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For any of you who have bought a Nexus S *in Canada* from any of the carriers - Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido, Koodo, Virgin, Mobilicity, Wind, Videotron...
Can you confirm that your phone came SIM-unlocked out of the box? Or does anyone have signs of a carrier lock?
all Nexus phones are unlocked
AllGamer said:
all Nexus phones are unlocked
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We'd like to hope so. But I am asking owners of these specific models, bought from CDN carriers, to confirm that fact once and for all.
it will be in violation of the google / nexus brand if they locked
google will not let telcos tarnish their image
Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.
htc fan89 said:
Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.
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Nope they weren't - it was confirmed that the Mobi N1 came unlocked. Don't know about Videotron's, but I presume the same.
Still, Bell/Telus/Rogers just don't seem like the kind of companies to allow themselves to sell something without a SIM lock. Which is why I'm asking about the NS.
I can personally confirm the Telus NS is unlocked (sim) using both a virgin and Rogers Sim.
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Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.
I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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dinan said:
Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.
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And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.
sal14m said:
I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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Where are you that you could buy one already today?
bfksc said:
Where are you that you could buy one already today?
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Thinking the same thing. I was thinking of grabbing one today to play with over the weekend.
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I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.
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I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.
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I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.
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And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.
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You can't buy from robelus without either a multi-year contract or severely over-inflated prices, and you can't buy from anyone else without paying full price up front. Nobody loses a dime by buying from the wrong carrier.... except for the carrier who lost the sale.
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Don't be so biased...the AWS version is only useful to those on 1700/AWS band, so obviously it's the one to get if you're with Wind or the others. If you're with Bell or the others then the obvious choice is the NAM version. And the 850/1900/NAM version also works in Europe just like the AWS version as both have 2100 radios.
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Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Talk about misinformation...
Weird I went to 2 Future Shops in Oakville, I think there are only 2 here, and both tried to sell me a Nexus unlocked. So no aggro here
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Having been a Fido customer on my AWS Nexus One for several months before Vancouver's first AWS carrier launched... I would not wish on any phone geek the torture of owning a an awesome new "superphone" that feels so snappy and delightful in so many ways... but can't access the 3G speeds they're already paying for.
Buy the phone that matches your carrier's frequencies. There are plenty of these to go around. If you switch to another carrier, trade it. Or hold out for something like the LG G2X which will be quad-band UMTS 850/AWS/1900/2100 *and* dual-core.
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I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.
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When i went in on Thursday night, I was told the same thing. They had stock, but it was not in the system. This is true for consumers. Fortunately, I'm a corporate customer and a quick call to my sales rep got everything sorted out, turns out the business sku's ARE in the system. After about 1/2 hour, i walked out of the store with my phone.
I hope you where not the guy behind me who was told "No, you can't have one" by the sales rep while i was unboxing mine. I felt really bad for that guy.
Also keep in mind that not all telus stores are the same. Look in your phone book for Telus and go to one of those stores, not on of the "Telus by XXXXX". When you get into a store owned and operated by Telus, you can get a lot more done.
I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
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I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
Good question. Does the International version of the Sensational work on Tzones or Web2Go?
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
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The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
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The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
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That wasn't the question though, was it?
He wants to know if T-Mobile US will allow an Asia/Europe Sensation to work with grandfathered T-Zones or web2go data plans. It has nothing to do with the bands. It has to do with T-Mobile's locking down of certain smartphones so that they can't use T-Zones or web2go regardless if they have AWS or not.
Since the phone's not out yet in the U.S., the majority of posters here are from the EU. They have no idea what T-Zones are. For my international friends, it's a legacy dumb-phone plan that allows you to use 3/4G data on an unlimited basis for half the price of the smartphone data plan. He's asking about the European IMEI because if T-Mobile U.S. has it in their database than T-Zones will be blocked.
OP, I'd ask again when more people in the U.S. actually have the phone.
P.S. - Since all the phones have AWS, I'd imagine that HTC provided T-Mobile U.S. with the full range of IEMIs. Just guessing but it makes sense.
Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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Thank you all for your answers, but this is my first thread in XDA. Since this phone is made in China, I can import one from China for less than $600. Would be interesting to see if T-mobile blocks all the IMEIs. I got my dad a Huawei U8150, which is the same as the T-mobile Comet, but T-mobile has no idea what that phone is. So it works fine on the web2go plan. I almost pull the trigger to have my friend in China ship me a sensation, but I'll wait for a couple more weeks.
Because I can get the EU version easier than the US version and wanted to be sure before I placed an order.... that and I was a little drunk
Now last question s about the rom, will the EU be able to have the US rom flashed to it
xnifex said:
should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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right, I guess we need a brave tester to let us all know.
I just got the HTC Incredible S, which does work on T-Zones/Web2go.
However, if someone does get Euro HTC Sensation, let us know if it works.
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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That's awesome! please let us know, i'm sure lots of people are eager to find out as well.
zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
Not many ratings for Hi-Mobile.net. I honestly wouldn't trust them.
Integrontech.com- has reviews and seller feedback. $599.99- free shipping.
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
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I bought mine from Negri Electronics because i was watching reviews and this one review from like pocketnow or some pretty good review website said they got it from there and it was the cheapest i could find. it was $625 free shipping. but im from hawaii so i had to pay for the 2day air shipping for $30
As the title states, its out in Canada tomorrow from what i can see/been told. Hopefully the phone was worth the wait =3.
Thinking about it. Anyone know if BestBuy will let you pay full out for one with no contract unlike the atrix
Will be getting one from either wirelesswave or Tbooth tomorrow off contract, and will then unlock and use on Rogers.
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I got mine from Bell last thursday.
I will be getting one, then unlock it to use on Telus
Getting one for sure
I'm picking one up tomo for 140
The Radius Kid said:
I got mine from Bell last thursday.
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Is it s=off in Canada?
I'm just figuring out how to exchange my Atrix for one. If i had known the Sensation was coming out this soon, I would've waited.
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Thinking about it. Anyone know if BestBuy will let you pay full out for one with no contract unlike the atrix
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Called Best Buy, they said they had it and it was $549, I said you have it now? they said yep. I said it's $549? they said yep, I said okay, hold it for me I'll be right in, they said okay... I went and they said they couldn't sell it to me, the skew wasn't taking or something like that. I said I just called you... just a dumbfounded look on their part. I hate incompetence.
Anyways, I'm guessing their computer knows that the official release is tomorrow so it's not allowing the sale.
Got my T-Mobile version up and running on WIND two weeks ago. Hooray for unlimited data!
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Got my T-Mobile version up and running on WIND two weeks ago. Hooray for unlimited data!
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also reaping the benefits my friend
loving this fone since TMO launch, i highly recoommend it.
i just hope bell didnt swamp the fone with bloadware like TMO did :/
The TMO version of the phone supports both the AWS frequencies and the UMTS frequencies. Does anyone have any idea if this is the same with the one Bell is releasing? I'm looking to put this phone on WIND and would prefer to buy it within the country rather than from the outside.
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/sensation4g-bell/#tech-specs
HSPA+/GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
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The TMO version of the phone supports both the AWS frequencies and the UMTS frequencies. Does anyone have any idea if this is the same with the one Bell is releasing? I'm looking to put this phone on WIND and would prefer to buy it within the country rather than from the outside.
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you need the TMO or an unbranded for working on AWS, most others arent compatible
not to mention how easy it is to get a TMO S4G in canada, or just by driving across the border
Thinking of going out to my local best buy and futureshop to see if they will in fact sell one on no contract... Anyone have any luck doing this?
I just walked into the source and walked out with a bell sensation. Unlocking now for use on rogers. No issues no need to setup a bell account.
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I just walked into the source and walked out with a bell sensation. Unlocking now for use on rogers. No issues no need to setup a bell account.
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You got it off contract? Ugh this sucks. I got my Atrix through best buy with the PEP program and the wifi signal strength/call quality are horrible and I just got the phone May 26th, but since I got GingerBlur on the phone, I don't see how I'm gonna be able to exchange it without em noticing something...different with the phone.
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You got it off contract? Ugh this sucks. I got my Atrix through best buy with the PEP program and the wifi signal strength/call quality are horrible and I just got the phone May 26th, but since I got GingerBlur on the phone, I don't see how I'm gonna be able to exchange it without em noticing something...different with the phone.
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I happen to work at Best Buy Mobile, and if you restore a stock rom and mess with around with a root explorer, you should be able to mess up the phone enough for them to exchange it with said PEP. The guys there don't EVER notice anything subtle, and I doubt you should have any problems
With it unlocked, will it get Rogers 3G? I'm assuming yes as HSPA+ bands are 850/1900 like Rogers.
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http://www.htc.com/ca/products/sensation4g-bell/#tech-specs
HSPA+/GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
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So in other words, no information whatsoever. Lazy HTC listed quad band GSM but forgot to include the 3G bands in the specs.
We can probably assume it's UMTS 850/1900, possibly also 2100 for roaming. No AWS. The only Big 3 devices to include AWS have been the pentaband Nokias.
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I have looked everywhere (Expansys, Popular Electronics, eBay) for the HTC Sensation (Bell Canada model so I can get 3G in USA) but only Negri has it on back order.. any other leads for me?
thanks!
Australia has 1 carrier who uses the 850mhz band (Telstra), so you can get 'usa' capable handsets here
http://www.mobicity.com.au/htc-sensation-nextg.html
http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/htc-sensation-nextg.html
if you want the bell canada one, there's a few major resellers here that may ship out of country, I have no idea if they will... Bell won't even sell to a non-subscriber if you show up at their door knocking.
Try wireless wave or T-Booth
or any of the electronics stores we have here... eg: the source, Futureshop, or Bestbuy.
Someone may have a web special and ship overseas. who knows?
did you get one yet? I'm looking for one too.
http://www.omegacell.com/product.php?productid=541&cat=0&page=1
I got mine from here.
Runs beautifully on AT&T
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I got mine from here.
Runs beautifully on AT&T
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Did you have it shipped to the US, to use on AT&T? on the OmegaCell website, it says they do not ship outside of Canada.
yeah i want one too, are these omega guys legit?
T-mobile USA
http://htc.t-mobile.com/sensation
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Did you have it shipped to the US, to use on AT&T? on the OmegaCell website, it says they do not ship outside of Canada.
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if you try to purchase they ship to the US for $40 but $640 is pretty pricey, i think thats canadian so youre looking at $666 for a phone that you can get for tmobile for around $350 to $400 already
I bought a Virgin model and unlocked it for FIDO. Purchased at a ''The Phone Booth'' in Montreal. its a Z710A
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I bought a Virgin model and unlocked it for FIDO. Purchased at a ''The Phone Booth'' in Montreal. its a Z710A
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how much did you pay?
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T-mobile USA
http://htc.t-mobile.com/sensation
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just FYI, that is not what he's asking for, TMobile don't use the band he is looking for (850Mhz)
The Bell version uses the bandwidth compatible with AT&T 4G data. the Tmobile will only support Edge when using AT&T.
They post today on facebook stock avialable
http://www.canadagsm.ca/phone_details.php?product_id=snp1764
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They post today on facebook stock avialable
http://www.canadagsm.ca/phone_details.php?product_id=snp1764
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Has any one purchased from this reseller? Just looking for some feed back.
549$ CAN + taxes 626$ - But sold the iPhone 4 500$ + 65$ fido dollars. Math it. resonable.
hi guys, im in ireland and i have one htc sensation with official s-off, its brand new in box. i will post to canada.its on ebay right now
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Has any one purchased from this reseller? Just looking for some feed back.
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I can confirm. I recieve mine today. I order on Monday they ship yesterday and receive it today via UPS Next Day to Puerto Rico. Im a proud owner of an HTC Sensation Z710A and runs very good with my ATT sin card. The package slip say SN Traders instead of canadagsm.
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They post today on facebook stock avialable
http://www.canadagsm.ca/phone_details.php?product_id=snp1764
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awesome link, we keep finding cheaper and cheaper prices. this is down to $595 USD now. can someone tell me if this is unlocked for this price. and keep the links coming got about a month till i have to sell my iphone as a pre-emtive strike to the iphone 5 release
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awesome link, we keep finding cheaper and cheaper prices. this is down to $595 USD now. can someone tell me if this is unlocked for this price. and keep the links coming got about a month till i have to sell my iphone as a pre-emtive strike to the iphone 5 release
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I can confirm, i receive mine yesterday on the box have a little transparent sticker that say Virgin Mobile. But when i turn it on dont have any company logo. I check and is S-ON . Im very happy with it it runs very good on att HSPA. And arrive next day from Canada to Puerto Rico
can someone lease provide us with the current HTC sensation prices in their countries , with or without warranty's ? preferably retail prices, and in the middle east , however other countries prices are welcomed. thank you
got it for 549 from T-Mobile without contract
EU retail handset, SIM Free - £399.95:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sim-free-htc-sensation-p29011.htm
430 EURO THE NETHERLANDS SIMLOCK FREE
http://www.electrosky.nl/product_info.php?products_id=799
Just dropped to $500 at T-Mobile without contract. USA
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Its free in the U.S. at radioshack currently.
549 no contract up here in Canada. Going for about 475 - 500 on craigslist.
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Its free in the U.S. at radioshack currently.
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Wow is radio shack still offering this special? Do you need a longer than 1 year contract?
got mine new from amazon uk, £375 but it fluctuates quite a lot
I can't find it as free @ Radioshack, but Target's got it for 100$ w/ a 2 year contract. Online and in store for this week it seems.
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Wow is radio shack still offering this special? Do you need a longer than 1 year contract?
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No idea. Its only tmobile phones. I live in Baltimore, MD and its a special at more than one shack here. I think tmobile is tryna reel in a bunch of customers before the possible merger. I saw it today so they should still be doing it. You are definitely going to need a two year contract. The offer is in-store only. Not online.
panamoz.com has it for £345, delivery to the UK is £9.99, only thing is because they are based in Hong Kong it could be the Asian version you get. Although you can still select english language on the handset so its not such a big problem.
Cheapest I can find the european version is £399 at amazon currently.
Cheers
Sadly in lebanon the HTC agent is selling it at more than 800$, he says that its more expensive cz of the 1 year limited warranty ,is this true?? i dont think so , i tried contacting HTC to file a complaint but with no luck till now , their agent is adding 100$ to 300$ on each htc phone , i cant believe how htc is letting this happen.
600 euros ( $822) here in Greece without contract!!!
Thats what im talking about!! how can htc let their agents take advantage of its possible customers like that!! unacceptable
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No idea. Its only tmobile phones. I live in Baltimore, MD and its a special at more than one shack here. I think tmobile is tryna reel in a bunch of customers before the possible merger. I saw it today so they should still be doing it. You are definitely going to need a two year contract. The offer is in-store only. Not online.
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Radioshack is going to stop carrying T-Mobile so there getting rid of stock.
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Qatar:
QAR 2,599/-
That is USD 712/- without contract.
WHY is there so much price difference between the middle east and the rest of the world? its bein sold everywhere for 550$-600$ , in the middle east 700 and above! why!
€500 in Belgium, Vodafone branded but simfree
€550 for unbranded.
£550 at my local stores
$869.05
That's without contract, on PAG