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Canadian Nexus S: Unlocked?

For any of you who have bought a Nexus S *in Canada* from any of the carriers - Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido, Koodo, Virgin, Mobilicity, Wind, Videotron...
Can you confirm that your phone came SIM-unlocked out of the box? Or does anyone have signs of a carrier lock?

all Nexus phones are unlocked

AllGamer said:
all Nexus phones are unlocked
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We'd like to hope so. But I am asking owners of these specific models, bought from CDN carriers, to confirm that fact once and for all.

it will be in violation of the google / nexus brand if they locked
google will not let telcos tarnish their image

Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.

htc fan89 said:
Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.
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Nope they weren't - it was confirmed that the Mobi N1 came unlocked. Don't know about Videotron's, but I presume the same.
Still, Bell/Telus/Rogers just don't seem like the kind of companies to allow themselves to sell something without a SIM lock. Which is why I'm asking about the NS.

I can personally confirm the Telus NS is unlocked (sim) using both a virgin and Rogers Sim.
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Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.

I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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dinan said:
Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.
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And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.

sal14m said:
I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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Where are you that you could buy one already today?

bfksc said:
Where are you that you could buy one already today?
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Thinking the same thing. I was thinking of grabbing one today to play with over the weekend.
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I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.

Matridom said:
I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.
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I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.

bfksc said:
And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.
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You can't buy from robelus without either a multi-year contract or severely over-inflated prices, and you can't buy from anyone else without paying full price up front. Nobody loses a dime by buying from the wrong carrier.... except for the carrier who lost the sale.
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.

dhkr234 said:
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Don't be so biased...the AWS version is only useful to those on 1700/AWS band, so obviously it's the one to get if you're with Wind or the others. If you're with Bell or the others then the obvious choice is the NAM version. And the 850/1900/NAM version also works in Europe just like the AWS version as both have 2100 radios.

dhkr234 said:
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Talk about misinformation...

Weird I went to 2 Future Shops in Oakville, I think there are only 2 here, and both tried to sell me a Nexus unlocked. So no aggro here
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Having been a Fido customer on my AWS Nexus One for several months before Vancouver's first AWS carrier launched... I would not wish on any phone geek the torture of owning a an awesome new "superphone" that feels so snappy and delightful in so many ways... but can't access the 3G speeds they're already paying for.
Buy the phone that matches your carrier's frequencies. There are plenty of these to go around. If you switch to another carrier, trade it. Or hold out for something like the LG G2X which will be quad-band UMTS 850/AWS/1900/2100 *and* dual-core.

bfksc said:
I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.
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When i went in on Thursday night, I was told the same thing. They had stock, but it was not in the system. This is true for consumers. Fortunately, I'm a corporate customer and a quick call to my sales rep got everything sorted out, turns out the business sku's ARE in the system. After about 1/2 hour, i walked out of the store with my phone.
I hope you where not the guy behind me who was told "No, you can't have one" by the sales rep while i was unboxing mine. I felt really bad for that guy.
Also keep in mind that not all telus stores are the same. Look in your phone book for Telus and go to one of those stores, not on of the "Telus by XXXXX". When you get into a store owned and operated by Telus, you can get a lot more done.

Sim free £530 at phones4u

I went to my phones4u and asked if they have the sensation sim-free. The guy said they can sell it for £530
I compared the the size with the gs2 and the gs2 looks like its the same size but the sensation feels smaller.
I'm really tempted but is it worth the extra £30?
Perhaps I can haggle them =P
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I'm guessing that if they have one to sell you now then it will still be vodafone branded as they are exclusive to vodafone until early/mid june... so be careful.
When the unlocked/unbranded versions are available you should expect to get one cheaper than that. Handtec are now taking pre-orders for them at £497.99 inc vat and theirs will be available at the same time as all others selling the unbranded version I guess.

Yes, it is still Vodafone branded, though unlocked...I had them check one in my local Phones4U.
I was going to try a SGS2 but with the news that HTC are reviewing their bootloader policy I will probably wait a bit now!

I guess ill hold out a little bit longer. The 1st of July I believe is the expected date but hopefully it will be sooner!
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amazon uk are taking pre orders for June 15th £499.99

animaleyes76 said:
amazon uk are taking pre orders for June 15th £499.99
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ahh so they are
Link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Sensati...SJ78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306336465&sr=8-1
Dates are subject to change. Carphonewarehouse says July on their site, also subject to change.
I'd rather try out a demo before I buy. Shame they usually display non-working models .

nicky041192 said:
ahh so they are
Link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Sensati...SJ78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306336465&sr=8-1
Dates are subject to change. Carphonewarehouse says July on their site, also subject to change.
I'd rather try out a demo before I buy. Shame they usually display non-working models .
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Go into a store and ask to try one as you're thinking of buying and then if you're happy buy online when available.

rider5512 said:
Go into a store and ask to try one as you're thinking of buying and then if you're happy buy online when available.
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I didn't want the guy to open a brand new box when I'm not buying it on the day.

It's 469 euro on Vodafone Pay as yo Go in Ireland. It's also not sim locked
http://www.vodafone.ie/df/prepay/new/index.jsp?handset=HTCSE&manufacturerSelected=ALL

is it possible to buy sensation from vodafone ie and use it in a different country?

sert89 said:
is it possible to buy sensation from vodafone ie and use it in a different country?
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would be nice to do so....anyone can confirm this?

sert89 said:
is it possible to buy sensation from vodafone ie and use it in a different country?
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You will be able to use it alright as we use the bands as the UK. Not sure whether the website will accept a non Irish credit card or delivery address though.
Who in the UK does not have family in Ireland though..

alireza_simkesh said:
would be nice to do so....anyone can confirm this?
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check it here
http://www.celluloco.com/htc-sensat...rbread-smartphone-with-8mbpixel--pr-3425.html

sert89 said:
is it possible to buy sensation from vodafone ie and use it in a different country?
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The unbranded version will be out in about two weeks, I think at this point waiting for that one is worthwhile.

I have a UK Vodafone Sensation and it is SIMFREE, has been so out-of-the-box.
Yesterday I Visited Phones4U in Manchester wanting to buy a unit for someone. We tried it in store and it was LOCKED to Vodafone, worked only with Vodafone SIM.
I guess they were in rush to supply units to the stores on 19th May and had had no time to lock them, but did so for following shipments.

west2cool said:
check it here
http://www.celluloco.com/htc-sensat...rbread-smartphone-with-8mbpixel--pr-3425.html
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800$ is too too expensive...T-mobile is supposed to have it for 500$ on June 8th....

sert89 said:
is it possible to buy sensation from vodafone ie and use it in a different country?
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Amazon UK now 29th June.
Why was i stupid enough to believe their provisional date... Past experience should have told me it was gonna be a let down
((((((((

I went to phones4u in London yesterday and was going to get the Sensation with the £35 Vodafone contract.
I asked if I could try my T-Mobile sim it, and it worked, so they let me buy the phone for £529 without the contract.
So my advice is: try it in the store first with your existing sim.

delboy98 said:
I went to phones4u in London yesterday and was going to get the Sensation with the £35 Vodafone contract.
I asked if I could try my T-Mobile sim it, and it worked, so they let me buy the phone for £529 without the contract.
So my advice is: try it in the store first with your existing sim.
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Was there any branding on it? Such as boot logo and bloatware?
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nicky041192 said:
Was there any branding on it? Such as boot logo and bloatware?
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No physical branding on the outside of the phone.
You see the Vodafone logo for literally 2 seconds when you first boot up, and even then it's not the word 'Vodafone', just the logo of the inverted comma which isn't intrusive at all.
There are 3 Vodafone apps installed: 360 Shop, 360 Updates and Music Shop, but obviously you can remove those from the home screen, although I couldn't remove the actual apps themselves.

[Q] Asia/Europe Version Sensation for T-zone / Web2go?

I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!

****ting said:
I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.

xnifex said:
1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?

Good question. Does the International version of the Sensational work on Tzones or Web2Go?
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****ting said:
Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
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The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..

OccasionalDroid said:
The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
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That wasn't the question though, was it?
He wants to know if T-Mobile US will allow an Asia/Europe Sensation to work with grandfathered T-Zones or web2go data plans. It has nothing to do with the bands. It has to do with T-Mobile's locking down of certain smartphones so that they can't use T-Zones or web2go regardless if they have AWS or not.

Since the phone's not out yet in the U.S., the majority of posters here are from the EU. They have no idea what T-Zones are. For my international friends, it's a legacy dumb-phone plan that allows you to use 3/4G data on an unlimited basis for half the price of the smartphone data plan. He's asking about the European IMEI because if T-Mobile U.S. has it in their database than T-Zones will be blocked.
OP, I'd ask again when more people in the U.S. actually have the phone.
P.S. - Since all the phones have AWS, I'd imagine that HTC provided T-Mobile U.S. with the full range of IEMIs. Just guessing but it makes sense.

Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?

Cheeze[iT] said:
Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.

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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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Thank you all for your answers, but this is my first thread in XDA. Since this phone is made in China, I can import one from China for less than $600. Would be interesting to see if T-mobile blocks all the IMEIs. I got my dad a Huawei U8150, which is the same as the T-mobile Comet, but T-mobile has no idea what that phone is. So it works fine on the web2go plan. I almost pull the trigger to have my friend in China ship me a sensation, but I'll wait for a couple more weeks.

Because I can get the EU version easier than the US version and wanted to be sure before I placed an order.... that and I was a little drunk
Now last question s about the rom, will the EU be able to have the US rom flashed to it
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.

****ting said:
according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.

onxda said:
Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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right, I guess we need a brave tester to let us all know.

I just got the HTC Incredible S, which does work on T-Zones/Web2go.
However, if someone does get Euro HTC Sensation, let us know if it works.

i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out

zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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That's awesome! please let us know, i'm sure lots of people are eager to find out as well.

zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.

Not many ratings for Hi-Mobile.net. I honestly wouldn't trust them.
Integrontech.com- has reviews and seller feedback. $599.99- free shipping.

Paten said:
Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
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I bought mine from Negri Electronics because i was watching reviews and this one review from like pocketnow or some pretty good review website said they got it from there and it was the cheapest i could find. it was $625 free shipping. but im from hawaii so i had to pay for the 2day air shipping for $30

[Q] Importing from Canada

Hello,
I resided in Colorado here in the states. I want to obtain a Sensation 4G from Canada (Bell or Virgin Mobile) but despite hours of trying to figure this out I simply can not figure out how to import one. Bell and VM will not ship to the US and they also want a person to sign up for a 30 day term even buying a unlocked full price phone. On top of this I can not seem to find an resellers who will ship one of these to me here in the US.
To clarify I am on AT&T and as such need one of these phones as T-Mobile's model will not work for 4G
Any advice on this would be great, Thank you.

id hate to say it, but youre SOL for the time being...bell HATES their hardware going anywhere but bell, and as for virgin, theyre a little more leinent, but wont ship out of canada...your best bet is to try to strike an arrangement/deal with a canadian XDA member to buy and ship one to you...
the other downside is that the canadian S4G isnt carrier unlocked yet

Thank you very much for the information, this is exactly what I feared. I think I might need to just put my money in my sock drawer for now and wait at atleast for them to start unlocking the phones before going through the hassle of contacting a friend in Canada to have them ship me a phone.
Thanks again.

I bought a Bell Sensation 4G from Wireless Wave for the full price ($549 CAD). There were no hassles, contracts, etc.
The only downside at the moment is there are no unlock codes available for Bell Sensation IMEIs; supposedly, this should become available this week.

There are several online shops that will ship to you, I have one myself. Just waiting for the unlock codes

Funk2641 said:
There are several online shops that will ship to you, I have one myself. Just waiting for the unlock codes
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Can you point me in the direction of a specific shop? I can not seem to find one.

routehero said:
I bought a Bell Sensation 4G from Wireless Wave for the full price ($549 CAD). There were no hassles, contracts, etc.
The only downside at the moment is there are no unlock codes available for Bell Sensation IMEIs; supposedly, this should become available this week.
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Was this purchase from a physical store or the website?

Jeffery.Lenz said:
Can you point me in the direction of a specific shop? I can not seem to find one.
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http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
I got mine from Negri...problem is, it's still locked

Funk2641 said:
I got mine from Negri...problem is, it's still locked
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Shame neither location has them, and they are significantly more expensive then the cell carrier prices.
i am also curious what carrier your phone is locked to?

Jeffery.Lenz said:
Shame neither location has them, and they are significantly more expensive then the cell carrier prices.
i am also curious what carrier your phone is locked to?
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I use Att as well, the phone is locked to Bell at the moment. Just waiting till the unlocked codes are available.

Check the unlock threads in General guys, the codes are out. Should be super easy to get one now as long as your willing to pay full price.

Where can I buy international HTC Sensation Z710E? USA Buyer

I am in the United States, where can I buy non branded T-mobile phone HTC Sensation Z710E at the best price?
Thanks!

Wait.. You want the T-Mobile Version of the Sensation without branding? Is that possible? (Without debranding..)

I want the non-tmobile version the international version to use on Tmobile USA
I know it can be done as im using one right now that i bought on craigslist but am looking for another one through ha online retailer or such.

i have an asian Z710E that i bought on ebay singapore for about $450 US.. you can also try the european version on ebay.uk
it was worth it to keep my $5 tzones plan

i guess i'll ebay uk but was wondering if there was any cheap sites in the U.S.

I would be interested to know what benefits will you get buying international version over the Tmous version?

I can use my t-zones plan on the international one.
Again this thread is for U.S. folks, need some insight where U.s. folks buy their internatioanl version phones.

Wouldn't you be stuck on 2G Internet?
Ebay is your best bet
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overthinkingme said:
Wouldn't you be stuck on 2G Internet?
Ebay is your best bet
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nope.. im getting 5-8mb/sec downloads on my $5/mo tzones plan... no bandwidth caps either... this is why i forked over $450 for an international sensation
more info: http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile#T-Zones
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i guess i'll ebay uk but was wondering if there was any cheap sites in the U.S.
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nope, ive looked for months, unless you get real lucky, an international ebay site (ie uk or singapore) is your best bet since the only people in the USA who have an internation sensation are probably like me and you and specifically need that version and will not sell for cheap since they know the value of it.

Wouldn't debranding hypothetically work?

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Wouldn't debranding hypothetically work?
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nope... t-zones compatibility is determined by your IMEI

So how do you know which one is the international version? I have an HTC sensation that bought from craigslist in new condition. It's rooted, flashed and now I got it unlocked However now I'm wondering what exactly I have and with which company I can use it with. I bought it to try it with T-mobile but I've been trying to figure out if I can use it with AT&T 3G or other companies since I travel a bit.
Mine does not have T-mobile written anywhere. The model is Z710e.
I have not activated it with T-mobile but I do have a sim card and its getting a signal.

I'm currently in Korea right now so if you're still interested, I can go to a phone shop and inquire how much it would cost. I can't guarantee that the phone will be unlocked and unbranded but it definitely will be an international phone... (Can't guarantee that it will work in the States. The guy says that it should but he's not sure.)

rustyxj6 said:
So how do you know which one is the international version? I have an HTC sensation that bought from craigslist in new condition. It's rooted, flashed and now I got it unlocked However now I'm wondering what exactly I have and with which company I can use it with. I bought it to try it with T-mobile but I've been trying to figure out if I can use it with AT&T 3G or other companies since I travel a bit.
Mine does not have T-mobile written anywhere. The model is Z710e.
I have not activated it with T-mobile but I do have a sim card and its getting a signal.
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if it doesnt have any T-Mobile branding on it then it is not a US phone... there is also a Z710a model from Canada that wont work with US 3g/4G