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Just got Samsung Captivate UI is slow?

Just got a Captivate (AT&T Branded S) the device seems awesome but the UI seems sluggish? Any advice to speed up the UI? I was using a HTC aria and the UI on it was much snappier.

What? how? what is the firmware? any bloatware installed on it?

where did you get it.. do you work for them? i dont see it on the website.

atrain987 said:
Just got a Captivate (AT&T Branded S) the device seems awesome but the UI seems sluggish? Any advice to speed up the UI? I was using a HTC aria and the UI on it was much snappier.
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to speed up ui. try he stalling fix.. with the symlink.. assuming the root hack works.. keep us informed.

Job Secuirty
For my job sake I'm really care not to give out that info. It has AT&T apps preinstalled but I'm not sure how that would affect the UI performance? All I know is the HTC "seemed" much faster than this device .

Please let us know if anything changes in terms of perkiness.
What aspects of the UI seems slow?
Responsiveness of touch?
Let us know whats going on, there are lots of interested people out here!

atrain, you'll likely have to do the lag fix mentioned above, I was in the same boat, the myTouch Slide felt much snappier until I did the fix on my carrier-branded Galaxy.

atrain987 said:
Just got a Captivate (AT&T Branded S) the device seems awesome but the UI seems sluggish? Any advice to speed up the UI? I was using a HTC aria and the UI on it was much snappier.
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OMG! I CAN"T WAIT FOR IT :{
I NEEd the releASE DATE.
guys mind my sudden lost of sanity.

Suppose the firmware revisions are different on those, but guess it doesn't hurt to ask: What's the firmware version on it?
(enter *#1234# in the phone app to find out)

Yes, any more information that you could give about the device w/o compromising your career would be appreciated. As mymansionisabox said, there are tons of people here interested.
To the rest of us: if this guy's legit, & he does indeed have a Captivate in-hand, then we can assume he's an AT&T rep of some sort. If they're giving the handsets out to employees for play-time/testing, release must be pretty close. I do find it odd, however, that he thinks the UI is slow, since the innumerable videos on the web from the 6/29 event didn't show any such lag in the Captivate... The only video that showed any UI lag was the Engadget vid where the person shooting was at a Starbucks & admitted that they were playing w/a pre-production device. All of the videos of the Captivate at the 6/29 event (which came after that Engadget vid) showed no such lag.

t-readyroc said:
Yes, any more information that you could give about the device w/o compromising your career would be appreciated. As mymansionisabox said, there are tons of people here interested.
To the rest of us: if this guy's legit, & he does indeed have a Captivate in-hand, then we can assume he's an AT&T rep of some sort. If they're giving the handsets out to employees for play-time/testing, release must be pretty close. I do find it odd, however, that he thinks the UI is slow, since the innumerable videos on the web from the 6/29 event didn't show any such lag in the Captivate...
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But who knows what kind of "improvements" at&t has done to the firmware since showcasing it?

I tried the galaxy s the other day and the UI is indeed slow especially when live wallpapers are active, also got used to the desire's hardware keys which made using the galaxy a bit difficult, also the interface is a bit boring...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

atrain987 said:
For my job sake I'm really care not to give out that info. It has AT&T apps preinstalled but I'm not sure how that would affect the UI performance? All I know is the HTC "seemed" much faster than this device .
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Without showing parts of the UI that might disclose your identity... would you be able to make and post a video of the UI and show the issues that you're experiencing? Short of that... as mentioned before... can you tell us the firmware version and if your Captivate is pre-release or if it is the hardware and software that's going to be "officially" released.

Update
I removed the live wall paper and some large widgets and the UI seems better, I think I was just spoiled by how insanely fast the UI is on the HTC aria.
Can you root the Galaxy S without putting a stock firmware on it? I need to leave the AT&T firmware on the device.
Sorry I am noob on android still.

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tamanaco said:
Without showing parts of the UI that might disclose your identity... would you be able to make and post a video of the UI and show the issues that you're experiencing? Short of that... as mentioned before... can you tell us the firmware version and if your Captivate is pre-release or if it is the hardware and software that's going to be "officially" released.
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Its the release build, but yeah sorry no videos.

atrain987 said:
I think I was just spoiled by how insanely fast the UI is on the HTC aria.
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OK, srsly? I may have to call b.s. on OP. Sure, Aria's UI is quick/responsive, but I find it hard to believe Captivate's that much slower, no matter what AT&T might've done to it since 6/29.
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No videos. Fine. Don't think I'm all-in on this crazy train w/o some sort of proof, though.

Okay
The Captivate is awesome once you have a app open like the 720p MKV file I was watching on it earlier, but the UI is sluggish compared to HTC aria.
I came here just looking for tips to improve performance I could care less about "forum glory".

It actually isnt what at&t may have done to the firmware, the galaxy i tried wasnt locked to a carrier, and it was slow, especially when the ocean live wallpaper was active...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Well, since AT&T just officially announced availability in 10days, I guess I'm going to have to reverse my stance.
I still can't comprehend how the UI is slow compared to the Aria, though.
**Edit - Samsung confirmed the date/pricing as well. 10days to go, boyos!

UI
It does seem faster now that I have replaced the stock home screen with LauncherPro Beta. Maybe its just the touchwize homescreen that is slow? Again app performance is fine it was just the homescreen UI.

YES NEXUS S = Nexus + Galaxy S + Stock Gingerbread= WIN

It's true the successor to the Galaxy S line is the NEXUS S
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/google-nexus-s-is-the-samsung-gt-i9020/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/this-is-the-nexus-s/

Samsung just got through announcing that they are not building a nexus device..but it was just another galaxy s device
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Augh. And I just bought a new phone WTB vanilla, and that's what this is! CRAP!

please please pleeeaassee announce a version with ATT 3g bands (or have them built in like the Vibrant does). Bye bye captivate!

insaneturbo13 said:
Samsung just got through announcing that they are not building a nexus device..but it was just another galaxy s device
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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It went through the fcc, has the name NEXUS S (Nexus + Galaxy S) google on the back and 2.3 (Gingerbread) vanilla in the U.I. picture.
It's UNDENIABLE this is the NEXT Galaxy S/Nexus
Woot porting android 2.3 to our devices + first to get updates as nexus phone

This news / confirmation of rumors is the best news for all SGS phones since the SGS line was released! This all but guarantee's we will get Honeycomb when it comes out and it should be ported quickly!

Bowsa2511 said:
It went through the fcc, has the name NEXUS S (Nexus + Galaxy S) google on the back and 2.3 (Gingerbread) vanilla in the U.I. picture.
It's UNDENIABLE this is the NEXT Galaxy S/Nexus
Woot porting android 2.3 to our devices + first to get updates as nexus phone
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Sorry I didn't mean to make our out like I'm doubting it...what I meant was that I don't like how samsung says rumors are 100% not true then confirms then a week and s half later
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Why can't these other Galaxy S phones have a nice back cover like the Captivate? The Cappy is still the nicest looking of all Galaxy phones.
insaneturbo13 said:
Sorry I didn't mean to make our out like I'm doubting it...what I meant was that I don't like how samsung says rumors are 100% not true then confirms then a week and s half later
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I totally agree with you. It looks pretty fugly compared to the cap. I was actually thinking that it could have been pretty sexy if they had taken the Omnia 7 style chasis and android-fied it and thrown in some more metal instead of cheap feeling plastic.

buddy17 said:
please please pleeeaassee announce a version with ATT 3g bands (or have them built in like the Vibrant does). Bye bye captivate!
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I second that!!!!!

This will be awesome as long as Samsung doesn't do the same douchebaggery they've made themselves known for as far as updates and support. Once this drops I'll probably buy this and ditch my Cappy.
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I wonder if they're delaying it because of the GPS...

I hope it's the same hardware and we'll see a port, I'm not about to but another super phone, although the ffc and presumably hsupa and possibly hspa+ do make it tempting even if it's the same hardware.
If it's new hardware, I'll be mad I bought the captivate.
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cant wait for gingerbread on our phones lol

Dani897 said:
I hope it's the same hardware and we'll see a port, I'm not about to but another super phone, although the ffc and presumably hsupa and possibly hspa+ do make it tempting even if it's the same hardware.
If it's new hardware, I'll be mad I bought the captivate.
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The hardware should be relatively similar, probably most similar to the Epic 4g. I base this on the fact that it was originally supposed to be out Nov 14 (I forgot where I read this, androidandme.com maybe?), and that the model number is I9020. I highly doubt they put some next-gen hardware in it that would make it impossible to port the OS to our captivates.

I hope it comes with worth while hardware improvements if its only standard Galaxy S then there is no point upgrading if you already have Galaxy S variant..

how does this mean we are going to be the first ones to get gingerbread / comb? (not trying to be a ****, can't convey tone in type, this is a genuine question) I understand a port might be SLIGHTLY easier, but what if it has a lot of different hardware? (as someone who is not really familiar with phone development, I am genuinely curious) and I really don't think that the release of this will mean that samsung will continue to support its other phones (c'mon people, its sammy). I think Ill certainly buy one, WOOT for updates from google!

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how does this mean we are going to be the first ones to get gingerbread / comb? (not trying to be a ****, can't convey tone in type, this is a genuine question) I understand a port might be SLIGHTLY easier, but what if it has a lot of different hardware? (as someone who is not really familiar with phone development, I am genuinely curious) and I really don't think that the release of this will mean that samsung will continue to support its other phones (c'mon people, its sammy). I think Ill certainly buy one, WOOT for updates from google!
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It ties in with it being easier to port to our phones, and I highly doubt it'll carry the new 1.2ghz processor.. considering that's slated for the new flagship samsung
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/exclusive-samsung-flagship-phone-with-gingerbread-and-huge-di/

come to think of it, this is samsung's dream phone, they get to utilize all their sexified hardware, and not have to give a crap about software updates since that would (presumably) be handled by google. I think it was meant to be <3 and also WHY THE HELL DOES T-MOBILE GET ALL OF THE DAMN GOOGLE EXPERIENCE PHONES!? (best buy's leaked info suggests it will be through t-mobile, heres to hoping that it carries the at&t bands like the vibrant does)

life2monkeys said:
how does this mean we are going to be the first ones to get gingerbread / comb? (not trying to be a ****, can't convey tone in type, this is a genuine question) I understand a port might be SLIGHTLY easier, but what if it has a lot of different hardware? (as someone who is not really familiar with phone development, I am genuinely curious) and I really don't think that the release of this will mean that samsung will continue to support its other phones (c'mon people, its sammy). I think Ill certainly buy one, WOOT for updates from google!
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Well, the assumption was that it wouldn't have a lot of hardware differences (same cpu, gpu, modem, etc.), meaning that porting the rom over to work on the captivate would be a lot easier than something with next-gen hardware, which would necessitate writing custom drivers and whatnot.
Looks like my assumption is turning out to be false though. Sorry to wreck everyone's Friday afternoon with this, but check this article out:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/new...ped-new-dual-core-version-already-in-testing/

Viewsonic, Hello?

So does anyone have any idea what Viewsonic is doing? Currently we have 3588 as the latest, with a temporary release of 4349. Are they working on another release? Could it be GB or HC? I like the custom roms we get, but really the the feel of a well working stock. The new HC ROM is really cool, but no Netflix from what i have read.

well...from what I've read, the netflix issue is exactly that, a netflix issue. They've released versions for specific devices. some XDA devs have found workarounds, fixes, or builds that will enable it to work on certain roms. There's nothing that VS can do about getting Netflix to work on the G-Tablet.
As for VS updates and involvement...who knows? they've been quite vacant for quite some time. A grassroots effort pressured them to release 4349, then they pulled it, but the pressure was not kept up. Maybe they are working on something...but it would be nice if they told us what it was, huh?

I wouldn't get my hopes up for a HC release. GB might be a possibility, but my guess is they're just working out the bugs in 4349 and will hopefully release that soon and then they'll be done with it. The tablet didn't sell well, I can't see them pouring any more resources into it.

The tablet didn't sell well
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It didn't? Wasn't it the top seller on Amazon.com for a bit? I don't remember the Adam being able to brag about that...and they are rumored to be working on an official GB release, using essentially the SAME hardware that we use.
I've often said that it's sites like XDA that have made the manufacturers more lax in their support. Viewsonic never claimed that their out of the box firmware was spectacular. Devs here started messing with it and came up with usable Roms. VS was beaten by "amateurs." Now, our devs have figured out how to directly port Adam Roms to the G-Tablet. VS just needed to release a 1.2 bootloader so that it was possible for the devs to port them. They did this, then pulled it 24 hours later, AFTER the devs had it to work with. If Adam developers actually do release an official GB Rom (WITH video drivers from NVidea) then they, combined with the amateur G-Tab developers have done Viewsonics work FOR them...had nobody messed with the stock firmware, then VS would be under WAY more pressure to fix what is broken. as it is, amateurs are doing the work, for free...
SO....exactly why would VS spend time (more importantly MONEY) wokring on a project that has been taken over by amateur developers?

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It didn't? Wasn't it the top seller on Amazon.com for a bit?
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I'm not sure, but I don't doubt it. I also don't doubt that most of those sales were when the device was on clearance. That's what companies do when a product has failed.
Viewsonic, as far as I know, has never promised a GB or HC upgrade. I wasn't expecting one when I bought the tablet on Woot and nobody else should have either. I'll be happy if it happens, but I'm not expecting anything.

It may have been a crumb, but the 1.2 bl leak enabled our current version of HC... its only the lack of a .36 dev (from my understanding) that hinders further progress.
BTW, I got mine when it was still $408 shipped from Sears! YIKES!

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So does anyone have any idea what Viewsonic is doing?
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They're moving on with their next product(s), and have put this tablet out of their minds. It got some buzz when firesaled under $300 and with some xda love, but clearly it's not a tablet that competes in any way with current tablets (other than having a tegra2 cpu.)
Hope for something good from the devs working off Adam or other "sister" tablets, because you're unlikely to see anything from VS.

NVidia has committed to yearly upgrades of the Tegra line. I don't recall when the Tegra2 was first released, but it has to be close to a year ago.
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I am sure that they are now working feverishly on the Kal-El chip. If nVidia puts minimal support towards the Tegra2, ViewSonic is at their mercy.

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It didn't? Wasn't it the top seller on Amazon.com for a bit? I don't remember the Adam being able to brag about that...and they are rumored to be working on an official GB release, using essentially the SAME hardware that we use.
I've often said that it's sites like XDA that have made the manufacturers more lax in their support. Viewsonic never claimed that their out of the box firmware was spectacular. Devs here started messing with it and came up with usable Roms. VS was beaten by "amateurs." Now, our devs have figured out how to directly port Adam Roms to the G-Tablet. VS just needed to release a 1.2 bootloader so that it was possible for the devs to port them. They did this, then pulled it 24 hours later, AFTER the devs had it to work with. If Adam developers actually do release an official GB Rom (WITH video drivers from NVidea) then they, combined with the amateur G-Tab developers have done Viewsonics work FOR them...had nobody messed with the stock firmware, then VS would be under WAY more pressure to fix what is broken. as it is, amateurs are doing the work, for free...
SO....exactly why would VS spend time (more importantly MONEY) wokring on a project that has been taken over by amateur developers?
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I agree that they profit quite a bit from site like XDA,
in regard of the 1.2 bootloader we had it since February actually when Robeet found the leaked update but developper didn't know then that it was compatible with other brand of rom, they actually taught it was locked... but this doesn't change the fact that VS is doing nothing...

Samsung; What You've Done With ICS

I love Android Ice Cream Sandwich. I love the fluid user interface, the futuristic Holo theme, the aptly named Roboto font and its swipe-able UI elements among many other qualities. Hell, I love it so much that I’ve even started eating more Ice Cream Sandwiches ever since it was announced. ( just joking )
ICS is a completely new direction for Android, it is its first version that has a coherent design vision behind it, and its Director of User Experience, Matias Duarte has outdone himself. The care and love he has put in while designing it was pretty self-evident, that is, until OEM’s got their slimy hands upon its shiny, beautiful interface. ( yeah, Samsung, i am talking to you )
The crux of the matter is that Samsung just started rolling out its ICS update for its most popular smartphone to date, the Galaxy SII. And it is horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with it, except the fact that it looks EXACTLY the same as Gingerbread. Samsung have taken a revolutionary update to the Android operating system and turned it into an iterative one, which is behaviour that I cannot, in good conscience, condone. I am surprised that Google is not yet up in arms against such a base defilement of its beautiful child.
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Home Screen of SII on Gingerbread - (Courtesy-GSMArena.com)
Home Screen of SII on ICS - (Courtesy-GSMArena.com)
Samsung’s logic states that it does not want to change an interface that millions of its users have now gotten used to, which, superficially, seems pretty sound. But, the problem is that people were expecting ICS to be an absolutely revolutionary change and as Nokia and Symbian have already shown us, companies should not keep sticking to a familiar UI and ebb the tide of progress while the world around them keeps evolving. It is a cut-throat world right now, you either innovate and move forward or stagnate and die.
Which brings us to future innovation from Samsung. The company is about to introduce its latest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy SIII. The question then arises as to what Samsung shall make of the software atop such a seminal device; will they again cater to legacy users and use the same version of TouchWiz as on the SGS2, or will they completely re-vamp the UI to accompany the new device? As the situation stands, both of the options present potential pitfalls. If they stick to SGS2’s UI, the tech industry at large would be completely disappointed, as Samsung would be the only company to blatantly ignore ICS to such an extent. On the other hand, if they do introduce a new UI, they would be fragmenting their own Android smartphone portfolio.
Samsung has already garnered a reputation for being very flaky with regard to their updates. They decided not to update the Galaxy S to ICS at all and all this further confusion might be a potential nail in Samsung’s coffin for the year 2012. That is just how fast a single bad decision travels among the tech fraternity in these times.
I don’t want to sound like an Apple fanboy, but this is one place where Samsung and the whole Android OEM conglomerate sorely need to learn the ropes from Apple. They update their phones regularly and consistently. You can still pick up the iPhone 3GS, launched 3 years ago and it would still have more or less the same experience as a newly minted iPhone 4S, while in Samsung’s case, every subsequent generation of their flagship ‘S’ line has a monumentally different experience. Come on Sammy, wise up!
The good ole' Galaxy S, is not getting an 'OFFICIAL' ICS upgrade, why? Because according to them, the RAM in phone is not enough to run the touchwiz and the other carrier added crapware, even when the Google Nexus S ca be updated to the latest ICS offering, which essentially have the same hardware.
If you take a look at the homescreen of the S II, one which is still on Gingerbread and the other one which is updated to ICS, you can barely notice any difference between them.
So, in the end, i just want to state that if samsung's gonna include touchwiz n it's next flagship, at least please update the touchwiz so that we can tell any difference between Gingerbread & ICS.
P.S. I want to add a link for a youtube video which shows two S II, kept side-by side, one Gingerbread & one ICS, but the forum rules doesn't allow me to post the link.

I agree, but the reason I don't like TW is not because of fragmentation, but because It's just so extremely ugly. I know this is a personal opinion, but I know many people agree with me and I can't see how Samsung can possibly have missed this and continues to use it.
Also the fact that it is so similar to gb TW is stupid. HTC understood that they had to renew themselves and created a, in my opinion, amazing skin
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yeah! this video, which i want to post, but the forum rules doesn't allow me to do so until i reach the 8 posts.
Anyways, thanks

Habarug said:
I agree, but the reason I don't like TW is not because of fragmentation, but because It's just so extremely ugly. I know this is a personal opinion, but I know many people agree with me and I can't see how Samsung can possibly have missed this and continues to use it.
Also the fact that it is so similar to gb TW is stupid. HTC understood that they had to renew themselves and created a, in my opinion, amazing skin
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yeah, they've completely bungled up the ICS update for S II, only because of the ugly touchwiz. i mean just watch the video once, one can hardly tell the difference between gingerbread & ice cream sandwich, if they want to upgrade the software just to make them look-alike then i guess that their next flagship will be just like their previous, at least when it comes to os

The two biggest cons for me are that Samsung updates horribly slow because of it and that it's plain ugly.
Gingerbread, TouchWiz and Sense are closer to the style of iOS, while Ice Cream Sandwich is closer to the modern Windows Phone 7 style.
I like that much more. The only thing that I find better in WP7 than in iOS and Android is the design of the User Interface.

to be honest I am using a port of the HTC One with Sense 4.0 and Htc did nearly the same thing. If you didnt tell me it was ICS I would think it was gingerbread with a new sense clock widget. I am not sure why the OEMs continue to do this. Maybe samsungs or htcs decisions suite some, but when the first thing I need to do with the HTC port is start yanking apks and adding different launchers to convince myself I am running ICS there is an issue

incredible step backwards. total gingerbread sh!t.
ruins the whole essence of ICS if you ask me.
damn you and your Galaxy Value Pack upgrades too!
I dont want to unlock my phone with my face OK?

Guys you have to understand. We are the 1% of their users. And even some of us prefer ugly UI (MIUI). The OEM will always do this. The UI is their branding on a phone. Most normal users like the way it looks. Personally I have not seem a good looking UI from anyone. All 2 tone colors and flat images. Thank god for custom themes. Lol
If you want regular updates then get a Nexus. When it comes to anything other then the nexus, the carriers have all the control over the updates. (At least in the states)

Some people don't know that you can disable defaults on twlauncher and go to stock launcher instead.

I've made simular comments in the past few months after the first leaked images of the Samsung ICS update.
I argued that what we are seeing is a midcycle update and not the rule of thumb for future devices.
Don't get me wrong, this by no means advocates samsungs decision to strip ICS of its looks and feature set. I'm merely able to understand that many millions of people have bought this phone (millions of very ordinary people) and this isn't like an upgrade from froyo to gingerbread where the notification bar gets changed to black. ICS is a different animal all together.
My mother chose her green screen nokia 3210 over a cybershot Sony Ericsson simply because she wasn't keen on the icon style UI. She has never strayed from nokia since even though they now have icons.
Its a fear of losing customers which has lead to such a timid update and samsung as a brand doesn't have the same innovative swagger as HTC let's say. Where as HTC customers are almost expecting HTC to make everything more glossy and spin around like a disco dancer every two weeks in an update.
My GSII is still amazing with gingerbread. I've changed the launcher which I would have done and will do no matter what they did with ICS. Orange UK will release the ICS update in the coming weeks and my expectations are safely low.
I don't believe this will be the case for the GSIII by the way. Plus I also here that samsung may be the first to offer a choice of the new TW ICS (that's not so locked to the gingerbread experience) and Vanilla ICS.
My fingers are crossed and anyway my next upgrade cycle isn't until next year when jellybean will be out and the GSIV or "the New GS" will be in full swing.
Booooom!
** Most truths were once deemed blasphemy **
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ICS status bar battery is green! need I say more?
maybe they honestly tried, but with that touchwiz camoflauge, I have to do a double/triple take to see ICS.
SGS2:

Lol see the problem is, samsung believes in only changing the interface and adding true new features in their next flagship phone, unlike iOS where the new interface changes show up on older models. Samsung i hate you, and not by opinion but because i have the tab 8.9 and captivate and you havent done anything to fix their various bugs etc, so i have to rely on custom romsol

It's embarrassingly bad.
Sent from my SGS II

I guess the rational is that too radical a change would upset the uninformed users
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ICS not support ad-hoc!!!
using ICS only 1 hour and i flash it back to gingerbread 2.3.6, at least my gb 2.3.6 can connect to ad-hoc network and ics CAN NOT!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24766415

yeah, samsung are just careless when coming to device maintaining, but i don't care as long as there are devs that make ports and roms that i love, and samsung releases sources !!!

I agree, I have not had a stock firmware on any of my android devices for longer than a day or so in years. I guess that is actually a pretty hurtful statement to the OEMs software though

shadowskorch said:
Some people don't know that you can disable defaults on twlauncher and go to stock launcher instead.
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Hi, what are the steps to do so?
Thanks

announcement regarding ICS coming in July

Announcement:
With the recent announcement that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus series will be getting ICS next month (in July), and the implied failure of Samsung to deliver ICS in June after previously announcing it, Samsung has managed to take over the Second Greatest Lie in the World, displacing "I won't cum in your mouth." If Samsung succeeds in this same pattern for the next 8 months, it will have a shot at taking over the top spot, still held by "The check is in the mail." The current top three Greatest Lies in the World, in rank order, are:
#1: The check is in the mail.
#2: You'll get ICS next month.
#3: I won't cum in your mouth.
Company representatives declined to be interviewed officially for this story, stating that they'll make an official press release in the beginning of next month. However, they have allowed information to leak anonymously that Samsung believes they have held the #2 spot all along, as "I won't cum in your mouth" only applies to Apple products sold in the USA.
In addition, Samsung lawyers have filed in injunction in Canadian courts attempting to displace "The check is in the mail." According to the documents filed, Samsung believes that this statement must be broken into two seperate statements, one for paper mail and another for electronic mail. Doing so would allow Samsung's ICS promise to overtake the number one spot.
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LOL. Hope Samsung is reading this thread.

ahhahaha EPIC

Must be getting old :fingers-crossed:. i thought the number one lie was "The Dog Ate It!" :cyclops:

Damn gary, I thought you did known better.
Ics update to us is "eligible" for one of the greatest lies. There is no real position for it yet.
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Did they happen to mention July of what year?

GTOJim said:
Did they happen to mention July of what year?
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Hmm, I think you probably meant to say "of what decade".

Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?

Why did you wrote this post. Do you think we would agree with you even remotely. I think you'd better farted.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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A) Better battery life, better memory management, the ability to clear the Recent Apps list, the ability to use Chrome, the ability to save videos offline in the YouTube app, fixed Wifi Sleep of Death issues, upgraded standard browser... The list goes on.
B) If the Nexus 7 shows up in store soon, I may well do so.
Most of those people would jump ship if there was a reasonable alternative available. Enter the Nexus 7 and maybe Asus's original tablet.

I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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leodfs said:
I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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I'm pissed with HC because it's still bugged - it's not GPU accelerated and gets sluggish at times, and many various bugs aren't patched - those fixes come in ICS (as listed above). More importantly Google appears to have completely abandoned HC support in favour of the unified ICS OS, which incorporates fixes and improvements to performance, battery life, various kernel bugs which caused the Sleep of Death problems, and more software is getting out there which either needs ICS for full functionality (or to run at all).
And the worst part? Samsung's been making empty promises for months, while pushing out tablets which are very similar to the 7+ in hardware with ICS already in place. All the while talking about how the original devices are eligible for upgrades... but then mysteriously letting the deadlines get extended. Even for Nexus devices, some of which are still waiting for current versions of ICS - yet they're able to ship out new Galaxy S III's with the most current Honeycomb version in markets where Galaxy Nexus phones are still waiting for 4.0.2 or 4.0.4 (which is on the Galaxy S III). It's obviously not a problem with being unable to recompile the radios or whatever's delaying those devices - it seems more that they're unwilling to deliver updates to keep your phone secure and current in features, and would much rather you buy a new device. Even if you're on the 'pure Android' Nexus, much less one of the Galaxy Tabs like what most of the people here have.
I'm just very, very glad that Asus got the Nexus 7 tablet - at least they deliver updates, even if some of the updates need fixing on occasion.

The only reason a Galaxy Nexus would be waiting on an updated is because of the carrier that it is on. Different carrier set-ups require different software tweaks. That's why only unlocked GSM devices are "true" Nexus devices.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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I agree with you about the Samsung not updating thing because it isn't exactly new, so we really have no real grounds to complain about common knowledge.

nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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Well u must put in consideration that not all of us use our tabs the same am I right? I agree that its not really that big of a deal. But I can see how it can for some people. Me and my friend bought the same tab but he uses it for almost everything. From entertainment(movies, gaming YouTube...) to school work. And I have seen his device its not as fast as mine. And if ics seems more promising then maybe its worth a shot. Its free right? You've got nothing to loose really? But personally I've tried ics on my sisters Sony tab and I must say that honestly there is a substantial difference in performance. As for heavy users I mean. But hey its just an update its a win win situation for everyone right?

Oh man, that was funny. Although, I was always under the impression that the number one lie in the world was, "I love you too."

The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf

SWFlyerUK said:
The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf
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Hopefully it will be out real soon...

Well, in my experiance of manuals being put on the website - the firmware has been released the following week. Has happened with Archos a few times.