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Canadian Nexus S: Unlocked?

For any of you who have bought a Nexus S *in Canada* from any of the carriers - Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido, Koodo, Virgin, Mobilicity, Wind, Videotron...
Can you confirm that your phone came SIM-unlocked out of the box? Or does anyone have signs of a carrier lock?

all Nexus phones are unlocked

AllGamer said:
all Nexus phones are unlocked
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We'd like to hope so. But I am asking owners of these specific models, bought from CDN carriers, to confirm that fact once and for all.

it will be in violation of the google / nexus brand if they locked
google will not let telcos tarnish their image

Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.

htc fan89 said:
Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.
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Nope they weren't - it was confirmed that the Mobi N1 came unlocked. Don't know about Videotron's, but I presume the same.
Still, Bell/Telus/Rogers just don't seem like the kind of companies to allow themselves to sell something without a SIM lock. Which is why I'm asking about the NS.

I can personally confirm the Telus NS is unlocked (sim) using both a virgin and Rogers Sim.
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Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.

I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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dinan said:
Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.
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And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.

sal14m said:
I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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Where are you that you could buy one already today?

bfksc said:
Where are you that you could buy one already today?
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Thinking the same thing. I was thinking of grabbing one today to play with over the weekend.
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I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.

Matridom said:
I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.
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I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.

bfksc said:
And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.
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You can't buy from robelus without either a multi-year contract or severely over-inflated prices, and you can't buy from anyone else without paying full price up front. Nobody loses a dime by buying from the wrong carrier.... except for the carrier who lost the sale.
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.

dhkr234 said:
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Don't be so biased...the AWS version is only useful to those on 1700/AWS band, so obviously it's the one to get if you're with Wind or the others. If you're with Bell or the others then the obvious choice is the NAM version. And the 850/1900/NAM version also works in Europe just like the AWS version as both have 2100 radios.

dhkr234 said:
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Talk about misinformation...

Weird I went to 2 Future Shops in Oakville, I think there are only 2 here, and both tried to sell me a Nexus unlocked. So no aggro here
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Having been a Fido customer on my AWS Nexus One for several months before Vancouver's first AWS carrier launched... I would not wish on any phone geek the torture of owning a an awesome new "superphone" that feels so snappy and delightful in so many ways... but can't access the 3G speeds they're already paying for.
Buy the phone that matches your carrier's frequencies. There are plenty of these to go around. If you switch to another carrier, trade it. Or hold out for something like the LG G2X which will be quad-band UMTS 850/AWS/1900/2100 *and* dual-core.

bfksc said:
I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.
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When i went in on Thursday night, I was told the same thing. They had stock, but it was not in the system. This is true for consumers. Fortunately, I'm a corporate customer and a quick call to my sales rep got everything sorted out, turns out the business sku's ARE in the system. After about 1/2 hour, i walked out of the store with my phone.
I hope you where not the guy behind me who was told "No, you can't have one" by the sales rep while i was unboxing mine. I felt really bad for that guy.
Also keep in mind that not all telus stores are the same. Look in your phone book for Telus and go to one of those stores, not on of the "Telus by XXXXX". When you get into a store owned and operated by Telus, you can get a lot more done.

[Q] Availablility timeframe in the U.S.?

I'm pretty sure this will be my next phone. I don't know how long it will take to come out in the States but HTC's website says it supports AWS in Europe/Asia/T-mobile US. So if they make me wait too long, I may have to buy an unlocked imported model if they are available first.

Paten said:
I'm pretty sure this will be my next phone. I don't know how long it will take to come out in the States but HTC's website says it supports AWS in Europe/Asia/T-mobile US. So if they make me wait too long, I may have to buy an unlocked imported model if they are available first.
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They will not be available until sometime in June as for its first month on sale, at least as far as the UK is concerned it will be exclusive to Vodafone.

Looks like I am going to have to get a G2X to pacify me until TMOUS gets this beauty.

kable said:
Looks like I am going to have to get a G2X to pacify me until TMOUS gets this beauty.
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You know I wonder if the Sensation will be dual network campatible seeing as AT&T is buying T-Mobile US. Personally I am seriously concidering the Sensation for my next device as the dual core snap dragon has me all excited but if I can not use it on AT&T's 4G network I am going to have to pass as I don't want to dish out the cash for a great new device just to get stuck on Edge.

T-Macgnolia said:
...if I can not use it on AT&T's 4G network I am going to have to pass as I don't want to dish out the cash for a great new device just to get stuck on Edge.
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Exactly. G2x here I come.

T-Macgnolia said:
You know I wonder if the Sensation will be dual network campatible seeing as AT&T is buying T-Mobile US. Personally I am seriously concidering the Sensation for my next device as the dual core snap dragon has me all excited but if I can not use it on AT&T's 4G network I am going to have to pass as I don't want to dish out the cash for a great new device just to get stuck on Edge.
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ATT already said its going to give T-Mobile subscribers free phones of equal class
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[Q] Asia/Europe Version Sensation for T-zone / Web2go?

I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!

****ting said:
I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.

xnifex said:
1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?

Good question. Does the International version of the Sensational work on Tzones or Web2Go?
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****ting said:
Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
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The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..

OccasionalDroid said:
The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
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That wasn't the question though, was it?
He wants to know if T-Mobile US will allow an Asia/Europe Sensation to work with grandfathered T-Zones or web2go data plans. It has nothing to do with the bands. It has to do with T-Mobile's locking down of certain smartphones so that they can't use T-Zones or web2go regardless if they have AWS or not.

Since the phone's not out yet in the U.S., the majority of posters here are from the EU. They have no idea what T-Zones are. For my international friends, it's a legacy dumb-phone plan that allows you to use 3/4G data on an unlimited basis for half the price of the smartphone data plan. He's asking about the European IMEI because if T-Mobile U.S. has it in their database than T-Zones will be blocked.
OP, I'd ask again when more people in the U.S. actually have the phone.
P.S. - Since all the phones have AWS, I'd imagine that HTC provided T-Mobile U.S. with the full range of IEMIs. Just guessing but it makes sense.

Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?

Cheeze[iT] said:
Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.

xnifex said:
should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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Thank you all for your answers, but this is my first thread in XDA. Since this phone is made in China, I can import one from China for less than $600. Would be interesting to see if T-mobile blocks all the IMEIs. I got my dad a Huawei U8150, which is the same as the T-mobile Comet, but T-mobile has no idea what that phone is. So it works fine on the web2go plan. I almost pull the trigger to have my friend in China ship me a sensation, but I'll wait for a couple more weeks.

Because I can get the EU version easier than the US version and wanted to be sure before I placed an order.... that and I was a little drunk
Now last question s about the rom, will the EU be able to have the US rom flashed to it
xnifex said:
should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.

****ting said:
according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.

onxda said:
Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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right, I guess we need a brave tester to let us all know.

I just got the HTC Incredible S, which does work on T-Zones/Web2go.
However, if someone does get Euro HTC Sensation, let us know if it works.

i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out

zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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That's awesome! please let us know, i'm sure lots of people are eager to find out as well.

zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.

Not many ratings for Hi-Mobile.net. I honestly wouldn't trust them.
Integrontech.com- has reviews and seller feedback. $599.99- free shipping.

Paten said:
Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
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I bought mine from Negri Electronics because i was watching reviews and this one review from like pocketnow or some pretty good review website said they got it from there and it was the cheapest i could find. it was $625 free shipping. but im from hawaii so i had to pay for the 2day air shipping for $30

Is this goodbye to the XT720?

So I was looking at my carrier yesterday to check on something with my bill and saw that Cincinnati Bell Wireless is no longer carrying the XT720 anymore. Not even being offered as a refurbished model. Hellmonger was lost b/c his XT broke and his carrier gave him an HTC Penache as a replacement.
I did some looking around and Videotron and FIDO are no longer selling it, Wind has it still for sale (check website for details). Not sure about any other carriers because frankly I don't know anymore really, but might want to check yours.
Just total speculation on my part, but maybe Google dropped support for all the "obsolete" phones to make way for their new crop of super-phones. More speculation that Motorola got pissed that CBW gave customers Root Permission with their 2.2 upgrade.
If everyone is dropping this phone, then we are a dying breed in this forum, but then why all the new Korean 2.2's?
Just letting you know what I have found. As long as my phone is working and I don't have to replace it, I'll be around. Hope most others will too.
http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCa...|utmctr=wind+mobile&__utmv=-&__utmk=224610458
http://translate.google.com/transla...=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1024&bih=667&prmd=imvns
http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/Smartphones
Edit:::: Took out WIND $ b/c billing is not the point of this. It was that the XT720 is being dropped by some carriers and to check yours just in case you may have insurance/warranty issues.

XT720 is the last of an old abandoned platform (sholes--the original Droid). The Droid is now 2 years old and most of the original Verizon Droid owners are due for hardware replacements (which Verizon's Nexus Prime seems to be targeting). From reading the git commit logs in Motorola's kernel source for XT720, the Milestone XT720 was intended to be a T-Mobile device. But of course all the other manufacturers started coming out with dual-cores, etc and Motorola was caught with it's pants down trying to milk sholes to death. When T-Mobile passed that was probably pretty much the nail in the coffin and upgrade/development was canned and Motorola looked to sell it for what it could. Then Motorola split and Motorola Mobility decided the XT720 wasn't worth any effort for bug fixes either esp. since Atrix and Xoom were both tanking and Bionic had to be re-engineered. Seriously, why would Google give a ****? Android's in growth mode--people stuck on 2.1 are a smaller and smaller and smaller fraction of Android users every day. Google *never* cares about small fractions of their users. I doubt Google will have any real control or influence on Motorola for at least a year. Nightmare: Motorola adopts Google's "legendary" customer support policies.

@Woodrube
i think you mis-read the website, read again
http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCa...ls.aspx?id=Motorola+XT720(WINDCA)&color=green
it's still at $400 minus whatever in store discount
the $59 is pay by instalment, which they charger you on a per month basis until you pay off the $400
and FIDO Canada never carried this phone as far as i know, is not even compatible frequency wise

Regardless of whether it is $59 or $400 it seems that this phone is being dropped by carriers. And I did misread that Fido carried it. Sorry about that. I thought that I had seen below some member's avatars the Fido emblem, but maybe not.
Just giving a heads up as if we have to "replace" our phones, they probably won't do an XT for XT. All i can say is check your carrier in case something happens and you have to turn it in for repairs or some other reason.
Edit: Seeing a whole bunch of unlocking services for XT's on Fido. Scam since it doesn't work on Fido?

Yea Cincinnati bell dropped it a couple weeks ago. So I jumped on the nexus s train for a great deal of $100. I couldn't be happier. Now I'm FREE of the locked bootloader. Woo hoo!!!!!!!!
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the only other Milestone that works in FIDO, is not a XT
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_milestone-3001.php
so, yes it could very well be a SCAM
there are too many of those bogus unlock places, a lot of people using Samsung phones got tricked
Back to the XT720 service issue, as long as it's a trade up, when they do a service exchange, i see no problem in that.
but a trade down, would really suck
at this point i think it's only Cincinati Bell that is dropping it off, and Tmobile USA
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller...primary&Ntt=motorola&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial
from the Canadian side Vidéotron
http://www.videotron.com/service/mobile/appareils/details.do?noAppareil=1014&init=true
and Mobilicity
http://mobilicity.ca/products/
seems to have dropped it as well

AllGamer said:
at this point i think it's only Cincinati Bell that is dropping it off, and Tmobile USA
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller...primary&Ntt=motorola&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial
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I don't think T-mobile USA ever carried Milestone XT720?

In North America, I believe the only carriers to sell the XT720 are or WERE Videotron, Cincinnati Bell, and WIND Mobile. All fairly small companies, hence the reason why the XT720 was abandoned by Motorola. If T-Mobile had picked it up though, we probably at least would have seen a real froyo.

@AllGamer
I am running fido on the XT

Hi
This why I have stopped messing around cm7 finally went back to cm6 1.2 like it the best and I have sold all my extra milestone xt.
Been working on mobile windows again don't know if will stay with droid.
Cincinnati bell know about xt issues sorry their just snakes in the grass
I will unlock this phone very soon.
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doombox414 said:
@AllGamer
I am running fido on the XT
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yes, but you wont get 3G
all phones has quad bands for voice

Locked means carrier locked right? I don't think any of the phones sold in Singapore are locked. We can use any carrier we want.
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eejin2 said:
Locked means carrier locked right? I don't think any of the phones sold in Singapore are locked. We can use any carrier we want.
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Yup, just the way it is in North America

when cincy bell refused to unlock my xt, that was the last straw. i decided id never buy another phone from them and i would only buy tmo unlocked phones. when i bought my mytouch 4g 6 months ago, i realized how inferior the xt really was.
if you can wait to get another phone, do so later this year or early next year. tmo will be getting the sgs2 and the htc amaze 4g

there's no comparison it's completely 2 different kind of beast, 3G vs 4G, that itself gives away the huge generation gap difference

Apparently the CBW essurance insurance warehouse still has plenty of the Xt's in stock. They are shipping me one to replace my sisters. Sucks Arse! lol. They should be running out soon though we can only hope.

wow, no wonder i never got 3G ever on my phone cause I'm on fido. but I'm not using a data plan anyways so it doesn't matter right.
I was sorta surprised to see this topic, cause I thought the XT720 was done for long ago. Look at the phones that are out as of now. It can't compare anyways. Even the zero dollar phones from Samsung LG and HTC are a lot better than the stock XT720 experience. The wildfire S is especially great for newbs. Its cheap and lag free almost.
I still support this phone strongly though. i wish they made some sorta sequel...maybe Moto will surprise us. I don't get why they don't make one like the droid 2 and 3...

mrmako777 said:
when cincy bell refused to unlock my xt, that was the last straw. i decided id never buy another phone from them and i would only buy tmo unlocked phones. when i bought my mytouch 4g 6 months ago, i realized how inferior the xt really was.
if you can wait to get another phone, do so later this year or early next year. tmo will be getting the sgs2 and the htc amaze 4g
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So let me ask you this. See that you are local (CBW user) and have a Tmo MyTouch4g. Are you using that with CBW sim card and getting full E, G, 4G use? Whenever I am out of town, my phone always reverts to ATT signal. I know they use different frequencies, but I always thought CBW's parent was ATT (or may that is there go-to backup signal). If I wanted to buy an unlocked phone, I am wondering if I shoudl get an ATT or Tmo. I thought it would be ATT but if you are using a Tmo then maybe I am wrong.

Woodrube said:
So let me ask you this. See that you are local (CBW user) and have a Tmo MyTouch4g. Are you using that with CBW sim card and getting full E, G, 4G use? Whenever I am out of town, my phone always reverts to ATT signal. I know they use different frequencies, but I always thought CBW's parent was ATT (or may that is there go-to backup signal). If I wanted to buy an unlocked phone, I am wondering if I shoudl get an ATT or Tmo. I thought it would be ATT but if you are using a Tmo then maybe I am wrong.
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Well, CBW was Cincinnati Bell (80%)+AT&T Wireless (20%), but then Cingular bought AT&T Wireless and Cincinnati Bell bought the 20% from Cingular. Then Cingular changed their name to AT&T Mobility. Interesting trivia, Cincinnati Bell was also never part of Ma Bell.

I remember all that now. Ah Ma Bell. Sometimes I long for the old days when monopolies were rampant with their excellent customer service and product advancement. Psych!!

[Q]: Unlocking Infuse to access other networks?

I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch to Verizon but not at the cost of buying a brand new phone when I have my beloved Infuse, and the deposit.
I actually have NOT rooted my Infuse because I liked the stock so much, saw no need to. I did have a rooted Galaxy S, as well as a rooted Nook, so I'm not a complete noob.
I'm just nervous about unlocking my phone to possibly hook it up with Verizon. Can you tell me how this works? After unlocking are you sure it'll be 100% to use with Verizon?
Anything else I need to know? How's your mother doing?

I don't think the infuse will work with Verizon. Verizon uses cdma and infuse is a gsm phone. How's tmobile over there? It'll work but with slow data speeds.
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Ugh, eff. This is going to suck. Tmobile is shiz, too. I was really hoping to avoid having to spend $200+ plus whatever security deposit requirements. I've been with AT&T over 5 years.
Grr.

Idk infuse maybe compatible with cdma, I've seen the option to use it in a special menu somewhere, its regularly set for cdma/gsm so it maybe able to use Verizon but I'm no developer so I'm not to sure
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Plus isn't T-Mobile at&t anyway. Don't they use the same towers? I thought I heard at&t bought t-mobile
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You could try switching to Credo, which uses sprint's towers and you wouldn't lose any money.
They will buy out your at&t contract if you switch to them, so you don't have to pay at&t early termination fees. If you sign their contract, you can also get the sprint sgs2 For $200 and just sell your infuse to cover that cost. So you would have to drop some money at first but get it all back.
I've been considering doing this because Credo spends their money on things like lobbying against sopa/pipa, whereas at&t is really into censoring the uses of our phones.
Edit:
Contract buyout info
http://www.credomobile.com/specialoffers/
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goobieracing said:
Plus isn't T-Mobile at&t anyway. Don't they use the same towers? I thought I heard at&t bought t-mobile
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The merger did not happen.
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zOMGrae said:
I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch
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If service sucks in your house, look into getting a used Microcell from Ebay or Craigslist. On principle I hate the fact I have to use my own broadband connection, buy my own device, and still have my minutes and data usage count against my monthly alottment but that's the way AT&T plays. If it's the entire area you are in then maybe a carrier change is in order.
The Samsung Infuse is a GSM phone. It does not have the capability to connect to CDMA networks (Verizon, Sprint, and any of the MVNOs using Sprint or Verizon's network).
If unlocked, you can use any SIM from another GSM carrier and make voice calls. You will also be able to use Edge (2G) data coverage from any GSM carrier.
In the US, the two largest GSM carriers are AT&T and T-Mobile. They use different 3G frequencies which means using a phone originally for AT&T on T-Mobile only allows you 2G data speeds and vice versa (in general... though some T-Mobile smartphones can use AT&T's 1900Mhz band)
Hope that helps. Unlike Europe and Asia, our phones are by and large locked to their respective carriers even if you unlock them because of the technology difference and frequency differences.

zOMGrae said:
I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch to Verizon but not at the cost of buying a brand new phone when I have my beloved Infuse, and the deposit.
I actually have NOT rooted my Infuse because I liked the stock so much, saw no need to. I did have a rooted Galaxy S, as well as a rooted Nook, so I'm not a complete noob.
I'm just nervous about unlocking my phone to possibly hook it up with Verizon. Can you tell me how this works? After unlocking are you sure it'll be 100% to use with Verizon?
Anything else I need to know? How's your mother doing?
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Won't work on VZ... sorry bro.
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