SOPA bill hearings - no opponents allowed - General Topics

moving to canada as soon as i get the money and gas money.
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SCREW THIS GOVERNMENT.

All they're accomplishing by doing this is stirring even more public distrust and hatred towards the government.

You Americans always...You think your government are downright assholes?Come to Greece!The place where idiocy is considered a fundamental "trait" if someone wants to lead the country.
I'm so depressed now...

With the current nutjobs in the majority in the House I am not suprised. All they are about is tax cuts for the rich and de-regulate all big corporations and banks so they can rob us and poison us at the same time. It is just creeping fascism, but maybe the "creeping" is actually "running" now days. Couple that with the Roberts SCOTUS that says that corporations are people and money is speech (Citizen's united) and are allowed to buy elections, we are screwed.
Since the elite have already bought off the corporate "news" media, now they want the last bastion of free speech, the "internets".

This is really a secret conspiracy hatched by the VPN providers to force everyone to use their services or risk being thrown in jail.

Actually its Hollywood. The same people who tried to sue back in the 90's to ban mp3 players.
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The thing is also Google does have lobbyists in congress and Google is against it. Sony is too, and Microsoft Telecom hate it too
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Kiboe said:
The thing is also Google does have lobbyists in congress and Google is against it. Sony is too, and Microsoft Telecom hate it too
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As big as Hollywood companies are, Google, Sony, and Microsoft are a LOT bigger.
This bill won't pass, not with companies like this trying to stop it, because we all know who can pay the government more.

Wow , such corruption and bribery can never be tolerated in Singapore
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funny thing is even Google and other big online guys are against this SOPA bill
In another post, Tepp said that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "will always stand" on the "side of American businesses"--an odd statement given that the list of businesses opposed to SOPA includes eBay, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, AOL, Zynga, and many other technology companies. (See CNET's FAQ and our previous coverage of security concerns.)
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-5...-aggressive-defender-u.s-chamber-of-commerce/

well... ****. Am I the only one who saw internet censorship coming?
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**** like this makes me want to just throw away technology and move to a mountanous area in some third world country.
here's the link to sign the petition against this bs: http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/sopa_testimony/?akid=1018.606560.JTkqV4&rd=1&t=2
share it on facebook, twitter etc.. make your voices heard

tolis626 said:
You Americans always...You think your government are downright assholes?Come to Greece!The place where idiocy is considered a fundamental "trait" if someone wants to lead the country.
I'm so depressed now...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK63eUyk-iM&feature=related
Ahhh. greece.. it just as nice as i thought it would be.

I was lmfao when i saw this bill. This bill is going to drop harder than anything. Piracy actually helps sales. One friend pirates movie oh i saw that movie etc you should see it to.
If it does pass piracy is going to be hitting harder than it was before. Movies will be pirated while the scene is actually taking place. Behind the scenes all the time.

Sad thing is that these companies are legally allowed to bribe our elected officials through a process called lobbying.
Lobbying should be illegal.
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jordanishere said:
Sad thing is that these companies are legally allowed to bribe our elected officials through a process called lobbying.
Lobbying should be illegal.
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The problem is that the same people who could make lobbying illegal are the politicians getting the money! They are enjoying their payoffs way too much to make a law against getting free money from lobbyists

DaveC1964 said:
The problem is that the same people who could make lobbying illegal are the politicians getting the money! They are enjoying their payoffs way too much to make a law against getting free money from lobbyists
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It's a vicious cycle...
Too bad we can't really do anything about it.. Who doesn't want free money?

I wonder why "big pharma" would be against it. Canadian online drugstores making that big a dent in their profits or are they afraid of the free exchange of homeopathic remedies or is it (most likely) that the internet makes it easier for people who have suffered severe side effects from their overpriced medicines to find each other and start class action suits?

You can fight this and many other horrible bills that our bought congress creates at demandprogress.org. They organize many petitions against these bills.

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To all you HTC fanboys and sensation owners....

http://m.bgr.com/2011/09/01/htc-sensation-and-evo-3d-revealed-to-be-spying-on-users/
Enjoy
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I saw that. Hahahahaha......
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And of course this extra data counts against usage, I'm sure.
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Lame news
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If they can't access my personal items, I could care less.
Sucks for them. Although we had GoToMyPC on ours? WTH?
As much as I love android I have always said don't be surprised if Google is in bed with big brother... so all you HTC owners... who got porn on their phone...lmao
meh...
You're a fool if you think your smartphone isn't sending information about you to big brother. You have a tracking device on you whenever you have a phone with a battery in it - be in on or off. NEVER think your conversations are private. Never think you location isn't known.
that explains it
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You're a fool if you think your smartphone isn't sending information about you to big brother. You have a tracking device on you whenever you have a phone with a battery in it - be in on or off. NEVER think your conversations are private. Never think you location isn't known.
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its not that the g2x gps is poor due to LG's inability to program android. they actually broke it on purpose so we wouldnt be tracked . thansk LG.
eagle1967 said:
its not that the g2x gps is poor due to LG's inability to program android. they actually broke it on purpose so we wouldnt be tracked . thansk LG.
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Haha and running cm7 its even worse right lol
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eagle1967 said:
its not that the g2x gps is poor due to LG's inability to program android. they actually broke it on purpose so we wouldnt be tracked . thansk LG.
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Ahhh LG = Less Government. I approve.
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dkb218 said:
You're a fool if you think your smartphone isn't sending information about you to big brother. You have a tracking device on you whenever you have a phone with a battery in it - be in on or off. NEVER think your conversations are private. Never think you location isn't known.
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I agree but also say "who cares?" I don't do anything illegal. Track me all you want big brother! ;-)
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r4d14n7 said:
I agree but also say "who cares?" I don't do anything illegal. Track me all you want big brother! ;-)
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Unfortunately this is the prevailing mindset in America today. We disregard our inalienable right to privacy by saying "spy away gov't, I'm not hiding anything!". It sets up a precedent which marginalizes the demand for privacy, desensitizing everyone from this right. Then, anyone who demands privacy appears to be hiding something when in reality, Uncle Sam has no goddamned business prying in my affairs without probable cause whether or not I am breaking the law.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Unfortunately this is the prevailing mindset in America today. We disregard our inalienable right to privacy by saying "spy away gov't, I'm not hiding anything!". It sets up a precedent which marginalizes the demand for privacy, desensitizing everyone from this right. Then, anyone who demands privacy appears to be hiding something when in reality, Uncle Sam has no goddamned business prying in my affairs without probable cause whether or not I am breaking the law.
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You can't catch **** before it happens and want total privacy, doesn't work. Most Americans don't want tragedy to strike again, and this is why the American Gov't must impose this and that to make sure they cover themselves. Heaven forbid a day come where we see Pearl 9/11 2.0 and the government had the technology to prevent it, but didn't because it would "impose on the rights of the people".
Spy away... keep America safe. Simple logic, don't want something on your phone compromised? Don't keep it on your phone.
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You can't catch **** before it happens and want total privacy, doesn't work. Most Americans don't want tragedy to strike again, and this is why the American Gov't must impose this and that to make sure they cover themselves. Heaven forbid a day come where we see Pearl 9/11 2.0 and the government had the technology to prevent it, but didn't because it would "impose on the rights of the people".
Spy away... keep America safe. Simple logic, don't want something on your phone compromised? Don't keep it on your phone.
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It is also your inalienable right to be irrevocably, unapologetically wrong.
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mr2324jgf said:
You can't catch **** before it happens and want total privacy, doesn't work. Most Americans don't want tragedy to strike again, and this is why the American Gov't must impose this and that to make sure they cover themselves. Heaven forbid a day come where we see Pearl 9/11 2.0 and the government had the technology to prevent it, but didn't because it would "impose on the rights of the people".
Spy away... keep America safe. Simple logic, don't want something on your phone compromised? Don't keep it on your phone.
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
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Sorry. I despise the whole 'if you have nothing to hide' BS. The government now wants to operate with privacy from the people but wants to deny our INALIENABLE right to not be spied upon ourselves. This is in complete and total opposition to the way things should be.
America sucks.....wait, sorry, its the people that run America that suck and make it suck for everyone else. The true sheep trust Washington .....pfft.
Its a shame America is no longer for Americans. I have faith in our system, its the people that run it I have no faith in. Start speaking Chinese people, we may become the united states of China
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In order to prevent terrorism, freedoms must be bent. Fact of life in today's world. I understand the counterargument. It's just my choice to give up some of my freedoms to prevent terrorism. And I already have less freedoms than most of you as I'm an active duty US Military member.
This is basically an argument that no one can win, but it's always interesting to read others' opinions.
r4d14n7 said:
In order to prevent terrorism, freedoms must be bent. Fact of life in today's world. I understand the counterargument. It's just my choice to give up some of my freedoms to prevent terrorism. And I already have less freedoms than most of you as I'm an active duty US Military member.
This is basically an argument that no one can win, but it's always interesting to read others' opinions.
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I was active duty military.
This is still BS.
What happens when every 10 years or so we give up just a little bit more of our freedoms for a false sense of security? Just a little more. I'm willing to give up just a little more. Repeat...and repeat....and repeat. Next thing you know they're all gone and your country has become a military state with little to no freedom of any kind. All for the sake of protecting the people, of course. Why don't we just take away everyone's ability to choose anything while we're at it. Then they'll be so much easier to manage and keep safe.
Freedoms should never be bent to protect freedom..
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Silent Sms attacks/tracking

so apparently the German government (and other entities) have been using silent sms attacks to keep tabs on its civilians
they send a silent sms to someones phone, it dosent show up at all on their device, but it pings back Imei numbers and other info, which can be cross reffed with the operator log of the towers and used to compile an entire movement profile for an individual
now i dont know about you but as an upstanding citizen this kind of crap concerns the heck outta me.
i believe further exploration into some sort of defense against ssms attacks is in order but it is way above my paygrade
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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Eeroz said:
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
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Not the OS developers, it purely has to do with the carriers. I remember reading a lot about similar things in the past, like pinging a phone, class 0 sms', etc. Does anyone have any related links, whether relating to the governments use or these pinging sms' in general? Sounds like an interesting topic!
ishmael345 said:
It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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I hear you there. Look at the new chip they want in all cell phones in the US starting this year for government based SMS for terrorist threats and amber alerts. Wonder why it is gonna be connected to the GPS and phone mic?
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
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http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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Any proof about this?
Do a search for Fema chips in cell phones and see.
zeekiz said:
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
zelendel said:
Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I know that maybe a bit harsh but some of my freinds were those that stood up for our rights and freedom and for someone to say its OK for a government to remove that right rubs me wrong.
I would to if you were innocent until proven guilty but we all know that is not the case anymore. Now you are guilty until proven innocent.
I think the days of thinking that our government is out for the good of people is long over.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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Oh for my "protection" well thats okay then.
So whats your stance on carrier IQ then? after all its only sending information that will make our phone using experiance better, And from a safety issue SOPA and the Australian internet filter are brilliant, Means I can not access those nasty sites that will put me at risk, Just like in China. It does not stink of isolationisim and control at all. And all no one should want ANYTHING kept private if they are not breaking the law should they? Infact privacy breeds suscpicion. How about for everyones safety you post your private details and smses as well as your daily schedule so we know you are not going around consorting with terroists or drug dealers.
Anyone who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
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forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
Mainspring said:
forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
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^^^^--- This.
Anyway, as far as being able to track you they would need probable cause to even begin to attempt to defend themselves if any government type decides to do this. At least enough to warrant a search a seizure. I don't know how the laws are outside of the states but I can imagine unless you're in a dictatorship or you live in a communist nation the laws are similar.
Higher-ups have always been able to do this, that's not the question. The question is the legitimacy of the situations that they decide to use their power.
LOL
I love you guys who born and grow up in the US. and Western part where democracy is practicing daily.
Coming off a communist country, I love freedom a lot but ......... if you do no harm to the nation, no harm to the country, no harm to the community and no harm to anybody, then you SHOULD NEVER worry about it.
If you say "Obama is suck and I hate him" you not gonna be jailed for that.
If you say "I hate white president and I never vote for those again", you not gonna be fined for that.
If you say "I just have sex with my g/f and she moans like crazy", they not gonna care to listen to your conversation.
But if you are up to something, potentially put the nation, commnunity at risk, yes, you are deserved to lock up for the rest of your life as the safety issue for the rest.
Period.
Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Look at all the articles about how carriers gave the FBI an open ticket to their systems. The government has been doing unwarrented wire taps for years now in the name of security which is BS.
As for the previous comment no you don't get in trouble for things like that but let me tell you a true story about a buddy of mine.
He and his girlfreind got into an argument where she made up lies about how he said he would kill her for threating to run away with their child. The cops find him on a bus leaving state. Tosses him in jail for 4 weeks until he sees a judge as their is no bail in the state for demestic issues. Then he get 6 months probation and has to pay $4000 in fines. Cant go to trial as she cant be found. Now he has assault on his record and is having trouble finding work as all it says is ASSAULT nothing else. All for words he never said. But even if he had it was still just words. Nothing more. No history of violence. Just an empty threat.
Yeah freedom right. Guilty until proven innocent
Wow, never heard this until now

Help Stop this bill.

It is very important that everyone Has a chance to know about this bill. Because this Bill will most likely Greatly impact this website due to Modification of software, it is important that this bill is stopped. Please read the article Posted in this link.
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...8th-at-8am-you-can-help-bring-us-back-online/
What the hell this is bull****.
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Just gonna say. People can protest all they want but Congress is pretty much hell bent on getting it passed. The only solution I see is that when it is passed and most sites are blocked, people will be in outrage because they have all been in the dark about SOPA. Riots will ensue untill the Supreme Court rules it unconstitutional on the basis that it restricts peoples freedoms on the internet.
Whatever the case is, it will be gone in the future.
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R u really damn serious
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R u really damn serious
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Clarify your question please?
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Perfectly legal **** we're doing here. Developers aren't modificating software to steal money or sell anything, plus these sources are given to us....... We are just brains of this action...... We want better things that we just can't have, I mean what the ****. Torrents are illegal but yet they rather waste their time with XDA.
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The White House is against it isn't it?
The house and the senate are not f**kin around. From what i have read and seen on the news, this is some serious ****.
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Quite frankly, this bill should never be passed. I can understand wanting to protect artist's rights, but this is pushing it far beyond constitutional boundaries. Even if it is repealed though, I'm sure they won't hesitate to try again with a lighter variant, which would've otherwise been repealed..
You guys all know this will have far reaching consequences other than a few torrent sites going down right?
If this passes Youtube will cease to exist as you know it. It will be much too much work for them to filter new uploaded videos to make sure there is not any music clips, company logos, or other references that someone can close them down for. After awhile it will be too costly and too much work to maintain and police so Youtube may just go away forever.
Any site can be shut down for anything that someone thinks might have something on it related to a copyright of any kind. Someone could be sued for drawing a picture of the USS Enterprise and putting it on their site even. That is considered a copyright and illegal if the bill is passed.
You are guilty until proven innocent. Do you have the money for the lawyers to prove your innocence? Or is it easier to just shut your site down and not take the chance? If someone just doesn't like you they can claim you have copyrighted material and you will be shut down. If they find nothing then you can go back up but will it be worth the constant hassle?
On a forum such as this if someone has a picture as their avatar, or in their sig that someone somewhere has some rights to, the site can be shut down. It will make things a big chore to keep up with.
Make no mistake, this draconian bill will destroy the internet as you know it, and will effect much more than pirate sites.
In the US of A today what big corporations want, big corporations get. They own most of the law makers in Washington of both parties. Ever since the Citizens United ruling by the 5 right-wing corporatist justices that say "corporations are people and money is speech" politicians are beholden to corporate interests. If you as a politician go against the corporate powers that be , they will flood your opponent with advertizing cash to defeat you in the next election. This has already happened since the ruling. All this does is make any politician that wants to keep his job genuflect at the knees of corporate America. In this case the music and movie industry among others are driving this bill.
This is a BIG deal folks, even if you never will partcipate in any piracy of any kind.
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Optimus-Prime said:
The White House is against it isn't it?
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It seems so if you look around, I found this statement:
"Is the SOPA bill dead? In the wake of criticisms released by the Obama administration Saturday, many observers predict the Stop Online Privacy Act and its sister act, the Protect IP Act (or PIPA), are dead on arrival."
But that doesn't meant we can relax. Corporate America is ruthless when it comes to getting what they want (which is why we give billions of dollars in corporate welfare to super rich Exxon just so they can rip us off). We need to keep up the pressure.
jesi.james said:
Just gonna say. People can protest all they want but Congress is pretty much hell bent on getting it passed. ... Riots will ensue untill the Supreme Court rules it unconstitutional on the basis that it restricts peoples freedoms on the internet.
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The Supreme court? That is a laugh. Not THIS Supreme court. The Roberts Supreme court LOVES corporate fascist stuff like this (see:Citizen's United).
Oh and here is something that passed while all Americans were distracted by the new year. (Link below) I'm farelly certain that if things get out of hand, with the Sopa bill, Obama will use his new found power.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...jan/02/ndaa-historic-assault-american-liberty
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I heard that Obama eats babies too.!!!!!
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I heard that Obama eats babies too.!!!!!
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With a spork!!
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With a spork!!
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While gettin a bubble bath from George Dubya Bush
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php
its been shelved
Face facts, our government already controls the media, filling people's heads full of the crap they want us to believe. They eventually will control everything and call it Homeland Security. They keep inventing new "evil ones" to keep us living in fear of "terror".
Read, read some more, use common sense and figure out what's going on. Our governments want us to be mindless, overweight, thoughtless zombies
Jep56 said:
Face facts, our government already controls the media, filling people's heads full of the crap they want us to believe. They eventually will control everything and call it Homeland Security. They keep inventing new "evil ones" to keep us living in fear of "terror".
Read, read some more, use common sense and figure out what's going on. Our governments want us to be mindless, overweight, thoughtless zombies
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+1 I agree so much I have been considering moving to Canada for a couple months now
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well it looks like that black out did quite a bit of damage. hahaha anyone else see "WTF WIKI?" tweets?
In an exciting turn of events, it turns out that Lamar Smith, the man behind SOPA, has actually used copyrighted material for his personal website without credit. And not just once, either.

[APPLE]Stop exploiting the US Patent system

As all you may me be aware Apple was awarded some patents that could bring the end of android(i dont believe it) Please all sign this petition on
http://www.change.org/petitions/app...the-us-patent-system-to-hurt-fair-competition
They currently have 116 signs out of 500. Your help is valuable.
Petitions wont do much these days.
OptimusLove said:
Petitions wont do much these days.
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Agreed.
This is the internet, not your local neighbourhood.
- Swift - said:
Agreed.
This is the internet, not your local neighbourhood.
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That made me laugh so hard.. 500 signatures from an internet petition wont do anything. Big petitions that made changes are in the 10,000 to 100,000 range. 500 won't even make it to an apple store employee.
The only thing you can possibly do to stir up some trouble is boycott all apple products. Start an online movement with people willing to do it. And I'm not talking about those people who have android phones but have an iPad or use iTunes. Avoid all products!
But act quick.. apple may patent boycotting mobile phones
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I for one agree with boycotting Apple and I would strongly support it.
Start a Facebook page, a twitter, a Google+, etc... to spread the word and educate others about Apple's nazi regime. The more people know the more support we have with the boycott. Tell your mother, your father, your aunts and uncles, your grandparents, and everyone you meet. Present the facts and not just "I hate Apple so you should too." Show people why it would be beneficial to support the boycott.
This could be one of the biggest things since the boycott on the busses during the civil rights movement.
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I just don't understand why people buy apple product so fast.They are not cheap and not creative..just copied.
I just found it and so i posted it.
Signed.
apple should burn in hell

Will you stop using Android and Google (iOS and WP)?

Hopefully I don't turn this is a political debate, this is only for the purpose of choose a mobile Operating Systems without the invasion of privacy.
So as we all know from the news, the US government agency have been spying and collecting data indiscriminate against almost everyone from almost every country under the PRISM program, which include Google, Microsoft and Apple.
I have been a loyal Android and Google customer for the past five years however, I think its time to change my communication provider and OS to a non American based company, most likely Sailfish.
I know NSA will be reading this and put me under surveillance after I post this, but I this it is important that we all seriously consider abandon Android and Google and all other PRISM associated companies.
FinancialWar said:
Hopefully I don't turn this is a political debate, this is only for the purpose of choose a mobile Operating Systems without the invasion of privacy.
So as we all know from the news, the US government agency have been spying and collecting data indiscriminate against almost everyone from almost every country under the PRISM program, which include Google, Microsoft and Apple.
I have been a loyal Android and Google customer for the past five years however, I think its time to change my communication provider and OS to a non American based company, most likely Sailfish.
I know NSA will be reading this and put me under surveillance after I post this, but I this it is important that we all seriously consider abandon Android and Google and all other PRISM associated companies.
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Good luck trying to hide yourself.
FinancialWar said:
I know NSA will be reading this and put me under surveillance after I post this, but I this it is important that we all seriously consider abandon Android and Google and all other PRISM associated companies.
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I love paranoia, don't get me wrong but seriously... We live in the 21st century and anyone wanting to be part of a large society will be "spied" upon by governments, corporations, neighbors... Not condoning this, nor do I agree with giving away my so called rights, but I hope you enjoy your desert island
(Yes flame me now, I'm ready)
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demkantor said:
I love paranoia, don't get me wrong but seriously... We live in the 21st century and anyone wanting to be part of a large society will be "spied" upon by governments, corporations, neighbors... Not condoning this, nor do I agree with giving away my so called rights, but I hope you enjoy your desert island
(Yes flame me now, I'm ready)
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I like how they are your "so called rights"....
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demkantor said:
I love paranoia, don't get me wrong but seriously... We live in the 21st century and anyone wanting to be part of a large society will be "spied" upon by governments, corporations, neighbors... Not condoning this, nor do I agree with giving away my so called rights, but I hope you enjoy your desert island
(Yes flame me now, I'm ready)
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So because I live in the 21 st century, and is part of the Western society, therefore I should accept the fact that US government is spying and collecting by personal data?
Since when is it ever acceptable or legal?
I don't need to live on a desert island to enjoy my basic right to privacy, that's why I am considering another service provider that is non American, non PRISM and respect my rights.
Accepting and understanding are two different things, all the best to your movement to a new os and I hope this will keep the government out of your voicemail and Facebook. More should be proactive like you and I hope your congressman gets a letter of outrage as well.
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My Congressman? I am not American and I couldn't careless about American politics. I just don't want my emails and browsering history monitored.
Hi,
to protect your privacy use pgp or other crypto tools to encrypt and sign your emails.
bye
It isn't going to matter which OS you're using, if they really want to spy on you, they'll find a way to get the information.
Also, if they really want to spy on you and go to all that trouble and spend time and resources, then you're probably doing something very wrong and deserve it.
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Use a proxy. D).
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FinancialWar said:
...my basic right to privacy...
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That's a basic right in all civilized countries, but apparently not in the US... what a sh*t, isn't it?
I mean, it's OK if the US Government want to spy their own citizens, but why they're spying non-american citizens?
thlmobile said:
My phone is not a smartphone.
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what are you doing on XDA?

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