Just made this thread upon sympathy on what happened to the SL brotherhood and family like bond?..I dont felt it does exist anymore..to bad many people strived hard to make SL better including original senior members.. SL forum now.... Is way down how we started...
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Yes agreed.
Sorry to all if I heart anyone of you .
If any noob or rookie for android ask any question in development he is anwered like he has murdered someone.
They are rookie or noobs becouse they dont know anythink so there is no point of shouting on them one day they will also become one of them
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I totally agree with you blaq.
There has been way too many unwanted and unnecessary noises on this forum, during the recent past.
I don't know whether it is the case of "one too many".
There are too many developments going on and am waiting to see how many are successfully completed.
I also agree with what you said, one of your other post,
"Dev releases should be for select few".
The general section (this one) have to be used to Q&A thread, not the dev section. It's so simple.
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tarunagg said:
Yes agreed.
Sorry to all if I heart anyone of you .
If any noob or rookie for android ask any question in development he is anwered like he has murdered someone.
They are rookie or noobs becouse they dont know anythink so there is no point of shouting on them one day they will also become one of them
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Yes we were noobs also when we started...but not this situation we have now..
I commend you bro thats you are still making themes for sl... I know how much hardwork to do it...then share ..
Maybe some are just to pissed off thats why they scold.but theres the rule that read first before posting.Its very annoying to see questions that been answered too many times.dicipline should comeback on this forum to gain more respect..
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I totally agree with you blaq.
There has been way too many unwanted and unnecessary noises on this forum, during the recent past.
I don't know whether it is the case of "one too many".
There are too many developments going on and am waiting to see how many are successfully completed.
I also agree with what you said, one of your other post,
"Dev releases should be for select few".
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I know bro. As i much I know all the people who contribute to make SL better and your one of them..
I Dont agree with the "I want SL user to play with phone" a testing for a quite a while would be better.. Avoiding user to be get tired on flashing and worst thing not able to used their phones...
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Yes we were noobs also when we started...but not this situation we have now..
I commend you bro thats you are still making themes for sl... I know how much hardwork to do it...then share ..
Maybe some are just to pissed off thats why they scold.but theres the rule that read first before posting.Its very annoying to see questions that been answered too many times.dicipline should comeback on this forum to gain more respect..
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Every body wants the easier way out.
Ask Q and get A. Don't want to read a thread or search Google, which is not that difficult, is it?
When we were noobs, (though i consider myself as a senior noob), we used to follow the rule of reading the thread before posting.
There are only two solutions to this issue.
1. Either give answers to each Q. without getting frustrated.(Easier to say than to do practically)
2. Do not respond to the questions.
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blaqkarma said:
I know bro. As i much I know all the people who contribute to make SL better and your one of them..
I Dont agree with the "I want SL user to play with phone" a testing for a quite a while would be better.. Avoiding user to be get tired on flashing and worst thing not able to used their phones...
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I attribute this to "EXCITEMENT".
You will agree to this that, till some time back there was very little development. Then Custom Roms came, Cm7 came, now Kernels are coming. There is an explosion of development. All want to show their latest and greatest. In doing so, they are forgetting the basic rule of S/w development "Test Cycle before Beta Release".
The user base is suffering as a result, which is making the Dev's suffer in return.
Agreed and agreed
Been using this phone from the scratch...then a bond to developement had been build... Then come developements..
But now things has been changed..but still no regrets ..at least we have done something for SL and I enjoyed It...
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SGSL community has grown very large since the last time i was here. You have now CM7 - 9, MIUI, Custom kernels etc. I'm proud of you guys, keep up the good work
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SGSL community has grown very large since the last time i was here. You have now CM7 - 9, MIUI, Custom kernels etc. I'm proud of you guys, keep up the good work
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The development has been explosive no doubt but we are still left with a lot of half baked stuff, not to diss any devs here, you guys are honestly magicians in making the impossible possible but I feel there are too many separate things going on right now, but we do not have a single Fully developed Rom! I know its a matter of time and patience but many have tried and left too, its just that almost all the developments have the same bugs (camera, video rec,push notifications) so a collective effort to perfect these issues needs to be looked into.
But hey! keep up the good work! I never expected so much and thought it was a hopeless situation last year but things are a changin
Being a new member here, I was also glad and surprised at the explosive development with our phone. We got some of the most wanted ROMs (CM7, MIUI, CM9, etc.), and I guess some people also wanted those.
What they really don't understand is that all of these roms are under development.
I agree with ganesh on the excitement. Everybody is excited of having a new ROM for their phones, testing everything and all that, but then the problem is
they(or we newcomers) expect everything to work in the first version.
That's what I observed here. Even I, ironically, had to help fellow newbies as much as I can with the same question/bug repeated all over and over (*cough*blacklight issue*cough*).
plus, developers are humans too. That's what we all really missed. People here are eager to have new ROMs, but the greed or want of the ROM comes at the expense of complaining when they know it is a WIP.
Many signs have been put like
CAUTION THIS IS A WIP
and others, but still, they flash anyway. I'm guessing most of the newbies here have had it easy in their old phones whatever they may be, OR they can just be enthusiastic users who have just plunged into the Android world for the first time (like me. )
Well, I'm not a developer, as much as I want to contribute, but then I guess etiquette will have to apply as well. I try to read all the posts which I have missed, and see if there are any new updates and all.
tl;dr Anyway, whatever happens, let's just be thankful we all (actually you guys) have gone this far. There will always be annoying newbies in the forum, anyway. Some will learn to mature. Some will not.
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SGSL community has grown very large since the last time i was here. You have now CM7 - 9, MIUI, Custom kernels etc. I'm proud of you guys, keep up the good work
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Yes bro theres alot,been awsome thinking of the days that we dont even have CWM then came the efforts and Its so amazing that we achived this far but theres more to be develope... just missing the early days of SL helping and being like a family.. Now theres a lot of developement but the order and attitude of fellow SL user changed a lot also.. Its so fraustrating to see this forum like this...
BTW just a little more time i'll be joining the S2 forum soon like you guys....
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Yes bro theres alot,been awsome thinking of the days that we dont even have CWM then came the efforts and Its so amazing that we achived this far but theres more to be develope... just missing the early days of SL helping and being like a family.. Now theres a lot of developement but the order and attitude of fellow SL user changed a lot also.. Its so fraustrating to see this forum like this...
BTW just a little more time i'll be joining the S2 forum soon like you guys....
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Well that's sad . I would wait for the s3, but if your unable to then the s2 would b good too
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Well that's sad . I would wait for the s3, but if your unable to then the s2 would b good too
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Iam planning to have a Nexus but til now theres no official release in the Philippines,, and Yes also I want S3 but til now still indefinite when would it be release so S2 it is.. few week from now Ill be out on this forum.. but still Ill be around cause I love SL ...
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Iam planning to have a Nexus but til now theres no official release in the Philippines,, and Yes also I want S3 but til now still indefinite when would it be release so S2 it is.. few week from now Ill be out on this forum.. but still Ill be around cause I love SL ...
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Its probably releasing within the next 6 months, and I'm like you, sticking with the g3 forum ever since I joined it
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Its probably releasing within the next 6 months, and I'm like you, sticking with the g3 forum ever since I joined it
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wooooah 6 month to long for excitement my SL is almost 1year now (exaclty 9month now) and Yes Ill be still here at SL as I love it, but like now I stop developing and being active on this thread because It changed alot since back then..now people just ask and ask for what they want, not unlike before we work together and think ways together to develope or make things happen..
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wooooah 6 month to long for excitement my SL is almost 1year now (exaclty 9month now) and Yes Ill be still here at SL as I love it, but like now I stop developing and being active on this thread because It changed alot since back then..now people just ask and ask for what they want, not unlike before we work together and think ways together to develope or make things happen..
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I agree... this forum seems very out of order compared with the g3 forum.. except there's a trouble maker there and has been reported alrdy.
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BTW just a little more time i'll be joining the S2 forum soon like you guys....
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I might be doing the same, or waiting for the S3. :/
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I might be doing the same, or waiting for the S3. :/
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But you'll be active here still right, helping noobs out?
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But you'll be active here still right, helping noobs out?
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I wouldn't have a sound thought about that. Maybe.
Related
ok, so ive noticed both the One-Click and Subtly Modified Kernel threads are locked and i didnt see him say anything about having them locked or going on hiatus. does anyone know if everythings alright? did he quit devving? move to Rootz? someone has to know something...
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ok, so ive noticed both the One-Click and Subtly Modified Kernel threads are locked and i didnt see him say anything about having them locked or going on hiatus. does anyone know if everythings alright? did he quit devving? move to Rootz? someone has to know something...
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He got tired of the BS that goes on around here. He said that he was tired of answering question that could be answering by people just doing a little research, and was also tired of people not following the "rules." I completely understand his frustration. He wrote a huge post about it which I think can be found in the gerneral section titled "thinking of leaving XDA" or something like that. He even said he was thinking of disappearing and keeping his work to himself. I do not know if he has stopped deving or just went somewhere else. But god I hope he hasn't stopped deving for us.
Damn noobs making all the mistakes, yet we get the consequences aswell.
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He's still deving. Mods locked his threads and that was the last straw. You'll be able to find him on rootz though.
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Glad to know, thanks! Let's see if i could remember my rootz account, it's been too long!
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Why'd the mods lock his threads? And I knew he had talked about moving to Rootz if people wouldn't follow the rules, etc. I just never saw a "See ya, I'm out" type of post
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Look at his signature.
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Look at his signature.
Sent from my SGS 4G.
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what signature? looks to me like it was removed.
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Ah, he must've removed it. It said something to the effect of, "I'm leaving. Figure it out on your own."
His signature did change.
Regardless, you can follow his work on github:
https://github.com/bhundven
It answers the question of what is he doing- working on a CM build/kernel.
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I just never saw a "See ya, I'm out" type of post
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...See ya, I'm out... kinda. Still working on this phone, I just don't care to partake in the xda shenanigans anymore. Yup, sourceforge and github are where I do stuff.
See: http://bhundven.users.sourceforge.net for more... it should also point you to teamacid, teamnerd, and my personal stuff.
A few senior moderators have pm'd me, and I reexplained my opinion on xda, which they seem to agree with.
This site is called: xda-developers
I think this site needs to go back to being a place for "DEVELOPERS", like it once was.
The "Thinking of leaving..." post was deleted (afaik) because the users started to act unrully in it. Go figure. Good job guys.
But what I stated in that thread, and I will restate here. I'm not done developing, but I don't have a lot of time to work on this stuff. I'm close to getting cm7 to boot, but I will guess that after it works, and there will be lots of fixes before it is stable for users to use. So even if I get cm7 booting I won't release it right away. I do not want to push out a rom that doesn't work right. (well, good enough for me).
do what you gotta man. you have my full support. just wish people were as patient as i am. keep up the awesome work. also, if you need any help with anything, just let me know. i'm willing to test things out and also willing to help out with any graphical ideas. you know how to reach me.
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I'm close to getting cm7 to boot,
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I love you.
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he got tired of what im getitng tired of... The same useless posts the same stupid questions.... No one reads no one stays on topic in the dev fourm. The im new and dont know **** is old hat people just want spoon fed info dont wanna actually read...
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he got tired of what im getitng tired of... The same useless posts the same stupid questions.... No one reads no one stays on topic in the dev fourm. The im new and dont know **** is old hat people just want spoon fed info dont wanna actually read...
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You should lay some rootz down somewhere else. That would be better for those of us who know how to read and actually appreciate what you all do for us and are not impatient and rude.
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I love you.
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lolz... the important part of what you quoted was after what you quoted...
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...but I will guess that after it works, and there will be lots of fixes before it is stable for users to use. So even if I get cm7 booting I won't release it right away. I do not want to push out a rom that doesn't work right. (well, good enough for me).
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Bryan,
Nice to see you back even for a short time. Thanks for all that you've done and are continuing to do. I can understand the frustration with this site especially if your actual trying to Dev. Best of luck and thanks for this kernel.
bswann said:
You should lay some rootz down somewhere else. That would be better for those of us who know how to read and actually appreciate what you all do for us and are not impatient and rude.
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I actually had some free time and i decided to read alot of the threads last night and i can see why you all get so frustrated with people asking "when will you be done??" "how does this work??" I had to read for about three days on just how to even root.. let alone flash my first rom.. but we all wont learn everything if we dont take the time to read it fully ( I love the whole trial and error of it.) Im by all means am not tech savvy but this site has all the answers to ALL the questions to ALL the beautiful roms on this site.. kernel's, roms, baseband, builds, and even mods.. all work in conjunction with eachother.. for me its like putting my own perfect puzzle together to my liking.. Brian has helped me out alot.. Ive only been a member on this site for a short period of time and it pains me that you all feel this way.. Im not a dev.. Im a nurse.. I do know from my career it can be frustrating from people asking the same questions over and over and over.. Ive asked alot of questions and you all have been so helpful to me.. Im just sorry you all feel this way.. I remember signing up a few months ago i watched the video and i got it.. there are alot of different personalities on this site some good some bad.. its just sad that a few "idiots" have got to screw it up for the rest of us that are willing to learn... Ive learned alot in my two months of being here and i just wanted to take the time and say thanks to all of you.. I love this site im on it all the time.. for me personally its a great site my Favorite period.. its just sad that all this ignorance would cause a great person to leave.. thanks Brian for all you have helped me with.. blessings to you and your family man..
Thanks bryan we will never forget you as u have done a big change to our phone... may the good Lord bless and keep you,, will always be at your side..
I am also thinking of migrating to rootz. I already have an account.
So I am reposting my rom over there. See me if you wish. I will respond to pm, and I will post rom updats and "Link Up" etc....
Having 0 development skills myself, I am really surprised by the lack of development coming out for this U.S.A. standard galaxy plus. Guess there is no one to give $$$ to. Oh well I guess just wait for the stock I.C.S.
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Martinjv71 said:
Having 0 development skills myself, I am really surprised by the lack of development coming out for this U.S.A. standard galaxy plus. Guess there is no one to give $$$ to. Oh well I guess just wait for the stock I.C.S.
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its not us its samsung you need to give them crap in order to get them to release sauce codes needed to make custom roms kernels and ports etc....haha
give it a go nag their brains out i am haha
you Got It !!- I will nag- anything for a custom ROM !!
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you Got It !!- I will nag- anything for a custom ROM !!
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iv called them emailed them and shouted at them at gadget shows haha it will work at some point haha
Here's a more important question for you. Why do people keep putting these idiotic posts about no development in the development section? If you just can't live without ROMs to flash start learning how to make them yourself instead of complaining about it.
Alright, this is the last time Im letting this happen. The rules clearly state not to post non-development threads in the Development section. The next person who does this will be sorry.
Development is for Development, not for asking questions or making stupid statements.
I own both the phones i9003 and i9100g. The forum and people here in i9003 place are really awesome. It gives a very homely feeling here. The developments are going on really fast, guys support you here no matter what. I am really missing this environment in the i9100g forum. The main difference between these forums are the members and their spirit. Here in i9003 are spending their sweat to make this device really better in all possible ways and turn good whatever this device or platform has negative things as compared to some better phones. While in i9100g place people are sweating in fighting out whether this phone is crap or not and just looking towards the negativity which the hardware platform has created and no one is pushing for perfecting the device.
I am really thankful to all the developers for perfecting the device, senior members for helping out people like me and all the members for keeping that fighting spirit fabric very strong throughout the forum.
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Sell your i9100g and buy an i9003!
Cheers
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bscraze said:
Sell your i9100g and buy an i9003!
Cheers
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He already said he has both phones
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He already said he has both phones
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Oh wait oops . Sell your i9100g for extra cash!
Cheers
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ashzoomerintrack said:
I own both the phones i9003 and i9100g. The forum and people here in i9003 place are really awesome. It gives a very homely feeling here. The developments are going on really fast, guys support you here no matter what. I am really missing this environment in the i9100g forum. The main difference between these forums are the members and their spirit. Here in i9003 are spending their sweat to make this device really better in all possible ways and turn good whatever this device or platform has negative things as compared to some better phones. While in i9100g place people are sweating in fighting out whether this phone is crap or not and just looking towards the negativity which the hardware platform has created and no one is pushing for perfecting the device.
I am really thankful to all the developers for perfecting the device, senior members for helping out people like me and all the members for keeping that fighting spirit fabric very strong throughout the forum.
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Absolutely agree about i9003 forum. People here are so understanding
Despite the fact, that I have my SGSL for six months, I registered here only yesterday, and already got answers on few my questions.
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While in i9100g place people are sweating in fighting out whether this phone is crap or not and just looking towards the negativity which the hardware platform has created and no one is pushing for perfecting the device.
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That's to be expected for an extremely popular device, really. Everyone here needs each other, and you see the same faces in each thread.
right
i love i9003 so much!!
if there are little be more dev
it will be great!!!
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Absolutely agree about i9003 forum. People here are so understanding
Despite the fact, that I have my SGSL for six months, I registered here only yesterday, and already got answers on few my questions.
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Welcome to the forum
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That's to be expected for an extremely popular device, really. Everyone here needs each other, and you see the same faces in each thread.
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It is the reason why it feels so homely here because you know whom to ask or who can answer you out of the problem
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I know the feeling. Got shocked at how serious the people over at the sgs2 section. People get easily pissed, people asking the same question without reading, even codeworx was pissed with some users over there because of people always complaining about battery life even if cm9 is still experimental blah blah blah. Here, it seems to be peaceful and quiet
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I know the feeling. Got shocked at how serious the people over at the sgs2 section. People get easily pissed, people asking the same question without reading, even codeworx was pissed with some users over there because of people always complaining about battery life even if cm9 is still experimental blah blah blah. Here, it seems to be peaceful and quiet
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I hope this thread doesnt awake such kinda noobs here.....hahaha
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I hope this thread doesnt awake such kinda noobs here.....hahaha
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Lolzzz
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i9003 lover here, im using this phone for about a year and im loving it.
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i9003 lover here, im using this phone for about a year and im loving it.
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welcome to the xda world!!!!
Can someone list any comprehensive changes between the two?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x
Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Then search for yourself, or flash them both and see.
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lazy noob
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Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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You can't get on xda ask how something is or what's better from us. Because those of us that do flash and venture out find out on our own. This entire post is pointless. Strong with you the newness is.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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Its a little tough here on xda but its true that you need to try it out yourself and see what the difference is...personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better but I'm going to have to wait for a complete power cycle before I can confirm this
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personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better
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Which ROM are you using?
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
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At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
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Not just in reply to this but the whole thing. I found this post looking for, well an answer the question that was initially asked. And very quickly pressed the back button on the browser and regoogled. I think the point is XDA is for a higher calibre level of experience and technical understanding and not for your day to day stuff you could read in a geek magazine, or Android Forums for example. Am I right? Just so I know not to make the mistake myself coz u guys get nasty
This threads been reported
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This threads been reported
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
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I disagree, the community itself was built on the backs of do it yourselfers who spent a lot of time and effort to learn and share development, sources, and ideas. The mentality of xda has changed from that of the do it yourselfer spitballing ideas on better code implementation or how to get things working to that of a help desk where it's no longer a community striving to improve and learn they just want things now. Most are content never knowing the effort involved in compiling a ROM or how to modify an apk, hell most can't even use adb to capture logs. The issue here is most certainly complacency amongst newer members. The mentality needs to change in order to see improvement, that's why you see these old timers so grumpy because honestly it's ridiculous the amount of easily searchable questions run through xda.
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I've been thinking maybe a sister site is needed. XDAusers sounds about right. Send all the "I want it now and I won't search" types over that way. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Some will help with devving, some will cry like a two year old when they get a bootloop. It takes all kinds. One thing I have noticed though. Those that can search and read are almost never heard from. Why? Because they search and read. A catch-22 at its finest.
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Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Threads like this.
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
Lastly, we have at least 3 other ICS threads why not ask there?
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ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
I'm trying really hard to remain "civil".....really I am
FBis251 said:
You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
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I like that answer lol
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Why does everybody get annoyed when a regular person just wants to know whats wrong out of curiosity? I don't want any ROM or anything I just wanted a technical answer. is the problem the source code being unreleased? will the company ever release it?
I wish I could help, I would really love to. Its like a dream or long term goal to be a dev, study programming languages etc... but that requires lots of time and I'm just waiting a bit as i'm not sure where to start.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding as I know Devs already have rough days and nights with developing and improving. I wasn't "Demanding" or "pushing" as i'm not that person. I am just seeking knowledge, and if the Q&A section isn't the right place to search for Knowledge then I don't know where is.
The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
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I do understand what you mean, and I already put myself in the dev's shoes and I really admire their work, all of it. But I went through all the threads regarding ICS, and sadly their aim is to push , demand and request stuff from devs as if devs don't have enough on their minds already, and that is really annoying and disrespectful. But not all people are like that. I don't have any requests( I have a Nexus S with ICS, SGS 4g CM7.2) I am just seeking knowledge.
I am really grateful for what each and every DEV offers as it is from their personal and free time. Sorry for any misunderstanding
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I really thank you for your answer sir. You have helped me a lot, I hope I can lend a hand in any way possible. I will read about kernel/rom compiling. I googled many stuff about a month ago but its so vast and big I sort of got lost and stopped.
Thank you...
Sorry for double posting...
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erikmm said:
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
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What Thomas posted is true but the main reason we dont have a working ICS port is this statement above.
The op makes a good point, this is the Q&A section. Even tho there are many threads asking this same question most of them have ended up in bashing with nerf bats or a mod locking because of insults. Ive read the other threads, but most people will stop reading when the conversation turns sour. You might actually read the other posts but your mind shuts it down. So a informative post will slip in and you wont catch it.
The biggest problem with threads that ask this question is assumptions. When people stop assuming and start to understand the person asking the question things get resolved.
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
brandonc0526 said:
I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
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jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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thomas.raines said:
jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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brandonc0526 said:
Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Send me a PM when you guys get on