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P6200/P6210 without INFRARED? Send it back!

There are some P6200/P6210 Tab 7 plus getting sold crippled, without the infrared port.
My Tab 7 Plus P6200 has infrared.
The infrared function is very cool and special.
Look here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-P6210MAAXAR-features
"With a built-in IR blaster and the very intuitive, very handy Smart Remote powered by Peel, it could quickly become your favorite – and maybe your only – remote control."
Look here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-P6210MAAXAR
"Discover, Tap and Watch" experience with Peel Smart Remote TV App"
Look here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/smart-remote-discover-tap-watch
"Thanks to a built-in infrared blaster and Smart Remote, your Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus can seamlessly manage any home entertainment system, without hardware or cables."
Look here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p6200_galaxy_tab_7_0_plus-4208.php
"Infrared port - Yes"
Look here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3218&c=samsung_gt-p6200_galaxy_tab_7.0_plus_16gb
"Infrared_Gate: Supported"
Look how a REAL P6200/P6210 looks like:
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The black dot is the Infrared port.
Did they give you a discount for selling you a crippled version?
You paid for a P6200/P6210 with infrared, then insist to get what you paid for and nothing less. Send it back and say you want the real version with infrared.

I agree, the IR Blaster is a great feature, but the Peel app that goes with it is pretty horrible. Are there any other apps to use with it?

I think all Tabs7+ selling in East&Southeast asia dont have infrared port. It may be cripple in your eyes, but I'm quite happy since the price is 500USD for 3G 16GB version.

Just because there are different models doesn't mean it's crippled. I'd happily rip the IR chip out of my 6210 and send it to someone who wants it if it was possible as I don't have any equipment that's so antiquated it uses IR anymore.

I am super happy with my IR Blaster as it makes me feel like the tech dude from NCIS: LA to be able to control my good old box tv.
And no, I do not believe it is bad to have a tablet without a IR Blaster.
In fact, as much as I like the IR Blaster, I don't think it is going to become a thing as many people now in days are getting the newer tvs where as mine doesn't even have a HDMI it is so old.

romeokk said:
I think all Tabs7+ selling in East&Southeast asia dont have infrared port. It may be cripple in your eyes, but I'm quite happy since the price is 500USD for 3G 16GB version.
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nope.. ur wrong. they do have infrared port. plus 6 months unlimited internet packet with XL operator, in Indonesia.!!! and i paid, almost the same price of 500USD.

I don't have IR blaster (made in Vietnam) ... i don't use IR anyway so I'll keep mine
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tazm0n said:
I agree, the IR Blaster is a great feature, but the Peel app that goes with it is pretty horrible. Are there any other apps to use with it?
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there's a thread, started by Zokama, that discuss exactly that: an app tp access the IRBlaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357007
I'm hoping he gets successful.
I think he may use some expert help, if you are capable.

asxavier said:
there's a thread, started by Zokama, that discuss exactly that: an app tp access the IRBlaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357007
I'm hoping he gets successful.
I think he may use some expert help, if you are capable.
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Cool- Thanks for letting me know!
My guess is that Peel is letting Sammy include a full version of their app without having to pay a royalty in return for locking the hardware to the app. I'd rather it was a "freemium" app and have the choice to use something else, or at least release the api to devs. Oh well, I'll check out that link you posted and see if I can throw some support on the dev!

Just purchased a P6200 sphere in Hong Kong from an authorized dealer. It does not come with an IR port and I could find no information about it coming with the port from the Samsung Hong Kong website.
Wonder what else, if anything, is also different?
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I am DISGUSTED by Samsung. I'm in Toronto, Canada and just bought a 7.0 plus, been hapilly playing with it for the last day +, when I finally decided to check out the Peel App, which was one of it's best added features. No App, and then realized no IR Blaster. WTF are these greedy SOB's thinking? Don't have time to pick one up in the states before a big trip or else I would've done that.

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I am DISGUSTED by Samsung. I'm in Toronto, Canada and just bought a 7.0 plus, been hapilly playing with it for the last day +, when I finally decided to check out the Peel App, which was one of it's best added features. No App, and then realized no IR Blaster. WTF are these greedy SOB's thinking? Don't have time to pick one up in the states before a big trip or else I would've done that.
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GUessing they're thinking that since the Peel app is 200 times better in the US, where it pulls in info about the channels and all that sort of thing, having the IR blaster in the versions of the tab that are sold in markets where the app would only work with very basic features isn't worth it.

Cptnodegard said:
GUessing they're thinking that since the Peel app is 200 times better in the US, where it pulls in info about the channels and all that sort of thing, having the IR blaster in the versions of the tab that are sold in markets where the app would only work with very basic features isn't worth it.
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And that would make sense if most of our channels were different than the states. Our cable boxes are the same, and most of us aren't watching the beavertail network (although if somebody made that it would put playboy out of business). Canadians mostly watch NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CNN, etc...

Before buying My P6200 I've read 'bout its IR module.
I said myself "ohhh cool, I'll be back to the old NOKIA IR REMOTE age... When shutting down a TV with a phone was something amazing"
Once I bought IT... SURPRISEEEEE No IR module anywhere :screwy: it's not a big problem anyway. But, I was sure it ha the IR... So I'm asking Just WHY to show a thing when you'd know it won't came out fon all versions???
Bhoooooo... Anyway, mine is an italian P6200 - made in Vietnam
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Just wanted to add that my unit is a P6210, the same model # as the states unit that includes the IR blaster. Buyer beware. If I end up keeping this thing, I'll be really peeved when I realize ICS is NEVER coming out for it.

kzod said:
Just wanted to add that my unit is a P6210, the same model # as the states unit that includes the IR blaster. Buyer beware. If I end up keeping this thing, I'll be really peeved when I realize ICS is NEVER coming out for it.
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Also to add that BB (USA) is selling their P6210 (with IR) for $300.
BB (Canada) sells their P6210 (no IR) for $350.
Exchange rate is ~ 1:1.
Higher sales tax in Canada.
(... although I did already have problems with the initial tab, and needed an exchange. I am trying to calm myself thinking that it's not worth it to save the ~$100 if you ended up having to deal with the cross-broader exchange)

kzod said:
Just wanted to add that my unit is a P6210, the same model # as the states unit that includes the IR blaster. Buyer beware. If I end up keeping this thing, I'll be really peeved when I realize ICS is NEVER coming out for it.
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Samsung already confirmed that it's coming out. Eventually. LOL.
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Here in Thailand all P6200+P6200L sold without IR

Well I also was shocked to discover that my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus did NOT have the IR port. Mine is the EU version - bought from Expansys.
I complained and eventually spoke to someone from Samsung (who I found out is also a developer here) and it is true that the official Samsung websites are now misleading (and all the review sites!!) because apparently they are not making it any more with the IR port because of overheating problems. He promised to update the offending websites over the next few days. Lets see if it happens. The IR port control for the TV was one of the features that made me buy it and set it apart from other tablets.
I was going to send it back but then I thought none of the other tablets have such a feature so I SUPPOSE there is no point as I did get it at a reasonable £200 (for a Samsung).
I notice the UK site does not mention the IR port but with 99.9% of sites talking enthusiastically about it it is reasonable to assume that my unit would have one. Quite angry right now!!

I have a p6210 version bought in europe, does this have irda? Or only for u.s. versions.
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Made an iphone user a believer today.

Have a friend i work with who has a Iphone 5. He hasn't had a Android phone since 2011, which happened to be an Xperia Play . This was basically the phone that gave him his lasting impression of Android. Up until today
We were on break and he saw me using the multi window in conjunction with pen window and goes " what the f*ck. can that do the eye scrolling thing too?" Im like yea. He says " it pauses the video when you look away at it too?" Im like yea. So for the next 10 minutes i showed him action memo, scrapbooker, 4k video, a little Asphalt 8, and S Note. The look on his face after seeing all of this was priceless enough. But then he says "f*ck this ****" and throws his phone (which was in an otterbox) on the ground jokingly. Im not kidding. I say to him "come on man your good with the Iphone 5. i know you want that 5s.) He says "na i need that sh*t in my life."
It has to be one of the most rewarding feelings ever to have that happen lol.

Haha yeah, this is my favorite thing to do. I feel rewarded when I convert people!
Seems like samsungs gimmicky features are almost made for demonstration purposes (whens the last time you used air gesture out of convenience)
The thing that gets iphone users from my experience is the photo sphere, and how you can view them using the gyro.

I remember that in my next demonstration. hehe

hehehe, That because your friend not F IFan.
-Ifan everytime they hold their f phone they all said the best they don't accept world is bigger than they thought.
-I'm an FanDroid, hahaha.
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LOL? No offense, but you guys are acting like you spread an ideology or religion.
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plznote said:
LOL? No offense, but you guys are acting like you spread an ideology or religion.
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Do you not also attend The Church of Android? Please, feel free to stop by this Sunday. We'll be preaching the good word of Andy Rubin and how he created Android in 7 days.
Cupcake 1:5-
Then Andy Rubin blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
The Church of Android
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Wooo, you fixed someone that was brainwashed by apple It's always a good thing!

They truly are brainwashed.
After my photosphere demo this guy was trying to convince me that his iph5s panorama feature was better and mine was lacking by not having it.
He was speechless when I showed him we have stock panorama as well as photosphere.
Someone needs to make a 'how to convert an iphone believer' article.

Lol. Thats rich

Try not to bring him here, too much useless negativity here will make him rethink :-/

I was able to successfully harvested many souls with my note 2. Not sure what I'm supposed to do with them now, but I guess it's always useful to have some spares......

cheesekeeper said:
I was able to successfully harvested many souls with my note 2. Not sure what I'm supposed to do with them now, but I guess it's always useful to have some spares......
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Start selling em to the devil. That dude pays top dollar.
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SgtGoldy said:
Start selling em to the devil. That dude pays top dollar.
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But he just got them away from Apple. Now you say to send them back?....
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Once he gets it, show him the video share option... it'll blow his mind,

Just think soon you can really show how big of idiots those Apple people are with your $60 Note 3 official cases.

vicegrips said:
Just think soon you can really show how big of idiots those Apple people are with your $60 Note 3 official cases.
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But heres the thing, you can get a case off amazon for >$10.00 and 9/10 times its actually a good case.

Lol had a similar experience myself!
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I have got 4 people at my office to order the note 3 , 2 others to order the S4 and 2 to change over to tmobile, at this point tmobile and Samsung should start paying me a commission

I convinced the guy who sold me my note 3 to get one.
Its always fun to go into a store and spit out more knowledge about the phones in the store than they know about.
He sold his 5 to get a 5s but got the note 3 instead.

Had a similar experience today. Went to find a working Note 3 demo unit at a retail store today. After contently checking out the Note 3 was playing around with iDevices since I was curious how many apps and browser tabs it would take to exhaust the low DRAM they're equipped with and cause memory used by background apps to be cleared thereby forcing a reload upon switching back and losing whatever I was working on. The iPad Mini is particularly bad with only 512MB DRAM where all it took was one browser tab displaying a mobile device review with a lot of comments and Apple maps with 3D enabled where task switching back to the browser caused a reload so if I was in the middle of writing a comment it would've been lost. While testing the same on iPhone 5S another customer wanders over and asks me what I thought of the iPhone 5S (he mentioned he currently owns an iPhone 4 something). While refraining from being critical such as not mentioning the toyish looking iOS 7, copy of Android's drop-down quick-access menu but swipe up and pop-up from bottom instead, non-intuitiveness with double-tapping the home button to task switch when that action is associated with zooming in (Android's long press makes more sense), what I was testing with low DRAM, etc. I merely mentioned that the experience was ok but the screen was too small and that it would be better with a bigger screen. He acknowledged and mentioned he's also looking into the Galaxy S4, I responded by suggesting the kick ass Note 3 but he says he's concerned with getting something too big then I pointed to my front pocket and asked if it looked too big and pulled out the Note 2. Commented that once you go big it's tough to go back. Shortly later I see him with the sales associate in front of the Note 3. Felt I saved a soul. :angel:

1 Year Old Mobile Device Residual Value Comparison From 1,000 Real Ebay SOLD Listings

I saw a thread on here started by someone who thought that their Note 3 purchase lost a lot of value because it's a Samsung product and I decided to investigate the validity of this perception.
I took data from the most recent 1000 Ebay SOLD Listings...listings where the item was actually SOLD and a buyer paid money for it. I did this for 1 year old mobile devices from both Samsung and Apple flagship models for the Verizon network:
Galaxy Note II 16gb
iPhone 5 16gb
Here are the results:
AVERAGE
$341.47 - Note 2
$392.19 - iPhone 5
$220.87 - Nexus 4
AVG - 10 highest/lowest values
$340.73 - Note 2
$392.01 - iPhone 5
$221.25 - Nexus 4
RESIDUAL VALUE
65% - iPhone 5
63% - Nexus 4
57% - Note 2
Of course, I'm not claiming this to be scientific but it gives us a rough idea.
No matter what phone you buy, this industry is seriously broken when the product you buy loses ~50% of its value in just one year. People are drunk on this stupidity and Samsung and Apple are both getting rich from feeding this crazy addiction!
I'm glad that the bar for "cheap" phones keeps being raised by Google Nexus devices. As these fairly high end cheap phones enter the used market and as consumer realize what a ripoff brand new phones are, the used phone market is going to increase in my opinion.
I think a used Note 3 will hold its value much better than the Note 2 since its specs are so far ahead of the pack, even as a used device, it will hold its own. This is all speculation, we'll find out for sure when the Note 4 comes out and people start selling their Note 3's.
Please see the PDF for details. At first, I was only planning to compare the Note and iphone, but then threw in the Nexus as well at the last minute. Again...NOT SCIENTIFIC, just a general idea.
BOTTOM LINE: You want to lose a lot of money in a year? Buy a mobile device! It probably has one of the worst residual values of anything you can buy! LOL!

This is great information. I got my note 3 at an upgrade price of $188. If I can get anything near that for it in two years I will be very happy. Thanks for the investigation
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Ah yeah and thanks to diminishing returns, I think this market will start to slow down soon, just as the pc market has. It gets to the point where it's just not worth the effort to upgrade. Note 4 is rumoured to have an even higher resolution screen for example. What's the point when the Note 3 screen is already crystal clear?
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dr.m0x said:
Ah yeah and thanks to diminishing returns, I think this market will start to slow down soon, just as the pc market has. It gets to the point where it's just not worth the effort to upgrade. Note 4 is rumoured to have an even higher resolution screen for example. What's the point when the Note 3 screen is already crystal clear?
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I agree! Anything above 350ppi is just a waste of GPU cycles and battery. If you were President of the Note division at Samsung, what would you do to the Note 4 to improve it? I mean, it's a highly competitive market, how else do you impress consumers and fend off your competitors' spec jabs at your product?

Only way to get ppl to buy the next phone is if:
1.) Rollup Flexible Screen
2.) x86 compatible
3.) Last > a week (removable battery) (same weight and volume)

Dual front facing speakers with amplification and better camera.
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midmadn said:
Dual front facing speakers with amplification and better camera.
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Doesn't take much to impress you does it?
Lots of HTC phones have dual front facing cameras and all cameras pretty much already exceed expectations for their typical intended purposes.

klau1 said:
Doesn't take much to impress you does it?
Lots of HTC phones have dual front facing cameras and all cameras pretty much already exceed expectations for their typical intended purposes.
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Respectfully disagree. I have a Canon S120 that costs 1/3 as much as any super phone, but no super phone can take pictures like this little thing.
Cell phone cameras have come a long way, but they still have a long way to go before equaling point and shoots like the Canon S120.
Personally, I'm not too worried about battery life because it's easy to swap in a fresh one. One week on heavy use? That seems too long. Three full days on heavy use seems more reasonable to me.
Roll up screen would be nice but that might not come until the Note 7/8/9. I would be happy if they made the screen with flexible AMOLED so that if you dropped it, it would not break. Then, coat it with something scratch proof so it won't scratch either.
I liked where Sony is going with their waterproof models.
If the Note 4 has unbreakable glass on the front with a scratch proof coating AND exceeds Sony's waterproof phones' ratings, then I would definitely upgrade again.
They can spend the rest of their time optimizing TW and maybe adding one or two new features (if they are really cool features) but for the most part, optimize and stabilize.
And lastly, improve the camera, add OIS...try to make it as good as a Canon.
Oh wait...how about dual micro SD card slots? That would be dope! 64gb micro SD x 2 + 32gb onboard = 160gb total for those of us who hate using the NSA monitored cloud.
Well, just remember, Samsung is staffed by people and people enjoy vacations and holidays as much as anyone else. Gotta pick and choose your battles. We can't get everything we want in just one year.

Amazing post, thank-you. I posed myself this exact question this morning, and then 20 minutes later I see your post.

klau1 said:
Doesn't take much to impress you does it?
Lots of HTC phones have dual front facing cameras and all cameras pretty much already exceed expectations for their typical intended purposes.
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What Would Impress ME Is - If you could read, quote and actually comment on what was written. I never posted anything about dual front facing cameras.
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midmadn said:
What Would Impress ME Is - If you could read, quote and actually comment on what was written. I never posted anything about dual front facing cameras.
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Don't know if you know this, but dual facing cameras actually don't exist on any HTC phone, you know what? In fact they don't exist on ANY phone.
On the contrary, dual SPEAKERS exist on quite many HTC Phones.
Heres the interesting question, based on logic, What do you think is the liklihood that "camera" was actually a mistype of "speaker"?
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Inference, I suggest trying it someday, it's like autocorrect, except in your brain, that is, if you have one. (which would be an impressive turn of events for you)

Neo is that you on the photo?
Totally off topic I know but whoever that girl is she is hawwwwwt!
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Whoever is that? Aren't you in for a treat, it's an Olivia Wilde Look-a-Like LOL
Who would have thought a Russian model would be interested in smartphones and knows statistics? /sarcasm
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Whoever is that? Aren't you in for a treat, it's an Olivia Wilde Look-a-Like LOL
Who would have thought a Russian model would be interested in smartphones and knows statistics? /sarcasm
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Sarcasm aside, she would be sexy as hell!
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This is really interesting I always thought the same kinda thing since I buy and sell on craigslist ....nice tho you spend the time and effort to comply all the data...thanks again super interesting
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[/COLOR]Inference, I suggest trying it someday, it's like autocorrect, except in your brain, that is, if you have one. (which would be an impressive turn of events for you)
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Ever heard of PROOFREADING? It's what anyone with half a brain does when posting on a forum. Especially when trying to snowball people into thinking they are more intelligent than others when in fact the opposite is true.
I'll let you have the last jab as I have already wasted more time than I care to on your childish, immature personal attacks.
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Excellent thread very interesting data.
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Who cares abt money lol I will get note 4 if it comes out anytime .
Just it gives a good feeling to be uptodate lol
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I'd like to see the Note 4 have a full size SD slot so we can have 256GB on one card. Managing filesystem across two microSDs would be a mess. One SD doesn't have that problem.
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midmadn said:
Ever heard of PROOFREADING?
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midmadn said:
Dual front facing speakers with amplification and better camera.
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Ever heard of GOOGLING?
If you had even bother to look on the first link you'd have known dual facing speakers exist already.
All without wasting anyone's time and effort reading your ignorant time wasting question.

LG Pro 2 coming to America?

Anyone know?
I really want to get this device. Loved the G2 but felt it was a bit small compared to my Note 3.
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I heard in April it should be coming out in America but that was only a rumor. I can decide if I should wait for this phone or get the note 3 now?!

I've just picked up the Korean variant of the LG G Pro 2, and it's a great phone. Good weight, beautiful screen, and although it's plastic, I really like the color and pattern on the back.
I'm just posting for those who are debating between a Note 3 or G Pro 2. Unless it's not being launched in the states, I would definitely wait for the G Pro 2.

seand88 said:
I heard in April it should be coming out in America but that was only a rumor. I can decide if I should wait for this phone or get the note 3 now?!
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Are the Korean specs any different than other versions?
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jr71x said:
Are the Korean specs any different than other versions?
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have a look at this .. the Korean version
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131122028459?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Classic!!!

They may just have pockets big enough for the G Pro 2!!
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I read April 10th launch outside SK

tsaojam said:
I've just picked up the Korean variant of the LG G Pro 2, and it's a great phone. Good weight, beautiful screen, and although it's plastic, I really like the color and pattern on the back.
I'm just posting for those who are debating between a Note 3 or G Pro 2. Unless it's not being launched in the states, I would definitely wait for the G Pro 2.
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Hello I am interested in getting the LG Gpro 2 korean version. Two quick questions. Korean phones usually have an 80 character SMS limit. Did yours have this limit?
Also because the phone thinks you are roaming outside of Korea it will display dual clocks on the lock screen. Has that happened to you?
Many thanks for your help!

Pacman1969 said:
Hello I am interested in getting the LG Gpro 2 korean version. Two quick questions. Korean phones usually have an 80 character SMS limit. Did yours have this limit?
Also because the phone thinks you are roaming outside of Korea it will display dual clocks on the lock screen. Has that happened to you?
Many thanks for your help!
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Hi Pacman, I have the F350 K variant. The SMS limit is 140 now (my previous Korean G2 indeed had that 80 character limit), not sure why the change. As for the dual clocks on the lock screen, it's still there. I'm rooted though, so there's a method to disable that.
Other than the fact that xposed doesn't support LG's with kitkat, this phone is amazing - definitely the fastest and smoothest Android I've ever used. I just wish that I could adjust the pixel density as the screen real estate isn't maximized in my opinion. But I guess once xposed starts working that can be fixed too.
Hope this helps!

How's the camera

@Former - There are already loads of posts on that in other threads as well as on YouTube. Check them out.
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tsaojam said:
I've just picked up the Korean variant of the LG G Pro 2, and it's a great phone. Good weight, beautiful screen, and although it's plastic, I really like the color and pattern on the back.
I'm just posting for those who are debating between a Note 3 or G Pro 2. Unless it's not being launched in the states, I would definitely wait for the G Pro 2.
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am I correct in saying your phone will not work of LTE for AT&T?

alwayslearning said:
am I correct in saying your phone will not work of LTE for AT&T?
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Sorry, I'm based out in Asia so I wouldn't know if the bands work for AT&T. I do believe, but am NOT SURE, that all the S and K versions of Korean LG phones work worldwide while the L versions do not.

Wish T-Mobile would sell this one. It was a shame T-Mobile didn't sell G Pro as it's much cheaper than Note 2 but the performance is comparable.

FYI, talked to local Tmo store and they said they'll carry it for sure. No specific info.
So, take this with a grain of salt...

I got g pro 2 d838 for while. Light wight, big screen, just fit ut pocket. Only bad news is 3rd party app can't save or writing its data into the external sd,. Otherwise, everything is outstanding.
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jc042982 said:
I got g pro 2 d838 for while. Light wight, big screen, just fit ut pocket. Only bad news is 3rd party app can't save or writing its data into the external sd,. Otherwise, everything is outstanding.
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I heard in April it should be coming out in America but it is already April and I have not heard of any updates yet.

Anyone heard any updates on when the LG G 2 Pro is coming to the US and on what carriers?

Classic or Frontier

I've done some online research but I am not sure I get the full picture. From what I understand, the difference between them is mainly appearance but not much else.
Can someone please clarify this? I'm supposed to make a decision today or tomorrow at max on which watch I'll be picking up. I really like the Classic one because it looks like it can be worn with just about any outfit whereas the Frontier looks a bit more rugged, kind of like a Casio G-Shock which is more with athletic wear and stuff.
What's your recommendation and why?
Thanks!

I have the frontier and wear it with whatever I have on lol. Then again I'm not very picky about stuff and don't usually dress up
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amyf27 said:
I have the frontier and wear it with whatever I have on lol. Then again I'm not very picky about stuff and don't usually dress up
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Is the Frontier, by any chance, heavier than the Classic or do they weigh exactly the same? I'm thinking of paying Samsung a visit today and see if they have both versions so I can compare, I guess it's always better to do it in person than simply from pictures. I'm not sure I'll be able to find either one in the store, though, because smart watches aren't popular at all over here.
The reason I am leaning towards the Classic is because it looks a bit like my Moto 360 2nd Gen whereas the Frontier is a different look.

Probably about the same
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I've chosen the Frontier as the lower black plastic frame (same for both models) hides better with the dark color, it really stands out (for me at least...) with the Classic. Other than that, both models are really beautiful
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Originally I had the S2. Funny timing it became defective and for whatever reason, tmobile replaced with a certified preowned frontier. I love the thing. Have the green and black custom band on it for now
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I have the classic and the only difference is the looks of it both have the same function is you're getting the wifi on only version. The classic is nice for that I can wear it for almost anythibg and I also wear my classic for sports like running and biking just fine.

zune70 said:
I have the classic and the only difference is the looks of it both have the same function is you're getting the wifi on only version. The classic is nice for that I can wear it for almost anythibg and I also wear my classic for sports like running and biking just fine.
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Could you please explain what you mean by the wifi thing? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

SergioA said:
I've chosen the Frontier as the lower black plastic frame (same for both models) hides better with the dark color, it really stands out (for me at least...) with the Classic. Other than that, both models are really beautiful
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Could you elaborate on that with some pictures? I was going to pick it up today but there's a problem with my debit card so I am going to have to delay till tomorrow.
EDIT: Oh! I think I get it. You're talking about the black frame with the numbers (05, 10, 15, 20, etc.) correct?

TarekElsakka said:
Could you please explain what you mean by the wifi thing? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
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For the Samsung gear s3 they have a wifi only version and a 4g lte version that can be used with your carrier well only certain carriers. With the 4g lte you can use the watch to answer call and use internet without a phone connection. If you never heard of this or your phone carrier doesn't support this then disregard this as the wifi version will be the one you'll be getting then where you'll need to have a phone connection to use the watch.

@zune70 thanks for explaining it. Our carriers in Egypt offer connections only using SIM cards, so I am assuming the S3, even the 4G LTE version, doesn't have a SIM card slot, right? In which case it'll be useless.

TarekElsakka said:
@zune70 thanks for explaining it. Our carriers in Egypt offer connections only using SIM cards, so I am assuming the S3, even the 4G LTE version, doesn't have a SIM card slot, right? In which case it'll be useless.
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It uses an esim for gear s3 which is basically meant s the simple is built into the watch and not replaceable and your country probably doesn't support esim at the moment so this doesn't concern you right now

TarekElsakka said:
Could you elaborate on that with some pictures? I was going to pick it up today but there's a problem with my debit card so I am going to have to delay till tomorrow.
EDIT: Oh! I think I get it. You're talking about the black frame with the numbers (05, 10, 15, 20, etc.) correct?
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Have a look at this picture, I'm referring to the lower black frame, the one "in touch" with your wrist, containing the heart rate sensor, microphone and loudspeaker
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Two differences:
Weight, the frontier is heavier.
And Color obviously. The Frontier is marketed as being a "adventure" style, while the classic is supposed to be more fancy looking because its shiny and silver.
Its preference really.

I went ahead and purchased the Classic version a couple of hours ago and now I just put it on the charger. Any recommendations for custom watchfaces and stuff like that? I'm used to Android Wear and downloading watch faces from websites like Facerepo and importing them using applications like Watchmaker and such, but I am guessing the process is different with Samsung Tizen.

TarekElsakka said:
I went ahead and purchased the Classic version a couple of hours ago and now I just put it on the charger. Any recommendations for custom watchfaces and stuff like that? I'm used to Android Wear and downloading watch faces from websites like Facerepo and importing them using applications like Watchmaker and such, but I am guessing the process is different with Samsung Tizen.
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Both facer, and Watchmaker have apps on the Gear now. So same business as usual.

Too many watchfaces. I burned a an hour of my life looking at the dizzying number of watchfaces. A lot is junk but there are some really solid efforts in there. Indeed, my go to watchface isn't stock.
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Both facer, and Watchmaker have apps on the Gear now. So same business as usual.
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