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There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
Not to sure if this has been posted or not.
This is very disturbing...anything to get info on people..
I don't install antiviruses on my phone,because android is based on linux, and linux doesn't have viruses because of the strong kernel, plus its semi possible that you will have a virus on your phone.:thumbup:
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Octane70 said:
There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
Not to sure if this has been posted or not.
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Its not a new threat, lookouts announcement of it was in 2010 and in 2011 it was picked up by more press but is actually a two year old threat which afaik never did cause any problems but is checked for by google and therefore probably other app distributors.
Dave
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I hear Android 5 (JellyBean) includes some kind of in-built malware protection.
Gotta wonder why...
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Nate2 said:
I hear Android 5 (JellyBean) includes some kind of in-built malware protection.
Gotta wonder why...
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Not heard that, would be surprised if it did as google use bouncer to combat the malware problem.
Dave
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Pancakes_Gio said:
I don't install antiviruses on my phone,because android is based on linux, and linux doesn't have viruses because of the strong kernel, plus its semi possible that you will have a virus on your phone.:thumbup:
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Wrong in many ways, it doesn't have viruses because the market is next to non-existent and getting a virus on an android device is more and more common.
Welp, as they say. Only install from trusted sources and always check the permissions the apps ask for. If you don't want the risk, go buy an Apple product and play by their rules. These are the risks that open-source brings and one that all of us bears in mind when tinkering with such power.
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Wrong in many ways, it doesn't have viruses because the market is next to non-existent and getting a virus on an android device is more and more common.
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Actually linux does have them, see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware for some examples.
Linux has few simply because it tends to get patched quicker. Malware on android devices will increase more this year as its the most used mobile os and so offers more potential victims which makes it a more enticing prospect for hackers.
Dave
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That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though. Does the patching have to do with the Linux distro or the kernel? Serious question as I know little about Linux malware and only briefly used Linux.
i know kernels get patched, i think distros do as well.
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If you don't want the risk, go buy an Apple product
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You're joking, right? TLDR: How do you think jailbreaking is possible if Apple is so secure? Indeed, it's the false confidence that comes from them telling users that it's so secure that's precipitated so many of the blunders.
z33dev33l said:
That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though. Does the patching have to do with the Linux distro or the kernel? Serious question as I know little about Linux malware and only briefly used Linux.
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Kernel gets updated with patches but individual distributions also get system patches or did a few years ago when I last used linux.
I'm curious why you think there's no security built into android, as can be seen at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/security/security.html there are a number of security measures in place.
Dave
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Use your brain for security
All the android malware reports I have ever read are just scare tactics used by various news agencys, blogs, etc to generate more views for their site. Almost all android malware can be avoided by simply being smart with where and what you download. Using iOS doesn't make you safe; downloading well known apps from the play store that only use permissions that are appropriate for its described functionality makes you safe.
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That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though.
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I agree 120% with you, cheating people's hard work will get you burnt!
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Ashmere69 said:
I agree 120% with you, cheating people's hard work will get you burnt!
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Exactly. Buy the app and you don't have to worry about it. Besides, it's not like these apps are fifty bucks each. Pay a couple of dollars and support the ecosyste
I think some of the real culprits to an evil Android is self-awareness on the handset, they always seem to delete and corrupt your stuff before you know it, but yeah, bootlegs are not good at all.
Octane70 said:
There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
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Eek!
iPhone doesn't have this problem...
L33t Masta said:
iPhone doesn't have this problem...
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Think again.
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People are constantly modifying stock ROMs, taking drivers from leaked builds, putting apps in their ROMs, ect... And it makes me wonder, is any of this technically illegal? Maybe not "directly" illegal, I'm thinking "indirectly" illegal. For example, the way installing OS X on a hackintosh is illegal cuz you violate some of Apple's rules or whatever. Get what I mean? Are we breaking the rules and violating a ton of companies' work?
Is there anything wrong with all the ROMing and rooting that goes on with Android?
Edit: Oops, this thread is probably in the wrong place. Sorry. It might belong in "General" or something
Well,I think that flashing roms by itself isn't illegal,as Android is open-source.Messing with locked bootloaders could be considered illegal,and as punishment we are deprived of our warranties.I also think that porting close-source stuff(UIs etc like Sense) that are the property of companies is also illegal,but they do have a way to protect that stuff well enough...
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Well,I think that flashing roms by itself isn't illegal,as Android is open-source.Messing with locked bootloaders could be considered illegal,and as punishment we are deprived of our warranties.I also think that porting close-source stuff(UIs etc like Sense) that are the property of companies is also illegal,but they do have a way to protect that stuff well enough...
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Hmm. That sucks. Basically every ROM out there is probably using something illegally taken out of some stock or leaked ROM or whatever. Doesn't it seem that way?
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Hmm. That sucks. Basically every ROM out there is probably using something illegally taken out of some stock or leaked ROM or whatever. Doesn't it seem that way?
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No, not really. I think that the whole android system is based on open source (AOSP), including "stock" roms.
There are tons of roms developed directly from google's aosp source, taking nothing illegally- on the opposite- contributing to the project...
You can google or look in wikipedia for more info about android open source project.
Why, do you see any problem?
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Im calling the Police!!!! Your Going Down Town to Google Jail!
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Im calling the Police!!!! Your Going Down Town to Google Jail!
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Lol, my concern isn't anything like that. I'm not afraid of getting "caught" or whatever. It's morals. And that's a whole different discussion, I'm not going to get into it ;P
Stuff that is used in custom roms that comes from paid work is ILLEGAL in any way.
Drivers as sample:
- a lot of guys working in company's where the code is done by paid work - used in custom roms is illegal because the small letters from the law
- how to get these cooks by the law. It is hard but the evidence is sampled every day, believe me.
- every cook who is using leaked or stock stuff without the permission from the owner is illegal. Oh s**t XDA has to close a lot of threads very fast, because it is illegal .
Sense is the next sample:
ok HTC is doing nothing at the moment, because they have a profit on that. But in nature it is illegal in any way
Also the Samsung leaked stuff:
Samsung has a lot of profit in that way, but wait for the day when they are bigger or equal as Apple, they will go against that.
Apple:
is the best sample. Ok Apple's politics is s**t in my eyes, but they have the right on his site. Every jail break as sample is illegal in any way.
At the end, i had asked my lawyer about all this leaked and stock stuff, modding and cookking (not a local small one, a big player in our world company). He shows me some facts and normally we all use illegal stuff in the eys of the law. And a normaly good froum, so as XDA, can't change anything on that.
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Stuff that is used in custom roms that comes from paid work is ILLEGAL in any way.
Apple:
is the best sample. Ok Apple's politics is s**t in my eyes, but they have the right on his site. Every jail break as sample is illegal in any way.
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not in usa jailbreaking is legal,downloading paid apps for free,that's another story
Illegal or not once you buy the phone its up to you how you use it
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If you buy a phone, it is now yours and you can do everything with it.
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Jay794 said:
Illegal or not once you buy the phone its up to you how you use it
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If you buy a phone, it is now yours and you can do everything with it.
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When you buy a phone then you are right, but what is with the millions of people who has a contract with her provider and a locked phone, or a phone gift or a phone with the quarter of the price....
Then it is illegal, because you don't are the owner of that phone. You have to pay for it with the contract. At the end of that contract the phone is yours not earlier.
The same thing is when you buy a second hand phone with all this stuff, it is illegal and you have to format it (in simple word *lol).
@xxmarkosxx:
that was new for me that amercia has given it free and that by the power of Apple. I will ask the american lawyer of our company and will come back for that. In two weeks i am there and then i will ask.
The most active illegal activity in custom roms is people porting closed-source vendor apparently like Sony Walkman or HTC Keyboard to other brands. Any kind of reverse engineering on these closed source files is a breach of license.
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Sorry to say, not all the time. Because i know what i have written and what is payed and what not. But in some cases you are right Dan.
In some images i have added special code to see back my work. So some things can be illegal
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Sorry to say, not all the time. Because i know what i have written and what is payed and what not. But in some cases you are right Dan.
In some images i have added special code to see back my work. So some things can be illegal
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There's no such thing as owning software unless you created it yourself from scratch. Even if it's free/free (libre, as in free beer) open source, you don't own the software. You still have to follow the laws of the license. And even if you did create the software yourself, you are still bound my the license agreement of whatever IDE('s)/SDK('s) you used to write it. (E.g. it is illegal to sell software, or use software in a commercial environment, if it was created in Microsoft Visual Studio Express).
This goes the same for apps that are not open source, e.g. Xperia S Launcher or HTC Keyboard, and many apps on the Play Store. When you bought the app/device, you do not own the software, but you are legally permitted to use the software as defined in the license agreement. 95% of closed-source license agreements deny the permission to reverse engineer these files, so as soon as you use APKTool on an APK that is not open-source, you've breached copyright law.
With that said, most OEM's don't seem to care too much about XDA and various other website developments about porting proprietary vendor packages to other devices. They just don't have time or resources to chase these people down and try to sue them (I mean, they're not Apple heh) - it'd cost more money than they'd feasibly get. OTOH, some developers, such as Xiaomi (MIUI ROM creators from China), actually congratulate and share public releases of their closed-source packages being ported to non-MIUI devices and ROM's.
If you do your research, there is no argument to stand against it being illegal - it's a fact. But that's not to say it's wrong, and not to say the OEM's are too bothered about it. After all, they get a bit of publicity about it (some time ago, I switched from a HTC to a Sony device because I was much more impressed with Xperia's UI and stock apps which I used on a hacked HTC device).
Regarding bootloader/unlocking/rooting, not all manufacturers demonize it. Sony provide an official means to do it - as long as the provider has not blocked bootloader unlocking (which then requires specialized service - as said, this is usually in the case of a plan because you don't actually own the phone yet).
With that said, I will answer the original question -
It is not illegal to install a custom ROM on your phone if you own the phone. However, there are two points to consider - firstly, do you actually own the phone or does your carrier? Secondly, if it includes Google Apps, it is illegal. CyanogenMod project had to remove Google Apps from their ROM's some time ago because of a license breach (the OEM's have to pay Google to release a phone with Google Apps preinstalled).
So the only 100% legal ROM is Cyanogenmod without Google Apps, or your own AOSP compilation without Google Apps. So obviously, Google and the OEM's don't care too much about custom ROM's - because techically, 90% of them have actually broken the law somewhere. It's just not worth their time to enforce these laws, especially since these devices we buy usually have Google Apps pre-loaded already (so it's a legal grey area really, they can't prove anything in the end).
Short info..i don't write any software for XDA. I am from a company who pays for work.
Guys/girls i am a bit worried, if SOPA passes can it shut down xda? (given the amount of attachments here)
I wouldnt like that to happen..
No, nothing on xda is illegal and xda are quick to stop any threads that tread on such territory.
Dave
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i can die happy now
mistermentality said:
No, nothing on xda is illegal and xda are quick to stop any threads that tread on such territory.
Dave
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Are you sure about that? I know reverse engineering a patented device in attempts to alter or improve it, even for one's own personal use, is illegal..found that out while modding xboxes, They even made ebay monitor xbox listings and any xbox that was REMOTELY hinted at being modded was pulled down..I even saw closed auctions get force-refunded and users banned! would that not apply to windows phones with modded roms etc? Publishing the stock roms from devices like WP7 phones (Microsoft after all is not open source like Google, and they tend to care about security and patents more), that wouldn't get someone at some alphabet agency who didn't know the ins and outs of the community to jump to conclusions?
I would hope they wouldn't, but I think a vague assurance that there is 'nothing illegal' here is a little light on legal defense..
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No, nothing on xda is illegal and xda are quick to stop any threads that tread on such territory.
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Are you sure? Can you tell me with 100% certainty that there isn't in this very moment a post on the forums with an attachment or a link to something shady? I could name more than one post actually: All those links to leaked ROMs for example. Companies could very well claim copyright infringement on that. And if they did, it'd mean bye, bye XDA. That's why fighting SOPA is so important.
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Are you sure? Can you tell me with 100% certainty that there isn't in this very moment a post on the forums with an attachment or a link to something shady? I could name more than one post actually: All those links to leaked ROMs for example. Companies could very well claim copyright infringement on that. And if they did, it'd mean bye, bye XDA. That's why fighting SOPA is so important.
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That is exactly whats frigtening me.
NOTICE before a hot headed moderator tries to close this, this is NOT A POLITICAL thread and thus violating the forum rules (and no offence for hot headed either)
Merci beaucoup
They can't shut xda down because the roms are open source and so leaked or not are still legal, the mods always terminate threads about anything illegal.
If illegal data were on xda the law in most countries is that xda would be asked to remove that content as has happened on other sites and given that xda are not into piracy they would likely remove said content.
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luna_c666 said:
Are you sure about that? I know reverse engineering a patented device in attempts to alter or improve it, even for one's own personal use, is illegal..found that out while modding xboxes...
I would hope they wouldn't, but I think a vague assurance that there is 'nothing illegal' here is a little light on legal defense..
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Modiified xboxes are illegal because they facilitate piracy, xda do not reverse engineer patented or closed source devices or systems only open source.
Regarding android roms or links the os is open source, it is not illegal to have even a leaked open source rom.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Modiified xboxes are illegal because they facilitate piracy, xda do not reverse engineer patented or closed source devices or systems only open source.
Regarding android roms or links the os is open source, it is not illegal to have even a leaked open source rom.
Dave
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Does the same apply to the HD2 Windows Phone 7 ROMs ?
I hope that you will stay because you do great job for all of us!
Simple answer is that if the OEMs wanted to push it then they could make us remove all links to custom OEM based roms. Modding parts of these roms do violate copyright rules. Only pure AOSP roms would be allowed. But as we don't host anything here they have let us work. This is the reason No roms are hosted on XDA.
Long has XDA worked with OEMs if they ask then we pull. Make no mistake they know full well what is done here.
http://gizmodo.com/5880930/only-ten-days-remain-to-keep-jailbreaking-legal
Thoughts? First I've heard of the issue coming back up.
http://www.xda-developers.com/featu...ilbreaking-will-expire-eff-wants-to-renew-it/
Identical topics are identical.
Well if you jailbreak it now, you can keep it jailbroken after without being illegal. Prospectivity is a great thing
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its my device. i deserve the right to do what i want with it. i believe in a person's right to try possibly stupid things as long as it doesn't deny another of their rights. rooting doesn't deny anyone anything. therefore i don't see any good reason why it should be illegal.
According to the thread title we can forget all about this since it's never gonna happen
Surely it can't apply to open source such as android but only closed source such as ios wp7 etcetera?
Dave
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Yeah that
thezombiehunter said:
its my device. i deserve the right to do what i want with it. i believe in a person's right to try possibly stupid things as long as it doesn't deny another of their rights. rooting doesn't deny anyone anything. therefore i don't see any good reason why it should be illegal.
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AMEN
-Tyler Debel
Btw, my iPhone, my ipod touch is MY DEVICE. I don't give a **** to what they want.. do what you want with your device but don't anoye me
I never get anything like this... Its your device, you bought it so you should be able to do whatever you want with it... I hope it doesn't go through cuz that would be freggin stupid.
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It will never pass, but if it does, then I'd just download new roms and rooting tools through TOR browser. I mean, Its my phone I bought it, I can do what I want. I am paying AT&T to let them wet their beaks, they should be content.
Danmanlott said:
It will never pass, but if it does, then I'd just download new roms and rooting tools through TOR browser. I mean, Its my phone I bought it, I can do what I want. I am paying AT&T to let them wet their beaks, they should be content.
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Your right the phone is yours but your only licencing to use the software. There is a huge difference.
I don't see any reason why this won't get extended. Jailbreaking's kind of 'a thing' culturally, imo.
JerleMinara said:
I don't see any reason why this won't get extended. Jailbreaking's kind of 'a thing' culturally, imo.
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Apple likes complete controls and by the terms you agree to it does technically break the tos we all agree to when use an OS. Just because its popular doesn't make it legal. While some OS do look the other way apple will not. Never have and never will
And that is why apple has earned the ire of many geeks and nerds of this generation. They are as reviled as Microsoft was, a decade before. They'll learn once those who they depend on for support, i.e. their customers, abandon them. Some sooner, some later, some never, but they will feel pain in the only place it counts, their pocketbook. Perhaps then, they can reevaluate their attitude toward their customers and the public in general.
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Your right the phone is yours but your only licencing to use the software. There is a huge difference.
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GPL says you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you post the source code if you distribute it. There's no legal grounds for legally blocking rooting Android devices, but Apple would be pleased as punch to have iOS jailbreaking become a violation of the DMCA again.
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GPL says you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you post the source code if you distribute it. There's no legal grounds for legally blocking rooting Android devices, but Apple would be pleased as punch to have iOS jailbreaking become a violation of the DMCA again.
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GPL only covers the kernel not the OS
The Library of Congress has ruled that the DMCA jailbreak exemption it's granting for smartphones will not apply to tablets. They are also not granting a DMCA unlock exemption for phones purchased after January 2013. Carrier permission will be required to legally unlock those phones. The new DMCA exemption rulings go into effect on October 28 and will last three years.
Source: Library of Congress
Via: Timothy B. Lee (Ars Technica)
I find this incredibly arbitrary and nonsensical. Will this make it legal to root a Galaxy S phone but not a Galaxy Player, or to jailbreak an iPhone but not an iPod touch? What about phablets like the Galaxy Note, phones like the Asus Padfone which dock into a tablet shell, or tablets that can make standard voice calls (international 7" Galaxy tab)? When carriers implement voice over LTE, regular voice calls will be done over IP. What then will be the distinction between a phone and a tablet or media player with a VOIP app?
This is ridiculous.
Jailbreaking is different from rooting. I think we should be safe
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Relevant text from the ruling
37 CFR Part 201 said:
Wireless telephone handsets – software interoperability
Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to
execute lawfully obtained software applications, where
circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling
interoperability of such applications with computer programs
on the telephone handset.
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More info: pages 12-16 of source link
37 CFR Part 201 said:
Wireless telephone handsets – interoperability with alternative
networks
Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that
enable a wireless telephone handset originally acquired from
the operator of a wireless telecommunications network or
retailer no later than ninety days after the effective date of this
exemption to connect to a different wireless
telecommunications network, if the operator of the wireless
communications network to which the handset is locked has
failed to unlock it within a reasonable period of time following
a request by the owner of the wireless telephone handset, and
when circumvention is initiated by the owner, an individual
consumer, who is also the owner of the copy of the computer
program in such wireless telephone handset, solely in order to
connect to a different wireless telecommunications network,
and such access to the network is authorized by the operator of
the network.
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gagdude said:
Jailbreaking is different from rooting. I think we should be safe
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The ruling does appear to apply to rooting as well as jailbreaking, judging by a response the EFF made during the comment period. http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2012/responses/eff_response_letter_regarding_exemption_5.pdf
As you can see in the above post, the actual text of the exemption doesn't use the term "jailbreak."
Jailbreaking and rooting is one and the same thing, however those guys do not know s**t about tech I guess.
Not allowing unlocking of phones is not cool, now companies can sue devs who create softwares to unlock cell phones, maybe even carriers pitch in and not allow you to run an unlocked tmo gs3 on at&t, this is BS, it's my device people, I can do what I want to ....
No need to worry.
We don't use ITunes.
They are their worse enemies.
How many people knew about mp3's until they went after Napster in a public way? The vast majority of Iphone users have no idea what Jailbreak means but they will soon:laugh:
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No need to worry.
We don't use ITunes.
They are their worse enemies.
How many people knew about mp3's until they went after Napster in a public way? The vast majority of Iphone users have no idea what Jailbreak means but they will soon:laugh:
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The ruling affects rooting on Android. It isn't iOS specific and has nothing to do with iTunes.
Does this mean that Android sites will have to stop posting articles on how to root tablets? Will discussions about rooting Android tablets become verboten on the forums soon?
First of all, I already had a thread about this.
Anyway, if there is a Mod reading this, will xda stop talking about rooting tablets soon?
Jailbreak does not equal root. We don't need to worry but if you own and iPad you're screwed
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First of all, I already had a thread about this.
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This thread was posted 17 hours and 48 minutes before yours.
gagdude said:
Jailbreak does not equal root. We don't need to worry but if you own and iPad you're screwed
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Did you read the actual text of the ruling that I quoted in my second post and think about carrier and manufacturer modifications that can lock an Android device down?
Slinkwyde said:
This thread was posted 17 hours and 48 minutes before yours.
Did you read the actual text of the ruling that I quoted in my second post and think about carrier and manufacturer modifications that can lock an Android device down?
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Dude I don't care, jailbreaking and rooting are different things, so different in fact that if they say doing x to a product is illegal that the x does not also apply to the other form of hacking on the other OS
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What about circumventing locked bootloaders to load a custom ROM?
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What about circumventing locked bootloaders to load a custom ROM?
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OK, but remember when iPod touches were first coming out and people were jailbreaking them anyways? And everyone was just like "no ones gonna catch us."
Well same situation. Give the finger to the government and root and jailbreak anyways
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That's what most of us will do. Any Android device I get will be rooted.
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gagdude said:
OK, but remember when iPod touches were first coming out and people were jailbreaking them anyways? And everyone was just like "no ones gonna catch us."
Well same situation. Give the finger to the government and root and jailbreak anyways
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I doubt it will actually stop many people jailbreaking. A few devs might not be so forthright about what they have made etc, but I doubt too much will happen.
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vizzy said:
I doubt it will actually stop many people jailbreaking. A few devs might not be so forthright about what they have made etc, but I doubt too much will happen.
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Maybe -
But what will happen to XDA? What about cellunlocker.net and services like that?
I gotta say, I'm worried.
From what I understand is just the carriers cring about people messing with radios and getting sim unlocks without them getting profit(unlock codes). So I guess rooting and costom Roma should be fine, but no s-off, radios.
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Jailbreaking is practically the same thing as rooting. Both involve granting r/w access to a partition that was not intended to be overwritten from factory.
I think it is time to for xda to go underground and start to not give crap about legality!
Good news for those exporting stock unlocked devices I suppose.