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Malware: part of guide in featured thread

It is easy as 123 it appears to get an infection with Zugo malware using the Captivate forum: just follow the supersized link to the guide in the Captivate General forum article The Samsung Captivate Guide: ECLAIR 2.1. That brings you to a "multiupload.com" site. Then click on the download button marked with a flashing green arrow. Microsoft Security Essentials catches this one. The malicious file is named something linke WhiteSm...9118_en.exe.
Why do xda-developers allow a featured guide to be embedded into an executable? A guide should be in text/html format. Stuffing it into one of these download sites is particularly suspicious from the outset.
And how are users of this site in general protected against keystroke loggers and other malicious software that is oh-so-easy to distribute with the various hacks offered here?

If you had any downloading experience at all, you would know that the link you clicked is a spam/ad link. So don't blame xda, blame yourself. There's many disclaimers stating that what YOU DO is not ANYBODY ELSES fault.
So read, research, and close this thread.

x50vFiascoToBeauty said:
It is easy as 123 it appears to get an infection with Zugo malware using the Captivate forum: just follow the supersized link to the guide in the Captivate General forum article The Samsung Captivate Guide: ECLAIR 2.1. That brings you to a "multiupload.com" site. Then click on the download button marked with a flashing green arrow. Microsoft Security Essentials catches this one. The malicious file is named something linke WhiteSm...9118_en.exe.
Why do xda-developers allow a featured guide to be embedded into an executable? A guide should be in text/html format. Stuffing it into one of these download sites is particularly suspicious from the outset.
And how are users of this site in general protected against keystroke loggers and other malicious software that is oh-so-easy to distribute with the various hacks offered here?
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First of all I create that guide, hundreds of people have used it, and I highly doubt anyone clicked on a ADVERTISEMENT and thought it was the actual guide. The links are below that. The ad is something that I have no control over. Almost all hosting websites have those malware ads.

If you read the thread you would know it's in pdf format. First mistake, not reading. Second mistake is to blame xda for your first. Then you didn't read the page you took the shot of. Chose a site to download from.

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If you read the thread you would know it's in pdf format. First mistake, not reading.
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You're cynically defending the Russian gangsters who are running these sites --- they are designed to rob people's computers and bank accounts.
The particular deception in play here is very easy to fall for.
That's your mistake #1: to think that anyone but the most advanced user is able to figure out that the file should be an unwrapped PDF file or whatever. There is no mention in the post that the file is in PDF format. The thread has 132 contributions, yeah, average Joe has to read 'em all, right? (And yes the second mentions that there's a pdf file involved but not whether it is embedded in some archive or what do I know).
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Second mistake is to blame xda for your first.
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Your mistake #2: to think that it is entirely appropriate that average Joe should suffer the mafia taking over his computer just because Joe wants to peruse the freaking beginner's manual in a promoted thread.
nbs11, a co-author or author of this piece, is in all likelihood a good guy and is perhaps earning a little extra bucks by hosting on this crime sharing site. But I don't know him and I don't know his reasons for not sharing his knowledge in the wiki or in other ways that don't lead to entrapment. I would like him better if he didn't.
A lot of ethically challenged people hang around here: recommendations for how to commit insurance fraud, warranty fraud, etc. Should there there be any line at all Boborone? Or is this just the gangster's nest you defend?
In any case, I hope this thread is useful to others. Beware, yes, I do agree with others who responded in that vein. Thanks.

Lol, oh my God, this is retarded.
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There is no mention in the post that the file is in PDF format.
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Now go back and read the FIRST RESPONSE IN THAT THREAD!

x50vFiascoToBeauty said:
It is easy as 123 it appears to get an infection with Zugo malware using the Captivate forum: just follow the supersized link to the guide in the Captivate General forum article The Samsung Captivate Guide: ECLAIR 2.1. That brings you to a "multiupload.com" site. Then click on the download button marked with a flashing green arrow. Microsoft Security Essentials catches this one. The malicious file is named something linke WhiteSm...9118_en.exe.
Why do xda-developers allow a featured guide to be embedded into an executable? A guide should be in text/html format. Stuffing it into one of these download sites is particularly suspicious from the outset.
And how are users of this site in general protected against keystroke loggers and other malicious software that is oh-so-easy to distribute with the various hacks offered here?
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That's funny. For someone so inclined to feel the need to 'warn' others about download sites, you sure dont know the first thing about browsing the internet do ya? This magical 'malware' link you see is only seen when you arent using a proper browser or taking advantage of adblocking.... thats YOUR mistake, dont blame xda. There are a lot of members at XDA that have never seen that AD, thanks to running better OSes and/or Browsers. I have personally never seen it until I loaded up that link in IE with adblock disabled....holy crap! it looks like every other software download site!! stop the freakin presses!! have you ever tried to go and download legitimate software from companies? ever had a link to some file downloading site that they are partnered with that has those fake download buttons? they are literally EVERYWHERE!
here you go: respected site with a respected piece of software to download.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/Defraggler.shtml
find the download link....but dont blame xda when you click on the wrong one.
x50vFiascoToBeauty said:
You're cynically defending the Russian gangsters who are running these sites --- they are designed to rob people's computers and bank accounts.
The particular deception in play here is very easy to fall for.
That's your mistake #1: to think that anyone but the most advanced user is able to figure out that the file should be an unwrapped PDF file or whatever. There is no mention in the post that the file is in PDF format. The thread has 132 contributions, yeah, average Joe has to read 'em all, right? (And yes the second mentions that there's a pdf file involved but not whether it is embedded in some archive or what do I know).
Your mistake #2: to think that it is entirely appropriate that average Joe should suffer the mafia taking over his computer just because Joe wants to peruse the freaking beginner's manual in a promoted thread.
nbs11, a co-author or author of this piece, is in all likelihood a good guy and is perhaps earning a little extra bucks by hosting on this crime sharing site. But I don't know him and I don't know his reasons for not sharing his knowledge in the wiki or in other ways that don't lead to entrapment. I would like him better if he didn't.
A lot of ethically challenged people hang around here: recommendations for how to commit insurance fraud, warranty fraud, etc. Should there there be any line at all Boborone? Or is this just the gangster's nest you defend?
In any case, I hope this thread is useful to others. Beware, yes, I do agree with others who responded in that vein. Thanks.
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I LOL'd so hard at this its not even funny, dude. You are absolutely correct!
XDA, we've been had, burn the books and leave no trace that we were ever here, they're onto us! They have found out our Russian overlords are behind this whole operation! Quick! Into hiding!
honestly, if you are messing with potentially breaking a $500 phone, wouldnt it be worth a little bit of time to read and understand what the heck you are doing?
would you try and operate a crane without some knowledge?
would you try to fly an airplane without proper instruction and knowledge?
a computer is a machine, very powerful in some peoples hands. why do people insist on operating one by the seat of their pants with a complete lack of understanding or even some common freakin sense? dont blame the webites you browse for your inability to use common sense.

I call troll.
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xredjokerx said:
I call troll.
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I call OP an idiot.

miztaken1312 said:
I call OP an idiot.
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I have gas.
Oh, and of course OP is an idiot.

xredjokerx said:
I call troll.
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Anyone that can't tell the real download button from an ad, well, gets what they deserve.

xredjokerx said:
I call troll.
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And a ejookated smart 1 2.

[Q] IMEI switching, Good or Bad?

It has recently come to my attention that a few people are upset at the actions I took to get the threads closed which told you how to change your IMEI number.
The way I understand it is that Changing your IMEI is illegal in most countries. So I asked a mod if this knid of thing was allowed on XDA developers. The moderation team closed the thread, not me. They decided it was not suitable.
So I'm curious to know what the general opinion on this matter is.
And rather than me receive PM's from people making personal attacks I thought it would be better to discuss in public.
Please let me know your thoughts

cjward23 said:
It has recently come to my attention that a few people are upset at the actions I took to get the threads closed which told you how to change your IMEI number.
The way I understand it is that Changing your IMEI is illegal in most countries. So I asked a mod if this knid of thing was allowed on XDA developers. The moderation team closed the thread, not me. They decided it was not suitable.
So I'm curious to know what the general opinion on this matter is.
And rather than me receive PM's from people making personal attacks I thought it would be better to discuss in public.
Please let me know your thoughts
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Share the trick dude!
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hamedunix said:
Share the trick dude!
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You are asking Cjward to participate in an illegal activity.
IMEIs allows phones to be rendered useless if the phone is reported stolen. Sharing "the trick" of changing IMEIs not only promotes theft of Android phones, but it is illegal in some countries.It would allow the possibility of getting XDA in trouble if such information was posted here and we don't want that.

cjward23 said:
It has recently come to my attention that a few people are upset at the actions I took to get the threads closed which told you how to change your IMEI number.
The way I understand it is that Changing your IMEI is illegal in most countries. So I asked a mod if this knid of thing was allowed on XDA developers. The moderation team closed the thread, not me. They decided it was not suitable.
So I'm curious to know what the general opinion on this matter is.
And rather than me receive PM's from people making personal attacks I thought it would be better to discuss in public.
Please let me know your thoughts
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I guess one of those people would be me. It was not meant as a personal attack. I'll just repost what I said before on another thread so there are no confisions:
Some guy thread about imei unlocking got closed and locked in the general section. This has nothing to do with this rom, but i can't reply there. So here are my thoughts.
The action may be ilegal, but the information itself isn't. You are ultimately responsible for what you do with it.
There are lots of examples throughout History about information limiting for "the good of the people". Usually ends up with book burning.
Another example: I'm pretty sure that in my country it's illegal to record calls without the consent of the other party. The should I take out 2 way call recording from the kernel, and should xda delete all info on this site on how to do it?
What about the google apps we all include in our custom roms? There's a reason CM7 does not include them. It's illegal. Should xda remove all threads and roms that do not comply?
I'm sorry for the rambling, but i enjoy my freedom, and selfrighteous actions like these make my blood go hot.
Peace
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After this there were more examples on illegal stuff we do around here. If anyone actually reads the HTC terms of service, pretty much everything we do with sense roms is illegal. The point is, information should not be limited. Here's a drastic example:
The best way to kill someone fast: shoot him on the head.
Am I condoning murder? Will that line be edited bi mods?
Ridiculous example of course, but the line of reasoning is the same.
Peace.
This is not meant to start a flame war, or pose as a personal attack on anyone.

@lowveld
It wasn't you, I received 2 PM's and one of them wasn't very nice.
I'm very intrested to see what the general consensus is on this matter.
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There are quite a few of examples there. Some that are irrelevant, some that you are right (HTC example), but since HTC has not acted on XDA, and most likely have used developer's fixes I assume they are fine with it because they are not making a profit and it is beneficial to them. As for the call recorder one...Well you could just use it legally...I mean I can't see how changing your IMEI is legal in any way.

Cimer said:
There are quite a few of examples there. Some that are irrelevant, some that you are right (HTC example), but since HTC has not acted on XDA, and most likely has used developer's fixes I assume they are fine with it. As for the call recorder one...Well you could just use it legally...I mean I can't see how changing your IMEI is legal in any way.
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I would also like to know what effort someone could get from in it legal matters.
When I understand it the right way there is none except the possibility to mask a stolen phone.
Swyped from my Desire S

Don't You think that knowledge of how to do such a "trick" can encourage theft and sale/use of stolen goods? It's like sharing info about how to steal a car and what to do next to make it "legal" again for further sale.
You guys must be really thick to refuse to understand that:
1. It is illegal
2. Wast majority of our community is against it
3. This is xda developers, not xda thieves guild

Please provide links to laws cant find anything about it
Cimer said:
You are asking Cjward to participate in an illegal activity.
IMEIs allows phones to be rendered useless if the phone is reported stolen. Sharing "the trick" of changing IMEIs not only promotes theft of Android phones, but it is illegal in some countries.It would allow the possibility of getting XDA in trouble if such information was posted here and we don't want that.
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Cimer said:
There are quite a few of examples there. Some that are irrelevant, some that you are right (HTC example), but since HTC has not acted on XDA, and most likely have used developer's fixes I assume they are fine with it because they are not making a profit and it is beneficial to them. As for the call recorder one...Well you could just use it legally...I mean I can't see how changing your IMEI is legal in any way.
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A few years back I had a Asus P527, windows mobile device. Due to some flashing issues, me and a coupe of dozen other users ended up with the same (default) IMEI. At the time, a service provider from India threatened to cut out service to anyone in that situation. So I figured out how to change the IMEI in that situation, and all was well. But it was still illegal in strict definitions.
But the example is pointless, and the discussion is pointless if you're making points like "HTC has not acted" and "is most likely fine". That does not bear any impact whatsoever on the legality of the action.
And what you find "not relevant" was not meant as a actual real life example, but what in mathematics is referred as "reduction to absurdity". Apply the same set of rules to a different situation with the same premises, and you see the ridicule in the rules themselves.
Cheers
And I'm through with this. Peace.

Nothing more to say ..!!!
lowveld said:
A few years back I had a Asus P527, windows mobile device. Due to some flashing issues, me and a coupe of dozen other users ended up with the same (default) IMEI. At the time, a service provider from India threatened to cut out service to anyone in that situation. So I figured out how to change the IMEI in that situation, and all was well. But it was still illegal in strict definitions.
But the example is pointless, and the discussion is pointless if you're making points like "HTC has not acted" and "is most likely fine". That does not bear any impact whatsoever on the legality of the action.
And what you find "not relevant" was not meant as a actual real life example, but what in mathematics is referred as "reduction to absurdity". Apply the same set of rules to a different situation with the same premises, and you see the ridicule in the rules themselves.
Cheers
And I'm through with this. Peace.
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Just mind your own threads next time.
Destroyer
The trick is on my site PERMANENT
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hey, cjward did what he thought was correct. DON'T GO AGAINST HIM, JUST BECAUSE HE REPORTED SOMETHING HE FELT WAS WRONG. HE IS, IN ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, AT FAULT. Even though i feel that information should be shared without any problems, and brokenworm's thread shouldn't have been deleted, i feel sad that people are flaming cjward. I completely agree with lowveld.

Got to admit when I first saw this posted, I actually questioned to myself whether or not this would be useful or not.
Unfortunately the reasons I had come up with as to why this could be useful, were not in a lawful manner. I thought about this further, came up with the idea again except expanded but with more self-justification. I've given up on the idea in a whole.
Unfortunately I feel that the information should be there, but the associated information pertaining to the relevant law(s) and legal ramifications boldly displayed with what it obviously should and shouldn't be used for, should said distribution of information.
I have to disagree with the way brokenworm is going about this though, immature in the least.

Technically, good.
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Dont flame the proud policeman?
shrome99 said:
hey, cjward did what he thought was correct. DON'T GO AGAINST HIM, JUST BECAUSE HE REPORTED SOMETHING HE FELT WAS WRONG. HE IS, IN ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, AT FAULT. Even though i feel that information should be shared without any problems, and brokenworm's thread shouldn't have been deleted, i feel sad that people are flaming cjward. I completely agree with lowveld.
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In my opinion I think it's bad ;( why? Becoz it's 1 of the unique information to identify who owns the phone by looking at the IMEI, so if a thief knows how to do this he can modify the IMEI so no one will know if the phone was stolen.
Just my little opinion peace!
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i have a question, probably noobish one but would apreciate any response. what is the benefit of changing the imei? why would we want/need to do it? i guess it's like changing the mac adress of a nic but in this case i know what the benefits are but do not find them relevant in the case of the imei. sorry for the question if it's not apropriate..

xxmorph3u5xx said:
i have a question, probably noobish one but would apreciate any response. what is the benefit of changing the imei? why would we want/need to do it? i guess it's like changing the mac adress of a nic but in this case i know what the benefits are but do not find them relevant in the case of the imei. sorry for the question if it's not apropriate..
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Unless you are a theif, drug dealer, pimp, fraudster, terrorist or politician you will probably never have a reason to change your phones IMEI number.
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cjward23 said:
Unless you are a theif, drug dealer, pimp, fraudster, terrorist or politician you will probably never have a reason to change your phones IMEI number.
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Thank you CJ. You hit rock bottom there. I actually considered you an even minded guy, but generalizations like that kind of prove me wrong.
Fu**, I even told you that I had done it before, so in what way is this not a personal attack? Care to tell me what you think I am? Thief? Rapist?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579741

Alert: Rooting to become illegal activity.

Don't know what happened... but my alert was put into Q&A even though it's not a question.
Sorry, for the cross-posting... but this issue is very important to all of us who care about rooting/modifying our devices. We may soon lose the legal exemption to do that.
UPDATE: I see that xda-dev has an article in its main portal page...

Bumping this until Feb. 10...
when no one will be able to affect the situation...

TRIED the website but it must be having some issues. Thanks Geek for the heads up. What a freakin joke. Utter and total BS. Imagine if the government tried to tell people that they couldn't modify there car? I'll try to find a better link to the petition.

Before everyone gets hyped:
It's a little bit complicated. First off, the Federal Government (namely a member of Congress) would have to care enough to push for a law to be passed. Another thing that could happen is that there could be an Agency regulation that specifically prohibits rooting. However for that to happen, they have to authority to be able to enforce it.
As long as you are not reverse engineering, you are not breaking any U.S. law. This exemption that is expiring only clarified a defense to a law that does not exist, meaning that we specifically stated that rooting was not a crime, while there was no law stating that modification was a crime. It is a very vague, legal gray area. It's a lot like gun laws- things are not settled until they are tried in court.
So hopefully it gets renewed.

finch8423 said:
Before everyone gets hyped:
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Too late. Getting hyped is a prerequisite for being a member of xda-dev.
finch8423 said:
It's a little bit complicated. First off, the Federal Government (namely a member of Congress) would have to care enough to push for a law to be passed. Another thing that could happen is that there could be an Agency regulation that specifically prohibits rooting. However for that to happen, they have to authority to be able to enforce it.
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I agree that it is complicated. But, according to EFF: Some device manufacturers claim that jailbreaking violates Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which carries stiff penalties.​there is already such a law. Granted, there has not been a court case, yet, testing that law. But it is on the books.
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As long as you are not reverse engineering, you are not breaking any U.S. law. This exemption that is expiring only clarified a defense to a law that does not exist, meaning that we specifically stated that rooting was not a crime, while there was no law stating that modification was a crime. It is a very vague, legal gray area. It's a lot like gun laws- things are not settled until they are tried in court.
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Well, you may wish to read, specifically, about Section 1201 of the DMCA. It is false comfort to think that a law does not exist... it does exist. The wikipedia article on the DMCA has a good discussion. If you are more of a legal geek, then the government provides congressional report 105-796 and a summary on the internet. For information on how institutions of learning can be affected, EDUCAUSE addresses the issue on its site.
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The whole point of creating this thread. To help ensure that it is renewed.

A bull****, nothing more. It is my property and I do with it what I want. They can only affect my warrenty. They can only do something if its a carrier branded and you don't buy for full price . Then device is still a carrier property
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This country is already broke (not only financially, but also morally -- but that's an entirely different discussion), how will they go about actually enforcing this law? I know that phone companies can gather a lot of information about your phone remotely, but can they tell whether your phone is rooted or not?

I'm not trying to be pompous, so I apologize if I came off like that. I completely agree with you.
They can claim all they want. It's important for everyone to know that if it comes to that, there is no specific law addressing this, only claims under the DMCA.
In my legal opinion, root privileges can hardly be misconstrued as copyright infringement. It's mainly Macintosh that is pushing this though- they claim that jailbreaking is illegal because of the close-source nature of their products (It's also ironic to note that many of the working conditions of their factories would be considered illegal in every country that they sell their products in).

Well macintosh and... recently, ASUS, right? and one other... last summer, but I can't recall who right now.
Let's just say... for sake of argument that carriers sign agreements with manufacturerers (when, in fact, they're different companies)... that require them to deny service to "rooted" devices based on the law... or maybe not the law... but their collective interpretation of the law...

Honestly...
Ndaa, sopa, pipa... Now this???
Dammit my m4 is getting put to use soon isn't it??
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^ add ACTA to that list.
Sent from my SGS 4G.

You do realize that google gave us source, and samsung gave us source, and they both stated that "THIS CAN BE USED FOR "ENRICHMENT" OF YOUR PHONE" google android is 100% free. Even if it expired, it wouldn't effect us. Whoever the fool that initially stated that rooting will go away is false.

As ACTA is *****. My country accepted it, **** them
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gefilus said:
As ACTA is *****. My country accepted it, **** them
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Damn... is your town as beautiful in person as it looks in pictures? I had to look it up to see where the hell you lived

Watch profile and will see where I live
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airfluip1 said:
You do realize that google gave us source, and samsung gave us source, and they both stated that "THIS CAN BE USED FOR "ENRICHMENT" OF YOUR PHONE" google android is 100% free. Even if it expired, it wouldn't effect us. Whoever the fool that initially stated that rooting will go away is false.
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Are you suggesting that EFF doesn't know what the hell they are talking about?
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Maybe. Just ask Google.
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We might not be talking apples to apples...
I know apple has fought their phones being jail broken. But isn't it the carriers who really have the problem with it? They want to make you buy their network specific phone from them?

They can only put this law if there is one only on devices which are carrier branded. On unlocked or unbramded devices they can't do the ****. It is in my proparty and take you hand of from it, I can do with my device what I want
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lumin30 said:
Damn... is your town as beautiful in person as it looks in pictures? I had to look it up to see where the hell you lived
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Mostly and almost the same like in pictures. And ye waterfall is or mark
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Wares???

I don't think I am firmly grasping the concept of what wares is because I received an infraction for posting wares, when it clearly was not!
I have been pm'ing a senior moderator and he feels other wise. Moderator stated that the link I posted was in fact warez. It was a link for PlayStation 1 roms at freeroms.com.
All roms are free, and thats a fact! You can go to emupatadise.me and get free roms. just like all of the other roms sites.
So, can someone explain how this was wares?
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You're getting something for free, where the company SELLS the stuff.

Lets take the mupen64(N64) emulator for example. In the market, it states, "THIS APP DOES NOT COME WITH ROMS. 99¢ IS FOR DONATIONS ONLY. This app is free to download on my website(I left the link out)." No royalties are going to Nintendo. Who are the makers and founders of the "Nintendo" 64. Its open source. As well as the roms/iso's. As long as you own the game(s), it is not illegal.
So would these emulators in the market that are not kicking back royalties to the makers be considered piracy? No sir.
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You realize though, by giving away those ROMs you're taking money that nintendo could of had by people buying them.
It's illegal to download ROMs unless you have a physical copy of the game.

Was this seriously asked?
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Dear OP,
On XDA there is a set of rules that state no wares or piracy material should be posted, linked to or mentioned so that no one is insulted, sued or damaged in any way. Your post was neglected from XDA because it COULD lead to piracy. A ROM file is clearly a copy of an original product that was at one point in time sold and profited from by the producer, but since these files are available freely then they can be downloaded by anyone with internet access and therefore if Joe Blow happens to Google "rom Nintendo 64 game blah blah blah" then XDA can pop up as a result and your post shows up. All this connects XDA with the downloading of ROM images that can be illegal depending on the person downloading such file. So my point is, it doesn't matter if its illegal or not to post a link, it matter if the outcome of posting that link on this forum (were technically we are already going against some sort of guideline aka: custom ROMS, hacks ect.) will inflict on the equilibrium of such. Your post was not harmful, but really who owns a hardware copy of every Nintendo or Playstation game that is available for download on those sites?
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missaellpzchvz said:
Dear OP,
On XDA there is a set of rules that state no wares or piracy material should be posted, linked to or mentioned so that no one is insulted, sued or damaged in any way. Your post was neglected from XDA because it COULD lead to piracy. A ROM file is clearly a copy of an original product that was at one point in time sold and profited from by the producer, but since these files are available freely then they can be downloaded by anyone with internet access and therefore if Joe Blow happens to Google "rom Nintendo 64 game blah blah blah" then XDA can pop up as a result and your post shows up. All this connects XDA with the downloading of ROM images that can be illegal depending on the person downloading such file. So my point is, it doesn't matter if its illegal or not to post a link, it matter if the outcome of posting that link on this forum (were technically we are already going against some sort of guideline aka: custom ROMS, hacks ect.) will inflict on the equilibrium of such. Your post was not harmful, but really who owns a hardware copy of every Nintendo or Playstation game that is available for download on those sites?
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All of these phone ROMs and hacks are open source and as long as you respect the GPL and provide the source you used you are not breaking any guidelines.
But yes, emulator ROMs are not allowed here.

IRASadPanda said:
All of these phone ROMs and hacks are open source and as long as you respect the GPL and provide the source you used you are not breaking any guidelines.
But yes, emulator ROMs are not allowed here.
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Correct. Just trying to make a point. don't get the panda mad...
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missaellpzchvz said:
Correct. Just trying to make a point. don't get the panda mad...
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Haha, I won't get mad as long as there is nothing for me to get mad at
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Anyone wanna join #Release the Source

The announcement of the O2x receiving an ISC OTA in the 2nd quarter ( anyone really believe that ) will probably be the end of support for our phones . Well this is my last stand to get the source to our devs please join her just copy #Releasethesource and paste here
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=334420639902596
Update I've been blocked from leaving comments

Thanks guys

Release source from nvidia? Sorry, but won't happen. They already said they wouldn't be part of open source, but if the O2X gets ICS, we get it too (by porting and whatnot).
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It hurts to try I guess...

newnoobkid said:
The announcement of the O2x receiving an ISC OTA in the 2nd quarter ( anyone really believe that ) will probably be the end of support for our phones . Well this is my last stand to get the source to our devs please join her just copy #Releasethesource and paste here
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=334420639902596
Update I've been blocked from leaving comments
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that's because you spammed them with too many comments
newnoobkid said:
It hurts to try I guess...
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don't you mean it doesn't hurt to try?
and no it doesn't, but like stated above, nvidia won't release their source code, no matter how much we ask

The only method that may work is for a company which litigates against NVIDIA for patent or intellectual property infringement. The litigation may force disclosure of source code but, if it does, the documents will probably be sealed by the court so that only the litigant(s) will have access.

Core Memory said:
The only method that may work is for a company which litigates against NVIDIA for patent or intellectual property infringement. The litigation may force disclosure of source code but, if it does, the documents will probably be sealed by the court so that only the litigant(s) will have access.
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What you talking bout Willis?

newnoobkid said:
What you talking bout Willis?
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Reread it, makes perfect sense.
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newnoobkid said:
What you talking bout Willis?
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Basically, say a partner of LG can't get a part to work with the G3x, and its because they dont have access to drivers. They go to court with nvidia, nvidia shares source code with said company, and that's where it ends. Said company wouldn't be allowed to share with the public, unless granted permission by nvidia, which WON'T happen.
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Or Google could bring litigation against nvidia or better yet LG. Since nvidia said it would be LG that would release the HAL and that they shouldn't. For violating open source.

r.snyder said:
Or Google could bring litigation against nvidia or better yet LG. Since nvidia said it would be LG that would release the HAL and that they shouldn't. For violating open source.
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So who should I beg?

newnoobkid said:
So who should I beg?
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Apparently no one. Nvidia/LG want the benefits of open source but want to keep anything nvidia makes proprietary.

Anyone feel like explaining how the whole binary blob thing bypasses open source rules?
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newnoobkid said:
So who should I beg?
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Just stop trying, its not gonna work. Understand that.
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