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Silent Sms attacks/tracking

so apparently the German government (and other entities) have been using silent sms attacks to keep tabs on its civilians
they send a silent sms to someones phone, it dosent show up at all on their device, but it pings back Imei numbers and other info, which can be cross reffed with the operator log of the towers and used to compile an entire movement profile for an individual
now i dont know about you but as an upstanding citizen this kind of crap concerns the heck outta me.
i believe further exploration into some sort of defense against ssms attacks is in order but it is way above my paygrade

I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.

It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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Eeroz said:
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
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Not the OS developers, it purely has to do with the carriers. I remember reading a lot about similar things in the past, like pinging a phone, class 0 sms', etc. Does anyone have any related links, whether relating to the governments use or these pinging sms' in general? Sounds like an interesting topic!

ishmael345 said:
It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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I hear you there. Look at the new chip they want in all cell phones in the US starting this year for government based SMS for terrorist threats and amber alerts. Wonder why it is gonna be connected to the GPS and phone mic?

I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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Any proof about this?

Do a search for Fema chips in cell phones and see.

zeekiz said:
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.

hungry81 said:
To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.

zelendel said:
Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.

M_Nation said:
I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I know that maybe a bit harsh but some of my freinds were those that stood up for our rights and freedom and for someone to say its OK for a government to remove that right rubs me wrong.
I would to if you were innocent until proven guilty but we all know that is not the case anymore. Now you are guilty until proven innocent.
I think the days of thinking that our government is out for the good of people is long over.

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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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Oh for my "protection" well thats okay then.
So whats your stance on carrier IQ then? after all its only sending information that will make our phone using experiance better, And from a safety issue SOPA and the Australian internet filter are brilliant, Means I can not access those nasty sites that will put me at risk, Just like in China. It does not stink of isolationisim and control at all. And all no one should want ANYTHING kept private if they are not breaking the law should they? Infact privacy breeds suscpicion. How about for everyones safety you post your private details and smses as well as your daily schedule so we know you are not going around consorting with terroists or drug dealers.

Anyone who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
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forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.

Mainspring said:
forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
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^^^^--- This.
Anyway, as far as being able to track you they would need probable cause to even begin to attempt to defend themselves if any government type decides to do this. At least enough to warrant a search a seizure. I don't know how the laws are outside of the states but I can imagine unless you're in a dictatorship or you live in a communist nation the laws are similar.
Higher-ups have always been able to do this, that's not the question. The question is the legitimacy of the situations that they decide to use their power.

LOL
I love you guys who born and grow up in the US. and Western part where democracy is practicing daily.
Coming off a communist country, I love freedom a lot but ......... if you do no harm to the nation, no harm to the country, no harm to the community and no harm to anybody, then you SHOULD NEVER worry about it.
If you say "Obama is suck and I hate him" you not gonna be jailed for that.
If you say "I hate white president and I never vote for those again", you not gonna be fined for that.
If you say "I just have sex with my g/f and she moans like crazy", they not gonna care to listen to your conversation.
But if you are up to something, potentially put the nation, commnunity at risk, yes, you are deserved to lock up for the rest of your life as the safety issue for the rest.
Period.

Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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hungry81 said:
Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Look at all the articles about how carriers gave the FBI an open ticket to their systems. The government has been doing unwarrented wire taps for years now in the name of security which is BS.
As for the previous comment no you don't get in trouble for things like that but let me tell you a true story about a buddy of mine.
He and his girlfreind got into an argument where she made up lies about how he said he would kill her for threating to run away with their child. The cops find him on a bus leaving state. Tosses him in jail for 4 weeks until he sees a judge as their is no bail in the state for demestic issues. Then he get 6 months probation and has to pay $4000 in fines. Cant go to trial as she cant be found. Now he has assault on his record and is having trouble finding work as all it says is ASSAULT nothing else. All for words he never said. But even if he had it was still just words. Nothing more. No history of violence. Just an empty threat.
Yeah freedom right. Guilty until proven innocent

Wow, never heard this until now

Help Stop this bill.

It is very important that everyone Has a chance to know about this bill. Because this Bill will most likely Greatly impact this website due to Modification of software, it is important that this bill is stopped. Please read the article Posted in this link.
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...8th-at-8am-you-can-help-bring-us-back-online/

What the hell this is bull****.
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Just gonna say. People can protest all they want but Congress is pretty much hell bent on getting it passed. The only solution I see is that when it is passed and most sites are blocked, people will be in outrage because they have all been in the dark about SOPA. Riots will ensue untill the Supreme Court rules it unconstitutional on the basis that it restricts peoples freedoms on the internet.
Whatever the case is, it will be gone in the future.
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R u really damn serious
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clarence79 said:
R u really damn serious
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Clarify your question please?
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Perfectly legal **** we're doing here. Developers aren't modificating software to steal money or sell anything, plus these sources are given to us....... We are just brains of this action...... We want better things that we just can't have, I mean what the ****. Torrents are illegal but yet they rather waste their time with XDA.
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The White House is against it isn't it?

The house and the senate are not f**kin around. From what i have read and seen on the news, this is some serious ****.
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Quite frankly, this bill should never be passed. I can understand wanting to protect artist's rights, but this is pushing it far beyond constitutional boundaries. Even if it is repealed though, I'm sure they won't hesitate to try again with a lighter variant, which would've otherwise been repealed..

You guys all know this will have far reaching consequences other than a few torrent sites going down right?
If this passes Youtube will cease to exist as you know it. It will be much too much work for them to filter new uploaded videos to make sure there is not any music clips, company logos, or other references that someone can close them down for. After awhile it will be too costly and too much work to maintain and police so Youtube may just go away forever.
Any site can be shut down for anything that someone thinks might have something on it related to a copyright of any kind. Someone could be sued for drawing a picture of the USS Enterprise and putting it on their site even. That is considered a copyright and illegal if the bill is passed.
You are guilty until proven innocent. Do you have the money for the lawyers to prove your innocence? Or is it easier to just shut your site down and not take the chance? If someone just doesn't like you they can claim you have copyrighted material and you will be shut down. If they find nothing then you can go back up but will it be worth the constant hassle?
On a forum such as this if someone has a picture as their avatar, or in their sig that someone somewhere has some rights to, the site can be shut down. It will make things a big chore to keep up with.
Make no mistake, this draconian bill will destroy the internet as you know it, and will effect much more than pirate sites.
In the US of A today what big corporations want, big corporations get. They own most of the law makers in Washington of both parties. Ever since the Citizens United ruling by the 5 right-wing corporatist justices that say "corporations are people and money is speech" politicians are beholden to corporate interests. If you as a politician go against the corporate powers that be , they will flood your opponent with advertizing cash to defeat you in the next election. This has already happened since the ruling. All this does is make any politician that wants to keep his job genuflect at the knees of corporate America. In this case the music and movie industry among others are driving this bill.
This is a BIG deal folks, even if you never will partcipate in any piracy of any kind.
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Optimus-Prime said:
The White House is against it isn't it?
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It seems so if you look around, I found this statement:
"Is the SOPA bill dead? In the wake of criticisms released by the Obama administration Saturday, many observers predict the Stop Online Privacy Act and its sister act, the Protect IP Act (or PIPA), are dead on arrival."
But that doesn't meant we can relax. Corporate America is ruthless when it comes to getting what they want (which is why we give billions of dollars in corporate welfare to super rich Exxon just so they can rip us off). We need to keep up the pressure.
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Just gonna say. People can protest all they want but Congress is pretty much hell bent on getting it passed. ... Riots will ensue untill the Supreme Court rules it unconstitutional on the basis that it restricts peoples freedoms on the internet.
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The Supreme court? That is a laugh. Not THIS Supreme court. The Roberts Supreme court LOVES corporate fascist stuff like this (see:Citizen's United).

Oh and here is something that passed while all Americans were distracted by the new year. (Link below) I'm farelly certain that if things get out of hand, with the Sopa bill, Obama will use his new found power.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...jan/02/ndaa-historic-assault-american-liberty
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I heard that Obama eats babies too.!!!!!
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apallohadas said:
I heard that Obama eats babies too.!!!!!
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With a spork!!
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Kevinr678 said:
With a spork!!
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While gettin a bubble bath from George Dubya Bush
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php
its been shelved

Face facts, our government already controls the media, filling people's heads full of the crap they want us to believe. They eventually will control everything and call it Homeland Security. They keep inventing new "evil ones" to keep us living in fear of "terror".
Read, read some more, use common sense and figure out what's going on. Our governments want us to be mindless, overweight, thoughtless zombies

Jep56 said:
Face facts, our government already controls the media, filling people's heads full of the crap they want us to believe. They eventually will control everything and call it Homeland Security. They keep inventing new "evil ones" to keep us living in fear of "terror".
Read, read some more, use common sense and figure out what's going on. Our governments want us to be mindless, overweight, thoughtless zombies
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+1 I agree so much I have been considering moving to Canada for a couple months now
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CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVEs
https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173

well it looks like that black out did quite a bit of damage. hahaha anyone else see "WTF WIKI?" tweets?

In an exciting turn of events, it turns out that Lamar Smith, the man behind SOPA, has actually used copyrighted material for his personal website without credit. And not just once, either.

Who is spying on me?

Does anyone know how to see if someone is spying on my internet usage on my phone? I'm using wimax and 3g
I just want to see if the government is spying
Maybe this is a delicate topic
But pretty interesting
I would love an app for that.

Hahahahahaha.
Wait, you're being serious?

Product F(RED) said:
Hahahahahaha.
Wait, you're being serious?
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Quote for emphasis.

seems to me someone has been watching to many sci-fi thrillers.

Jesushaxyou said:
Quote for emphasis.
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Quote because your username possibly answers the question.

Product F(RED) said:
Quote because your username possibly answers the question.
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Hahahahaha. Quote for FTW post.

detroit2hi said:
Does anyone know how to see if someone is spying on my internet usage on my phone? I'm using wimax and 3g
I just want to see if the government is spying
Maybe this is a delicate topic
But pretty interesting
I would love an app for that.
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No because if any spying was done it would be done after the data left your phone and therefore undetectable.
The usa and uk do have an agreement whereby each can monitor the others private citizens (yes it is real and has been discussed in the uk houses of parliament. Its called echelon and is a matter of public record in uk) but its highly doubtful you would be spyed on for no reason and not really something you could know if it did happen so not worth worrying over.
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No because if any spying was done it would be done after the data left your phone and therefore undetectable.
The usa and uk do have an agreement whereby each can monitor the others private citizens (yes it is real and has been discussed in the uk houses of parliament. Its called echelon and is a matter of public record in uk) but its highly doubtful you would be spyed on for no reason and not really something you could know if it did happen so not worth worrying over.
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I'm in japan and they take **** really serious here. Bittorrents and all that stuff.
You kids might laugh but this ****s serious.
Seems soon many times when I'm downloading the police park outside my building. Its not just this time.
For you that laughed I guess you never heard of "acta" or "sopa" these things are serious and not to be laughed at
But your ignorance is what makes you you I guess and makes them so so much money
The ones that they Sue for millions of $$$
I have my protection up
But these police keep parking out my building everytime I test the system.
I want to see what they see.
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I laugh because the way you worded it made it sound like some action movie ****.
I don't live in a box, I know what SOPA and ACTA are. Well, ACTA now. But how about, if they take that **** so seriously, you stop doing what they don't want you to do if you're afraid of the consequences.
It's like you're afraid of jail but you still have no problem robbing a store.
So chill with the illegal stuff and you won't have to worry about the police outside.

Jesushaxyou said:
I laugh because the way you worded it made it sound like some action movie ****.
I don't live in a box, I know what SOPA and ACTA are. Well, ACTA now. But how about, if they take that **** so seriously, you stop doing what they don't want you to do if you're afraid of the consequences.
It's like you're afraid of jail but you still have no problem robbing a store.
So chill with the illegal stuff and you won't have to worry about the police outside.
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Because the internet is free and should always be. Im just asking. Why do you have to be a web police??
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I once found an app that detects all wifi enabled devices that are using wifi or Mobile data connections. It was gone so fast I couldn't get it.
It used a live map to detect the location
I feel I'm touching a subject that's too sensitive.

Hahaha lol...
You being serious or not.. Still funny

Dan330 said:
Hahaha lol...
You being serious or not.. Still funny
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You are obvious drunk
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I'm not being the internet police. I'm stating the obvious. Don't do illegal **** and you won't have to be all paranoid.
The internet isn't really free. You pay your monthly bill for it or whatever, but the content within the internet is free unless, of course, you're downloading repackaged programs that actually retail for real money in which case you should buy the stupid program or music.
Not saying that I'm not guilty of pirating either, but don't complain about consequences for your actions when you knew them before you even did it.

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Can I just marry you?

Verizon Wireless draws fire for monitoring customers' app usage, Web browsing..

I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
I don't like big brother monitoring.

hmoobguy said:
I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
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I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..

I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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I clicked it and it kept logging me out of my Verizon account and just showing the main splash page.

Mystikalrush said:
I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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Just log in to myverizon and go to privacy settings. Should bring up a page with all your lines under each section and you can select the bubble to opt out.

Custom ROM tracking?
Does this still apply to users with a custom ROM?

Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Yeah, if you don't think that Bush handed him the keys right before firmly pointing the economy at the iceberg and tying steering wheel in place before doing so, than your mistaken.. And being prior military and working in intelligence, I can tell you that every electronic ANYTHING is being archived and saved and scanned for keywords since way before Obama. Eery single one of your emails and voice conversations and IM's and posts. Hmm and who put the Patriot Act in place.. hmm.. Have a Lovely day talking to big brother.. Oh by the way.. They prefer sexting.
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Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?

I'm pretty sure most companies track your online habbits. They claim the use it for "market research". On my phone I'm not really that bothered by it, I don't do anything on it that I want to keep private, because I don't trust how private they are.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless you are embarassed you look at porn on your phone. Just keep things you would like to be personal and not tracked heavily on a properly secured connection at home, and possibly use TOR if you are that paranoid and want a little extra security.
Actually, I believe there is Tor available for android. It may help cut down on what they know your doing.

yawn, who cares???

Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Yeah, let's not make this a presidential debate thread.
I've always liked Verizon, but lately I'm getting tired of them. I'm following the link to opt out.
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I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...

xsteven77x said:
Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
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blestsol said:
Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
Gs3
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Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)

Brian Gove said:
Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)
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Yes. That's exactly what I meant. When someone is referring to another comment they're automatically bunched in.
:thumbup:
Gs3

Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.

Brian Gove said:
Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?
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You may want to check your facts there....

Farabomb said:
Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.
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Best statement of the day! Now back to tech news, I hate politics.

cvsolidx17 said:
I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...
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I don't mind some monitoring but when they collect everything!? That's a little overboard IMO. I want an option to op out. I don't care about their strategic advertisements for my use. I guess there's no way stop them until theyre a law suit against them.

Google, NSA and security

With the not so shocking revelation that Google (along with just about every other major hardware/software company) is in bed with the NSA and providing back doors and/or other entry points into their systems, is there really any such thing as a "personal" phone?
I mean, who's to say how far Samsung (and other device manufacturers) have gone to provide access to the government along with the O/S developer (Google) and the service providers who've all been outed as being complicit as well.
I'm sure that it's an unlikely possibility due to the sheer number of lines of code, can we really put much faith in the fact that are our favorite custom ROMs any more secure?
I would hope that they are, but I think that the battle was fought and won a decade ago and no one outside of the government and most corporate board rooms even knew the first shots had been fired, let alone the white flag had been raised, accepted and surrender terms had been agreed upon.

Frodo56 said:
is there really any such thing as a "personal" phone?..
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The communication system as a whole is not secure so in essence, no.
I mean, who's to say how far...
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Only you.
No tinfoil hats here but you should consider security your responsibility not anyone else's.
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