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Battery Life: Doubling it.

Okay so i'm a new user with a HTC Fuze and i haven't customized it yet, just added a few tweaks. The first thing I noticed about this phone is that it's battery life is too short. I have "locked" data with AT&T to not get extra charges so i'm not connecting to Media Net and it still consumes a lot of battery.
I went out of my house at 2:30pm with 100% and kept texting people in a 1 hour bus trip (round trip) so 2 hours in total using the device and when I got home the battery was half-way gone.
I bet i could spend the battery of this phone in less than 20 minutes -> activate flash led + music in the background + wifi + bluetooth + 3g + texting at the same time / browsing internet.
Well after looking for tweaks and whatnot this is deff the best solution (however, a little expensive) for this phone:
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It's a 3000mAh battery. (Regular HTC brings a 1340mAh stock)
It costs 89.99$ (free shipping)
So for anyone interested in increasing their battery by the double, and even a bit more than the stock phone that's your best solution. If you combine this with a few tweaks your phone will be able to work moderate-high use for more than 15 hours.
PS. Another solution that i found is a portable charger (AA battery size) that you can connect to your device anywhere at anytime. You can perform almost 2 FULL charges with only 1 battery.

I have no problem getting at least two or three days out of a single charge. Stock ROM with the TF3D garbage scrubbed and replaced with SPB. Haven't disabled the 3G either, and it downloads my email every 5 minutes. I'm not otherwise a heavy internet user, though it sounds like I use it more than you. I maybe talk on it for 20 or 30 minutes a day.

I understand 100% what you mean. I do a fair amount of texting, but usually a full day, and by the end of the day (if the battery lasts that long), my battery is completely gone. Texting really does take up a lot of battery from the phone, and there isn't any way around it. Although some roms take up more battery than others (energy), and some take less (ROMeOS), your still gonna suck a lot of your battery by texting. I thought about that battery as well a while back, but after thinking about it, I decided that I really don't want to make my tp any thicker than it already is.

Install Advanced Config and take a look at the power options.. Advanced Config is a must have for Windows Mobile Phones.

After one hour of nonstop texting I have about 90% battery left. I would suggest to go with a different ROM.

jdwrrzmm said:
After one hour of nonstop texting I have about 90% battery left. I would suggest to go with a different ROM.
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wat rom are you using? i usually do hours of nonstop and my phone will just die out..

Loner2DEnd said:
wat rom are you using? i usually do hours of nonstop and my phone will just die out..
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you might have a data connection on continously... or something(wifi)...

djcaston said:
I understand 100% what you mean. I do a fair amount of texting, but usually a full day, and by the end of the day (if the battery lasts that long), my battery is completely gone. Texting really does take up a lot of battery from the phone, and there isn't any way around it. Although some roms take up more battery than others (energy), and some take less (ROMeOS), your still gonna suck a lot of your battery by texting. I thought about that battery as well a while back, but after thinking about it, I decided that I really don't want to make my tp any thicker than it already is.
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No, the battery is the same shape as the default one.
It just has more capacity, your phone will look the same.

Nope, not true, the Mugen Super Extended battery comes with a custom replacement back door !
See : http://cgi.ebay.com/MUGEN-SUPER-EXT...temQQimsxZ20081226?IMSfp=TL081226112001r31958
( just as reference and for pics )
Cheers,
JCE

thazeid said:
No, the battery is the same shape as the default one.
It just has more capacity, your phone will look the same.
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i don't think LiOn chemistry has improved so much over a year to pack three times the amperage on the same size...
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-EXTENDED-BA...trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:2128|293:1|294:50
they give you a new cover... it IS thicker
i myself am planning to see how much battery i need, and possibly upgrade to a 2200mAh battery (thicker too)

Oh, i didnt see that...
HTC Fuze is too thick to be even thicker...

thazeid said:
Oh, i didnt see that...
HTC Fuze is too thick to be even thicker...
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i hang my Fuze off my belt, so i think a little more thickness is worth it if i'm going far away from my charger...

might as well call it HTC Brick after you put that cover on it

I found s2u2 to be a massive batt drain on my fuze running current attsom. I was using 80-90 % of the batt in 9 hours. uninstalled s2u2, now using about 45% in 9-10 hours. Bummer, because I really liked ac's program. I think there must be some conflict with the att rom.

mthomas said:
I found s2u2 to be a massive batt drain on my fuze running current attsom. I was using 80-90 % of the batt in 9 hours. uninstalled s2u2, now using about 45% in 9-10 hours. Bummer, because I really liked ac's program. I think there must be some conflict with the att rom.
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I had the same issue. With the new version and WM6.5, I see no difference with using it....it is like it isn't there!

Loner2DEnd said:
wat rom are you using? i usually do hours of nonstop and my phone will just die out..
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My 4-5 days out of my Touch pro. Granted I don't use at all for voice, but browse the web over wifi (~1hr daily), watch movies and play games. Wifi is on most of the time and I get a lot of emails over the day.
One of the worst battery hogs I had was Fring. The reason was it stopped the phone from entering sleep and kept the data connection open at all times, but still would just shorten the bat life to 2 days.
Mind you, that's on a custom rom (Energy Rom).

Mugen 1800mAh Battery Review

So, finally my order just arrived ... And its on the first charge right now and immediately I can feel that the heat is only 50% as compared to the stock battery. Also, 80-100% charging seems to be taking long (maybe trickle charge) ..
Will update this post after fully charged and first discharge till 50% ... should give an early estimate since I know my stock one's capacity .. and this is normal discharge, not killing it by running everything everywhere!
My Setup - Stock 2.3.4 ROM (Only Clockwork & Rooted without any special tweaks)
UPDATE 1 - First Full Charge and Discharge to 50%
It reached around 52% in 19+ Hours with following setup :
* Push Exchange for Gmail
* Facebook 1 Hr Pull
* LinkedIn 1 Hr Pull
* 3 Calls ~ 20 mins total
* Music listening around 20 mins in transit
* I have network on WCDMA Only with 3G/H always On (No WiFi use)
Image below was taken before it reached 50%
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Result : The same use I do daily on the official batt and I would be around 45% ... so I am happy at the moment.
Now going for Round 2 of Discharge...will update later

Looking forward to hearing your opinion.

What did you pay for this battery?

1st post updated !

Thanks for the sharing with us. Could you share another screenshot after you touch the chart to show us details like how much you used your phone?

How much did you buy?

Hi,
Another feedback about this battery
Need more advice about this to make a choice between Mugen and Anker battery for the Sensation.
Thanks

2 thumbs up for this battery! Ive had mugen 2600mah and the official htc 2300 extended battery for my hd2. Mugen does make top notch batteries. I went with the 1800mah this time because i didnt want to replace the case due to the internal antenna built within the stock cover.
Getting to the point now. I use coredroid 2.4 with bricked kernal 0.91.
I use my phone for tethering wirelessly to my laptop. I usually always tether at work for about almost 7 hours. When i ran my phone using the stock battery at full charge, i would be at 14-18% at the endof my shift. Since using the mugen 1800 i noticed my phone lasts much longer significantly. When i tether using the mugen im left at 37-40% by end of shift. This is really good imo because tethering drains the battery down pretty quick since it uses excessive amounts of data.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the feedback
Not bad at all especially with intensive use as tethering.
And is the temperature indication is working properly?
And if there are other feedback please
Thanks!

Ive got a Mugen 1800mah battery as well as the dock.
I have to say its a placebo mate, its not a better battery in fact when tested at fully charged its 1410mah not 1800mah.

Hi,
Ouch!It's not good
I don't understand that some users find a real difference.
Even considering that we have not the same utilistation every day, the same parameters and others ...
In this case use for the same reason as stated lolpos, the gain is significant?
Hard to decide on a particular battery...
I think the difference price between Anker and Mugen help me to make my choice...And the number of positive feedback for Anker...
Another feedback for Mugen are always welcome
Thanks for the reply.

these are my settings i use for my phone.
-core droid 2.4
-bricked kernal 0.91
-underclocked with setcpu at 10800/192 with set on boot and i use performance setting (i underclocked mines but i dont notice any type of lag or anything slowed down)
i dont care about quadrant because i dont really play games on my phone. i mainly use it for tethering at work, and other then that i do moderate to heavy usage with
-screen off setcpu settings at 192/192 with 100% priority on performance setting
i dont use ondemand settings but i was gonna try and test SMARTASS(Interactive) setting and see how it is
and with my battery when i first got it i discharged it to dead, then left my phone off and fully charged it to 100%. before i actually turned on my phone again and started using it, i cleared BATTERY STATS thru CWM. Ive only let the battery fully discharged once which was when i first got it, but i normally start to charge it again when i to to 5-10%. This is about a week and a half now since ive been using my MUGEN battery. AT FIRST i only noticed a SLIGHT difference but on the 3rd day is when i began to see real progress in work
like i said again, it would also help if people would also post up on what roms/builds they do use to include other things such as radios, kernals, and other misc settings, and it would help if people specify if they OC or UV it, or if they just DONT use a OC/UV tool such as setcpu etc
hope this info helps

Ive tested stock battery on Multimeter and it is around 1550mah when fully charged on the mugen dock. the 1800mah mugen battery is 1410mah when fully charged.

v-b-n said:
So, finally my order just arrived ...
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I've been running the mugen battery for months now. Great purchase.

Mugen battery dying?

hey guys i bought a 3600Mah mugen battery and its seem like its dying faster, anyone feels the same?
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kernel 2.6.35.14
rom xboarderMOD V3.0.1
android version 2.3.5
brightness: 60-70%
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i'm sitting on 30% right now
i dont think i can get a full day like most of everyone, i already delete the battery stat and its still not working

How long have you had it? New batteries should cycle afew times though before the gauge can be trusted.
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I get two days out of regular use from my mugen 3600. I've had it for about 5 months now. Still runs strong.
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I get 2 days of regular use and over 3 days with little usage on my 1800mAh battery, you should get LOADS more on yours, 4 days at a minimum.
Charge up to 100%, let it rest on charger for 2 more hours.
Go to recovery and wipe battery stats.
Use the device as normal but do not charge until it dies at 0%.
Charge to 100% and again let it rest a bit, then resume your normal usage.
Every once in a while or after flashing a new ROM, let it discharge to 0 to get accurate readings.
And also be aware that google GPS-based apps have problems on CM7 based ROMs and the GPS sometimes stays awake or some such bug. It doesn't show on battery usage graph but every time you use google maps, google goggles or similar I recommend rebooting because there's a chance it's slowly draining your battery in the background.

nik3r said:
I get 2 days of regular use and over 3 days with little usage on my 1800mAh battery, you should get LOADS more on yours, 4 days at a minimum.
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My normla usage is more then your normal usage, end of story.
Play n64oid daily on your phone and see how much faster it dies.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

G1_enthusiast said:
hey guys i bought a 3600Mah mugen battery and its seem like its dying faster, anyone feels the same?
little info:
kernel 2.6.35.14
rom xboarderMOD V3.0.1
android version 2.3.5
brightness: 60-70%
i'm sitting on 30% right now
i dont think i can get a full day like most of everyone, i already delete the battery stat and its still not working
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Just a thought: Do you really use google maps so much that it can account for 22% of energy consumption on a 3.6k mah battery? That seems kind of excessive to me.
I mention this since I used to have problems with google maps starting on its own in the background and it really drained the battery like crazy. (oddly enough it would only start whenever i opened the stock mail client.)

The latest google maps does not run in the back ground even after exiting like previous versions of maps (you would have to either reboot the phone or use a 3rd party app to manually kill everything related to maps).
So my recommendation is to do what the above said with the calibration and then make sure you are on the latest maps.

nik3r said:
Charge up to 100%, let it rest on charger for 2 more hours.
Go to recovery and wipe battery stats.
Use the device as normal but do not charge until it dies at 0%.
Charge to 100% and again let it rest a bit, then resume your normal usage.
Every once in a while or after flashing a new ROM, let it discharge to 0 to get accurate readings.
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A lot of people give the advice to drain the battery until it dies. Very poor advice, and you can kill the battery that way. Just drain to 20% or so. No need to go any lower, its not going to make the battery meter any more accurate.

Mog said:
My normla usage is more then your normal usage, end of story.
Play n64oid daily on your phone and see how much faster it dies.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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I do actually and I get probably 10 hours extremely heavy usage! Light usage to no usage I get 24 hours plus on 1900 mah chichitech. I've gone 4 hours before my phone ticked from 100 percent to 99 lol.

[Q] Question about my battery consumption.

Hello there everyone.
I used to have a blackberry phone in the past and my battery life sucked.
I've been out of work recently and I noticed that I charge my phone quite often daily. I've had this phone for about 4 months now. In the past, since I'm either in the office or trying to catch some sleep, I get by with one charge a day. But now I can barely last 5 hours with a charge. Granted that I seem to be holding my phone always and always doing something with it every time that I'm awake.
Let's just segue a bit with my Blackberry experience since this might be affecting my mentality a bit.
I used to have a bb 9630 and that phone literally won't last through a work day without me plunging it in my office computer mid work day.
So now we come back to my Xperia Pro.
This is a screen shot that I took just now.
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I have been on YouTube for at least 3 hours straight before I took this.
Is this normal consumption? I mean, does watching videos on YouTube for 3 hours drains your battery that drastically?
I really have a bad sense of estimating things so I really can't tell if that's normal or not.
Although when I unplugged my phone and didn't use it for 55 minutes, my battery still went down like 3-4 percent.
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Many times the manufacturer will provide a crappy battery because they are cheap. One easy fix to a battery drain issue is upgrade the battery. MAh's (milliamp hours) are what you look for with a battery upgrade. Most batteries will specify the mAh value (common figures are 1200mAh, 1350mAh, 1500mAh etc) but basically the higher the mAh value, the longer the battery should last between charges.
Online auction sites and stores are an easy way to obtain one. I upgraded this phone battery from the stock battery, got one with 350 more mAh and the device will now last 2-3 hours longer with the same software.
Press Thanks if this helped!
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guitarman2010 said:
Many times the manufacturer will provide a crappy battery because they are cheap. One easy fix to a battery drain issue is upgrade the battery. MAh's (milliamp hours) are what you look for with a battery upgrade. Most batteries will specify the mAh value (common figures are 1200mAh, 1350mAh, 1500mAh etc) but basically the higher the mAh value, the longer the battery should last between charges.
Online auction sites and stores are an easy way to obtain one. I upgraded this phone battery from the stock battery, got one with 350 more mAh and the device will now last 2-3 hours longer with the same software.
Press Thanks if this helped!
Sent from my rooted SCH-R880 POS
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I'm kinda a bit hesitant with using a non-manufacturer battery. And it is really hard to get a hold of in our country. Most of those auction sites won't ship internally.
I guess what I just want to know is if my usage reflects my battery consumption without any anomaly.
And another question, is that media server thing caused by youtube or was it because I have a live wallpaper activated?
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Well the live wallpaper doesn't help battery life either, but you probably have your screen too bright, and watching youtube videos means you probably have the screen on 100% of the time, takes a crapload of power as well. I would definitely find out what the media server is though.

Hello,
when youre watching Youtube Videos on your Smartphone,
your battery drains very fast.

3-4 hours of screen on time is normal for the Samsung Galaxy S3 - obviously, a different device - but it doesn't exactly sound like a shocking figure to me that you're at 44% after 3 hours of YouTube. The fact that you have so much battery left AFTER watching video for 3 hours straight is very good and wouldn't call that drastic at all. I would call that good battery life.
3-4% an hour when not in use is probably due to having lots of apps constantly waking the device or having them use GPS, et cetera. You can use something like BetterBatteryStats to determine what's doing it if you're not sure.

Thanks for all the reply. I'll follow your advice and see what happens.
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[Q] Help with identifying Nexus S i9020a Battery Drain

Running Stock ICS 4.1.2 on Nexus S i9020A on AT&T US.
The battery was fine till about a few months back, but of late, it is draining @ around 8-10% per hour on standby!. I originally thought JB was causing the drain, and switched to ICS, and finally to GB. But the drain is consistent across all three.
There is also accelerated battery drain if my phone is completely switched off. If I leave the battery in the phone after powering off, the battery goes from 100 - 0 in less than 4 hours. Thinking the battery might have gone bad, I bought another oem battery, but that is exhibiting the same behavior.
This leads me to think there might be a hardware issue with my phone. I am tired of keeping the phone plugged in at all times, and am ready to throw this out the window and get another phone. As a last ditch effort, I wanted to post this here to see if I can get any kind of feedback/confirmation on this before I buy another phone. Other users are reporting 1-2% battery drain on standby, so 8-10% drain is unacceptable by any standard.
I have attached some screenshots from today when the battery was at 20% after about 9 hours. For this test, I did the following last night:
1. uninstalled all apps I downloaded
2. turned off WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, sync, auto brightness ( set to the minimum brightness)
I charged the phone fully, and then left it on standby, with minimal usage - I think I made a 2 minute call, checked my email once, and read some rss feeds for about 5 minutes in the 9 hours I tested it.
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Bettery Battery Stats Logcat and dump:
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View attachment logcat-2013-03-25_204338703.txt
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

I know I'm not giving any advice here but I just wanted to let you know I'm in the same boat. No matter what ROM GB/ICS/JB I lose too much battery per hour with the phone just on standby. There's no explanation for %10 battery drain per hour with pretty much everything off (wifi, data, gps, nfc, background data, etc)
I have tried everything and now I must admit I've given up. I'm just going to ride out CM 10.1 until I can decide on a new phone, most likely the Nexus 4 or HTC One.

abccg said:
I know I'm not giving any advice here but I just wanted to let you know I'm in the same boat. No matter what ROM GB/ICS/JB I lose too much battery per hour with the phone just on standby. There's no explanation for %10 battery drain per hour with pretty much everything off (wifi, data, gps, nfc, background data, etc)
I have tried everything and now I must admit I've given up. I'm just going to ride out CM 10.1 until I can decide on a new phone, most likely the Nexus 4 or HTC One.
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Bro, just replace the battery, buy a new one!

Doesn't seem like a software issue to me, sadly.

That confirms my suspicion. I guess it is time to start looking for a new phone. Thanks!
polobunny said:
Doesn't seem like a software issue to me, sadly.
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kandroid said:
That confirms my suspicion. I guess it is time to start looking for a new phone. Thanks!
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Yeah, your phone doesn't seem to be doing much while asleep. 20 minutes screen on, 35 minutes active, yet battery down to 21%. My battery would be at 90% with that sort of usage. Since you changed the battery (I'll assume it's a decent quality battery, although a cheap battery could be in cause), there's not much left.

Have you tried switching 3G off? 3G seems to SUCK the life out of these Nexus S batteries like no tomorrow.
But I suspect it's a hardware issue with the Nexus S phones. I have WiFi, Bluetooth, 3G and auto-sync all shut off and a static wallpaper and I will lose 20% of my battery in 7-8 hours.

Battery is kernel related. Try changing your I/o scheduler to row and governor to smartassv2. If you don't have those options then look for a kernel that does...air kernel and matrix should suffice.

NO SOLUTION so far
A friend was having the same issue, gave him the battery of my nexus s ... it lasted him for 7-8hrs max whereas it gives me 1 day~ on 2G and normal use without gaimng . So my guess like his mobile your mobile may have some component which is short and draining out the battery . I have been trying to look around for answer but so far no luck. So better check it with another batteryif you can before purchasing a new one.

Vampire test
If anyone is investigating why their Nexus S suddenly starts draining the battery in a matter of hours, BEFORE spending a ton of time (like I did) trying to diagnose what software problem you might have, do the vampire test, as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42586314
I wasted days before coming across this test on this forum, and it proved it had to be a hardware fault.
I have two healthy batteries, both hold a charge for days (probably weeks) when not inserted in the phone, but pop one in the phone, leave it powered off, and within 6 hrs it's dead. So frustrating, and sad to see this phone go.