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Battery Life: Doubling it.

Okay so i'm a new user with a HTC Fuze and i haven't customized it yet, just added a few tweaks. The first thing I noticed about this phone is that it's battery life is too short. I have "locked" data with AT&T to not get extra charges so i'm not connecting to Media Net and it still consumes a lot of battery.
I went out of my house at 2:30pm with 100% and kept texting people in a 1 hour bus trip (round trip) so 2 hours in total using the device and when I got home the battery was half-way gone.
I bet i could spend the battery of this phone in less than 20 minutes -> activate flash led + music in the background + wifi + bluetooth + 3g + texting at the same time / browsing internet.
Well after looking for tweaks and whatnot this is deff the best solution (however, a little expensive) for this phone:
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It's a 3000mAh battery. (Regular HTC brings a 1340mAh stock)
It costs 89.99$ (free shipping)
So for anyone interested in increasing their battery by the double, and even a bit more than the stock phone that's your best solution. If you combine this with a few tweaks your phone will be able to work moderate-high use for more than 15 hours.
PS. Another solution that i found is a portable charger (AA battery size) that you can connect to your device anywhere at anytime. You can perform almost 2 FULL charges with only 1 battery.

I have no problem getting at least two or three days out of a single charge. Stock ROM with the TF3D garbage scrubbed and replaced with SPB. Haven't disabled the 3G either, and it downloads my email every 5 minutes. I'm not otherwise a heavy internet user, though it sounds like I use it more than you. I maybe talk on it for 20 or 30 minutes a day.

I understand 100% what you mean. I do a fair amount of texting, but usually a full day, and by the end of the day (if the battery lasts that long), my battery is completely gone. Texting really does take up a lot of battery from the phone, and there isn't any way around it. Although some roms take up more battery than others (energy), and some take less (ROMeOS), your still gonna suck a lot of your battery by texting. I thought about that battery as well a while back, but after thinking about it, I decided that I really don't want to make my tp any thicker than it already is.

Install Advanced Config and take a look at the power options.. Advanced Config is a must have for Windows Mobile Phones.

After one hour of nonstop texting I have about 90% battery left. I would suggest to go with a different ROM.

jdwrrzmm said:
After one hour of nonstop texting I have about 90% battery left. I would suggest to go with a different ROM.
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wat rom are you using? i usually do hours of nonstop and my phone will just die out..

Loner2DEnd said:
wat rom are you using? i usually do hours of nonstop and my phone will just die out..
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you might have a data connection on continously... or something(wifi)...

djcaston said:
I understand 100% what you mean. I do a fair amount of texting, but usually a full day, and by the end of the day (if the battery lasts that long), my battery is completely gone. Texting really does take up a lot of battery from the phone, and there isn't any way around it. Although some roms take up more battery than others (energy), and some take less (ROMeOS), your still gonna suck a lot of your battery by texting. I thought about that battery as well a while back, but after thinking about it, I decided that I really don't want to make my tp any thicker than it already is.
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No, the battery is the same shape as the default one.
It just has more capacity, your phone will look the same.

Nope, not true, the Mugen Super Extended battery comes with a custom replacement back door !
See : http://cgi.ebay.com/MUGEN-SUPER-EXT...temQQimsxZ20081226?IMSfp=TL081226112001r31958
( just as reference and for pics )
Cheers,
JCE

thazeid said:
No, the battery is the same shape as the default one.
It just has more capacity, your phone will look the same.
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i don't think LiOn chemistry has improved so much over a year to pack three times the amperage on the same size...
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-EXTENDED-BA...trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:2128|293:1|294:50
they give you a new cover... it IS thicker
i myself am planning to see how much battery i need, and possibly upgrade to a 2200mAh battery (thicker too)

Oh, i didnt see that...
HTC Fuze is too thick to be even thicker...

thazeid said:
Oh, i didnt see that...
HTC Fuze is too thick to be even thicker...
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i hang my Fuze off my belt, so i think a little more thickness is worth it if i'm going far away from my charger...

might as well call it HTC Brick after you put that cover on it

I found s2u2 to be a massive batt drain on my fuze running current attsom. I was using 80-90 % of the batt in 9 hours. uninstalled s2u2, now using about 45% in 9-10 hours. Bummer, because I really liked ac's program. I think there must be some conflict with the att rom.

mthomas said:
I found s2u2 to be a massive batt drain on my fuze running current attsom. I was using 80-90 % of the batt in 9 hours. uninstalled s2u2, now using about 45% in 9-10 hours. Bummer, because I really liked ac's program. I think there must be some conflict with the att rom.
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I had the same issue. With the new version and WM6.5, I see no difference with using it....it is like it isn't there!

Loner2DEnd said:
wat rom are you using? i usually do hours of nonstop and my phone will just die out..
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My 4-5 days out of my Touch pro. Granted I don't use at all for voice, but browse the web over wifi (~1hr daily), watch movies and play games. Wifi is on most of the time and I get a lot of emails over the day.
One of the worst battery hogs I had was Fring. The reason was it stopped the phone from entering sleep and kept the data connection open at all times, but still would just shorten the bat life to 2 days.
Mind you, that's on a custom rom (Energy Rom).

Huge battery life fix.

I am using the stock radio. This has been confirmed by others as working also.
Seems as if there is some sort of bug with with Cell standby that causes the phone to lose signal which in turns just kills the battery. To verify that your set has the problem, check the Cell standby info in the Battery Use info. If the Time without a signal is higher than 0% (50% seems to be the norm) than you have a problem.
One solution, at the moment, is to follow these steps:
1. Plug in phone charger or into USB.
2. Put phone in Airplane mode
3. Put phone to sleep for a minute
4. Turn off airplane mode
5. Unplug phone
My Time without a signal is at 0% for over 16 hours now. The battery life is much better and the phone didn't die on me last night while i was sleeping.

I am using the new Radio and mine was @ 58%. I will report back with any change that this makes.

Also testing. Mine was at 32%.

Didn't work for me
I am running the stock radio and after following the instructions cell standby was at 0%. 5 minutes later, I am back up to 46% so I guess it didn't work
Tried it twice with the same result.

Ok, followed your steps. Using the new radio, after 2 min with the phone in standby, I checked again. Shows it sitting at 40%. So I dont know.....

same here...it's back up to 48%

I tried this and after 10 minutes of standby mine has dropped from 56%% down to 30%. What exactly does this fix do and does it have to be done after every reboot?

Well i tried it and thus far it's had no effect my cell standby is back up to 40% was at 50% it's been climbing steadily.
Perhaps someone can correct me but it was my impression that "Cell Standby" was NOT time without a signal but rather cell time spent doing nothing but communicating with the towers. Since the phone is always communicating with the towers then it's going to show a high percentage of battery usage.
I imagine the reason you are seeing less % with Cell Standby is not because your saving battery but rather other applications (I don't think they all show) are using more battery time.
Anyway I don't know this for fact, but it makes a sense to me. Perhaps someone else can comment on this.

You need to press on Cell Standby to see Time without a signal , this is what kills the battery.

tamburylar said:
Well i tried it and thus far it's had no effect my cell standby is back up to 40% was at 50% it's been climbing steadily.
Perhaps someone can correct me but it was my impression that "Cell Standby" was NOT time without a signal but rather cell time spent doing nothing but communicating with the towers. Since the phone is always communicating with the towers then it's going to show a high percentage of battery usage.
I imagine the reason you are seeing less % with Cell Standby is not because your saving battery but rather other applications (I don't think they all show) are using more battery time.
Anyway I don't know this for fact, but it makes a sense to me. Perhaps someone else can comment on this.
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Were not talking about cell standby, were talking about time without signal, which is a huge battery drain, and is under the cell standby category.

Myth busted!!!

abcdfv said:
Were not talking about cell standby, were talking about time without signal, which is a huge battery drain, and is under the cell standby category.
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Thanks for the correction, however I did go under Cell Standby and I do not see the settings you are referring to. Perhaps there is a ROM difference (damagecontrol 1.0) or maybe I don't have any time without signal.
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I did it one more time and it worked this time.
I'll keep my eyes on it until tomorrow and see if there is a difference.
OP, do you have to do this after every reboot?

tamburylar said:
Thanks for the correction, however I did go under Cell Standby and I do not see the settings you are referring to. Perhaps there is a ROM difference (damagecontrol 1.0) or maybe I don't have any time without signal.
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Mine also looks like that without showing Time without a signal for a while, at some point it will start showing 0% otherwise is will show like 50%.

abcdfv said:
Were not talking about cell standby, were talking about time without signal, which is a huge battery drain, and is under the cell standby category.
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That's a pretty big assumption. One that's unsupported IMO.
My "time without a signal" has been exactly 50% since I installed DamageControl. My battery life is no worse than it was with any 1.5 ROM. I don't think this is an issue.

jonnythan said:
That's a pretty big assumption. One that's unsupported IMO.
My "time without a signal" has been exactly 50% since I installed DamageControl. My battery life is no worse than it was with any 1.5 ROM. I don't think this is an issue.
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I can tell you that my battery life for 18 hours yesterday was better then it has been. I also know that if you have no signal the battery drains like a mother. I don't know if all phones have this problem but I have a phone "without Google" on it.

ill give it a shot i was at 50% so cant hurt

I have noticed that eventhough my cell standby time has decreased the time without a signal is still at 50%.

HAHA Well without any fix at all Cell StandBy = 5% - Pretty good if you ask me.
BUT
Street View is at 89%- ROFL I haven't used Maps.Nav in 2 days!

crunchybutternut said:
I am using the new Radio and mine was @ 58%. I will report back with any change that this makes.
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My Time Without Signal was at 58% before doing this (the Cell Standby was somewhere around 60%).
After doing this 1.5 hours ago my phone does not display a Time Without Signal.

[Q] CM7 Alpha 6 on Sensation, poor battery life

Hi there!
so i decided to install CM7 alpha 6 on my sensation and ive been trying it it for 2-3 days (had alpha 5 before) and well the first day i recalibrated the battery after charging it to 100% and ... it went REALLY well!
i even Overclocked the phone with SOME kernel i found on the thread (sorry im not great with kernels or understanding them, i just know i use them to overclock but i made sure to know it was intended for CM7 use) and everything was still fine and dandy.
However i installed the radio that was suggested with the CM7 installing tutorial, not knowing what it did but i did it for compability issues i guess?, and the battery started shooting dead way too fast! like 1% every 5 mins or so. Now i read that the radio is pretty important for battery consumption so maybe by installing the new one i ****ed it up.
1) is there any way to revert back to my original radio? I live in Puerto Rico and 90% of the time at home i get EDGE because i dont get 3g here so i use Wi-FI calling and i do get 4g alot and good signal strength while not at home... the battery status displays my strength as yellow-green, 10% of the time its perfectly green. So maybe the radio i installed was an issue?
2) maybe its because CM7 still in Alpha stages and the battery isnt that great, or how is the battery for you guys? Did you mess with the radio?
3) Maybe its my battery i have an Anker1900mAh and it was doing just fine with ANDROID REVOLUTION getting 13 Hours of Medium - High usage during the day and i did do the 5 100-0% cycles throughout the first days... although i did clear the battery stats alot between the rom switching, maybe its ****ed with it?
i really like CM7 and i wanna keep giving it a try but if i dont get some options here i guess ill have to revert it back.
Sidenote: I also installed CM7 on my mothers MOTO CLIQXT and its been 2 days and she noticed that the battery is draining way fast as well. Didnt upgrade her radio though.
EDIT: i apologize for my terrible spelling and grammar

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Also since I've been messing around with the battery stats and calibration this keeps happening and it won't show me the battery information. Any idea on how to fix this?

I am getting horrible battery life as well. I flashed their suggested radio. Gonna try flashing another radio and see if it helps.

i got a very bad battery life since i installed mike1968 3.6.0XE, a half day with the battery and then i have to charge it again. and i dont have wifi on or playing games, auto sync is also off. i like the rom but the battery life really sucks. i ordered a new battery and hopefully it will be better, it is the battery used for the Evo 3d.

Each time you change a ROM, you need to calibrate it by letting it charge to some 4.12v or so, and then let it discharge until the phone turns off. Try to turn the phone back on. If you can, wait for the battery to drain far enough such that the phone will NOT restart. Now charge the battery until it is 4.12v (not JUST 100% )
Do this a few times and youll notice better life. Also, WIFI DOESNT use battery that much when compared to data and phone calls. Use wifi whenever possible AND turn off anything that uses background data. Notifications and automatic reports/data collection all use data/wifi and will use your battery even when the phone is idle.
Check your standby current. It ought to be in the 10-50mA/Hr range. If its not, then you have rogue apps that ARE using battery.
Matt

evacorp said:
i got a very bad battery life since i installed mike1968 3.6.0XE, a half day with the battery and then i have to charge it again. and i dont have wifi on or playing games, auto sync is also off. i like the rom but the battery life really sucks. i ordered a new battery and hopefully it will be better, it is the battery used for the Evo 3d.
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Do you or anyone know what is the original Radio that TMO uses for the sensation (USA)?

Battery Issue

OK people i know the Inspire has bad battery life, but this is ridiculous
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Running LeDroid HD 4.0
With
Radio w/RCDATA: 12.59.60.26P_26.11.04.21_M
MD5 Sum: 57cccef401c372c6d421c986ee42e0fe
RIL: HTC-RIL 2.2.160
MD5 Sum: 864d02352ce1100968cb39fe6ce65160
I think this is crazy
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What do you guys think

I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).

Gene Poole said:
I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).
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I think what he's trying to point out is at 4 and a half minutes he's still at 100%, at 9 minutes he's down to 99%, at 13 minutes he's down to 98%, at 35 minutes he's down to 95% - and I think he's saying he expects his battery to be a lot better than this.
If you're checking your battery drain that often, I expect your screen was on a good percentage of that time, and yes, Display will use a good % of your battery. Look at your Battery Use, what's eating the most battery?

Oh, I wasn't looking at the battery icon. And now the other image shows up. I thought maybe that last one showed a huge drop. That would have indicated a bad battery.
homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.

My problem is this, i leave my phone charge over night and when i get up in the morning i disconnect my charger.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger no more then 1 to 2 minutes i already lost 1% within 1 to 2 minutes of disconnecting the charger yes i understand if i keep checking it it will lose battery.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger i light up a cigarette and then go to my text messages, like i said 1 minute still smoking my cigarette it is already at 99% before i even open my text messages
this battery sucks big time, i had a MT4G and i have way better battery then this
Speaking of MT4G i am going to put it up for sale in the Sales section.
have a bunch of extras for it

Gene Poole said:
homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.
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You might try battery monitor widget pro from the market. It will give you a nice graph of battery usage over time.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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biglittlegato said:
You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side
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This is true too. Play around with different radio/ril combinations, letting them settle in for a day or two before testing and see if you get any better results

Well moved from LeDroid to Virtuous Unity and battery looks a whole lot better and so does my wifi signal.
I have installed the Battery Monitor Widget so we will see what kind of results i get with it.
PS i am also using a Slim Extended Battery from Anker 1600mAh
had one with my MT4G with 1700mAh and it ran great

Your screen takes a lot out of the battery, end of story, not much you can do. I agree the battery life you originally posted was nutty. I had the same thing when I first starting using Coredroid. These links helped me knock out some of the other high battery drain issues and since haven't had too many problems..I do these anytime I flash a new rom and battery life has not been an issue. Hope everything on the new rom works out man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808932
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080

I am still scratching my head. What is so wrong with the pics above? I don't dee it. Everything looks normal. Last pic shows 95% and awake time of 21:43. Do the math and that is over 400 minutes of wake time on a battery charge. Not to mention that you were doing something on your phone as you did switch wifi on for the last 20 minutes between pics.
You can't measure your gas mileage in a car by only driving 30 miles nor can you on your phone in only 30 minutes on a battery that probably isn't perfectly calibrated for the phone anyways.

[Q] Need some help with battery

Hi all,
I am reading forum for a while.
I have purchased sensation 2 weeks ago (used one) and its full stock.
In my best i can get 12h from battery. 3-6 calls cca 5min, maybe 5min of surfing on wifi, 3g off, screen on 10%,...
And i turned off all sync and so (like i sad i read forum)
Next is Anker battery.
what do you recommend next?
and my friend and also have stock sensation and get day and half in light use...
Tnx to all
sorry for my eng, not using often

I bought an Anker battery set from Amazon for around £20 GBP it came with 2 Anker 1900mAH batteries and a charger so you can have the spare charging while not in use.
Since using the Anker batteries I have noticed a big improvement, I am able to have the screen at a usuable brightness and can happy use it for a full day without having to worry about pluggin my phone in ever chance I can.

Keza303 said:
Hi all,
I am reading forum for a while.
I have purchased sensation 2 weeks ago (used one) and its full stock.
In my best i can get 12h from battery. 3-6 calls cca 5min, maybe 5min of surfing on wifi, 3g off, screen on 10%,...
And i turned off all sync and so (like i sad i read forum)
Next is Anker battery.
what do you recommend next?
and my friend and also have stock sensation and get day and half in light use...
Tnx to all
sorry for my eng, not using often
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DEFINITELY Anker ! It's AWESOME.

With battery life that poor I'd say something is draining it far more than it should. When I first got my Sensation the sync icon was constantly on and the battery would just plummet, turned out that HTC Watch was constantly syncing and I had to remove the Watch account.
Go to Settings -> About phone -> Battery -> Battery Use and tap on the graph, if the Awake bar is blue consistently more than the Screen bar then you have a rogue app draining the battery.

so i order anker battery yesterday. ( i hope it will arrive soon)
today i was talking with guy in phone shop and in his opinion battery should last 2 days at least (none to light use)
and that my problem could be in software
any suggestion?

My Sensation XE has also experienced rapid battery loss since yesterday, such that from charging it maybe once day, I'm now needing to charge it twice or more per day. I purchased an App yesterday, which I discovered was then running constantly, so I unisnatlled that today. However, I was still experiencing fairly rapid battery loss, so I had a look for more running Apps which were using fairly large percentage of power, and uninstalled those which I decided I didn't need - but it seems that I may still have a rogue power-consuming App.
Any ideas on identifying it?
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Keza303 said:
so i order anker battery yesterday. ( i hope it will arrive soon)
today i was talking with guy in phone shop and in his opinion battery should last 2 days at least (none to light use)
and that my problem could be in software
any suggestion?
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Use a custom ROM.
Batterly life was pretty poor for myself on the stock ROM as well, but after rooting and using custom made ones, it's a hell of a lot better.
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That's Android 4.0.1, overclocked Kernel...

To install this anker battery do I need any special cover for it or does it use the same stock cover?

It works with the stock cover. Same dimensions as the normal battery.

i was testing last night to what is draining my battery and
when i woke up first i had to insert card pin (???) and then showed 45% left after 10h being on and half of that time without signal because of sim card.
sim car is brand new...?!

I'm not sure if this is just my personal experiences, but I can sometimes solve fast draining battery cases by just rebooting the phone. I suspect that in those cases it's some (rogue?) app that's running in the background or was improperly terminated that's causing the problem.
Also I've read that WiFi uses more power on standby than 2/3g, thus if you don't plan on using WiFi at any time it would be a good idea to shut it off until you do. Also phones that are constantly searching for cell signals drain batteries significantly, thus if you're in a place with crappy reception, your battery will in turn suffer as well.
just my noob .02

little update
my anker battery has arrived few days ago and its miles better than the stock one
but i left last night phone on and this morning its off and i couldnt start
i put it on charger and nothing
then i used voltmeter and its 0,00
brand new anker battery... i am so fu**** mad because last time i was looking it was 43% battery left....