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XDA is for development of new wimo/android based phones. I have been in my tilt forum for 2 years and the culture there(and a few others) has become about saving an old peice of hardware with android or heavily tweaked wimo. I thought this mentality could be carried to the iphone for users who want to save a peice of crap by turning it into android. I see now that most users here are able to afford new phones every year or sooner and do not have the "save my device" mentality, which i understand.
what i dont understand is why this mentality is carrying over to hate towards a forum for a specific phone that already has some development on converting it to the android that is so beloved here.
I think pre conceived notions that there are not intelligent people who end up with an iphone and can port it into something useful, mixed with a fear of a thread running away into icrap, make this idea impossible.
either way it is imposable so this discussion should be closed
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why cant we abuse the hardware? i hate iOS i like the hardware over the tilt
there is already good development on android for the hardware.
like i said before a jailbreak forum would be stupid, but if it is moderated to android development...
legal issues?
What a great idea. It sure would help clean up the forums. I see 3-8 posts a week complaining about the iPhone I wish people would just give it a rest. The iPhone Did this the iPhone did that, guys just shut up you spend more time talking about the iPhone than you do about Android and Wm. If you want to talk about the iphone go to an iphone forum. For the record I am not an apple fan boy by far but I do not hate the iPhone. In fact I'm glad it was made. If it wasn't I wouldn't be holding my nexus one right now tryping all of this.
If you have an iphone forum, then you may as well introduce any other phone on the market...no thanks.
If it goes ahead, may I suggest the forum description contains "Please don't mock the aflicted"
MalekoUK said:
If you have an iphone forum, then you may as well introduce any other phone on the market...no thanks.
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I am really into android on my tilt. the same processes can be done on the iphone now...not every phone on the market.
What a great idea. It sure would help clean up the forums. I see 3-8 posts a week complaining about the iPhone I wish people would just give it a rest. The iPhone Did this the iPhone did that, guys just shut up you spend more time talking about the iPhone than you do about Android and Wm.
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I spend more time talking about android...i just have a new piece of hardware to put it on.
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WTF????
Are you crazy?
There are plenty of Icrap forums out there and they are very good i just don't feel the need to tarnish the reputation of XDA with an Icrap FORUM, it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it.
Joking aside the thing is every one has there opinion and they like the device they have and i respect that so asking the question is valid, But do you think if you went to a dedicated Ipone forum and asked for an Wm and android section what would the reply be
blindguyinanorgy said:
I spend more time talking about android...i just have a new piece of hardware to put it on.
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I'm not talking about you but other people that sit on here all day and make iPhone threads about how bad the phone is it.
drx64 said:
WTF????
Are you crazy?
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Agreed...
lufc said:
There are plenty of Icrap forums out there and they are very good i just don't feel the need to tarnish the reputation of XDA with an Icrap FORUM, it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it.
Joking aside the thing is every one has there opinion and they like the device they have and i respect that so asking the question is valid, But do you think if you went to a dedicated Ipone forum and asked for an Wm and android section what would the reply be
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...and agreed
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Gauging my eyes out!!
The moment I see an IPhone Forum or dedicated thread I'll know that time has come.....
if your so desprate make your own forum and icrap lovers here can move over to that forum.
I WILL NOT BE VISITING
ANDROID AND WINMO DEVICES RULE!!!!!
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Just in case any of our beloved members want to go soft on us then this is a very good place to start
http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com/
OR just go here
http://www.appleiphoneforum.co.uk/
or here
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=201
or here
http://planet-iphones.com/
or here
http://www.iphoneowners.com/
or here
Well i think you get the message if you haven't then goggle list about 20-30 of them
lufc said:
Just in case any of our beloved members want to go soft on us then this is a very good place to start
http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com/
OR just go here
http://www.appleiphoneforum.co.uk/
or here
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=201
or here
http://planet-iphones.com/
or here
http://www.iphoneowners.com/
or here
Well i think you get the message if you haven't then goggle list about 20-30 of them
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i have done google. all of these forums are pretty ****ty and focus on using iphone as an iphone.
There are plenty of Icrap forums out there and they are very good i just don't feel the need to tarnish the reputation of XDA with an Icrap FORUM, it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it.
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you all hear iphone and jump to some sort of terror conclusion
They'd had Froyo running on the iPhone 3G for a bit now.
gadgetsdna.com/how-to-install-android-2-2-froyo-on-iphone-3g/3501/
I guess it's pretty easy to port over on the iPhone, not my HD2 is a different story.
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I was HOPING that by creating a forum here dedicated to android on the iphone that we could help fellow xda users who are above the icrap. I hate iphone as a package but i got one for free and there seems to be a potential to turn a pos into a nice dev project.
forum title:
ANDROID(iphone)
or something to keep away stupid iphone users and let there be a place (in english) for the few
Relax!!
Sometimes we are like children... Geez guys, give 'em a break.
One more i....e thread and I will ............
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that was my intent the whole time. i dont think half the responders even read the post, just freaked out about iphone
They have their own forums, and since there's not that much activity, why spread it out making things harder to find?
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They have their own forums, and since there's not that much activity, why spread it out making things harder to find?
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the only ANDROID iphone forum i have found is in italian. the others are all the ones people are afraid of, icrap...so yes we dont need another icrap one, but android would be cool and fit *my* idea of this site
Hey, it may seem weird, but I was wondering if there was anyway to put windows phone 7 on the htc inspire. I wanted to get a windows 7 phone, but all the ones from AT&T suck, so I just chose this one. I like it, but it would be nice to see how this would work on it. Thanks!
How about you search first....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049522
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049522
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this answered absolutely nothing.
and i like how everyone talks about how stupid it is to want wp7 or other OS's on an android phone...or that we should just go buy a wp7 phone if we want that. Yet when people bring up the HD2, it is the coolest phone in the world because of its 'hackability' and the fact it can run most any OS, including wp7.
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How about you search first....
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I did search. the only ones that are there all turn into why one would do this, not how. I gave my"why" in the original post, so to not derail the thread.
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Thank you for the link, I appreciate it, but unfortunately it doesn't say how to do so.
I was browsing a bit more and I noticed that the HTC desire and inspire are basically the same,so i was wondering if maybe anyone has made it for the desire.
I said to search so you can see there's (currently) no way to do this. So instead of creating a new thread, you could've posted in one of the existing threads to ask your lovely question. If there was a way, don't you think the existing threads would include the "how to"?
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buddy17 said:
...i like how everyone talks about how stupid it is to want wp7 or other OS's on an android phone...or that we should just go buy a wp7 phone if we want that. Yet when people bring up the HD2, it is the coolest phone in the world because of its 'hackability' and the fact it can run most any OS, including wp7.
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I agree, I remember reading that post and thinking the same thing. Phones that have the ability to boot multiple operating systems are lauded for how awesome they are, yet until it is discovered how the nay sayers drag on about how stupid that is.
I remember having an iPhone, and when they were trying to get Android to boot on it there were these huge posts about how stupid that was and why would you ever want to boot crappy Android on the holy phone...then as soon as it was booting Android people were falling over themselves to dust off the old 3G and fire up Android, then run around showing everyone how cool it was that they could dual boot.
If someone gets WP7 to boot on the Inspire, I'd love to give it a whirl. Hell, I'd even boot WM6.5 with Sense if it was possible. It just great fun.
buddy17 said:
this answered absolutely nothing.
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Actually, it did.
itssimplyjeff said:
Thank you for the link, I appreciate it, but unfortunately it doesn't say how to do so.
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That's the point. It was to point out this exact question had been asked fairly recently and the consensus was you can't install WP7 yet. The HD2 and Inspire/Desire HD are fairly significantly different pieces of hardware, saying the HD2 can do something why can't the Inspire is comparing apples to oranges. Not to mention, there are several other threads regarding WP7 on the Desire HD and the answers are all pretty much "no" or "not yet".
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I never said it was stupid not to have it on the Inspire, I simply gave you the tools to come to your own conclusion that it's not currently possible.
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Actually, it did.
That's the point. It was to point out this exact question had been asked fairly recently and the consensus was you can't install WP7 yet. The HD2 and Inspire/Desire HD are fairly significantly different pieces of hardware, saying the HD2 can do something why can't the Inspire is comparing apples to oranges. Not to mention, there are several other threads regarding WP7 on the Desire HD and the answers are all pretty much "no" or "not yet".
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I never said it was stupid not to have it on the Inspire, I simply gave you the tools to come to your own conclusion that it's not currently possible.
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ohhh so since they are different hardware it won't work!! right
how about when capy got the sensation rom ported to the DHD, and everyone said it wouldn't work on the HD2??? Look at that, it is booted and at the same point as the DHD rom is.
Yup, the hardware is obviously completely different...they are completely different phones. That doesn't mean wp7 will never boot on a dhd. Just takes someone with the know-how to go through with the port. ATM, i don't know of anyone even trying, but i sure wish someone would!!
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ohhh so since they are different hardware it won't work!! right
how about when capy got the sensation rom ported to the DHD, and everyone said it wouldn't work on the HD2??? Look at that, it is booted and at the same point as the DHD rom is.
Yup, the hardware is obviously completely different...they are completely different phones. That doesn't mean wp7 will never boot on a dhd. Just takes someone with the know-how to go through with the port. ATM, i don't know of anyone even trying, but i sure wish someone would!!
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So you fail at reading comprehension and then try to mock me over it? Classy. Do you have other party tricks?
Damn yall got arrested by the search police lmfao!
Sent from my Inspire 4G.
dzelaya18 said:
I agree, I remember reading that post and thinking the same thing. Phones that have the ability to boot multiple operating systems are lauded for how awesome they are, yet until it is discovered how the nay sayers drag on about how stupid that is.
I remember having an iPhone, and when they were trying to get Android to boot on it there were these huge posts about how stupid that was and why would you ever want to boot crappy Android on the holy phone...then as soon as it was booting Android people were falling over themselves to dust off the old 3G and fire up Android, then run around showing everyone how cool it was that they could dual boot.
If someone gets WP7 to boot on the Inspire, I'd love to give it a whirl. Hell, I'd even boot WM6.5 with Sense if it was possible. It just great fun.
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Perfectly said sir... perfect.
djzikario said:
Damn yall got arrested by the search police lmfao!
Sent from my Inspire 4G.
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Arrested and raped. They're probably just mad because it was my first post here and they thought I was a typical annoying new user. But what they don't realize is that theres also another purpose of making the thread, more threads = more demand. Someone with the knowledge might see the demand in doing so and would therefore be more interested to do it. None of the threads were on the front of the page so I don't see why it's such a big deal.
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Arrested and raped. They're probably just mad because it was my first post here and they thought I was a typical annoying new user. But what they don't realize is that theres also another purpose of making the thread, more threads = more demand. Someone with the knowledge might see the demand in doing so and would therefore be more interested to do it. None of the threads were on the front of the page so I don't see why it's such a big deal.
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If you were to post in the existing threads, it will bring them to the front page.
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I said to search so you can see there's (currently) no way to do this. So instead of creating a new thread, you could've posted in one of the existing threads to ask your lovely question. If there was a way, don't you think the existing threads would include the "how to"?
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real nice attitude for a senior member...some of you need to check your attitudes at the door. All he did was ask a simple question. scoot over to the rules section and familiarize yourself with the rules. (pay close attention to the word respect) you are lacking it here. There are several people here on XDA with poor attitudes. If you don't have the patience to guide, and help others, then don't respond. Some people have a difficult time navigating the site. I've been seeing more and more of this type of treatment by senior members and it's ridiculous.
.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
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real nice attitude for a senior member...some of you need to check your attitudes at the door. All he did was ask a simple question. scoot over to the rules section and familiarize yourself with the rules. (pay close attention to the word respect) you are lacking it here. There are several people here on XDA with poor attitudes. If you don't have the patience to guide, and help others, then don't respond. Some people have a difficult time navigating the site. I've been seeing more and more of this type of treatment by senior members and it's ridiculous.
.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
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Wonderful that you took the time to write this novel.
Part of the rules is not to post multiple threads asking the same question, like the op did. He was given an answer in his 1st thread that asked the same question. So someone else needs to chill out. I always help other members when I can and others appreciate my help. I am not here to argue with anyone. Just pointed out in my other post that its been discussed and this was unnecessary. Have a nice day!
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Wonderful that you took the time to write this novel.
Part of the rules is not to post multiple threads asking the same question, like the op did. He was given an answer in his 1st thread that asked the same question. SO someone else needs to chill out. I always help other members when I can. I am not here to argue with anyone. Just pointed out in my other post that its been discussed and this was unnecessary. Have a nice day!
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Another example of a poor attitude.
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Another example of a poor attitude.
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Sorry if you are that sensitive. Seriously... Move on.
The only way you MIGHT see this happen is if wp7 was released on a device with the exact same hardware as an android device.
Since the important parts of wp7 are closed source it is unlikely anyone with the ability will dedicate themselves to such a task. Much less deal with the legal consequences if they did it.
So no it isn't going to happen.
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Sorry if you are that sensitive. Seriously... Move on.
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I've read several of your posts to other members, and you have this attitude with several members. Looks like somebody has anger issues...Doesn't take much to get you upset; and you call me sensitive? if you can't be helpful, without being obnoxious, don't reply. Be a part of the solution; not part of the problem.
Hello Android Developers | ROM Flashers | Hackers | Modifiers | "I want my phone to look cool" People
First of all, I'd like to point out a few interesting things about this device.
-This is an Android powered phone that is officially supported to Android 2.3.6 Gingerbread
-The is the Galaxy S 4G. It is part of the Original Galaxy S (1st Generation) series and was once offered by ]"THREE" carriers. Mainly T-Mobile, secondly Wind Mobile, and most infrequently, Telus. The unique think about this phone is it was the first 4G Galaxy S Phone on T-Mobile.
-The model numbers are SGH-T959V(For T-Mobile), SGH-T959W(For Wind Mobile), and SGH-T959P(For Telus).
-A vast majority of support on this forum goes to the SGH-T959V for T-Mobile as it is the most common. There are a few T959W users on this forum who also have a few important threads, as well as if you are a T959W user, it is smart to note that yes, you can generally flash T959V roms, yet, you should "NOT" flash T959V Bootloaders and other such partitions such as the Boot, SBL, and Param sections as this MAY result in a permanent brick.
-There are no current T959P specific posts, and it is unknown whether there are any Telus users here. It is currently unknown but probably consistent that these users may be able to flash T959V roms.
OST OR ASK QUESTION
NOW THE MAIN POINT
First, If you haven't read the above section. GO BACK AND READ IT
MAIN MESSAGE
To all noobs, the T-Mobile (WInd or Telus) Galaxy S 4G is NOT internally similar to its predecessor, the T-Mobile Galaxy S Vibrant which lacks 4G and Gingerbread support. If you flash a Galaxy S Vibrant ROM, your phone may (and probably will) die, and will likely be void from warranty if you still have it! You should only flash ROMS available in THiS forum. All other Galaxy S variants including Galaxy S I9000, and other Galaxy S SGH model ROMS, Galaxy Y ROMS, Galaxy S II ROMS, Galaxy S III ROMS, Galaxy Note I ROMS, Galaxy Note II Roms, Galaxy Note 10.1 ROMS, Galaxy Tab ROMS, Galaxy Player ROMS, and any other Android Phone ROM will also kill the phone.
The label, Galaxy S doesn't mean Galaxy S "4G". There is a "HUGE" difference.
THERE ARE NOW AN INCOMING FLOOD OF GALAXY S "4" USERS.... THIS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT DEVICE... PLEASE POST IN THE FORUM THAT CORRESPONDS TO THE MODEL NUMBER BEHIND YOUR BATTERY
THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS WARNING IS TO STOP GALAXY S 4G AND GALAXY S VIBRANT USERS FROM FLASHING ROMS THAT ARE NOT FROM THEIR EXACT PHONE'S FORUM AS WELL AS TO STOP AN INCOMING FLOOD OF GALAXY S 4 USERS TO POST QUESTIONS IN HERE
Bump for sticky.
Bump bump BUMP!!!
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bhundven said:
Bump for sticky.
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Seriously, sticky this beast. Its almost every day I see a thread with some poor sap who didn't do ANY research, has a bricked phone because he was trying to flash a vibrant ROM XD
While part of me says that if they can't bother to do the research before messing with a very expencive device then they deserve to be bricked with a voided warranty but then the other part says that this is good info so it is now stuck.
i do have to agree that this is good info, but isn't this referring to #3 in the 10 commandments thread? just wondering.
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i do have to agree that this is good info, but isn't this referring to #3 in the 10 commandments thread? just wondering.
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Good point. From some of the threads I've been reading, it doesn't sound like some people even pay attention to the stickies as it is.
Maybe the better question: Does having yet another sticky stop people from posting stupid stuff? Probably not.
I'm proud to be a part of this forum and community, and I'm tired of having to filter through a bunch of crap to find the needle(useful post) in the haystack(thread).
I hope that we, as a community, can band together to report abusive users (by clicking the alert triangle in the title bar of the abusive user's comment) and to help nurture the newbies to feel safe to ask questions so they don't follow bad advise and bootloop or worse... brick.
I hope that this being sticky catches someone's eye so they don't flash the wrong roms, if they are on other phones.
For the record I came to this site after flashing a vibrant rom through(gasp) ROM Manager. You know the story. Only option close to this phone was VIBRANT(this was back in feb and still the same). Some better googling led me here. Fixed my problem without so much as a post. Other people think and act different than I do. They will ask for help. They will be noobs. It's your choice whether or not to help. If you choose not to help than let that be it.
Oh bye the way NO ONE reads stickies
hechoen said:
For the record I came to this site after flashing a vibrant rom through(gasp) ROM Manager. You know the story. Only option close to this phone was VIBRANT(this was back in feb and still the same). Some better googling led me here. Fixed my problem without so much as a post. Other people think and act different than I do. They will ask for help. They will be noobs. It's your choice whether or not to help. If you choose not to help than let that be it.
Oh bye the way NO ONE reads stickies
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Well then they deserve what they get.
Rewritting the OS on your phone without doing the needed research is just plain stupid
zelendel said:
Well then they deserve what they get.
Rewritting the OS on your phone without doing the needed research is just plain stupid
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I thanked, because it seems to be the biggest problem with this site.
No one reads the stickies.
Should the site maybe implement a lightbox of some sort that pops up to remind users of the rules and reading the stickies and ops?
EDIT: It would be annoying, but if it worked, it would become less annoying to *not* have to scroll through 100-200 page threads of newbs fighting over stupid crap posted in the sticky and op...
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I thanked, because it seems to be the biggest problem with this site.
No one reads the stickies.
Should the site maybe implement a lightbox of some sort that pops up to remind users of the rules and reading the stickies and ops?
EDIT: It would be annoying, but if it worked, it would become less annoying to *not* have to scroll through 100-200 page threads of newbs fighting over stupid crap posted in the sticky and op...
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We have tried to make things as easy as we can but in the end this is a development site so when joining is is expected that people research and learn. I just wish people would stop following videos that are mostly out dated. It is amazing how lazy some people are. To be honest I am all out of pity and sympathy for those that don't do their homework. Its not rocket science after all lol
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We have tried to make things as easy as we can but in the end this is a development site so when joining is is expected that people research and learn. I just wish people would stop following videos that are mostly out dated. It is amazing how lazy some people are. To be honest I am all out of pity and sympathy for those that don't do their homework. Its not rocket science after all lol
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It's not rocket surgery or brain science. The simple fact is people want an easy way to do things. That's why they(myself inluded) are here. My homework is my own. So is my frustration. I ask not for sympathy but for pentance. I am so fuc?ing tired of off the cuff remarks from users of this site that claim to "know it all" but slam some poor ****er asking for help. How do you build a comminity on top of that? Search for sure. Notice the hottest topic right now is this one?
Zeledel
Do not expect people to be you. I sure as hell don't
I don't but I do expect them to do what I did when started, the same thing that everyone is expected to do. And that is to spend a good amount of time reading. When I started I knew nothing of modding and only had basic computer skills. So I joined and spent weeks reading up on what I was doing before I even attempted to software unlock my device. If you asked a question here without doing your research you were flamed left and right as it was and still is expected that people do the research before posting. Mainly sense modding your phone breaks your warranty and if you bricked it there was no way back and no returning to stock to return it.
As for the off the cuff remarks, I am sorry it has come to this. You can ask any one of my team mates. I am the first to spend hours upon hours helping people. Hell I have even spent 4 hours on an international call to help a user that has bricked his phone. In the end it comes down to if you do the research and then after all the work it is still acting up then people are more opted to help.
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I don't but I do expect them to do what I did when started, the same thing that everyone is expected to do. And that is to spend a good amount of time reading. When I started I knew nothing of modding and only had basic computer skills. So I joined and spent weeks reading up on what I was doing before I even attempted to software unlock my device. If you asked a question here without doing your research you were flamed left and right as it was and still is expected that people do the research before posting. Mainly sense modding your phone breaks your warranty and if you bricked it there was no way back and no returning to stock to return it.
As for the off the cuff remarks, I am sorry it has come to this. You can ask any one of my team mates. I am the first to spend hours upon hours helping people. Hell I have even spent 4 hours on an international call to help a user that has bricked his phone. In the end it comes down to if you do the research and then after all the work it is still acting up then people are more opted to help.
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One thing to remember alot of people are not you. We agree are many things. People are still not you. Because A = B if I am A or B than we are the same. C is always an option. Be the better person don't expect or think humane kind will hold themselves in that same regard. Be who you are but remember C is also an option.
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One thing to remember alot of people are not you. We agree are many things. People are still not you. Because A = B if I am A or B than we are the same. C is always an option. Be the better person don't expect or think humane kind will hold themselves in that same regard. Be who you are but remember C is also an option.
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Agreed.
For anyone that has been keeping up. Please don't think that I am trying to say that I am like some tech guru. Lol far from it. I only meant to show what can happen when you put some love, effort, common since, strong searchfu toss in some grey hairs into your device. Never know the guy that joins XDA tomorrow may become the next CM.
If you believe you can or if you believe you can't either way you are right.
pft.
Sometimes when your having a bad day, keeping your fingers off the keyboard makes things better.
I had to re-read hechoen 3 times until I got it.
agreed. Also, people should not flash to their phone until they really know what they are doing. When I first rooted my G1, I read for 2 months before trying. Also, I ended up frying my rom and being stuck i bootloader for a day, but I never posted a single thread anywhere(I wasn't a member). So before people say "HELP, am I bricked?" they should try "EVERYTHING" to solve their own problems. The senior members aren't the phone company warranty plans.
google does a good job of leading other galaxy variants to different forum. When i first googled this phone google led me to the i9000 forum, and from reviews and comparisons on other sites they say this phone is very similar to the vibrant so its easy to get confused.Its bad enough samsung has like 10 phones with the galaxy name on it too. I think this thread should be stickied on general and Q and A also, its very easy to be misled here.
Sticky vs. Wiki
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To all noobs, the galaxy s 4g isn't the vibrant, if you flash a vibrant rom, your phone may die. You should only flash roms available in this forum. Galaxy S I9000 roms and GS2 roms will also kill the phone. The label, Galaxy S doesn't mean Galaxy S "4G". There is a "HUGE" difference.
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So, why is the xda-dev wiki leading noobs to believe otherwise?
Clicking on that link (which is supposedly a list of all the Galaxy S models), we see the Galaxy S 4G nestled in amongst all the generic Galaxy S models. Shouldn't there be a separate section here for the 4G just as there is for a Galaxy S II and a Galaxy Tablet?
It's one thing to make this post a Sticky (which may or may not be found via searching), and quite another to deliberately classify the Galaxy S 4G as a Galaxy S on the Wiki (which is much more prominent than a Sticky)!
p.s.
I had specifically asked a moderator to create a new group for the Galaxy S 4G over 6 months ago...
[email protected] said:
So, why is the xda-dev wiki leading noobs to believe otherwise?
Clicking on that link (which is supposedly a list of all the Galaxy S models), we see the Galaxy S 4G nestled in amongst all the generic Galaxy S models. Shouldn't there be a separate section here for the 4G just as there is for a Galaxy S II and a Galaxy Tablet?
It's one thing to make this post a Sticky (which may or may not be found via searching), and quite another to deliberately classify the Galaxy S 4G as a Galaxy S on the Wiki (which is much more prominent than a Sticky)!
p.s.
I had specifically asked a moderator to create a new group for the Galaxy S 4G over 6 months ago...
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I actually beg to differ. The galaxy s 4g is a 'galaxy s' phone based on the s5pc1xx (specifically the s5pc110 in PoP with the onenand-flex and dram, just like the epic4g and fascinate) processor (hummingbird chipset). The sgs2 is based on the exynos chipset.
The tablet IS in a class of it's own.
I don't understand your post.
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I've been a member of xda-dev since 2006 but have made only a few posts.
I'm interested in becoming more active and contributing as a developer, but I have some pretty strict posting restrictions because I'm a "new" user. (Post timing, edit timing, no links, etc)
Would it be possible to have these restrictions removed based on that fact that I've been a member for 6 years without incident?
Thanks,
tekkdrone
i don't think time on this board has to do with anything. you've been a member for 6 years yet only have 4 counted posts, which means you probably havent contributed much[not dissing you] to have the initial restrictions lifted
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i don't think time on this board has to do with anything. you've been a member for 6 years yet only have 4 counted posts, which means you probably havent contributed much[not dissing you] to have the initial restrictions lifted
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hmmmmm
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hmmmmm
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I caught that too. But I'm the noob, so maybe I'm counting posts wrong. But if I have to post over 300 posts to lift my "10 post" restriction, I'll never be able to post in the non-general forums.
Yeah, I also find the restrictions a little annoying. I've been working with Android for a few years, but I never joined up here. Now that I have, I can't be seen as a developer until I've made a certain amount of posts. Not the end of the world, but still not a very good idea considering that anyone can easily get around this.
Agreed.
Yesterday, I was forced to PM a ROM developer regarding a serious issue since I wasn't able to post in the thread.
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Yeah, I also find the restrictions a little annoying. I've been working with Android for a few years, but I never joined up here. Now that I have, I can't be seen as a developer until I've made a certain amount of posts. Not the end of the world, but still not a very good idea considering that anyone can easily get around this.
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Not that I fall into this category or anything, but what is the post count to post as a developer?
This is the first forum I've been on with these kinds of restrictions. I find it odd.
The post count restriction is for those users that only join to spam the development threads with "MY CAMERA DOESN'T WORK. WHY DOESN'T IT WORK?!!?!!!!!1"
If you want the restrictions lifted, just follow a thread and join the conversation.
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That seems ok I guess. I wasn't aware of this either, I am following the d3 kexec and can't post, it made me a bit bummed. Im not going to lie...
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Please have a look here: Postcount limit in developmental fora
I can understand the frustration this might bringt to some of you - but as said in the thread above, there's no better alternative.
If you have one, bring it out.
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Please have a look here: Postcount limit in developmental fora
I can understand the frustration this might bringt to some of you - but as said in the thread above, there's no better alternative.
If you have one, bring it out.
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restrictions do not make sense because I tasted such a Rom and see problems in it and I can tell the developer, who might not have noticed, but good forums are rules and should be respected
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Agreed.
Yesterday, I was forced to PM a ROM developer regarding a serious issue since I wasn't able to post in the thread.
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I know that feeling. Every time I got a real problem, then I found that I'm under the posts count restriction. But can't deny this is effective to prevent thread form spamming.
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restrictions do not make sense because I tasted such a Rom and see problems in it and I can tell the developer, who might not have noticed, but good forums are rules and should be respected
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The restrictions make sense precisely because of that reason. The two posts you have made prior to this one are;-
Good morning, I installed makious v Rom. 11.1 for my HTC evo 3D and calendar reminders are sometimes not
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Good morning, I installed the evolver Rom 2.1 for my HTC evo 3D and occasionally lost wifi signal and also the calendar reminders are sometimes not.
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Neither of those comments will be remotely useful to a developer or to a development thread.
If you were posting something along the lines of
I have recently installed your ROM v3.1 and have encountered a problem with synchronizing my calendar if I am running application 'Z'. I have rolled back to v3.0 and this problem didn't exist. I have also tried various other ICS ROMs and don't get the same problem.
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and you had searched the thread fully to ensure that nobody else had reported the problem and it wasn't listed in the 'Known Issues' at the start of the thread ...
... then the post might be worthwhile making.
I am a regular on the HTC Desire S forums - and all we seem to get at the moment are newbies asking the same
why doesn't the camera work?
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Why can't I use Wi-Fi Tether
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and so on - problems that are well known to exist in every ICS-based ROM on our platform.
These sort of questions just cause anger and waste time - both for the devs who are trying to do a fantastic job for free and the people who actually want to join in and have the capability to help the devs with testing and troubleshooting.
I hope that you understand a bit clearer now. I, personally, don't think the 10 post limit is enough. I don't believe any XDA member should be able to post into the dev threads unless they have been approved by at least one dev - based on previous posts, helping other users and general attitude.
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Aaaand stuff like these.
SimonTS said:
The restrictions make sense precisely because of that reason. The two posts you have made prior to this one are;-
Neither of those comments will be remotely useful to a developer or to a development thread.
If you were posting something along the lines of
and you had searched the thread fully to ensure that nobody else had reported the problem and it wasn't listed in the 'Known Issues' at the start of the thread ...
... then the post might be worthwhile making.
I am a regular on the HTC Desire S forums - and all we seem to get at the moment are newbies asking the same
and so on - problems that are well known to exist in every ICS-based ROM on our platform.
These sort of questions just cause anger and waste time - both for the devs who are trying to do a fantastic job for free and the people who actually want to join in and have the capability to help the devs with testing and troubleshooting.
I hope that you understand a bit clearer now. I, personally, don't think the 10 post limit is enough. I don't believe any XDA member should be able to post into the dev threads unless they have been approved by at least one dev - based on previous posts, helping other users and general attitude.
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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the way I have written the comments, what happens is you get into the threads of the developers and people write what I wrote, and I've more or less copied. It's a very good forum and to continue so, and I apologize if I offended anyone has.
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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the way I have written the comments, what happens is you get into the threads of the developers and people write what I wrote, and I've more or less copied. It's a very good forum and to continue so, and I apologize if I offended anyone has.
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No apology required mate - at least you understand now. I hope that you spend a long time with the community and gain half as much as I have done from it.
simply join conversations and contribute, that's all there is to it
don't fight the system, work with it :angel:
Tread Closed. I would recommend PMing a senior mod directly about this matter.
I've been a loyalist to the SL i9003 forum, From the day the threads went up to when we were grouped under the Galaxy S section as a sub base, Honestly despite moving onto greener pastures the SL i9003 has always been my first choice in the android department, hence why I still keep my SLi9003 and why I would spend as much as it takes to keep it alive than any other higher tier class phones.
First, this thread means no threat, but ofcourse, this is General section and anything goes, The moderators have been doing a splendid job, and if anything what surprises me the most is the activity----in a Legacy & Low Activity Devices section, but a few things have irked me.
I have stood around in the Hillbeast thread and side with Dhiru's and both are what's "Hot" or what's keeping thing's alive here, in a place where development has met it's scarcity. I agree the moderators have done their job properly in keeping things in line where patience runs short considering both developers (Or might I recognize just one- Hey it's the truth, monkey see, monkey do) depend on each other's work to keep the phone in it's tip top shape, but why has the moderation been so strict?
If anything this is the Legacy & Low Activity Devices and we have been shot down from once a standard recognized phone, to the abyss of low tier phones, I would agree there is alot of noob questions being asked, and alot of ruckus about the recent events, but aren't we, the community to decide and voice our opinions out? I would agree the noob questions/statements need to be rubbed off from the thread but I feel the manner of erasing certain posts and thread has gone a bit---overboard and I feel this thread would meet it's match soon. Again, I mean no disrespect to the fine moderators who have done their job properly. I just feel someone had to state this out.
And why? A small share, I was told recently I had been featured on XDA and I didn't even know it (GTab 10.1) so I decided to Google myself, upon doing so, I had seen my threads been offlinked, copy pasted from the GT-i9003 section into other forums, usually I'd ignore this but I noticed most of them are scared to ask or post because of the strict moderation that goes around that too on a Legacy & Low Activity Devices section. Most of them require the tutorial guide in order to move forward to dhiru's ROM because everyone knows if you screw up while flashing a firmware, you end up having a screwed phone not worth having a "blessing" on. I feel the crucial part gets erased, if anything most developers need to know the feedback, improving requires feedback, feedback inspires improvisation.
This has just been going on for a while, and I feel I needed to say this, perhaps most of the community would agree with me on this.
Good job once again to the moderators. With all due respect.
thats really true ....
well said brother !!!
Hope Mods doesn't delete this topic also !!!
nicely said ! if it wasnt u, i would have posted such ! because things do seem to get out of hand ! before you kno it most of the important posts are deleted without the concerned developers reading it!
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nicely said ! if it wasnt u, i would have posted such ! because things do seem to get out of hand ! before you kno it most of the important posts are deleted without the concerned developers reading it!
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I feel the crucial part gets erased, if anything most developers need to know the feedback, improving requires feedback, feedback inspires improvisation.
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I feel the crucial part gets erased, if anything most developers need to know the feedback, improving requires feedback, feedback inspires improvisation.
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Ya especially feedback by senior member for hillbeast & not stupid feedback by stupid noobs who have recently joined this forum (who dont know history of this fotum).
@ misledz
Well said brother
@OP .. or anyone else ... care to explain all this in a more of layman's term. Just for literarily inept people like me.
What exactly happened? What was posted and then removed?
Only then I might be able to participate in this debate.
Flame me for my opinions but not for my questions.
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@OP .. or anyone else ... care to explain all this in a more of layman's term. Just for literarily inept people like me.
What exactly happened? What was posted and then removed?
Only then I might be able to participate in this debate.
Flame me for my opinions but not for my questions.
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More or less when we placed our expectations on HB we had hoped there would be more of a response than ignorance. Instead the posts got deleted, thread got cleaned and such.
@krazzy Wow I didn't think id' see you here too
^^ Now I see what exactly you're saying.
Even I felt that after months(weeks if you say so) of inactivity for a much awaited and critical development, asking for a ETA(disguised or not) shouldn't be considered a taboo/bane.
People (current senior members) knew(anticipated) this was critical to further development for this device, and decided to donate for a device to get a willing (note this word) and experienced developer to help in this project.
For new users , before posting anything, please understand that lack of development on this front is taking a toll on the very few developers we have for this device. I personally know a couple of devs, who could have helped in this development, if it really happened, who have moved on for greener pastures.
I repeat, these seniors who are (unnecessarily?) asking for ETAs aren't asking after a week from initial announcement/donation.
This is just my opinion, as I felt obliged to post it.
I agree with you:
Improving requires feedback, feedback inspires improvisation.
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But it is also true that most of the time things are not done the way they should be. I'll use as an example Hillbeast's Kernel 3.x thread too:
Since the beginning, hillbeast stated users should use [Q/A] thread for inquiries and different stuff instead of the development thread, but people continued posting questions in that thread. At first, hillbeast answered almost every question; then, people started asking for ETA and such annoying things, and that's something we could not allow. Finally, moderators appeared and cleaned the whole thread, and now they keep it 'cleaned', also deleting questions not directly related with kernel 3.x development, which at first were more or less tolerated.
To sum up, the ones who worsened the situation were we, people who don't understand the current problems developers are facing, and that led to moderators deleting posts of people just asking questions because they are noobs or they want to know what's going on.
I know it because I've been in this forum for a year and a half (I am not a developer nor a contributor, so I try to keep quiet and just press thanks or give some feedback, that's why I only have a few posts), and i've been reading that thread regularly, at least once a day, since the first post.
I am not blaming anybody, I just think that the way moderators behave has its own reasons...
As we say in Spain, "Al final pagan justos por pecadores", that means something like: "In the end, pay righteous people because of sinners" (sorry for the translation, that's the only way I came up to express it.
Cheers!
@matapollos that's going as my status for the day ! And that has so much truth to it, I've been watching the HB thread ever since it started. Seen the people who took the initiative to help him but a developer is only as strong as the community that favors him, If anything HB should have kept his word, the community had kept theirs on the phone. It just feels---wrong? Yes you will help and answer but there's a saying in english, All bark and no bite. Actions should match what was preached.
As I just woke up and haven't had any coffee, I am not going to do anything with this yet until I have a chance to go through it properly.
OK, gotta run off to work, but here is something.
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I've been a loyalist to the SL i9003 forum, From the day the threads went up to when we were grouped under the Galaxy S section as a sub base, Honestly despite moving onto greener pastures the SL i9003 has always been my first choice in the android department, hence why I still keep my SLi9003 and why I would spend as much as it takes to keep it alive than any other higher tier class phones.
First, this thread means no threat, but ofcourse, this is General section and anything goes, The moderators have been doing a splendid job, and if anything what surprises me the most is the activity----in a Legacy & Low Activity Devices section,
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Thanks.
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but a few things have irked me.
I have stood around in the Hillbeast thread and side with Dhiru's and both are what's "Hot" or what's keeping thing's alive here, in a place where development has met it's scarcity. I agree the moderators have done their job properly in keeping things in line where patience runs short considering both developers (Or might I recognize just one- Hey it's the truth, monkey see, monkey do) depend on each other's work to keep the phone in it's tip top shape, but why has the moderation been so strict?
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I assure you that I am taking actions based on reports. I do not own a Galaxy SL so I am not here other than for mod purposes.
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If anything this is the Legacy & Low Activity Devices and we have been shot down from once a standard recognized phone, to the abyss of low tier phones, I would agree there is alot of noob questions being asked, and alot of ruckus about the recent events, but aren't we, the community to decide and voice our opinions out? I would agree the noob questions/statements need to be rubbed off from the thread but I feel the manner of erasing certain posts and thread has gone a bit---overboard and I feel this thread would meet it's match soon. Again, I mean no disrespect to the fine moderators who have done their job properly. I just feel someone had to state this out.
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I am taking actions based on reports entered by the community members here. Since I do not own a Galaxy SL I am not a member of any of the factions here.
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And why? A small share, I was told recently I had been featured on XDA and I didn't even know it (GTab 10.1) so I decided to Google myself, upon doing so, I had seen my threads been offlinked, copy pasted from the GT-i9003 section into other forums, usually I'd ignore this but I noticed most of them are scared to ask or post because of the strict moderation that goes around that too on a Legacy & Low Activity Devices section. Most of them require the tutorial guide in order to move forward to dhiru's ROM because everyone knows if you screw up while flashing a firmware, you end up having a screwed phone not worth having a "blessing" on. I feel the crucial part gets erased, if anything most developers need to know the feedback, improving requires feedback, feedback inspires improvisation.
This has just been going on for a while, and I feel I needed to say this, perhaps most of the community would agree with me on this.
Good job once again to the moderators. With all due respect.
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People scared to ask questions? Really? That would be news based on the number of questions that keep getting asked.
Can you give specific examples of your threads which have been copied to other device forums please?
As far as thread cleaning/deleting posts, I can promise that I have not deleted one single bit of "crucial" information.
I have to go for now, but I will continue this later. I want to work with you guys, but I also am required to do certain things for reasons you are not aware of. I am happy to explain them wherever possible.
Thank you,
mf2112
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@matapollos that's going as my status for the day ! And that has so much truth to it, I've been watching the HB thread ever since it started. Seen the people who took the initiative to help him but a developer is only as strong as the community that favors him, If anything HB should have kept his word, the community had kept theirs on the phone. It just feels---wrong? Yes you will help and answer but there's a saying in english, All bark and no bite. Actions should match what was preached.
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Well said Misledz.
My own recognize developer list have only one name still, trying to get it more, however, they still yet to be right.
i have once donate a SL to a XDA member(or Developer?), and now he's still not yet recognized by public (or XDA?) what is going on here at SL forum?
for the MOD, I think they are fair enough, rules is rules, it mean to be follow, but...still...... anyone missing Jay here ?:victory:
Another trend I've noticed, is the rise of the "unofficial" moderators.
People "spamming" on almost every post.
Best example would be a newbie on XDA asking for something like an ETA, and the damn post has 20+ replies saying Donot Ask for ETAs.
This was just an example.
I see that there are more of such posts, than that of regular queries.
This makes checking threads sometimes very much irritating. Opening a thread only to find out just another reply moderating previous posts.
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More or less when we placed our expectations on HB we had hoped there would be more of a response than ignorance. Instead the posts got deleted, thread got cleaned and such.
@krazzy Wow I didn't think id' see you here too
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brother i have always visit i9003 section when i visit xda
moderation shd be strict. so as to keep only usefull n informative posts. else we all will be lost in huge amt of posts.
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moderation shd be strict. so as to keep only usefull n informative posts. else we all will be lost in huge amt of posts.
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I have to agree with you.
This forum is for developers. Testers and noobs are here as visitors and if they are looking around for information, they should search very hard before distracting the major contributors. Testing helps the devs, but harassment doesn't. Testing doesn't mean complaining about battery life. That is what spoiled children do. Thinking about yourself. People who have questions will always find the answer to their questions by searching. If there is no answer anywhere to be found (extremely rare), start a new thread in the General Section. It's simple.
I'm neither a developer nor a programmer. But I know my place and just say what's necessary and search very very hard before asking a question. At least I try. I think about the developers that use this forum to work on phones and don't appreciate it when someone who obviously has no interest in development comes and makes demands as though a ROM or a MOD or any feature or bug is the responsibility of these devs.
I find it crazy when I see non-devs here with hundreds of posts.
It would make much more sense for everyone to keep quiet and read. No need to comment on every thread you go through. ESPECIALLY if you're not developing or solving a problem.
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I have to agree with you.
This forum is for developers. Testers and noobs are here as visitors and if they are looking around for information.
I'm neither a developer nor a programmer. But I know my place and just say what's necessary and search very very hard before asking a question. At least I try. I think about the developers that use this forum to work on phones and don't appreciate it when someone who obviously has no interest in development comes and makes demands as though a ROM or a MOD or any feature or bug is the responsibility of these devs.
I find it crazy when I see non-devs here with hundreds of posts.
It would make much more sense for everyone to keep quiet and read. No need to comment on every thread you go through. ESPECIALLY if you're not developing or solving a problem.
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samisax, you have my sympathy! You have written exactly what I was thinking. It annoys me when I see people demanding things to developers, as if they were their employers...
At least in this thread I've realised there's still people with good manners that knows when they may ask for something from others or not.
I'm really really relieved. Thank you guys
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OK, home from work now. First, I am not ever going to infract or punish someone for expressing their honest opinion, as long as it is done in a civil fashion, so I definitely appreciate a good discussion.
To respond to this thread in a general fashion...I see vague complaints over a great many forums about mods doing this or that, or not doing this or that, but rarely any specific instances. We do have a thread in this forum: Moderators to assist should anyone want to bring up specific instances of problems. That means links so we can go there and fix the problems. Please feel free to use that thread. Please feel free to (continue to) use the report button as several dozen of you already have. I have several pages full of reports from this forum. Please feel free to PM me. Some of you have done this, I have received PMs from a number of members with requested actions of me. People have posted requests in the thread above as well. In fact that is really where this thread should have gone, but you don't really have specific examples, so ok.
So people here are reporting things which I am taking actions per the guidelines I have been issued by the Moderator Committee. "Strict" is all relative. I thought I had been strict but fair so far. According to other mods, including jayharper08, I have been too lenient. I am not sure how much "modding" the Galaxy users here want but I can state that the answer is not leaning towards "lenient" based on the number and types of reports I am getting. If people here didn't care, they wouldn't bother to report thread after thread, post after post.
Without any specific examples I can't really give you specific answers as to why I took whatever action I did, but I can tell you that my motivations for working many many MANY hours on XDA that have led to being a moderator were definitely not to close or move threads or posts from other users in other forums I had no real time or interest for given that I never owned or ever will own any of them, or to have to explain repeatedly that it is NOT OK to distribute paid applications here on XDA as this is a community of developers, some of which do make their living from writing software, and that piracy is stealing in exactly the same fashion as if it had been lifted off the store shelf and walked out with it, or to reluctantly hand out infractions to users after PMs and warnings proved not to be sufficient. We don't like to do this. Not one mod I have talked to enjoys having to discipline members, but the alternative is far worse. We are not going to let XDA go downhill like many other sites have done. There are community rules and the rules will be followed, for the benefit of all in the community.
Now, to answer this thread with a very specific example which in all honesty seems to the the *real* issue underlying most other issues in this forum.
Hillbeast.
First, can someone point me to a thread or something written down which says exactly what hillbeast was supposed to do and when? I don't want to prejudge the situation, but all I know so far is that several phones were purchased with pooled monies, one of which went to hillbeast, one went to dhiru (I think, not sure on this one), and one went to another (unrecognized?) dev that I can''t recall the name of who seems to have skipped. If there is something written down that gives me very clear guidelines on what was given and what was expected it would be very helpful here, instead of vague complaints and ETA demands, which frankly I did erase without a second thought.
I see several posts here in this thread concerned that I might have erased something important. I promise to every one of you that I deleted nothing that would remotely qualify as "important" or more to the point "relevant" to a dev thread. If there was anything even slightly technical or related in those posts, I would keep it and erase only the unrelated parts. I deleted the initial offending posts which were reported, then I removed the followup piling on posts, some of which went overboard and were also reported. When arguments start, both sides posts are going to be deleted. No one is more right from all evidence I have seen so far. Since I do not own this device and am not in any of the factions here, I am not taking any sides, but I will defend any members from unwarranted attacks or unsubstantiated claims.
I am not sure how many people here have even the faintest understanding of how real development works. Too many people I think have a completely wrong understanding based on ROMs they are seeing from "devs" that are nothing more than zip jockeys. Frankly, I doubt there is one person in 10,000 here on XDA that can really understand what hillbeast is trying to do. Without benefit of assistance from the manufacturer.
In fact, the manufacturer doesn't even want people doing this at all since it might cause them not buy the newest model phone.
So what I need here is the contract that was agreed to by hillbeast and the other devs and the members here. I can't go by anything vague or that isn't stipulated by 100% of the involved parties. I wasn't here when this deal was set up, but I promise to carefully evaluate everything and I will act fairly.
Thank you,
mf2112
EDIT: To be clear, I am not saying I am going to take an action here. My gut feeling as someone who has worked around software development for more than 10 years is that many of you guys are simply being too impatient. Especially given that hillbeast (despite the irony of his username ) is not an employee of anyone here to the best of my knowledge.
As far as how people want me to mod...well, I am not jayharper08 so I am not going to do things like he did. I can tell you that I don't want to run the forum. I don't want to go through all the threads and posts and find "modly" things to do in my not-so-spare time. When people report things then I come check it out and figure out what to do. Since people here report a lot, I am here more often, which is fine with me but some people may not appreciate. BTW, your thread was not reported, I found it on my own. :victory:
The above being said, I am human and I can make mistakes. If anyone has an issue then talk to me. If I did something wrong I will correct it. If you disagree with something I have done then let me know why (civilly) and I will explain to the best of my ability. You have no reason to fear talking to me in public or private. I became a mod to help people here, not harm them.
Mf2112,
Firstly I would like to thank you for taking the time to sit and read through this and place your points on the table along with your opinions. In a way the thread wasn't that hard to find (Considering the Triangle and the word "Moderator" brings people to see what's being said, pretty nifty tactic I learned over at the GNexus side LOL) as much as I would like to press thanks, the ever so wonderful system has permitted me from my daily 8 limit. And I would do so because this was more or less the response I least expected, in the sense, it's a good response, infact an unbiased one but touches all areas, like a pedophile checking his new victim.
Before I start this, I have no ill intention towards HB, but the whole ETA in the HB thread turned sour only because the agreement between developer (I would hold my word on the developer part) and community was made in exchange. Yes his help was sought out because we had believed that XDA is a place where people share their expertise. Do what is agreed upon (with a fair deal ofcourse) and we don't place any high expectations or hopes in such. But when it's been half a year, that's when things start to roll considering with each passing month, another flagship Class A/B phone get's launched, which is the initial reason why the ETA's went up in flames (But ofcourse this only applies to who ACTUALLY can do something with it). I would have agreed if HB had stated what he lacked, and why he was unable to provide so, he had done initially in the beginning, but when it was more of "Speak first, we listen, then show us what you have done" he turned all silent, which turned tides.
There were 4 phones donated, DoomLord, Fuss132, dhiru, codeworkx. Each of them presented something within a short time of the device they were given, I mean such is the expectation isn't it? I know pooling isn't a big deal considering its $5-$10 each person, but if the community was aware that there were going to be no results that would emerge then they would have donated to XDA instead and gotten a pretty gold star beside their name. I don't know if I'm being too emotional over $5-$10's, but when you climb up that harsh economy ladder from a third world country like most of us do, you suddenly get that feel of how important/valuable $1 is. (Consider the fact that some would find people crazy to spend over RS/PHP 20k over a phone where that would pay up for 1 semester of a College student)
I completely agree however of the mindless babble of those who submit no contribution but have high # of posts. It's insane. But with XDA having 5+ million online user's daily, It's hard to determine who helps and who doesn't. Which is why I've mentioned you have done a splendid job in clean sweeping the arena. Keep up the great work and sorry if this has gone a bit indepth.