There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
Not to sure if this has been posted or not.
This is very disturbing...anything to get info on people..
I don't install antiviruses on my phone,because android is based on linux, and linux doesn't have viruses because of the strong kernel, plus its semi possible that you will have a virus on your phone.:thumbup:
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Octane70 said:
There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
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Its not a new threat, lookouts announcement of it was in 2010 and in 2011 it was picked up by more press but is actually a two year old threat which afaik never did cause any problems but is checked for by google and therefore probably other app distributors.
Dave
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I hear Android 5 (JellyBean) includes some kind of in-built malware protection.
Gotta wonder why...
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I hear Android 5 (JellyBean) includes some kind of in-built malware protection.
Gotta wonder why...
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Not heard that, would be surprised if it did as google use bouncer to combat the malware problem.
Dave
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Pancakes_Gio said:
I don't install antiviruses on my phone,because android is based on linux, and linux doesn't have viruses because of the strong kernel, plus its semi possible that you will have a virus on your phone.:thumbup:
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Wrong in many ways, it doesn't have viruses because the market is next to non-existent and getting a virus on an android device is more and more common.
Welp, as they say. Only install from trusted sources and always check the permissions the apps ask for. If you don't want the risk, go buy an Apple product and play by their rules. These are the risks that open-source brings and one that all of us bears in mind when tinkering with such power.
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Wrong in many ways, it doesn't have viruses because the market is next to non-existent and getting a virus on an android device is more and more common.
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Actually linux does have them, see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware for some examples.
Linux has few simply because it tends to get patched quicker. Malware on android devices will increase more this year as its the most used mobile os and so offers more potential victims which makes it a more enticing prospect for hackers.
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That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though. Does the patching have to do with the Linux distro or the kernel? Serious question as I know little about Linux malware and only briefly used Linux.
i know kernels get patched, i think distros do as well.
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If you don't want the risk, go buy an Apple product
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You're joking, right? TLDR: How do you think jailbreaking is possible if Apple is so secure? Indeed, it's the false confidence that comes from them telling users that it's so secure that's precipitated so many of the blunders.
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That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though. Does the patching have to do with the Linux distro or the kernel? Serious question as I know little about Linux malware and only briefly used Linux.
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Kernel gets updated with patches but individual distributions also get system patches or did a few years ago when I last used linux.
I'm curious why you think there's no security built into android, as can be seen at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/security/security.html there are a number of security measures in place.
Dave
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Use your brain for security
All the android malware reports I have ever read are just scare tactics used by various news agencys, blogs, etc to generate more views for their site. Almost all android malware can be avoided by simply being smart with where and what you download. Using iOS doesn't make you safe; downloading well known apps from the play store that only use permissions that are appropriate for its described functionality makes you safe.
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That and there's no real security built-in to android and it's the easiest one to pirate apps on. I personally believe the people trying to get the apps free deserve the viruses though.
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I agree 120% with you, cheating people's hard work will get you burnt!
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Ashmere69 said:
I agree 120% with you, cheating people's hard work will get you burnt!
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Exactly. Buy the app and you don't have to worry about it. Besides, it's not like these apps are fifty bucks each. Pay a couple of dollars and support the ecosyste
I think some of the real culprits to an evil Android is self-awareness on the handset, they always seem to delete and corrupt your stuff before you know it, but yeah, bootlegs are not good at all.
Octane70 said:
There’s a new threat in town. And by town, I mean China. Malware authors have created a bit of code called Geinimi that hitchhikes on existing apps when they are redistributed on third-party markets. At the moment it doesn’t do much but lurk, but its capabilities resemble that of a botnet server, according to Lookout, a company that makes antivirus software for Android.
So far the code has been identified as being able to send out your location, IMEI, app list, and to download apps. There could be more. Users outside of China are apparently at little risk, and at any rate your security is in your own hands: if you’re downloading a to-do list app and it wants access to your GPS and calling functions, that’s probably bogus.
Stay safe out there, kids.
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Eek!
iPhone doesn't have this problem...
L33t Masta said:
iPhone doesn't have this problem...
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Think again.
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Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
Could you please guide which is the best antivirus for galaxy tab which should not be very resource hungry.
Thanks in advance
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I use look out
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pda_crazy said:
Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
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A report that was released by a company selling anti-virus products for Android. A report that has since been attacked for its credibility, as it seems the "trojan" may simply have been a legitimate (if intrusive) reporting mechanism used by the Chinese store selling those apps.
Bottom line: If you don't side-load content, you simply do not need anti virus on Android. It's a waste of time, money, processing power and battery life. I'm not aware of any known exploits on the Android ecosystem that don't require the user to side-load malware from sources outside the official Android market.
Android isn't windows. Android is a secure architecture from the ground up. Android doesn't have OS holes that need plugging. Android doesn't offer itself up to be infected every time an email is received.
If you're really worried about viruses, simply don't install apps from anywhere except the official Android market. Doing this single thing will do far more to guarantee safety than any anti-virus software.
Now if you do side-load content from questionable sources, an anti-virus product could potentially provide protection. In the real word, anti-virus software rarely recognizes new, zero day exploits. so not all that much protection at all.
After hearing such good things about android i am feeling proud to be android owner.
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Do we really need an Antivirus on the Galaxy Tab?
Better safe than sorry especially since there is no rejection poilicy for the market
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i think your better served reading the permissions of apps installed.
Things like Applanet that ask for access to log in credentials are far more dangerous then malware.
That is as long as your not getting your apps from chinese markets.
NetQin Android Antivirus
pda_crazy said:
Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
Could you please guide which is the best antivirus for galaxy tab which should not be very resource hungry.
Thanks in advance
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NetQin Android Antivirus, works fine!
TainT said:
i think your better served reading the permissions of apps installed.
Things like Applanet that ask for access to log in credentials are far more dangerous then malware.
That is as long as your not getting your apps from chinese markets.
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This.
Antivirus apps are not required. These "reports" are from antivirus creators designed to make you think you need one.
Actually read the reports? They are not viruses, but simply permissions you give it when installing anyway.
I wouldn't have thought antivirus was required, especially given Android's base as a Linux. All it would do is waste CPU cycles.
Spent the last 5 years as a Symbian user listening to people claim that AV on the phones was a 'must have'.
Glad to see some things are the same on Android!
A Trojan Horse on Android/Linux is like an upper class chav, it's not going to happen.
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EStrong Security manager isn't an antivirus per se but it seems to do a manual scan for malicious apps. They're very vague as to what it actually does though.
I don't really understand why people feel the need to get anti-virus for linux. To get something malicious you've got to install it yourself and thats pretty damn hard considering the phone will tell you what the app is tring to access and even then the app doesn't have any access to any other apps nor does it have root access to the phones file system.... the most it could really do is collect data about you, or maybe delete files on your SD card or something like that.
there is some very naive linux fanboys in here. there is plenty of reasons to have some sort of malware/privacy security on android. there have been various independant confirmations of apps in the market place containing malware espesially in the last month or so.
lookout is a good one or kaspersky. the both have good scanners and also can protect personal info aswell.
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there is some very naive linux fanboys in here. there is plenty of reasons to have some sort of malware/privacy security on android. there have been various independant confirmations of apps in the market place containing malware espesially in the last month or so.
lookout is a good one or kaspersky. the both have good scanners and also can protect personal info aswell.
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I would think that since the last reply was from January, people would have learnt that.. The last malware incident that got Google involved within 5 minutes and had over 50 apps pulled was pretty well publicized.
Anyway, people have got to realize that no one OS is invulnerable. It's just a matter of time before people start finding exploits when an OS gets popular - for Android that time is now. Heck, not sure how many people are aware, but roots and jailbreaks ARE exploits themselves. Trying scanning the rooting/jailbreaking tools with your desktop AV and all becomes clear.
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Heck, not sure how many people are aware, but roots and jailbreaks ARE exploits themselves. Trying scanning the rooting/jailbreaking tools with your desktop AV and all becomes clear.
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Precisely. A rooted device is the best to attack for malware apps. If there's a developer that's smart enough, they can get pretty much anything if you're rooted.
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Since I'm rooted, I installed Lookout too.
Funny coz it's easily uninstalled eventhough has apps policy/administrator (I forgot the name)
Well.. I use it mainly for the Missing Device feature (paired with PREY also).
GANJDROID said:
Precisely. A rooted device is the best to attack for malware apps. If there's a developer that's smart enough, they can get pretty much anything if you're rooted.
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dude you did not understand the last post at all!
you dont need to have your device rooted. a normal market app can root your device without you knowing it, and can then do whatever with your device.
how do you think z4root does root your device? (z4root is an app that does root the phone for you, normally with your knowledge)
Geletis said:
A report that was released by a company selling anti-virus products for Android. A report that has since been attacked for its credibility, as it seems the "trojan" may simply have been a legitimate (if intrusive) reporting mechanism used by the Chinese store selling those apps.
Bottom line: If you don't side-load content, you simply do not need anti virus on Android. It's a waste of time, money, processing power and battery life. I'm not aware of any known exploits on the Android ecosystem that don't require the user to side-load malware from sources outside the official Android market.
Android isn't windows. Android is a secure architecture from the ground up. Android doesn't have OS holes that need plugging. Android doesn't offer itself up to be infected every time an email is received.
If you're really worried about viruses, simply don't install apps from anywhere except the official Android market. Doing this single thing will do far more to guarantee safety than any anti-virus software.
Now if you do side-load content from questionable sources, an anti-virus product could potentially provide protection. In the real word, anti-virus software rarely recognizes new, zero day exploits. so not all that much protection at all.
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Dude, You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. MANY malware have been discovered as been submitted and released via market.
http://pocketnow.com/android/google-removes-ten-malware-infected-apps-from-android-market
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._malware_op_may_have_infected_5_million_users
Computerworld - The largest-ever Android malware campaign may have duped as many as 5 million users into downloading infected apps from Google's Android Market, Symantec said today.
Dubbed "Android.Counterclank" by Symantec, the malware was packaged in 13 different apps from three different publishers, with titles ranging from "Sexy Girls Puzzle" to "Counter Strike Ground Force." Many of the infected apps were still available on the Android Market as of 3 p.m. ET Friday.
Edit:Credit for this goes to Gio from The Collective.
Thanks for heads up Tx!
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Some say the Android Market isn't safe, but the problem are the users themselves, people just download any app from the Market thinking they are safe...
it's just like going tho the supermarket and not looking at expiration dates in food, then going home and getting diarrhea because you ate something rotten. hahaha
And that's only from the Android Market, imagine the people who install hacked apps and stuf..
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Some say the Android Market isn't safe, but the problem are the users themselves, people just download any app from the Market thinking they are safe...
it's just like going tho the supermarket and not looking at expiration dates in food, then going home and getting diarrhea because you ate something rotten. hahaha
And that's only from the Android Market, imagine the people who install hacked apps and stuf..
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I think that Google should do a better job of scanning/screening apps before they're released for mass consumption. This should be the first line of defense, but as you stated, it ultimately comes down to the end user being smart about what they install.
Agreed. It all comes back to why we get irritated at some new users posting when they have a problem and post before looking for the answer.......they dont want to read. Good practice would be to read the reviews before downloading.
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http://www.noticeorange.com/StoryBo...RpY2VvcmFuZ2VyDQsSBFNpdGUY2pTyFww&font_size=9
Maybe premature
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That ****ing sucks. There's always an asshole out there trying to **** **** up.
bluizzo said:
http://www.noticeorange.com/StoryBo...RpY2VvcmFuZ2VyDQsSBFNpdGUY2pTyFww&font_size=9
Maybe premature
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Well I don't know where Lookout gets their information about not calling it malware but according to wikipedia
Malware, short for malicious software, is software (or script or code) designed to disrupt computer operation, gather sensitive information, or gain unauthorized access to computer systems. It is a general term used to describe any kind of software or code specifically designed to exploit a computer, or the data it contains, without consent.[1] The expression is a general term used by computer professionals to mean a variety of forms of hostile, intrusive, or annoying software.
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But that sounds exactly like what this software is. And I have seen it before on my phone. It doesn't matter how careful you are even if you do read the reviews on the market. I had a free game called Bocce Ball. It had great reviews. Had it for many months. Then one day it wouldn't work unless I updated it. Low and behold I had notifications pushed to my notification bar, my homepage was hijacked, and I had search icons on my homescreen.
There lies why apple may be superior and I hate to admit it. It actually is in control of everything that gets posted on it's market. And with the variety of OS versions out there for android, Android is starting to look like Windows more and more everyday.
People will download anything these days..
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psych0naut said:
That ****ing sucks. There's always an asshole out there trying to **** **** up.
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This is your one and only warning. That type of language has no place here.
Now to remain on topic. Things like this will always happen. Same with PC. If you are not careful then you get a virus. Learn to be careful and your good.
suggestions? use avg?
willwoodham0526 said:
suggestions? use avg?
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Best advice is use common sense. Read all permissions before installing and only install apps from the official marketplaces. Anti virus software really are pointless.!
I use webroot secure anywhere, it works very well.
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I use webroot secure anywhere, it works very well.
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And how did you come to that conclusion? Did it actually catch something? Or the fact that it didn't you presume you are clean?
Tx Redneck said:
... the malware was packaged ... with titles ranging from "Sexy Girls Puzzle" to "Counter Strike Ground Force."
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Gee. I wonder who their target audience is. Oversexed, impulsive teenage to twenty-something boys, perhaps?
Yeah, if you ask me, "Sexy Girls Puzzle" just screams malware.
that sucks man, thank you for the warning!
I don't know how many of you pay attention to security issues but I thought I would post a link to this Threatpost article.
http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/staggering-increase-android-malware-variants-trojan-apps-051612
It behooves one to pay attention to what you are installing and what permissions apps are requesting. I just ditched Evernote due to increased permissions, even though it is from what one might call a trusted source.
Edit: I have not finished perusing the F-Secure Mobile Threat Report, but so far it is a good read.
I've never once had a problem with any kind of malware or virus on my phone. Then again I'm careful and use common sense. Which goes a long way
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Phalanx7621 said:
I've never once had a problem with any kind of malware or virus on my phone. Then again I'm careful and use common sense. Which goes a long way
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Common sense does go a long way. With some of the posts I've seen on XDA, there seems to be a lack of that not-so-common attribute. Flashing without thinking, sideloading apps from unknown sources, etc.
Google appears to be reacting (albeit slowly) with Bouncer, trying to police Market/Play. I'm not sure if Amazon is doing anything similar for their app store. The big picture still looks rather grim. Will we be looking at large scale botnets this year? Hopefully not. The idea of Android botnets makes me a bit ill.
Unless malware can show up on the store, I don't see the issue here. It's a risk we've all known about since the day Android came out.
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Unless malware can show up on the store, I don't see the issue here. It's a risk we've all known about since the day Android came out.
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Malware has shown up on the store. The issue is that Android is increasing its market share by leaps and bounds, black hats are writing more sophisticated malware, and more people are hacking their devices without a clue as to what they are doing. If you read the F-Secure Mobile Threat Report (linked in Threatpost), the number of detected malware APK's has grown tenfold over the last year.
Golly gosh.
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Phalanx7621 said:
I've never once had a problem with any kind of malware or virus on my phone. Then again I'm careful and use common sense. Which goes a long way
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Exactly the same here
Windows has had malware threats for well over a decade and as it matured the OS was patched to deal with it. Android is more secure than Windows is, you not only have to download a malicious app you also have to install it before anything bad can happen.
Google will hopefully implement a more effective way of preventing malware from entering the Play Store but this may have the side effect of false positives on certain rooting/tweaking apps.
As pc are being replaced by tablets, its a juicy business for anti virus companies.
So i wouldn't trust any report from av companies...
It's usually pretty vague. Which app on android market?
As you get virus when you install warez games on pc, the same goes for android if you manually install an apk out of android market. Nothing new.
rchtk said:
As pc are being replaced by tablets, its a juicy business for anti virus companies.
So i wouldn't trust any report from av companies...
It's usually pretty vague. Which app on android market?
As you get virus when you install warez games on pc, the same goes for android if you manually install an apk out of android market. Nothing new.
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I think you guys are missing the OP's point. You dont have to manually install an .apk.
A fake company called "MYOURNET" (touche for the name, rather ironic now) took a bunch of real apps from the market, injected them with malware and resubmitted them back onto the marketplace. The new malware could root your phone, steal your data, and keep a backdoor open for more goodies. Crazy ****.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-virus-served-up-by-user-myournet-20110302/
I admi i didn't open the pdf (pdf is now the number one virus vector ;-) but as far as i see it didn't mention reinjection in the market. Well.. pay attention to permissions..
Nothing else to do.
How to define a virus? That is the question..
Only install trusted editor from the market. Only install applications which provide ttheir source code and read it..
Easy answer for malware pike: piracy, period
Hi
I have just started using android and am wondering what's the risk of malware especially on rooted systems?
Has anyone have had any experience?
jay
jaywalker8888 said:
Hi
I have just started using android and am wondering what's the risk of malware especially on rooted systems?
Has anyone have had any experience?
jay
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Android is the safest platform. Linux has very few viruses. However, if you're feeling paranoid
1. Don't download anything with less than 10,000 users
2. Stick to the play store and Amazon.
3. All apps state permissions they require to run,before you click 'accept and download ' .ALWAYS read through this.
4. Install an antivirus like avast or lookout that protects your browsing
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thanks for the tips.
any chances of rooted android catching any viruses or malware from open ports?
jaywalker8888 said:
thanks for the tips.
any chances of rooted android catching any viruses or malware from open ports?
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Nope. You still have to turn on USB storage even if you're rooted. If you suspect the PC, just don't.
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Thanks. Learning the android platform. New migrant from apple .
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I don't like the fruit. They make things to work 'as advertised' and I like my things 'as specified' .
Welcome to android. You might want to activate anti - theft features on your antivirus. Better safe than sorry.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Android is the safest platform. Linux has very few viruses. However, if you're feeling paranoid
1. Don't download anything with less than 10,000 users
2. Stick to the play store and Amazon.
3. All apps state permissions they require to run,before you click 'accept and download ' .ALWAYS read through this.
4. Install an antivirus like avast or lookout that protects your browsing
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Android is not actually linux, and it isn't the safest platform for mobile devices as it has quite a lot of malware on it unlike iphone, rim and wp7 devices.
That being said it is the better platform overall but your chances of getting malware are low if you use play store and reputable sources such as amazon or getjar and check the apps permissions before you install it.
Avoiding apps with under ten thousand users will mean you miss out on some apps, if I did that I wouldn't be using my favourite 3D editing app as it had less users than that but in such cases always read the user reviews.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Android is not actually linux, and it isn't the safest platform for mobile devices as it has quite a lot of malware on it unlike iphone, rim and wp7 devices.
That being said it is the better platform overall but your chances of getting malware are low if you use play store and reputable sources such as amazon or getjar and check the apps permissions before you install it.
Avoiding apps with under ten thousand users will mean you miss out on some apps, if I did that I wouldn't be using my favourite 3D editing app as it had less users than that but in such cases always read the user reviews.
Dave
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Doubt the ordinary user would need a 3D editing tool.
I was under the impression android is a Linux seeing as it's open source. What is it anyway?
You're more likely to get attacked on an iPhone I think,cause serious hackers attack numbers. Is that wrong?
Also, play store was added an auto delete malware thing, something of the sort.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Doubt the ordinary user would need a 3D editing tool.
I was under the impression android is a Linux seeing as it's open source. What is it anyway?
You're more likely to get attacked on an iPhone I think,cause serious hackers attack numbers. Is that wrong?
Also, play store was added an auto delete malware thing, something of the sort.
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I agree with you about the 3D tool but there are lots of good apps with under ten thousand downloads, for example great big war game only has a few thousand yet is in googles top new paid section.
Androids kernel was based on linux but then google changed a lot to make android so they are very different.
Open source just means anyone can have the programming code, it doesn't make all open source material linux based though as a lot of open source software is windows based too.
You're right that play store has a malware detect feature. Google call it bouncer but it can only detect known malware behaviour and has missed some that were later reported by users and removed.
You're right about more users equalling more attacks, android has more users and does get attacked the most.
It's part of the price you pay for a more open system, people can attack it easier because they can see the code, but common sense is all most people need to avoid malware as you pretty much have suggested already
Dave
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I agree with you about the 3D tool but there are lots of good apps with under ten thousand downloads, for example great big war game only has a few thousand yet is in googles top new paid section.
Androids kernel was based on linux but then google changed a lot to make android so they are very different.
Open source just means anyone can have the programming code, it doesn't make all open source material linux based though as a lot of open source software is windows based too.
You're right that play store has a malware detect feature. Google call it bouncer but it can only detect known malware behaviour and has missed some that were later reported by users and removed.
You're right about more users equalling more attacks, android has more users and does get attacked the most.
It's part of the price you pay for a more open system, people can attack it easier because they can see the code, but common sense is all most people need to avoid malware as you pretty much have suggested already
Dave
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Thanks for clearing that up.
If Google put something on their recommended list it won't stay under 10000 for long. Also if its a recognised developer I download even if it's new.I use a high figure to be safe. That way I won't be complaining alone if I get attacked. If an app was only downloaded by 5 ignorant people and all 5 we're nicked, I'd hate to be number 6 and then Google shut it down AFTER I've been suffering.
I was thinking of taking a Linux course to learn basics on how to make apps and roms. Should I ignore that?
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Allanitomwesh said:
Thanks for clearing that up.
If Google put something on their recommended list it won't stay under 10000 for long. Also if its a recognised developer I download even if it's new.I use a high figure to be safe. That way I won't be complaining alone if I get attacked. If an app was only downloaded by 5 ignorant people and all 5 we're nicked, I'd hate to be number 6 and then Google shut it down AFTER I've been suffering.
I was thinking of taking a Linux course to learn basics on how to make apps and roms. Should I ignore that?
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Apps are java based and the tools used to create roms are usually windows based, in that people use windows computers to help.
I don't have experience on rom creation so can't advise on that but there are linux tools as well so knowing linux basics may help.
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mistermentality said:
Apps are java based and the tools used to create roms are usually windows based, in that people use windows computers to help.
I don't have experience on rom creation so can't advise on that but there are linux tools as well so knowing linux basics may help.
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Ah,okay. It's just the basics so there's no harm I guess. Thanks.
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When I read this blog I can't believe we are so vulnerable to this dangerous virus, Google fixed this for lollipop but what about Kitkat & other rooms?
http://www.cmcm.com/blog/en/security/2014-11-15/468.html
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Settings/+/37b58a4^!/#F0
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Virus name is BroadAnywhere, I hope XDA DEV may already has taken note of this.
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To protect against this vulnerability, please use Clean Master
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What a surprise, to protect yourself against this threat, the site you posted suggest using Clean Master, one of their own apps. Hmmmmmm........
Pagnell said:
What a surprise, to protect yourself against this threat, the site you posted suggest using Clean Master, one of their own apps. Hmmmmmm........
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Agreed. Obvious advertising. CM doing a good job of it.
Repeatedly urged Devs to isolate CM cleaner app from CM security they will simply not listen. Why should my cleaner provide me Security? Simply overdoing stuffs.
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vikraminside said:
Agreed. Obvious advertising. CM doing a good job of it.
Repeatedly urged Devs to isolate CM cleaner app from CM security they will simply not listen. Why should my cleaner provide me Security? Simply overdoing stuffs.
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Agree but what Google says in another link I posted? Which makes me think may this news is not only advertise, but I m not a expert to understand what Google is saying. [emoji15]
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D'you know what the thing is? There's always a hole, or a leak, or a bug, or a backdoor somewhere. Fix one, they just find a new one.
They keep finding holes in Windows that have been there for over 10 years without anyone ever noticing.
I wouldn't worry overly much about it. Software and devices will never be 100% secure, unless you put it in a Faraday cage.
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D'you know what the thing is? There's always a hole, or a leak, or a bug, or a backdoor somewhere. Fix one, they just find a new one.
They keep finding holes in Windows that have been there for over 10 years without anyone ever noticing.
I wouldn't worry overly much about it. Software and devices will never be 100% secure, unless you put it in a Faraday cage.
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+1, but at least we can take precautions against known malware if we aware.
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How about Unix Mac etc? I don't hear such many threats as windows. Well built stuff are less prone in my opinion.
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How about Unix Mac etc? I don't hear such many threats as windows. Well built stuff are less prone in my opinion.
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The fact that Windows has more threats is true. Your opinion of the cause, however, is not.
The reason Windows has more viruses and malware is simply because Windows has always had millions more users.
5 years ago hardly anyone did their bank affairs from their phone, preferring to use their computers.
Today, 70% does it from their phone.
5 years ago malware for a phone wasn't a profitable venue. Today, it most certainly is. Malware follows the crowd.
Malware for unix/linux/ubuntu isn't worth the effort, as its users are typically a lot more tech-savvy than 90% of the Windows users.
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The fact that Windows has more threats is true. Your opinion of the cause, however, is not.
The reason Windows has more viruses and malware is simply because Windows has always had millions more users.
5 years ago hardly anyone did their bank affairs from their phone, preferring to use their computers.
Today, 70% does it from their phone.
5 years ago malware for a phone wasn't a profitable venue. Today, it most certainly is. Malware follows the crowd.
Malware for unix/linux/ubuntu isn't worth the effort, as its users are typically a lot more tech-savvy than 90% of the Windows users.
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So malware follow crowds, Android has max market share, Linux based android has malware, not coming to any conclusion, confused ?
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So malware follow crowds, Android has max market share, Linux based android has malware, not coming to any conclusion, confused ?
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As is written in a BBC article:
Mobile malware was growing in popularity among cybercrime groups because smartphones were now so central to modern life, said Eldar Tuvey from mobile security monitoring firm Wandera
"We're definitely seeing the bad guys focus their attention on mobiles," he said. "That's because more time is now spent on apps on phones than desktops."
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30143283
I thought the conclusion was pretty clear....
ShadowLea said:
5 years ago malware for a phone wasn't a profitable venue. Today, it most certainly is. Malware follows the crowd.
Malware for unix/linux/ubuntu isn't worth the effort, as its users are typically a lot more tech-savvy than 90% of the Windows users.
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I see the reverse. Server platforms run in Unix mainly. Attacking a server is equivalent to attacking millions of its clients.
Is it easy to break 100 computers or break 1 computer and retrieve 100 computer information?
The fact as I see it, many of them are hoax warnings let's say 90% + .
Some AV companies deliberately hire virus programmers to increase their sales. Innocent users are scapegoats to upgrade.
To me malwarebytes did work in PC along with AVG firewall.
In Android I use TrustGo which has good Anti theft, phone locate features. While testing alarm even I was taken aback with the noise it created.
I do not recommend any software its what is being used at my end.
Please have a look at this to understand what I mean:
http://www.cnet.com/news/top-five-paid-app-on-google-play-was-an-antivirus-scam/
Poorly built heavily hit.
@OP
Android runs over Unix based as you said but its a separate wrapper OS again.
Thats why we keep rooting to become Unix superuser to safeguard ourselves. Truth is Unix's shell is hard as tortoise shell.
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I see the reverse. Server platforms run in Unix mainly. Attacking a server is equivalent to attacking millions of its clients.
Is it easy to break 100 computers or break 1 computer and retrieve 100 computer information?
The fact as I see it, many of them are hoax warnings let's say 90% + .
Some AV companies deliberately hire virus programmers to increase their sales. Innocent users are scapegoats to upgrade.
To me malwarebytes did work in PC along with AVG firewall.
In Android I use TrustGo which has good Anti theft, phone locate features. While testing alarm even I was taken aback with the noise it created.
I do not recommend any software its what is being used at my end.
Please have a look at this to understand what I mean:
http://www.cnet.com/news/top-five-paid-app-on-google-play-was-an-antivirus-scam/
Poorly built heavily hit.
@OP
Android runs over Unix based as you said but its a separate wrapper OS again.
Thats why we keep rooting to become Unix superuser to safeguard ourselves. Truth is Unix's shell is hard as tortoise shell.
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I'm aware that most are scams. One need only look at the fact that every AV on Windows marks Steam_api.dll as a virus to know that. (A blatant and inefficient means of preventing piracy. Steam_api is the cracked file, so they pretend it's a virus in the hopes of stopping people from using it.)
The reason attacking a phone by means of an app is more efficient is because servers are maintained by people who know what they're doing.
90% of the phone users haven't a bloody clue what they're doing.
The amount of people who click on 'Update your Whatsapp' banners in websites is ridiculous. That's how they get infected.
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A simple rule which i used for myself dont click as and when you like. Same rules applied on windows. Certain ads apps or even games could contain viruses or malware. Just be cautious and careful when surfing the web or even fb coz fb does have alot of phishing ads.
Also apart from the experts taking care of the server (not always as good or dedicated) both the attack vector and discovery methods are different than desktop or mobiles.
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There was a discussion about Networked AV protection by AV companies during the recent past to filter virus like a NEURAL NETWORK.
It will be good if implemented. The viruses can be arrested even before it reaches devices.
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+1
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After installing cm security app i found my phone was infected with broad anywhere.
Hold on, what it did clean? Where was it found? How do i know its true or fake? Why it's not showing path or trace of virus? Why other AV like Trustgo not interested in it? Are they not capable? Remember we had patches in PC from AV companies for specific viruses even if entire AV product not installed. Is it not applicable for mobiles? Creates lot many questions...
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vikraminside said:
After installing cm security app i found my phone was infected with broad anywhere.
Hold on, what it did clean? Where was it found? How do i know its true or fake? Why it's not showing path or trace of virus? Why other AV like Trustgo not interested in it? Are they not capable? Remember we had patches in PC from AV companies for specific viruses even if entire AV product not installed. Is it not applicable for mobiles? Creates lot many questions...
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I don't think your phone was infected , may it found vulnerable to broad anyware & CM applied patch for same. I think all AV companies try to make some sensational news to sell their product & broad anyware may be one of many....