It looks like Samsung has been forced to admit they are the ones working on the nexus prime, is anyone else as disappointed as I am about that?
Samsung accidentally confirms the Nexus Prime?
"To <recipient>
It has come to our attention that you are wrongfully in possession of, and intend to release or otherwise publicly disclose without Samsung’s consent, firmware for the Nexus Prime. By this letter, Samsung orders you to immediate cease, desist, and refrain from any and all such activities.
The Nexus Prime firmware is the exclusive property of Samsung and/or its partners, suppliers and affiliates. Any continued retention, use, or disclosure of Nexus Prime firmware, and/or Samsung’s confidential, proprietary, and trade secret information pertaining to Nexus Prime, will expose you to significant liability, both civil and potentially criminal.
Samsung expects your immediate compliance with the terms of this letter. You are instructed to contact my office immediately to discuss the return of Nexus Prime data in your possession and other remedial action. Samsung reserves all rights.
By this letter, you are also put on notice of your obligation not to alter, modify, delete, erase, or destroy, or cause or permit anyone else to alter, modify, delete, erase, or destroy, any evidence pertaining to the subject matter of this letter.
Thank you for immediate cooperation.
<Email sender>
General Counsel
Samsung Telecommunications America, LLC."
Eh...typical S. Korean mentality. They think they can intimidate people into doing what they want.
MartyLK said:
Eh...typical S. Korean mentality. They think they can intimidate people into doing what they want.
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What does this have anything to do with south korean mentality? Someone has in their possession something that belongs to samsung that wasn't released to public and they're demanding that person to return it. That's an issue?
Is this any different than what jason chan from gizmodo went through with iphone4 leakage to a lesser extreme?
You've been ranting about samsung in every other post. If you don't like the company, just don't buy their product
I am very disappointed
i was hoping that htc will be the next one again
they did great job with nexus one
Someone on another site that reported on this stated that the letter didn't seem to be well enough written to be from a Samsung lawyer and the more I read it the more I start to agree. "By this letter?" Even I could find a dozen ways to say that in a more grammatically correct way...
LosT SpiriT said:
I am very disappointed
i was hoping that htc will be the next one again
they did great job with nexus one
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That's kind of what I'm thinking. I've never owned an android phone from Samsung so I don't have any first hand experience with them, but after hearing complaints about their lack of support and their under performing radios for Sprint I'm weary of them.
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Someone on another site that reported on this stated that the letter didn't seem to be well enough written to be from a Samsung lawyer and the more I read it the more I start to agree. "By this letter?" Even I could find a dozen ways to say that in a more grammatically correct way...
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I saw that too after reading some of the comments from people about it, they also fail to give a source for where they found it at. Although, by the looks of how Nexus Prime is highlighted it may have accidentally been indexed by Google. As Yale just found a few days ago Google is very good at finding stuff it's not supposed to and exposing it for the whole world to see.
LosT SpiriT said:
I am very disappointed
i was hoping that htc will be the next one again
they did great job with nexus one
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yes，agree with you.also like htc
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That's kind of what I'm thinking. I've never owned an android phone from Samsung so I don't have any first hand experience with them, but after hearing complaints about their lack of support and their under performing radios for Sprint I'm weary of them.
I saw that too after reading some of the comments from people about it, they also fail to give a source for where they found it at. Although, by the looks of how Nexus Prime is highlighted it may have accidentally been indexed by Google. As Yale just found a few days ago Google is very good at finding stuff it's not supposed to and exposing it for the whole world to see.
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Lack of updates only applies to the US carrier devices as the international version of galaxy s was updated to gingerbread before pretty much anyone else. Also this is a nexus device we're discussing here. No matter who the manufacturer is, update will be released on these devices first
the nexus s, was....meh, samsung pretty much was known to be making it ever since they announced the prime. that pic that was leaked a few months ago (the one with the phone sitting on the fur rug) i could have told you right away that was a sammy.
i'm not a big fan of the sammy's. mainly because without a rubber case or bumper, their phones are VERY VERY VERY VERY easy to drop.
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the nexus s, was....meh, samsung pretty much was known to be making it ever since they announced the prime. that pic that was leaked a few months ago (the one with the phone sitting on the fur rug) i could have told you right away that was a sammy.
i'm not a big fan of the sammy's. mainly because without a rubber case or bumper, their phones are VERY VERY VERY VERY easy to drop.
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I've just come to the conclusion that a massive water proof case in an added cost to any smartphone these days...
This is going to Verizon only?
luckymeeh said:
This is going to Verizon only?
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Well Verizon says they aren't getting the SGS2 because thy are already getting another Samsung device and Tmoble, Sprint and ATT are all getting the SGS2 refresh so it would appear to me that Verizon wont be the only carrier to get the Nexus Prime but it seems that Verizon may be the sole carrier for a limited time.
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Well Verizon says they aren't getting the SGS2 because thy are already getting another Samsung device and Tmoble, Sprint and ATT are all getting the SGS2 refresh so it would appear to me that Verizon wont be the only carrier to get the Nexus Prime but it seems that Verizon may be the sole carrier for a limited time.
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No Nexus device became available in CDMA only model when it launched. Either they are getting a world phone or they are getting it later ala Nexus S 4G
No way Google decides something like this. Bet my head on this
narta said:
No Nexus device became available in CDMA only model when it launched. Either they are getting a world phone or they are getting it later ala Nexus S 4G
No way Google decides something like this. Bet my head on this
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I hope you're right it would just seem odd to release the SGS2 then release the Nexus prime a couple weeks later...
When google first released the nexus s it wasnt directly thru tmobile. You had to go to best buy. I wonder if the nexus prime will be one phone for all carriers, one phone that is open with gsm/ cdma capability and all bands for world use.
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I hope that the email is fake lol Samsung's screens are aweful imo they have yellow tints to the whites and their phones always feel cheap. id like it to be made by HTC. Idk how the bid goes on to make the nexus line if its based off of $ it will be hard for another company to get the contract seeing how Samsung has deep pockets...
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I hope that the email is fake lol Samsung's screens are aweful imo they have yellow tints to the whites and their phones always feel cheap. id like it to be made by HTC. Idk how the bid goes on to make the nexus line if its based off of $ it will be hard for another company to get the contract seeing how Samsung has deep pockets...
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Samsung's screen is so awful that this late in the game, LG jumped into the amoled race :rollseye:
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Samsung's screen is so awful that this late in the game, LG jumped into the amoled race :rollseye:
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Just hate how the whites went white man the darker colors are nice but the fact that they can't get white whites annoy me also they need to make it qhd
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I have the nexus s and I got to say. It is a lovely phone. I am not happy or disappointed that they are making the next nexus. Personally I thought it would of been Motorola as Google have bought them out now. Or maybe LG was the other speculation. I hope this phone dont have the efs folder like the galaxy s and the nexus s has as that has caused a lot problem with people losing there imei number when flashing roms.
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Just hate how the whites went white man the darker colors are nice but the fact that they can't get white whites annoy me also they need to make it qhd
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Darker colors aren't the only ones to be excited about. Unlike most typical LCD panels which can't support the whole color gamut, amoled panels typically exceed the color gamut support along with other benefits such as overall thinner panel package and power efficiency difference from lack of backlight usage
oh yeah yellow tint is really bad on these phones right? In real life, my laptop screen looks more yellowish than my phone
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/google-nexus-s-is-the-samsung-gt-i9020/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/this-is-the-nexus-s/
Samsung just got through announcing that they are not building a nexus device..but it was just another galaxy s device
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Augh. And I just bought a new phone WTB vanilla, and that's what this is! CRAP!
please please pleeeaassee announce a version with ATT 3g bands (or have them built in like the Vibrant does). Bye bye captivate!
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Samsung just got through announcing that they are not building a nexus device..but it was just another galaxy s device
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It went through the fcc, has the name NEXUS S (Nexus + Galaxy S) google on the back and 2.3 (Gingerbread) vanilla in the U.I. picture.
It's UNDENIABLE this is the NEXT Galaxy S/Nexus
Woot porting android 2.3 to our devices + first to get updates as nexus phone
This news / confirmation of rumors is the best news for all SGS phones since the SGS line was released! This all but guarantee's we will get Honeycomb when it comes out and it should be ported quickly!
Bowsa2511 said:
It went through the fcc, has the name NEXUS S (Nexus + Galaxy S) google on the back and 2.3 (Gingerbread) vanilla in the U.I. picture.
It's UNDENIABLE this is the NEXT Galaxy S/Nexus
Woot porting android 2.3 to our devices + first to get updates as nexus phone
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Sorry I didn't mean to make our out like I'm doubting it...what I meant was that I don't like how samsung says rumors are 100% not true then confirms then a week and s half later
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Why can't these other Galaxy S phones have a nice back cover like the Captivate? The Cappy is still the nicest looking of all Galaxy phones.
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Sorry I didn't mean to make our out like I'm doubting it...what I meant was that I don't like how samsung says rumors are 100% not true then confirms then a week and s half later
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I totally agree with you. It looks pretty fugly compared to the cap. I was actually thinking that it could have been pretty sexy if they had taken the Omnia 7 style chasis and android-fied it and thrown in some more metal instead of cheap feeling plastic.
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please please pleeeaassee announce a version with ATT 3g bands (or have them built in like the Vibrant does). Bye bye captivate!
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I second that!!!!!
This will be awesome as long as Samsung doesn't do the same douchebaggery they've made themselves known for as far as updates and support. Once this drops I'll probably buy this and ditch my Cappy.
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I wonder if they're delaying it because of the GPS...
I hope it's the same hardware and we'll see a port, I'm not about to but another super phone, although the ffc and presumably hsupa and possibly hspa+ do make it tempting even if it's the same hardware.
If it's new hardware, I'll be mad I bought the captivate.
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cant wait for gingerbread on our phones lol
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I hope it's the same hardware and we'll see a port, I'm not about to but another super phone, although the ffc and presumably hsupa and possibly hspa+ do make it tempting even if it's the same hardware.
If it's new hardware, I'll be mad I bought the captivate.
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The hardware should be relatively similar, probably most similar to the Epic 4g. I base this on the fact that it was originally supposed to be out Nov 14 (I forgot where I read this, androidandme.com maybe?), and that the model number is I9020. I highly doubt they put some next-gen hardware in it that would make it impossible to port the OS to our captivates.
I hope it comes with worth while hardware improvements if its only standard Galaxy S then there is no point upgrading if you already have Galaxy S variant..
how does this mean we are going to be the first ones to get gingerbread / comb? (not trying to be a ****, can't convey tone in type, this is a genuine question) I understand a port might be SLIGHTLY easier, but what if it has a lot of different hardware? (as someone who is not really familiar with phone development, I am genuinely curious) and I really don't think that the release of this will mean that samsung will continue to support its other phones (c'mon people, its sammy). I think Ill certainly buy one, WOOT for updates from google!
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how does this mean we are going to be the first ones to get gingerbread / comb? (not trying to be a ****, can't convey tone in type, this is a genuine question) I understand a port might be SLIGHTLY easier, but what if it has a lot of different hardware? (as someone who is not really familiar with phone development, I am genuinely curious) and I really don't think that the release of this will mean that samsung will continue to support its other phones (c'mon people, its sammy). I think Ill certainly buy one, WOOT for updates from google!
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It ties in with it being easier to port to our phones, and I highly doubt it'll carry the new 1.2ghz processor.. considering that's slated for the new flagship samsung
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/exclusive-samsung-flagship-phone-with-gingerbread-and-huge-di/
come to think of it, this is samsung's dream phone, they get to utilize all their sexified hardware, and not have to give a crap about software updates since that would (presumably) be handled by google. I think it was meant to be <3 and also WHY THE HELL DOES T-MOBILE GET ALL OF THE DAMN GOOGLE EXPERIENCE PHONES!? (best buy's leaked info suggests it will be through t-mobile, heres to hoping that it carries the at&t bands like the vibrant does)
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how does this mean we are going to be the first ones to get gingerbread / comb? (not trying to be a ****, can't convey tone in type, this is a genuine question) I understand a port might be SLIGHTLY easier, but what if it has a lot of different hardware? (as someone who is not really familiar with phone development, I am genuinely curious) and I really don't think that the release of this will mean that samsung will continue to support its other phones (c'mon people, its sammy). I think Ill certainly buy one, WOOT for updates from google!
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Well, the assumption was that it wouldn't have a lot of hardware differences (same cpu, gpu, modem, etc.), meaning that porting the rom over to work on the captivate would be a lot easier than something with next-gen hardware, which would necessitate writing custom drivers and whatnot.
Looks like my assumption is turning out to be false though. Sorry to wreck everyone's Friday afternoon with this, but check this article out:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/new...ped-new-dual-core-version-already-in-testing/
I never owned one, and even now I'm a big supporter of Samsung and their products. I owned their mp3 (YP-P2) and it's simply amazing. I own two of their LCD monitors as well and also a laser printer, and they are all working perfectly.
So why so much hate on the Samsung?
I remember reading this one post of this guy saying never again will he own another Samsung phone from his experience with one of their phones... the Galaxy probably?
because their phones suck
I had a Galaxy S and after being with HTC for my previous Android phones it was like going from a BMW to a Hyundai. Felt like Fisher Price made it.
until you own a Samsung PHONE, you shouldn't even bother posting this...
anyways here's why i hate them
awful gps... my ex galaxy s, now my sisters phone never gor the gps working
feels plastic... it feels like the phone should be half the price, awfully constructed.
i am the only one that thinks that the screen other than having awesome colors and be more vivid... is just not THAT awesome? ( talking galaxy s wise )
touch wiz... awful... just... awful...
convolution said:
I never owned one, and even now I'm a big supporter of Samsung and their products. I owned their mp3 (YP-P2) and it's simply amazing. I own two of their LCD monitors as well and also a laser printer, and they are all working perfectly.
So why so much hate on the Samsung?
I remember reading this one post of this guy saying never again will he own another Samsung phone from his experience with one of their phones... the Galaxy probably?
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data lockups
faulty software (search ANY galaxy s gps problems)
horrid support
there is many things missing from the epic's source for 2.1 that dont prevent but certainly slow aosp based roms
take your pick, im coming from the epic which i had been patiently waiting to get for 2-3 months before it came out
juanshop said:
until you own a Samsung PHONE, you shouldn't even bother posting this...
anyways here's why i hate them
awful gps... my ex galaxy s, now my sisters phone never gor the gps working
feels plastic... it feels like the phone should be half the price, awfully constructed.
i am the only one that thinks that the screen other than having awesome colors and be more vivid... is just not THAT awesome? ( talking galaxy s wise )
touch wiz... awful... just... awful...
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The hate is strong in this one.
Quite frankly, because their terrible phones. Plasticky, buggy, laggy, faulty hardware, faulty software and overpriced.
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But aside from that, what?
AbsolutZeroGI said:
Quite frankly, because their terrible phones. Plasticky, buggy, laggy, faulty hardware, faulty software and overpriced.
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I had a samsung clamshell dumbphone, and it was the most solid phone I've ever owned. Sure, the GUI was terrible.. but it worked great otherwise! lol.
I think the simple answer is because you are on the xda forums. Many members here (myself included) are very loyal to HTC manufactured phones. It is much like asking why there is so much hate for Dell on an Apple forum. The demographic makeup of the posters will trend towards users with some level of brand loyalty.
Additionally Samsung may or may not have inferior build quality in general, but it is a natural tendency for users to have more negative opinions of products they declined vs ones they chose. It is a subconscious way of enforcing contentment with their decisions.
I am not saying that there are no perfectly valid and real reasons to choose HTC over Samsung, or vice versa. What I am suggesting is that the trend towards negativity is impacted by the demographic of users on the forums.
After having the vibrant and the captivate they both just feel cheap to me and plastic like compared to sprint evo or google G2. I love the feel of a solid phone. Compare the original N1 to the NS by samsung just my to cents.
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They're cheap they feel and work cheap. The screens are bright but that's it the TWUI is awfull smh. You should read up on what happened with the Behold II. Its complete BS tbh. Plus they just said galaxy S phones may or may not see gingerbread... oxymoron since Nexus S is basicly Galaxy S
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Phones are the only thing sammy's not good at. I've always dreamed of having a tv or monitor made by em along with many others I imagine...
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I have a G2 and a Vibrant. I happy with both phones, but it took a long time to get the Vibrant to that level. The G2 out of the box was very good experience, but with CM6 I can't a reason to try anything else. Eventually the Vibrant will get there someday after Samsung and the carriers can get on the same sheet of music.
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I had a samsung clamshell dumbphone, and it was the most solid phone I've ever owned. Sure, the GUI was terrible.. but it worked great otherwise! lol.
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Android phones are what most are talking about.
I owned a vibrant and it sucked bad....no froyo...no working gps...thank god i was able to upgrade to the g2 free...i will never buy a samsung phone again
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Behold 2... worst... phone... ever...
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The hate is strong in this one.
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so you just make a worthless comment to someone that says you are wrong...
maybe get a samsung phone first... There are plenty of companys that do some things good...
try a samsung phone, ive hated the two i had for a short while.
The Vibrant was by far the most poorly made device I've ever owned. Cheap plastic, corners cut on design in places that made a huge difference (volume rocker was garbage). It was TOO light, due to the crap material used. Plus, the gps couldn't get a lock no matter how long I waited.
It nearly soured me on android, as it was my first device with this glorious OS. I got tmobile to swap my Vibrant for the G2 (after 40 days lol) and I couldn't be happier.
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I'm actually a fan of samsung phones. I don't know why but I've never had that much problems with it that couldn't be solved. Yes it does feel cheap, but I've never had an actual broken phone because of dropping or any other physical harm. This is coming from a previous spica user, an international version of galaxy s (not really mine but I've held it more than the actual owner did..), and now a tab (which does actually feel way better than the previous two).
My friends own htc phones, and while I do admit they feel more solid compared to sammys, I'm contented with my phones already.
The SGS series has too many problems going for it compared to the HTC series, especially on XDA where the HTC community is strong.
Nexus S is a different story though.
I'll admit every day I'm closer and closer to listing my G2x on ebay, in favor of the HTC Sensation but the locked bootloader had me very worried. Fast forward to Today, and HTC CEO officially confirmed that locked bootloaders will no longer be implemented in their devices. Sooooooo, as soon as the Sensation's released date is officially confirmed as June 8th my G2x is going bye-bye. Now the G2x is an amazing device, don't get me wrong but I had the Thunderbolt when I was with verizon, and grew quite fond of HTC sense UI. I probably won't be keeping the Sensation for long either, because as soon as Samsung Hercules comes out, it's going on ebay too, lol.http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
I'm tempted as well but not a big fan of sense UI I also want to see what issues this phone will have when it's released.
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I'm tempted as well but not a big fan of sense UI I also want to see what issues this phone will have when it's released.
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We are talking about unlocked bootloaders on a site that deals with multiple developers making all kinds of roms and you are worried about sense LOL
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Nope, who would want the Sensation when the GOD of all phones is being released 2 months later? In my opinion, the G2X is slightly better than the Sensation but the SGSII/Hercules is on it's own level.
What kind of screen is the sensation supposed to have? I hope not the same as the g2 as that phone was useless in the daylight.
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HTC has not stated when the new policy will take effect. I doubt the htc sensation or evo 3d will have unlocked bootloaders.
Though HTC might release the key to the public.
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We are talking about unlocked bootloaders on a site that deals with multiple developers making all kinds of roms and you are worried about sense LOL
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ya true but just sayin haha and because it has sense usually means slower updates (not like ours seem to be any faster)
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HTC has not stated when the new policy will take effect. I doubt the htc sensation or evo 3d will have unlocked bootloaders.
Though HTC might release the key to the public.
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That's what I was thinking, maybe they'll release it on their support site for currently locked devices.
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What kind of screen is the sensation supposed to have? I hope not the same as the g2 as that phone was useless in the daylight.
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S-LCD I believe.
I suppose it's possible that a decision made this week to nix the locked bootloaders could manifest itself on a very soon to be released device, but I'll be surprised if it is.
Future HTC phones may be more open, but it seems like wishful thinking to assume the Sensation's bootloader has been re-engineered in the last couple of weeks.
Also, I'm not so sure the Sensations hardware really measures up to what we have in our G2xs.
I'm as much of an HTC fan as anyone (see my XDA join date) I really really miss my dear departed N1, I can't bring myself to sell my MT3G, and I have two WinMo HTC phones gathering dust in a desk drawer. All that said it is nice to see someone else like LG stepping up with an enthusiasts quality device. If and when they do get the kinks ironed out this thing will be the best of the best, and wait till we see the second generation LG Android flagship.
Wow, elephants can dance...
“There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we’ve listened. Today, I’m confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience,”
Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
More toys for everyone to play with...
**** HTC. And **** Qualcomm. I will hold on to my nVidia phone until 3rd or 4th quarter of this year when the 5 times faster Tegra 3 comes out.
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**** HTC. And **** Qualcomm.
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Just curious, why? The locked bootloader was everyone's biggest gripe and now that's gone. They built the N1 and G2 which were great phones and got lots of developer support. Their internal memory's a little skimpy but that's already starting to change with the EVO 3D. I'm not a fan of any one phone manufacturer but some of my best phones were HTC's. Just wanted to know what made you feel so strongly.
Choice is good. Choice is very good.
HTC can't even have a phone with good battery life. The speakers suck and sound blown. They are producing phones at such a high rate corners have to be cut. By theory, HTC devices are nice but on the end users side they are really nothing to scream to Tue gods about. They seem to worry more about that damn sense crap than putting decent displays and speaker units into the phones and bump the battery to a better mah rating. I say ditch sense and use that money to use better higher quality and appealing parts.
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On a side note, the only reason why I would even consider the sensation is the screen size.
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On a side note, the only reason why I would even consider the sensation is the screen size.
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Yeah, I'll admit that's the major selling point for me.
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Just curious, why? The locked bootloader was everyone's biggest gripe and now that's gone. They built the N1 and G2 which were great phones and got lots of developer support. Their internal memory's a little skimpy but that's already starting to change with the EVO 3D. I'm not a fan of any one phone manufacturer but some of my best phones were HTC's. Just wanted to know what made you feel so strongly.
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I posted this in another thread but essentially Qualcomm tends to deliver chips that look great on paper but are **** in reality and HTC's build quality leaves something to be desired. Some of my best devices have indeed been HTC devices - however, I have never had a single HTC device last as long as my Captivate did and HTC cuts corners too much for my liking. The Evo is a perfect example. Two different types of display panels, one of them with a decidedly yellow tint; the artificial bottlecap on framerate that was imposed and the piss-poor decision to use very thin Gorilla Glass which made the device very prone to instant breakage if dropped. My Captivate? I threw it across the room in a rage and it didn't even dent it. I dropped it face-first on concrete I don't know how many times and only got scratches.
Don't even get me started on battery life, shoddy driver history, and the outright lies about storage space that HTC makes. I bought an Inspire expecting to get 4GB of internal NAND - only to find out that it does indeed have 4GB of NAND but user accessible NAND was only 2GB because they formatted it for speed instead of capacity. HTC is the only manufacturer that has done this as far as I've seen and it does not give me any faith in them. Too many lies, cut corners, and replaced devices for my taste. My MT4G out of the box was the worst phone I've ever had. Dead pixels, dead headphone jack, factory reset itself twice while it was running STOCK, my menu button had to be pressed extremely hard to get it to work, etc.
The Inspire had a worse battery than the Evo did but other than that seemed to be the highest quality HTC device I'd seen other than reception and the NAND misrepresentation. The screen sensitivity was almost too much and the "capacitive matrix" was much tighter than the one on my other LCD devices. Oh and the ear piece volume is always a nightmare with HTC devices.
I'll give you dev support but with nVidia, Marvell, and Freescale joining the mobile fight and Intel also promising to jump in as well, I see some big shifts in power coming to the mobile world. Software development behind the Tegra has really taken off and I don't think I've ever seen HTC release a device that didn't have a Qualcomm MSM after they dropped the Intel (now Marvell) PXA chip.
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On a side note, the only reason why I would even consider the sensation is the screen size.
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If thats the case just wait for the Hercules. Or is that to much phone for you?
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S-LCD I believe.
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actually its qHD the sensation will be pretty similar to the SGS2 from the specs ive been reading. 1.2 dual core, qHD (one step below the retinal screen on the iphone 4).... the HTC screen to me makes up for the slight differences. plus Touchwiz isn't my favorite after my Vibrant experience. Both will be good though.
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Anyone currently fighting this battle in their mind?
yesshh said:
Anyone currently fighting this battle in their mind?
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No.
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If SGS3 came to TMobile, how would you support your argument?
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I'm waiting to see what Samsung has to offer, I'm not due for a new phone until June anyway.
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I'm waiting to see what Samsung has to offer, I'm not due for a new phone until June anyway.
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Exactly the same situation here. If Samsungs new device sucks then its definately gotta be the S. Just hoping that the Galaxy's screen isnt as big as the One X's one. It's just too much... :what:
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If SGS3 came to TMobile, how would you support your argument?
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Well, even though it has it critics, and I do go through periods of using AOSP (and prob will on the S once it's available and stable) I still think Sense is the best custom UI on Android. Simple really, SGS3 can't match that element
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Supposedly its going to have a 1080p screen, to me this is a bad thing.
1) I bet it is bigger than the ONE S and I wasn't quite happy with the size of the ONE X
2) It takes more horse power to run it, so its processor and graphics may be higher but side by side performance will probably be similar due to it having to push more pixels about the place. Also.. 1080p.. on a phone... What's the F'in point??
First i'm 100% sure that Galaxy S III won't have 2gb of ram neither 1080p screen. Its a next generation and since theres obvious settlement betwen manufacturers you can expect same specs as One X. And i'm also pretty sure that it won't have SD card, every manufacturer stops using them, why should they use them, about removable battery i'm not sure, if new galaxy is gonna be thinner then i guess it will have non removable battery.
I think the S3 will have 4.7 screen, so its big, also display will be as good as X. About other specs - I suspect quad core processor, some good graphic component, rumors about 12mp camera.
But anyway, there are only rumors atm, and Im not fan of S2, so I will go for One S as soon as it avaible here
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I'm waiting to see what Samsung has to offer, I'm not due for a new phone until June anyway.
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TobiS87 said:
Exactly the same situation here. If Samsungs new device sucks then its definately gotta be the S. Just hoping that the Galaxy's screen isnt as big as the One X's one. It's just too much... :what:
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same here...
hope the design is going to be something like that (or better)
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but on 3rd may we might get some new infos (... no rumours)
however a display bigger than 4,6" is much to big for my taste...
if thats going to happen, i probably will get myself a ONE S
If it takes T-mobile US as long as it did to get the Galaxy S 2....i'm not waiting.
But then again, i don't want to wait. Im tired of Samsung's plastic devices, ugly touch wiz, and international Galaxy S3 will be different from the US Galaxy S3, which will hinder dev support.
Im sure the one s will have great dev support like the sensation. Every one S around the world will be the exact same and will run the same roms.
The only thing i was hating about htc phones was the bad slcd screen, so happy theres amoled now, and i dont care if its pentile.
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If it takes T-mobile US as long as it did to get the Galaxy S 2....i'm not waiting.
But then again, i don't want to wait. Im tired of Samsung's plastic devices, ugly touch wiz, and international Galaxy S3 will be different from the US Galaxy S3, which will hinder dev support.
Im sure the one s will have great dev support like the sensation. Every one S around the world will be the exact same and will run the same roms.
The only thing i was hating about htc phones was the bad slcd screen, so happy theres amoled now, and i dont care if its pentile.
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There is a rumor tht the one x is coming to Tmo with stock ics. I know the gs3 will be beast but I hate touchwiz and love sense. I had a mt4gs and now have a sg2 and touchwiz kills it. There is no stock ics that's working well, and no sense .: /. I want the One s or the One x one tmobile, but would get the gs3 if there is a stock ics rom
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I am ready to upgrade from my Vibrant. I like my Samsung but the GPS is crap. I'm not sure I would trust a Samsung gps. I keep waiting for the gps to run me over a cliff. Is any Samsung gps as good as HTC?
nothing compares to HTC GPS. I can get a lock in under 15 seconds. no tweaks.
i never lose the satellite. Its found me home many times
kinda yes, I really like GS2 and SAMOLED Plus is great. But we still don't know if GS3 will be SAMOLED HD or SAMOLED HD Plus. It's most likely be the same size as One X, packing same or better CPU, probably same or better quality camera, and most likely missing things like notification light and noise canceling mic.
Already got one s and prefer HTC build
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nothing compares to HTC GPS. I can get a lock in under 15 seconds. no tweaks.
i never lose the satellite. Its found me home many times
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tf442 said:
I am ready to upgrade from my Vibrant. I like my Samsung but the GPS is crap. I'm not sure I would trust a Samsung gps. I keep waiting for the gps to run me over a cliff. Is any Samsung gps as good as HTC?
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Same boat as @tf442. I have a "first month out" Vibrant and GPS has been abysmal from the get-go. I have flashed at least a dozen ROMS (probably more)from Bionix, Trigger all the way to ICS 4.0.4 and they vary, but still no where near other manufacturers GPS. I will not give $$$ to Samsung since they went on the pine in acknowledging any issues with GPS. That, and quit with FROYO. Not good for a top-end phone at the time.
I am eligible for upgrade now, but I don't think I am going to. I might wait out until mid to end-year to upgrade. I am pretty satisfied with my G2 still. Everyone swears it's a great backup phone, but I like it as my main phone all the same.
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There is a rumor tht the one x is coming to Tmo with stock ics.
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That won't happen.
I I bought the Galaxy s5 the day after release and kept it for about a week. Very disappointed with the insanely cheap build quality. Pushing the lock button had a slight creak at times, any sounds coming from the speaker sounded muffled and caused the whole battery door to vibrate, charging port cover wouldn't close all the way. I couldn't believe it. I decided to return it because this was unacceptable. I cannot express how much happier I am with the m8. Literally every single thing about this phone is better aside from the camera if I'm being honest. Rooted and unlocked is something I havnt had for a while now and it feels good to have back. With a custom rom and a few x posed tweaks this is a beast of a phone. I also LOVE the swipe gestures (except for when I'm wiping the screen down...) some people seem to show this phone some hatred or neglect and I simply don't see it. After having owned 3 Samsungs in a row I was looking for an out and I decided on this one (pun intended) I mainly needed something with SD card support and then this beauty came along.
Anyway sorry if that was a huge rambling mess or you didn't care for what I had to say I just felt like saying it. Let me know how you guys are liking the phone too and what your favorite parts about it are.
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I have to completely agree with you.
I had an S2, S3, then an S4 before this. I loved my S3 and S4 but I was just so tired of Samsung and their ****ty touchwiz and locked bootloaders. Though I did have a Loki'd S4 I was just bored with Samsung phones. The months before the M8 came out I told myself, "man, if that thing has an external SD slot I'm getting it". And sure enough it did. I woulda got the M7 if it had one.. Anyways, I got the M8 the day after it dropped on Verizon and I thought for sure I would want to return it and get the S5. But lo' and behold, the S5 has dropped (no root yet still) and I honestly don't even want it. I got an unlock, S-OFF, custom recovery, and can flash to my hearts content.
I think Sense is such a better UI, more refined, faster, more user friendly, and more minimalist. I love my M8. Even with just Weaksauce I was much happier with my M8. Like you said, the one thing it lacks in is the camera, but it still takes plenty good shots for me. I've taken some killer pictures with it. And the front facing camera is killer. Best I have used.
All in all, I have a killer phone, that FEEL like it's 600$ price tag, has amazing speakers, software, and I can do what I want to it. I have never been happier with a device. Never thought I would say this but... I am super glad I jumped ship from Samsung. I love this phone.
Couldn't have agreed more man. Verizon Samsungs I think have seen their last days of bootloader workarounds and possibly even rooting. It's unfortunate that Samsung is now apple and everyone now believes it's the best phone ever created. I guess that's still better than people choosing the iphone. Anyway did you here about the horrible camera failure on the s5? I lold so hard when I saw that the day after I exchanged
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Turned my gs5 into a drawer phone when I switched to the m8 a few days ago. I shouldn't have waited for that and should have picked up the m8 from the get go
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Couldn't have agreed more man. Verizon Samsungs I think have seen their last days of bootloader workarounds and possibly even rooting. It's unfortunate that Samsung is now apple and everyone now believes it's the best phone ever created. I guess that's still better than people choosing the iphone. Anyway did you here about the horrible camera failure on the s5? I lold so hard when I saw that the day after I exchanged
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Yeah the Samsung following now is just like the i-sheep. Lol. It's rediculous. If you go over to the S5 forums and post you'll have been crawling all over you calling you a troll and saying how jealous you are and that's why your posting in the S5 forums. Lol.
Anyways, no I didn't hear about the S5 camera failure, what is that about?
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Turned my gs5 into a drawer phone when I switched to the m8 a few days ago. I shouldn't have waited for that and should have picked up the m8 from the get go
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Where did you get the Dope blue M7? That looks badass. I always coveted the Black M7s, but I never seen a blue one.
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Yeah the Samsung following now is just like the i-sheep. Lol. It's rediculous. If you go over to the S5 forums and post you'll have been crawling all over you calling you a troll and saying how jealous you are and that's why your posting in the S5 forums. Lol.
Anyways, no I didn't hear about the S5 camera failure, what is that about?
Where did you get the Dope blue M7? That looks badass. I always coveted the Black M7s, but I never seen a blue one.
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I picked it up from best buy I think it was best buy special. Its mint I need to get that up on swappa with the others in that pic. Wish the m8 would come in that blue color. This phone grew on me almost instantly well its only been 3 days and its awesome.
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I love this phone.
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Yeah, sometimes I take the M8 glacial silver out of its clear rubbery case and hold its cold aluminum body in my hand and tell it "You are the One...the One I love." I brag about it to friends and especially fruit phone users who like the look of its larger screen and brushed aluminum body. It is a gorgeous piece of art and the only rival is not here yet.
The Sammysheep and the isheep are scared that they might not be cool if they dont have wha everyone else has. So hTc is probably scary since they arent familiar with the species. Thats okay I really dont mind if my device is better than everyone elses. I can live with it.
This has truly been the best android experience to date. Samsung really dropped the ball with the S5 and everything about it screams "lazy". I'm proud of HTC for making a strong comeback this year and trying hard to really improve in a lot of areas rather than marr the experience with more useless bloat. Many people I know either have or are getting the M8.
I hope HTC can get back in the black soon because having the extra competition has worked in our favor. Samsung can't just rinse and repeat and expect to have a superior product. I hope their new marketing director (formerly of Samsung, responsible for their rise in awareness) can set things straight. Maybe then we'll see a better GS6 that isn't rubbish.
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Yup. Ran Samsung all last year and had every one of the last year's models. Can't say I regret the switch. The s4 was the last Samsung phone i owned where I could actually do something. The note 3 was locked all to hell and I couldn't stand it. Tbh I was kind of excited when I thought the Verizon s5 would actually get something.. Boy was I wrong. I only played with it at the Verizon store. Wasn't impressed.. TouchWiz is STILL laggy as ever. Sense is nice, clean and efficient. Not to mention, of course, s-off. This device is well built, sleek, fast and stays cool under pressure.
It is kind of sad though. If you haven't already, go check out the Verizon s5 section. You're bound to get a laugh or two.
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Yeah the Samsung following now is just like the i-sheep. Lol. It's rediculous. If you go over to the S5 forums and post you'll have been crawling all over you calling you a troll and saying how jealous you are and that's why your posting in the S5 forums. Lol.
Anyways, no I didn't hear about the S5 camera failure, what is that about?
Where did you get the Dope blue M7? That looks badass. I always coveted the Black M7s, but I never seen a blue one.
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the blue ones you can get from best buy exclusive
I've owned about every phone since the original Droid.
Having said that, this is hands down the best device I have EVER owned.
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First time ever on any Android handset, took it off the charger at 6 a.m. this morning. When I put it back on moments ago before heading to bed (moments from now) it was "all the way down" (not) to 56% after a full day of calls; wifi on for hours; bluetooth on for a bit streaming audio, etc. etc.
This is the phone that's really Incredible.
All this positive stuff is great. Mine is arriving on Monday and I can't wait. Coming from an S3 and many other Android devices before that.
All my friends, family and coworkers are tried of hearing about how awesome this phone is.
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I've owned about every phone since the original Droid.
Having said that, this is hands down the best device I have EVER owned.
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I'll be coming over here to the M8 threads after a trip to BestBuy later today. Day 15 of tolerating the Galaxy S5, done screwing with it. Root, here I come!
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I'll be coming over here to the M8 threads after a trip to BestBuy later today. Day 15 of tolerating the Galaxy S5, done screwing with it. Root, here I come!
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On an aside, your posts over there had me rolling.
Welcome!
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oneplusone > m8 ?
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oneplusone > m8 ?
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SHOTS FIRED
You're in a Verizon forum, son.
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jpmcnown said:
I'll be coming over here to the M8 threads after a trip to BestBuy later today. Day 15 of tolerating the Galaxy S5, done screwing with it. Root, here I come!
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Trust me bro... You will have zero regrets! I read your aka P.O.S. thread over there in the s5 thread... Lol.. that thread had me rolling... All those guys pissing and moaning...they have the power to get a unlocked phone and keep Verizon coverage... But there sheep... After my locked down note 3 that I paid cash for... Samsung will never get another penny from me! HTC 4 life!