haven't got ICS working properly with the device yet.
Whilst this is no doubt frustrating for some, at least they are waiting until they've got it ready. There's a general tacit acceptance that any release of any products software will come with bugs that will reveal themselves, and I for one would rather wait a little longer so that the "final" product has less of the buggers to deal with when released.
Whilst Samsung won't confirm I think that it is reasonable to assume that when the Tab 2 gets released then there should be ICS for our beloved Tab+ following swiftly afterwards... Aside from the slower CPU (and why is the newer product getting a slower ) the two units are pretty darn similar, are they not ?
And lets be honest, it's not as if our beloved Tab+ is suffering terribly with Honeycomb... IT IS A GREAT STANDALONE product. Want it to look different? Go investigate some of the Launchers available from the app store/market. Want it to perform differently? Take a manup pill and ROM the bastard, I managed it, and I'm a grumpy old Windows luddite.
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bittersound said:
And lets be honest, it's not as if our beloved Tab+ is suffering terribly with Honeycomb... IT IS A GREAT STANDALONE product. Want it to look different? Go investigate some of the Launchers available from the app store/market. Want it to perform differently? Take a manup pill and ROM the bastard, I managed it, and I'm a grumpy old Windows luddite.
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Agreed. In fact, the Tab+ is running what I believe is a newer version of Honeycomb than what was generally available on other devices (most HC tablets were running 3.0 or 3.1, Tab+ is running 3.2).
Honeycomb got a particularly bad rap for having a buggy initial release that needed a couple of minor updates to get everything ironed out. What most folks seem to be overlooking is that ICS was pretty much the exact same way. My wife's Xoom is running ICS and it got another point release just last week that fixed some stability issues and problems with screen rotations.
I won't lie, I'd like an upgrade to ICS but I don't want to go from fully-baked HC to half-baked ICS either. And having used a Tab+ w/HC3.2 side by side to a Xoom w/ICS, I honestly don't think us Tab+ users are missing out on a whole lot.

I just purchased by GT7+ a few weeks ago, and I'm very happy with the device and Honeycomb seems to work just fine.
I do have some experience with releasing software for consumer devices. I'm in the operations group supporting a product with millions of customer devices. Finalizing and releasing software is a grueling process. Making sure that no one missed that one bug that will drive customer service calls is an ordeal. When a bug is found... Reset, everything starts over with the new build.
I don't mind waiting (granted since I'm a new owner I'm not really waiting) if they get it right the first time it will be worth it.

they needa hurry:-| remove all that bloatware i say! i assume this tablet is very new? i just got it so im not hundred precent sure on when it was released to the consumer i just would like to see why its taking alot of ram and be able to run newest software;-)

announcement regarding ICS coming in July

Announcement:
With the recent announcement that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus series will be getting ICS next month (in July), and the implied failure of Samsung to deliver ICS in June after previously announcing it, Samsung has managed to take over the Second Greatest Lie in the World, displacing "I won't cum in your mouth." If Samsung succeeds in this same pattern for the next 8 months, it will have a shot at taking over the top spot, still held by "The check is in the mail." The current top three Greatest Lies in the World, in rank order, are:
#1: The check is in the mail.
#2: You'll get ICS next month.
#3: I won't cum in your mouth.
Company representatives declined to be interviewed officially for this story, stating that they'll make an official press release in the beginning of next month. However, they have allowed information to leak anonymously that Samsung believes they have held the #2 spot all along, as "I won't cum in your mouth" only applies to Apple products sold in the USA.
In addition, Samsung lawyers have filed in injunction in Canadian courts attempting to displace "The check is in the mail." According to the documents filed, Samsung believes that this statement must be broken into two seperate statements, one for paper mail and another for electronic mail. Doing so would allow Samsung's ICS promise to overtake the number one spot.
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LOL. Hope Samsung is reading this thread.

ahhahaha EPIC

Must be getting old :fingers-crossed:. i thought the number one lie was "The Dog Ate It!" :cyclops:

Damn gary, I thought you did known better.
Ics update to us is "eligible" for one of the greatest lies. There is no real position for it yet.
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Did they happen to mention July of what year?

GTOJim said:
Did they happen to mention July of what year?
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Hmm, I think you probably meant to say "of what decade".

Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?

Why did you wrote this post. Do you think we would agree with you even remotely. I think you'd better farted.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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A) Better battery life, better memory management, the ability to clear the Recent Apps list, the ability to use Chrome, the ability to save videos offline in the YouTube app, fixed Wifi Sleep of Death issues, upgraded standard browser... The list goes on.
B) If the Nexus 7 shows up in store soon, I may well do so.
Most of those people would jump ship if there was a reasonable alternative available. Enter the Nexus 7 and maybe Asus's original tablet.

I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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leodfs said:
I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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I'm pissed with HC because it's still bugged - it's not GPU accelerated and gets sluggish at times, and many various bugs aren't patched - those fixes come in ICS (as listed above). More importantly Google appears to have completely abandoned HC support in favour of the unified ICS OS, which incorporates fixes and improvements to performance, battery life, various kernel bugs which caused the Sleep of Death problems, and more software is getting out there which either needs ICS for full functionality (or to run at all).
And the worst part? Samsung's been making empty promises for months, while pushing out tablets which are very similar to the 7+ in hardware with ICS already in place. All the while talking about how the original devices are eligible for upgrades... but then mysteriously letting the deadlines get extended. Even for Nexus devices, some of which are still waiting for current versions of ICS - yet they're able to ship out new Galaxy S III's with the most current Honeycomb version in markets where Galaxy Nexus phones are still waiting for 4.0.2 or 4.0.4 (which is on the Galaxy S III). It's obviously not a problem with being unable to recompile the radios or whatever's delaying those devices - it seems more that they're unwilling to deliver updates to keep your phone secure and current in features, and would much rather you buy a new device. Even if you're on the 'pure Android' Nexus, much less one of the Galaxy Tabs like what most of the people here have.
I'm just very, very glad that Asus got the Nexus 7 tablet - at least they deliver updates, even if some of the updates need fixing on occasion.

The only reason a Galaxy Nexus would be waiting on an updated is because of the carrier that it is on. Different carrier set-ups require different software tweaks. That's why only unlocked GSM devices are "true" Nexus devices.
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Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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I agree with you about the Samsung not updating thing because it isn't exactly new, so we really have no real grounds to complain about common knowledge.

nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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Well u must put in consideration that not all of us use our tabs the same am I right? I agree that its not really that big of a deal. But I can see how it can for some people. Me and my friend bought the same tab but he uses it for almost everything. From entertainment(movies, gaming YouTube...) to school work. And I have seen his device its not as fast as mine. And if ics seems more promising then maybe its worth a shot. Its free right? You've got nothing to loose really? But personally I've tried ics on my sisters Sony tab and I must say that honestly there is a substantial difference in performance. As for heavy users I mean. But hey its just an update its a win win situation for everyone right?

Oh man, that was funny. Although, I was always under the impression that the number one lie in the world was, "I love you too."

The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf

SWFlyerUK said:
The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf
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Hopefully it will be out real soon...

Well, in my experiance of manuals being put on the website - the firmware has been released the following week. Has happened with Archos a few times.

Samsung Gear S2 Disappointment

I dont Know why samsung canceled the speaker to make calls or answer it without take phone from your pocket like gear 2 ?????

re-2007 said:
I dont Know why samsung canceled the speaker to make calls or answer it without take phone from your pocket like gear 2 ?????
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Huh?
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re-2007 said:
I dont Know why samsung canceled the speaker to make calls or answer it without take phone from your pocket like gear 2 ?????
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From what I've read, they didn't take that out.
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Not as Moto 360 level though

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Not as Moto 360 level though
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What do you mean?

that means - I prefer Moto 360 for its feature than Samsung Gear S2. this is my personal opinion

I have the 3G version Gear S on Sprint and had little 'disappointed when the announcements were coming through the device to AT & T, Verizon and US Cellular, but made no mention of Sprint?
I really like 3G connectivity now have, and could not easily return to the possession of a Smart Watch it.

Samsung has a proud history
Richly presented. Poor English by some of the speakers, sometimes making it difficult to understand. The bezel is a no brainier, although I'm sure that we will see improved versions over time. I hope that the processor is up to the task, because it seems that Samsung has had a good product on their hands. There is a vibrant community of wear, and more than 10,000 circular faces of clocks, most of them for free. S2 will be able to keep up? I would like the 3G version, provided that the battery capacity is up to it, but it seems that will be available only in some markets. In addition, Samsung has a proud history of abandon and do not update their products, which makes me hesitate. The clock, however, looks much better in terms of interface than anything else out there right now.

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my friend ... that mean there is microphone ....this for s voice,voice memory ..etc .....what l mean speaker to receive calls,listen music ... as samsung gear 2 ....thanks

re-2007 said:
I dont Know why samsung canceled the speaker to make calls or answer it without take phone from your pocket like gear 2 ?????
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This is actually a good point. I never paid attention to it because I knew I was getting the 3g. Interesting why they took this out. So you won't be able to answer calls from your regular S2? That kinda stinks....
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Android_Fr3ak said:
This is actually a good point. I never paid attention to it because I knew I was getting the 3g. Interesting why they took this out. So you won't be able to answer calls from your regular S2? That kinda stinks....
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According to this article there will be a speaker but only on the 3G variant: https://www.androidpit.com/samsung-gear-s2-review

Oh crap sold my Gear 2 in readiness but no ability to answer from the watch was very useful for me.

Looks like a possible oct 2nd release with pricing at 300 - 325.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_gear_...nada_shipping_begins_october_2-blog-13981.php

supersoulfly said:
Looks like a possible oct 2nd release with pricing at 300 - 325.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_gear_...nada_shipping_begins_october_2-blog-13981.php
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That's good news if true. Cheaper than I thought. Can anyone from Canada confirm this?
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Android_Fr3ak said:
That's good news if true. Cheaper than I thought. Can anyone from Canada confirm this?
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Yes Oct 2 in Canada too. S2 and S2 classic now available for pre-order on bestbuy.ca. 3G to be made available at a later date.

Android_Fr3ak said:
That's good news if true. Cheaper than I thought. Can anyone from Canada confirm this?
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Just FYI, I went to bestbuy.ca (as opposed to .com) and the gear s2 information is there.
http://m.bestbuy.ca/?lang=en#/m/search_m.aspx?q=gear s2&lang=en-CA
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I would be very disappointed if this is true - since this is one of the few stand out features from the standard crop of Android Wear devices. I like using the Speaker phone feature from the Gear2 Neo - since my phone is not water resistant like the watch...
Maybe there's some sort of misunderstanding between the Samsung press releases and the reviewers? It may be that Samsung is trying to emphasize that the e-sim will allow them to make calls directly instead of going through the phone - like the standard watch model?
Samsung's built in plenty of apps that you'd expect to see on a smartwatch — phone dialer, calculator, music, phone finder, etc.
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Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2-hands
Also - some of the reviewer pictures show the Phone Dialer icon:
Image Source: http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/0...classic-now-available-to-pre-order-in-canada/
So - unless they were actually looking at the pre-production HW of the 3G models... I'm still hoping that the speaker phone functionality is still there. I guess everyone will find out for sure at the beginning of October.
Another possibility is that the watch might function as the microphone and playback the caller's voice over the phone's speaker? Kinda strange way of doing things.

ksoze said:
I would be very disappointed if this is true - since this is one of the few stand out features from the standard crop of Android Wear devices. I like using the Speaker phone feature from the Gear2 Neo - since my phone is not water resistant like the watch...
Maybe there's some sort of misunderstanding between the Samsung press releases and the reviewers? It may be that Samsung is trying to emphasize that the e-sim will allow them to make calls directly instead of going through the phone - like the standard watch model?
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2-hands
Also - some of the reviewer pictures show the Phone Dialer icon:
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So - unless they were actually looking at the pre-production HW of the 3G models... I'm still hoping that the speaker phone functionality is still there. I guess everyone will find out for sure at the beginning of October.
Another possibility is that the watch might function as the microphone and playback the caller's voice over the phone's speaker? Kinda strange way of doing things.
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I looked on the best buy Canada website and it says it does NOT have a built in speaker.
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Please note: I'm not trying to say that you are wrong - but at this point, it might be better to wait until the watch has been released and before making a final decision - and to make sure you buy from a store that allows returns in the event that this watch has, indeed lost the speakerphone function.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...spx?path=6e6d351fd6b629e8b2fb128cb945f979en02
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