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To all you HTC fanboys and sensation owners....

http://m.bgr.com/2011/09/01/htc-sensation-and-evo-3d-revealed-to-be-spying-on-users/
Enjoy
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I saw that. Hahahahaha......
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And of course this extra data counts against usage, I'm sure.
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Lame news
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If they can't access my personal items, I could care less.

Sucks for them. Although we had GoToMyPC on ours? WTH?

As much as I love android I have always said don't be surprised if Google is in bed with big brother... so all you HTC owners... who got porn on their phone...lmao
meh...

You're a fool if you think your smartphone isn't sending information about you to big brother. You have a tracking device on you whenever you have a phone with a battery in it - be in on or off. NEVER think your conversations are private. Never think you location isn't known.

that explains it
dkb218 said:
You're a fool if you think your smartphone isn't sending information about you to big brother. You have a tracking device on you whenever you have a phone with a battery in it - be in on or off. NEVER think your conversations are private. Never think you location isn't known.
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its not that the g2x gps is poor due to LG's inability to program android. they actually broke it on purpose so we wouldnt be tracked . thansk LG.

eagle1967 said:
its not that the g2x gps is poor due to LG's inability to program android. they actually broke it on purpose so we wouldnt be tracked . thansk LG.
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Haha and running cm7 its even worse right lol
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eagle1967 said:
its not that the g2x gps is poor due to LG's inability to program android. they actually broke it on purpose so we wouldnt be tracked . thansk LG.
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Ahhh LG = Less Government. I approve.
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dkb218 said:
You're a fool if you think your smartphone isn't sending information about you to big brother. You have a tracking device on you whenever you have a phone with a battery in it - be in on or off. NEVER think your conversations are private. Never think you location isn't known.
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I agree but also say "who cares?" I don't do anything illegal. Track me all you want big brother! ;-)
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r4d14n7 said:
I agree but also say "who cares?" I don't do anything illegal. Track me all you want big brother! ;-)
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Unfortunately this is the prevailing mindset in America today. We disregard our inalienable right to privacy by saying "spy away gov't, I'm not hiding anything!". It sets up a precedent which marginalizes the demand for privacy, desensitizing everyone from this right. Then, anyone who demands privacy appears to be hiding something when in reality, Uncle Sam has no goddamned business prying in my affairs without probable cause whether or not I am breaking the law.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Unfortunately this is the prevailing mindset in America today. We disregard our inalienable right to privacy by saying "spy away gov't, I'm not hiding anything!". It sets up a precedent which marginalizes the demand for privacy, desensitizing everyone from this right. Then, anyone who demands privacy appears to be hiding something when in reality, Uncle Sam has no goddamned business prying in my affairs without probable cause whether or not I am breaking the law.
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You can't catch **** before it happens and want total privacy, doesn't work. Most Americans don't want tragedy to strike again, and this is why the American Gov't must impose this and that to make sure they cover themselves. Heaven forbid a day come where we see Pearl 9/11 2.0 and the government had the technology to prevent it, but didn't because it would "impose on the rights of the people".
Spy away... keep America safe. Simple logic, don't want something on your phone compromised? Don't keep it on your phone.

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You can't catch **** before it happens and want total privacy, doesn't work. Most Americans don't want tragedy to strike again, and this is why the American Gov't must impose this and that to make sure they cover themselves. Heaven forbid a day come where we see Pearl 9/11 2.0 and the government had the technology to prevent it, but didn't because it would "impose on the rights of the people".
Spy away... keep America safe. Simple logic, don't want something on your phone compromised? Don't keep it on your phone.
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It is also your inalienable right to be irrevocably, unapologetically wrong.
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mr2324jgf said:
You can't catch **** before it happens and want total privacy, doesn't work. Most Americans don't want tragedy to strike again, and this is why the American Gov't must impose this and that to make sure they cover themselves. Heaven forbid a day come where we see Pearl 9/11 2.0 and the government had the technology to prevent it, but didn't because it would "impose on the rights of the people".
Spy away... keep America safe. Simple logic, don't want something on your phone compromised? Don't keep it on your phone.
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
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Sorry. I despise the whole 'if you have nothing to hide' BS. The government now wants to operate with privacy from the people but wants to deny our INALIENABLE right to not be spied upon ourselves. This is in complete and total opposition to the way things should be.

America sucks.....wait, sorry, its the people that run America that suck and make it suck for everyone else. The true sheep trust Washington .....pfft.
Its a shame America is no longer for Americans. I have faith in our system, its the people that run it I have no faith in. Start speaking Chinese people, we may become the united states of China
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In order to prevent terrorism, freedoms must be bent. Fact of life in today's world. I understand the counterargument. It's just my choice to give up some of my freedoms to prevent terrorism. And I already have less freedoms than most of you as I'm an active duty US Military member.
This is basically an argument that no one can win, but it's always interesting to read others' opinions.

r4d14n7 said:
In order to prevent terrorism, freedoms must be bent. Fact of life in today's world. I understand the counterargument. It's just my choice to give up some of my freedoms to prevent terrorism. And I already have less freedoms than most of you as I'm an active duty US Military member.
This is basically an argument that no one can win, but it's always interesting to read others' opinions.
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I was active duty military.
This is still BS.
What happens when every 10 years or so we give up just a little bit more of our freedoms for a false sense of security? Just a little more. I'm willing to give up just a little more. Repeat...and repeat....and repeat. Next thing you know they're all gone and your country has become a military state with little to no freedom of any kind. All for the sake of protecting the people, of course. Why don't we just take away everyone's ability to choose anything while we're at it. Then they'll be so much easier to manage and keep safe.
Freedoms should never be bent to protect freedom..

Not really belonging in the G2X forum

SOPA bill hearings - no opponents allowed

moving to canada as soon as i get the money and gas money.
http://www.yousaytoo.com/congressio...-the-bill-allowed/1434936#.Tsl5xNcWPKM.tumblr
SCREW THIS GOVERNMENT.

All they're accomplishing by doing this is stirring even more public distrust and hatred towards the government.

You Americans always...You think your government are downright assholes?Come to Greece!The place where idiocy is considered a fundamental "trait" if someone wants to lead the country.
I'm so depressed now...

With the current nutjobs in the majority in the House I am not suprised. All they are about is tax cuts for the rich and de-regulate all big corporations and banks so they can rob us and poison us at the same time. It is just creeping fascism, but maybe the "creeping" is actually "running" now days. Couple that with the Roberts SCOTUS that says that corporations are people and money is speech (Citizen's united) and are allowed to buy elections, we are screwed.
Since the elite have already bought off the corporate "news" media, now they want the last bastion of free speech, the "internets".

This is really a secret conspiracy hatched by the VPN providers to force everyone to use their services or risk being thrown in jail.

Actually its Hollywood. The same people who tried to sue back in the 90's to ban mp3 players.
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The thing is also Google does have lobbyists in congress and Google is against it. Sony is too, and Microsoft Telecom hate it too
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Kiboe said:
The thing is also Google does have lobbyists in congress and Google is against it. Sony is too, and Microsoft Telecom hate it too
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As big as Hollywood companies are, Google, Sony, and Microsoft are a LOT bigger.
This bill won't pass, not with companies like this trying to stop it, because we all know who can pay the government more.

Wow , such corruption and bribery can never be tolerated in Singapore
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funny thing is even Google and other big online guys are against this SOPA bill
In another post, Tepp said that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "will always stand" on the "side of American businesses"--an odd statement given that the list of businesses opposed to SOPA includes eBay, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, AOL, Zynga, and many other technology companies. (See CNET's FAQ and our previous coverage of security concerns.)
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well... ****. Am I the only one who saw internet censorship coming?
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**** like this makes me want to just throw away technology and move to a mountanous area in some third world country.
here's the link to sign the petition against this bs: http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/sopa_testimony/?akid=1018.606560.JTkqV4&rd=1&t=2
share it on facebook, twitter etc.. make your voices heard

tolis626 said:
You Americans always...You think your government are downright assholes?Come to Greece!The place where idiocy is considered a fundamental "trait" if someone wants to lead the country.
I'm so depressed now...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK63eUyk-iM&feature=related
Ahhh. greece.. it just as nice as i thought it would be.

I was lmfao when i saw this bill. This bill is going to drop harder than anything. Piracy actually helps sales. One friend pirates movie oh i saw that movie etc you should see it to.
If it does pass piracy is going to be hitting harder than it was before. Movies will be pirated while the scene is actually taking place. Behind the scenes all the time.

Sad thing is that these companies are legally allowed to bribe our elected officials through a process called lobbying.
Lobbying should be illegal.
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jordanishere said:
Sad thing is that these companies are legally allowed to bribe our elected officials through a process called lobbying.
Lobbying should be illegal.
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The problem is that the same people who could make lobbying illegal are the politicians getting the money! They are enjoying their payoffs way too much to make a law against getting free money from lobbyists

DaveC1964 said:
The problem is that the same people who could make lobbying illegal are the politicians getting the money! They are enjoying their payoffs way too much to make a law against getting free money from lobbyists
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It's a vicious cycle...
Too bad we can't really do anything about it.. Who doesn't want free money?

I wonder why "big pharma" would be against it. Canadian online drugstores making that big a dent in their profits or are they afraid of the free exchange of homeopathic remedies or is it (most likely) that the internet makes it easier for people who have suffered severe side effects from their overpriced medicines to find each other and start class action suits?

You can fight this and many other horrible bills that our bought congress creates at demandprogress.org. They organize many petitions against these bills.

Silent Sms attacks/tracking

so apparently the German government (and other entities) have been using silent sms attacks to keep tabs on its civilians
they send a silent sms to someones phone, it dosent show up at all on their device, but it pings back Imei numbers and other info, which can be cross reffed with the operator log of the towers and used to compile an entire movement profile for an individual
now i dont know about you but as an upstanding citizen this kind of crap concerns the heck outta me.
i believe further exploration into some sort of defense against ssms attacks is in order but it is way above my paygrade

I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.

It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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Eeroz said:
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
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Not the OS developers, it purely has to do with the carriers. I remember reading a lot about similar things in the past, like pinging a phone, class 0 sms', etc. Does anyone have any related links, whether relating to the governments use or these pinging sms' in general? Sounds like an interesting topic!

ishmael345 said:
It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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I hear you there. Look at the new chip they want in all cell phones in the US starting this year for government based SMS for terrorist threats and amber alerts. Wonder why it is gonna be connected to the GPS and phone mic?

I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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Any proof about this?

Do a search for Fema chips in cell phones and see.

zeekiz said:
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.

hungry81 said:
To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.

zelendel said:
Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.

M_Nation said:
I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I know that maybe a bit harsh but some of my freinds were those that stood up for our rights and freedom and for someone to say its OK for a government to remove that right rubs me wrong.
I would to if you were innocent until proven guilty but we all know that is not the case anymore. Now you are guilty until proven innocent.
I think the days of thinking that our government is out for the good of people is long over.

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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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Oh for my "protection" well thats okay then.
So whats your stance on carrier IQ then? after all its only sending information that will make our phone using experiance better, And from a safety issue SOPA and the Australian internet filter are brilliant, Means I can not access those nasty sites that will put me at risk, Just like in China. It does not stink of isolationisim and control at all. And all no one should want ANYTHING kept private if they are not breaking the law should they? Infact privacy breeds suscpicion. How about for everyones safety you post your private details and smses as well as your daily schedule so we know you are not going around consorting with terroists or drug dealers.

Anyone who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
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forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.

Mainspring said:
forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
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^^^^--- This.
Anyway, as far as being able to track you they would need probable cause to even begin to attempt to defend themselves if any government type decides to do this. At least enough to warrant a search a seizure. I don't know how the laws are outside of the states but I can imagine unless you're in a dictatorship or you live in a communist nation the laws are similar.
Higher-ups have always been able to do this, that's not the question. The question is the legitimacy of the situations that they decide to use their power.

LOL
I love you guys who born and grow up in the US. and Western part where democracy is practicing daily.
Coming off a communist country, I love freedom a lot but ......... if you do no harm to the nation, no harm to the country, no harm to the community and no harm to anybody, then you SHOULD NEVER worry about it.
If you say "Obama is suck and I hate him" you not gonna be jailed for that.
If you say "I hate white president and I never vote for those again", you not gonna be fined for that.
If you say "I just have sex with my g/f and she moans like crazy", they not gonna care to listen to your conversation.
But if you are up to something, potentially put the nation, commnunity at risk, yes, you are deserved to lock up for the rest of your life as the safety issue for the rest.
Period.

Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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hungry81 said:
Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Look at all the articles about how carriers gave the FBI an open ticket to their systems. The government has been doing unwarrented wire taps for years now in the name of security which is BS.
As for the previous comment no you don't get in trouble for things like that but let me tell you a true story about a buddy of mine.
He and his girlfreind got into an argument where she made up lies about how he said he would kill her for threating to run away with their child. The cops find him on a bus leaving state. Tosses him in jail for 4 weeks until he sees a judge as their is no bail in the state for demestic issues. Then he get 6 months probation and has to pay $4000 in fines. Cant go to trial as she cant be found. Now he has assault on his record and is having trouble finding work as all it says is ASSAULT nothing else. All for words he never said. But even if he had it was still just words. Nothing more. No history of violence. Just an empty threat.
Yeah freedom right. Guilty until proven innocent

Wow, never heard this until now

Verizon Wireless draws fire for monitoring customers' app usage, Web browsing..

I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
I don't like big brother monitoring.

hmoobguy said:
I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
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I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..

I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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I clicked it and it kept logging me out of my Verizon account and just showing the main splash page.

Mystikalrush said:
I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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Just log in to myverizon and go to privacy settings. Should bring up a page with all your lines under each section and you can select the bubble to opt out.

Custom ROM tracking?
Does this still apply to users with a custom ROM?

Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Yeah, if you don't think that Bush handed him the keys right before firmly pointing the economy at the iceberg and tying steering wheel in place before doing so, than your mistaken.. And being prior military and working in intelligence, I can tell you that every electronic ANYTHING is being archived and saved and scanned for keywords since way before Obama. Eery single one of your emails and voice conversations and IM's and posts. Hmm and who put the Patriot Act in place.. hmm.. Have a Lovely day talking to big brother.. Oh by the way.. They prefer sexting.
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Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?

I'm pretty sure most companies track your online habbits. They claim the use it for "market research". On my phone I'm not really that bothered by it, I don't do anything on it that I want to keep private, because I don't trust how private they are.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless you are embarassed you look at porn on your phone. Just keep things you would like to be personal and not tracked heavily on a properly secured connection at home, and possibly use TOR if you are that paranoid and want a little extra security.
Actually, I believe there is Tor available for android. It may help cut down on what they know your doing.

yawn, who cares???

Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Yeah, let's not make this a presidential debate thread.
I've always liked Verizon, but lately I'm getting tired of them. I'm following the link to opt out.
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I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...

xsteven77x said:
Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
Gs3

blestsol said:
Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
Gs3
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Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)

Brian Gove said:
Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)
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Yes. That's exactly what I meant. When someone is referring to another comment they're automatically bunched in.
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Gs3

Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.

Brian Gove said:
Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?
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You may want to check your facts there....

Farabomb said:
Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.
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Best statement of the day! Now back to tech news, I hate politics.

cvsolidx17 said:
I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...
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I don't mind some monitoring but when they collect everything!? That's a little overboard IMO. I want an option to op out. I don't care about their strategic advertisements for my use. I guess there's no way stop them until theyre a law suit against them.

Question............

I know I"m going to get **** asking this, Ive searched but maybe I'm not seeing it. I have Andriod verison 4.0.4 and I'm wanting to root my phone. The last phone I rooted was my G2x from T-mobile and I used super one click to Root it. Can I use super one click for my sky rocket

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773659
Read.
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toyes said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773659
Read.
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toyes said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773659
Read.
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There's also this link, which includes everything you need to know. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785999

You didn't search at all.
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op prolly voted for Obama.

bearclaw7380 said:
op prolly voted for Obama.
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Skyrocket23 voted romney.
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bearclaw7380 said:
op prolly voted for Obama.
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no actually i wouldn't vote for obama's ass if he was the only one running.....and yes i did search for it but i must of over looked it

bearclaw7380 said:
op prolly voted for Obama.
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bearclaw7380 probably believes in jesus.

bearclaw7380 said:
op prolly voted for Obama.
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What does Obama have to do with this? I'd rather have Obama in office than Romney who bases his decisions from talking to the great cloud magician.

Yeah nothing like communism..
You sir should do your own research and stop watching msnbc.
His policies are communistic and have failed throughout history.
Just yesterday he said " I will not compromise with the house because I know what is right for the country"
He thinks he is a f u c k i n g emperor!
Don't get me started on
Gun control..
This is not the place for politics but since you brought it up read this from Russia with love:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/
Obama is a dictator.

mr_magoo said:
Yeah nothing like communism..
You sir should do your own research and stop watching msnbc.
His policies are communistic and have failed throughout history.
Just yesterday he said " I will not compromise with the house because I know what is right for the country"
He thinks he is a f u c k i n g emperor!
Don't get me started on
Gun control..
This is not the place for politics but since you brought it up read this from Russia with love:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/
Obama is a dictator.
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I'd rather have a dictator than someone who talks to imaginary beings.

I do not believe in a god period. But Obama does (Christian God or Ala) so your point is void.
Oh yeah Hitler believed in a God too.
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mr_magoo said:
Yeah nothing like communism..
You sir should do your own research and stop watching msnbc.
His policies are communistic and have failed throughout history.
Just yesterday he said " I will not compromise with the house because I know what is right for the country"
He thinks he is a f u c k i n g emperor!
Don't get me started on
Gun control..
This is not the place for politics but since you brought it up read this from Russia with love:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/
Obama is a dictator.
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He's not a dictator, we have checks and balances. We already had a gun control discussion, but if you have a problem with any of the executive orders he pulled on gun control you're a serious right winger.
He mandated schools be taught drills for a shooter. He mandated federal databases are now integrated into the background check system. He lifted THE BAN ON FEDERAL RESEARCH into gun violence. Yeah. Ban on federal research. Good job NRA.
The entire civilized world has healthcare, yes. It's a bit communistic and it's not a good economic policy. Guess what, people don't deserve to die because they can't afford the care. You and your paycheck have to deal with it.
This really got off topic though
Edit; Agnostic atheist here. religion we have to stay away from. politics is fine, we can all have a level headed discussion about that. But religion hits too close to home for some people

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whosgotlag said:
He's not a dictator, we have checks and balances. We already had a gun control discussion, but if you have a problem with any of the executive orders he pulled on gun control you're a serious right winger.
He mandated schools be taught drills for a shooter. He mandated federal databases are now integrated into the background check system. He lifted THE BAN ON FEDERAL RESEARCH into gun violence. Yeah. Ban on federal research. Good job NRA.
The entire civilized world has healthcare, yes. It's a bit communistic and it's not a good economic policy. Guess what, people don't deserve to die because they can't afford the care. You and your paycheck have to deal with it.
This really got off topic though
Edit; Agnostic atheist here. religion we have to stay away from. politics is fine, we can all have a level headed discussion about that. But religion hits too close to home for some people
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Oh goody here we go!
I'm not a serious "right winger" but I served in the armed forces ( btw what have you done for your country?) I think weed should be legalized, because I have personally fought in these drug wars and have seen how little of an impact it has with great loss of lives. But only weed because it really is no more harmful then beer.
As for gun control, really? I guess you don't read the news?? Chicago has some of the toughest laws in the country yet they had more killings then any other city, 500 to be in fact.
More people where killed with hammers last year then guns. As a mater of fact only 1 percent of fatalities in the USA where caused by guns last year.
Do I own guns, yes. My first rifle was given to me at the ripe old age of twelve. A ruger 10/22 I have hunted rabbit with it ever since. I was taught well never kill what you are not going to eat. That is cruel.
And are health care system is second to none. Canadians come here and pay cash to use are services because there system is okay but not great. Even the King of Saudi Arabia came here when he was having hart problems.
Are health care system was just fine, mater a fact illegal immigrants have better health coverage then I do because I'm a natural born citizen..
Almost forgot your last comment, people are more likely to go without treatment under Obama's plane then they will now because under his plan a board decides whether treatment is needed. As it stands now a hospital does not have a choice, they must treat anyone who walks through the er
So your point is void.
Edit :
You can't be agnostic and atheist, they are a contradiction.
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mr_magoo said:
Oh goody here we go!
I'm not a serious "right winger" but I served in the armed forces ( btw what have you done for your country?) I think weed should be legalized, because I have personally fought in these drug wars and have seen how little of an impact it has with great loss of lives. But only weed because it really is no more harmful then beer.
As for gun control, really? I guess you don't read the news?? Chicago has some of the toughest laws in the country yet they had more killings then any other city, 500 to be in fact.
More people where killed with hammers last year then guns. As a mater of fact only 1 percent of fatalities in the USA where caused by guns last year.
Do I own guns, yes. My first rifle was given to me at the ripe old age of twelve. A ruger 10/22 I have hunted rabbit with it ever since. I was taught well never kill what you are not going to eat. That is cruel.
And are health care system is second to none. Canadians come here and pay cash to use are services because there system is okay but not great. Even the King of Saudi Arabia came here when he was having hart problems.
Are health care system was just fine, mater a fact illegal immigrants have better health coverage then I do because I'm a natural born citizen..
So your point is void.
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You mistook what I said man, first - sorry the 'right winger' but most arguments against gun control that I hear all focus on the idea that liberals want to take AWAY guns. They don't. They want to make it more difficult to get them.
Chicago is an awful city, there's much more at work there then gun control laws. You know this and I know this. Gun control is a hugely complicated issue, and each point we both make can be refuted by the other.
The executive orders that he did aren't communist though. Like I said, do you actually have trouble with schools been mandated to be aware of shooter protocol? Or that background check systems become syncd? Or that the CDC is now allowed to research gun violence again?
Our health CARE is good, we have some of the best doctors in the world. Our technology is amazing. Our COVERAGE wasn't great. Is there still problems? Yes. We were denying people with 'preexisting conditions' and leaving them to wither away and die. That's not okay.
Has Obama been perfect? Hell no. I'd much prefer him to Romney though.

whosgotlag said:
You mistook what I said man, first - sorry the 'right winger' but most arguments against gun control that I hear all focus on the idea that liberals want to take AWAY guns. They don't. They want to make it more difficult to get them.
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Yes they do sadly. Did you not read the article I posted?
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It's not complicated those that are good law abiding citizens that should have the right to have a weapon to defend themselves are not allowed. Those that choose not to follow the law, and know that fellow citizens that are law abiding do not have weapons, it makes it easy for them to bully them. Just as the current administration is trying to do to use now.
The executive orders that he did aren't communist though. Like I said said:
Well I kind of do, By there standards I would have never got my first rifle. I would not have brought back my first six rabbits gutted them and fed my family on my first hunt (btw we were on a deer hunt the rabbits were just dinner for the night) Do you hunt or fish? Did your father? I'm pretty sure your grandfather did.
The school drills aren't exactly new. When I was a kid it was earthquake drills and bombing drills. Yeah this guy is so forward thinking. Please..
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Of course you would, Mahmoud AhmadinejadIran was pleased as well.
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Take it to 4chan.